1997/09/16  12:50  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #447 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 447
 
Today's Topics: 
  RE: Charity - Give 'em a choice 
  hello 
  Re: Anon New Member 
  Monster Nun. 
  Re: hello 
  Re: hello 
  Anon New Member 
  Re: Knowing laughter 
  Akashic records 
  100th Monkey Business 
  Re: 100th Monkey Business 
  Re: Akashic records 
  Re: Akashic records 
  Re: Charity - Give 'em a choice 
  Re: 100th Monkey Business 
  re:  Monster Nun. 
  cool positngs 
  Re: 100th Monkey Business 
  Re: 100th Monkey Business 
  I am the full moon 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:49:03 
From: Debee <hinhanATnospaminwave.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: RE: Charity - Give 'em a choice 
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>4. Instinctively, my approach is to *Get alongside people* and listen. 
This is the *undivided attention* you refer to.  Good listening and open 
questioning can help to get people to identify and clarify things all by 
themselves in a pretty natural way.  Then what...?  Please excuse the 
military terminology, but a flexible response is needed.  There are plenty 
of techniques and experiences in the armoury and many ways to skin a cat. 
>Thanks for reading.... 
> 
> 
>This is not the end: it is not even the beginning of the end.  It is 
perhaps the end of the beginning. 
>
 
This method, to me, is one of the very best.  It's easier to verbally work 
things out and it's helpful to have an attentive ear.  Thoughts tend to 
consume our minds if we allow them to and it's very difficult to sort 
through things.  When we have an attentive, non-jugemental ear to sound off 
on, we are better able to work through things much more quickly.  It's also 
helpful if the attentive ear isn't one which constantly interjects his/her 
own feelings and experiences but rather waits until asked or asks questions 
of a searching nature or merely to help clarify things so they may gain a 
better understanding of what is going on.  I don't know about other people, 
but for me, an attentive ear is very important.  It's a way of saying *I 
care* to someone and also of saying *You are worth listening to because you 
are important as are your feelings*.  It's not a matter of wanting or 
needing someone to agree or disagree.  It's just a matter of taking some 
time to listen.  Actions have always spoken louder than words.  Talking is 
very easy but to be silent, listen, and give your undivided attention is a 
greater challenge.  It's not something we see a great deal of today and it's 
something to consider strengthening within our daily lives.  Take a moment 
and try to remember a time when something was very important to you and you 
sought to talk to someone about it.  Remember how it felt when the other 
person belittled what you had to say or felt.  How did it feel when they 
constantly told you what they themselves would or would not do.  Think of 
these things and keep them in mind the next time someone needs an ear to 
listen.  
 
Blessed Be
 
Debee 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:51:30 
From: Abby <abbyATnospamhinet.co.za> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: hello 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970915175130.0b5f965aATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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My name ...well u can call me Abigail 
I have for many years felt a yearning for the unknown...well ...the 
world that we forget...when we just focus on the reality world...where 
we must go to school...then get a job...and bring up kids...a whole 
routine 
I am not satisfied with my life...i want to learn...and understand...my 
friend is ...well a ...witch...sort of...he into certain types of 
magic...some of them i do not agree with...but because to me...each 
person..has there own oppion...and interests..and that one is his.. 
I want to learn so much in the world...i have tried different methods to 
meditate...but each time...my mind just wonders of....ack...my mind is 
very weird...like most people would beable to sit down and lisen...while 
i...one half would be lisening and the other would be interested in 
another conversation at another table...y i really do not know..i really 
need to get my mind in order...and to relax...I just want someones 
oppion and help... 
from a person in need  
Abigail 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:49:43 
From: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Anon New Member 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970915174943.0c2ffac4ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hi there anon,
 
you said 
 "an anonymous sub-list where people can deal with thoughts rather than 
expressions of ego, which persons names refer to.  I believe it might 
reduce the tendency for personal attacks, defensiveness, judgementalism 
and self righteousness."................
 
We had names as a means of identification before we took on board the 
ego.  In the times and places where we lived in the same physical body 
for hundreds of years no ego self existed. The ego expression of an 
individual comes in many different guises.  The anonymous can and do act 
judgementally, self righteously, attacking and defending.  The voyeur or 
peeping tom is a good example. 
 
Some use anonymity to hide behind and find they can be more critical, 
judgemental etc if they think no-one knows who they are.  E.g. letters 
to Editors in newspapers and magazines, secret ballots. 
 
I don't think it matters whether someone chooses to remain anonymous 
or chooses to reveal their name on this list. If it is your soul's 
intent to transcend and transmute the ego, you will come from that point  
regardless of who knows your name.       
  
The letters N A M E also form the word MEAN.  There are many different 
meanings to the word MEAN.  One of them is "in the middle, neither one 
extreme nor the other" So names in themselves are not ego reflective - 
it is all about how they are used in the soul's ego expression.
 
Love, 
sue 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:52:48 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Monster Nun. 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970915175248.1e17ab4cATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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  When I was a very tiny child, before prechool, I used to have these 
wickedly scary dreams about this giant monster supernatural Nun. This Nun 
was like nothing in my waking life, a huge black shadow being that could 
streach to enormous heights, enfold people in her terrifying habit and make 
them disappear, squeeze them into nothing..  The more frightened I was of 
Her, the more awesomely terrifying she became. I would wake from these 
dreams seeing monsters in every shadow, and see them by even staring at a 
blank wall.. it seemed like they followed me out of the dream.  
  During the time I was having these nightmares, my older sister came home 
from Catholic elementary school crying that one of the Nuns teaching had 
scolded her cruelly, "Bit her head off", as she put it.. she frightened me, 
and  this gave the Monster Nun in my Dreams something new to do: Bite 
people's heads off.. I expected to meet the scary Nun in real life when I 
started school!! Yikes! After a while I learned to approach the Nun with 
Prefect trust: when I did that, she was really nice, and she'd show me 
things?? Fuzzy memory.. then the dreams changed, and I was the Monster 
Shadow Nun, and terrifying people and biting their heads off.. I didn't 
want to, but that was what the nun did.. I tried to tell the tiny people to 
to be scared of me and I would not have to bite them.. but they could not 
understand the strange roaring voice of the Monster Nun. The dreams became 
too much for me to handle, and I prayed for "No bad dreams every night till 
they stopped. 
  At this time, I was also playing an interesting game with myself to fall 
asleep, which I have only recently discovered the truth of: I never told 
anyone about it, coz I didn't think it unusual till recently.  
  I would play with the golden light in my head, trying to calm my thoughts 
enough to make it glow evenly. Fearful or nervous thoughts would make it 
crack into fragments, blackness, uncomfortable. Good game to pass the time 
trying to fall asleep in the dark, eh?   
  It wasn't till some folks wrote to this list to complain about a light in 
their head, keeping them awake, and recieved explanations that it was the 
chakra opening, that I twigged to what I had actually been playing with, in 
my head, in my crib.. 'oly cow! 
  (I was 4th child, the house was running out of room for beds, so I slept 
in a crib till I literally outgrew it, and Dad renovated the bedroom into 
bunkbeds for the 3 girls. I liked it, climbing in and out of the crib by 
myself was like having monkey bars to play on in the bedroom. It was also 
fun to get a screwdriver and start to take it apart...) 
  So realizing the significance of the light I saw in my head as a 
preschool child, made me really begin to wonder more about that Killer 
Nun.. she was too real and strange to be a child's imagination.. what was 
she? And what about the kaliedescope moving op-art patterns I would get 
behind my eyelids sometimes??  
  I asked my K. to direct me to some info..  
  I just finished reading a book called "Spiritwalker", by a Doctor in 
Hawaii who spontaneously started Shamaic journeying into a self 5000 years 
into the future.  
  In his description of the behavior and appearance of the "Portal 
Guardian", that guards the Doorway to the Shamanic Realm, I found my 
Monster Shadow Nun. She has appeared in neolithic cave paintings around the 
world, a big squarish black shadow with a tiny head, and sometimes white 
eyes, sometimes a big white cross on the front. She is the shadow aspect of 
the self, and so I became her, in the later dreams.  
  In paintings, she is usually surrounded or associated with patterns of 
coecentric dots. Like Australian Dreamtime paintings..  the kaliedescope 
behind my eyelids. The scientist types call them "Phosphene" patterns, a 
common effect of shamanic hallucinogens.. the portal itself. 
   
  On the weekend, I mentioned my discovery to a close friend, who is a 
fully awakened genuine Fijian Warrior Princess (! Cool, eh?) and showed her 
the pictures, and she recognized the portal Guardian from her own childhood 
dreams! Her experience was different: a more confident child, she became 
such good friends with the Guardian, she really looked forward to going to 
sleep every night.
 
  So now I am really wondering, how common is this experience? Is every 
child's closet monster, really the Portal Guardian of the dreamtime? 
 Blessings, Serpent.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
      :D   ;)  :0   :)   ;P   :0   ;)   :D   :0   :)  ;P  :0  ;)  :)     
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:41:44 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: "Abby (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <abbyATnospamhinet.co.za> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hello 
Message-ID: <341D8166.73CFATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Abby (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
>
 
Abby, 
The world you speak of you actually do attend at night in sleep, so it 
isn't like you totally lose your connection to the other side. That 
yearning is because you maintain some awareness of memory of it. Don't 
fight it, just learn to find balance. 
 
> I am not satisfied with my life...i want to learn...and understand...my 
> friend is ...well a ...witch...sort of...he into certain types of 
> magic...some of them i do not agree with...but because to me...each 
> person..has there own oppion...and interests..and that one is his.. 
> I want to learn so much in the world...i have tried different methods to 
> meditate...but each time...my mind just wonders of....ack...my mind is 
> very weird...like most people would beable to sit down and lisen...while 
> i...one half would be lisening and the other would be interested in 
> another conversation at another table...y i really do not know..i really
 
GG 
There are many paths out there, go inside and ask what it is your 
looking for, if you really want to know God and make a direct inner 
relationship, that requires a commitment to God, willingness to learn 
about detachment, and the will to discipline yourself on many levels of 
your experience. 
 
Meditation is a key factor in the learning process, you use it to slow 
down the mind, to raise your frequency in the mind/body, and to align 
with divine will. There is much to learn, it is a lifetime process. If 
it is important to you, nothing will stand in your way. Gloria 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:35:43 -0400 
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
To: abbyATnospamhinet.co.za 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hello 
Message-ID: <19970915.233543.15310.5.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
 
Abigail wrote... 
<<i have tried different methods >to>meditate...but each time...my mind 
just wonders of....ack...my mind is>very weird...like most people would 
beable to sit down and >lisen...while>i...one half would be lisening and 
the other would be interested in>another conversation at another 
table...y i really do not know..i  
>really>need to get my mind in order...and to relax...I just want 
someones 
>oppion and help...>>
 
Meditation is like speaking with others...
 
Do you listen to what they say? 
Do you observe and watch their words? 
Are you always interrupting? 
Does your mind wander to what you will say next? 
Do you really care what they have to say?
 
What is it you want to occur in your meditation? 
Is it to learn to listen?   
Then give the gift of listening to others.
 
Is it to quieten your mind? 
Then give the gift of truly listening 
to what others have to say 
without interruption.
 
If you practice in *real life* 
what you want in your meditation, 
then that is what you will get 
easily when you sit with Self!
 
Again, seems like a good theory... 
xxxtg
 
"The Opening of the Third Ear:  Listening to People Talk Behind Your 
Back" 
 
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:30:34 -0400 
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Anon New Member 
Message-ID: <19970915.233543.15310.4.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
 
>>The letters N A M E also form the word MEAN.  There are many different 
meanings to the word MEAN.  One of them is "in the middle, neither one 
extreme nor the other" So names in themselves are not ego reflective - 
it is all about how they are used in the soul's ego expression.>>
 
The letters N A M E also form the word A M E N ..... which means to 
express approval, or the ending of a prayer...
 
Amen, 
xxxgt
 
REIGN CHECK: The new Emperor was a very gentle man who loved all wild 
animals. But when he allowed the animals to run loose all over his 
domain, 
the people became annoyed and overthrew the Emperor. That was the first 
time 
in history that the reign was called on account of the game.
 
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:38:16 -0700 
From: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Knowing laughter 
Message-ID: <341DF118.630DATnospamflarity.com> 
 
E Jason wrote: 
>  
> J P Flarity wrote: 
>  
> > >You want to get to know me and I want you to know the Divine. 
> > 
> > IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? 
>  
> Yes - most definitely yes. I am part of the Divine. The Divine is within 
> each of us. Being Divine is not possible in a sense other than this. One 
> can immerse or merge with the knowing of the Divine. One is never God in 
> the same sense that God is Divine. 
>  
Dear Lobster,
 
Such a limitation you bear.  I will attribute it to your extraordinary 
humility and practice of constant ego suppression.  We are in different 
places here.  This is good because I am uneasy in crowds.
 
I see the Divinity of roaches 
scurrying along the baseboard
 
Of madmen screaming in anger 
as his steel atoms drink
 
The wheel of life turns 
and every bat blink 
is part of it.
 
Our ignorance and loneliness 
is God stretching 
looking for more
 
laughter
 
So hurry if you must Lobster 
one can never be sure just how long 
eternity will last.
 
laughing,
 
joe 
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:16:17 -0700 
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
To: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au> 
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Akashic records 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970915221603.00695d94ATnospammail.eskimo.com> 
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Hi Sue, 
Sounds like much opened up for you when the k started to awaken. 
I am interested in your experiences with the Akashic Records 
and how they first began to appear to you, and how you came to 
realize that what you were reading were the Akashic Records. 
Can you read your own, as well as others?
 
In light, 
ori^
 
>Kundalini has shown me the Akashic Records and I read them for others. 
>ALL of those people I know experiencing Kundalini have experienced in 
>their past some healing, contact or touch from the man who was Jesus.
 
 
****** 
*              ori^                   * 
*      <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>       * 
* http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html * 
******  
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:10:49 -0400 (EDT) 
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: 100th Monkey Business 
Message-ID: <970916021047_502518891ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
 
In a message dated 97-09-11 13:22:41 EDT, you write:
 
<< At that time, "hundredth monkey effect" will occur: a vibrational wave 
 of enlightenment energy will move through the entire planet and its 
 population, >>
 
Periodically I see references to the 100th monkey phenomenon on this list, so 
I just wanted to share with you that, despite its seemingly universal appeal, 
I have not relied on this concept as a certainty.  When I originally read of 
the study, I loved the idea that once enough members of a species learned 
something new, that the remaining members would learn automatically, or at 
least more easily.  However, I then read several analyses of the study that 
essentially said that the study was half-assed and that the phenomenon never 
really occurred.  Sorry that I don't have my sources at my fingertips and 
that I'm not sufficiently motivated to track them down at the moment.  But I 
think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial 
at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons. 
 Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory.
 
Peg   
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:31:18 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916013118.08779e68ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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At 02:10 16/09/97 -0400, PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  But I 
>think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial 
>at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons. 
> Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory. 
> 
>Peg   
> 
  The hundredth monkey theroy has been pretty well debunked, but I use it 
as a metaphor, because I think it has a metaphorical truth.. a better 
example is how often things are invented or discovered simultaneously in 
widely separate geographical areas.  
  Alexander Graham Bell beat Runner up #2 to the patent office by hours, 
for inventing the telephone.. the French and the Germans each have a 
differing opinion than the Americans about who invented the airplane. There 
are more examples, particularly in the fields of medicine and physics.  
  The diference tho, is the K. energy itself, it is more than info about 
washing a potato, and it has means of contagion beyond any other "virus". 
(No disrespect to Goddess intended.. she created viruses, too. As above, so 
below, the saying goes..)  
  When a lower vibration person is among higher vibration folks, they will 
be lifted by proximity. Prayer heals over distance, no matter what the 
religion. It is this effect that makes the metaphor of the 100th monkey, 
"True", when applied to awakening. 
  The truth comes in the cave paintings that are similar all over the 
world. Why? Because we are one, and some ideas are contagious beyond 
physical logic.  
   Blessings, Serpent.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
      :D   ;)  :0   :)   ;P   :0   ;)   :D   :0   :)  ;P  :0  ;)  :)     
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:46:00 
From: "Lisa Marie (Of Tom n' Lisa)" <efs2dayATnospampe.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Akashic records 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916014600.1e1741f4ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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very cool 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:03:31 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Akashic records 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916030331.1e17d5d6ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello! 
I would like to hear a wee bit more on Akashic Records than what has been 
shared on this post.
 
Thanks, 
indraATnospamsmartt.com
 
ori^ wrote:
 
> Hi Sue, 
> Sounds like much opened up for you when the k started to awaken. 
> I am interested in your experiences with the Akashic Records 
> and how they first began to appear to you, and how you came to 
> realize that what you were reading were the Akashic Records. 
> Can you read your own, as well as others? 
> 
> In light, 
> ori^
 
> ****** 
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> *      <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>       * 
> * http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html * 
> ****** 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:02:37 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Charity - Give 'em a choice 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916030237.08bf5d16ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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  Hello!
 
Listening with attentiveness , I feel is most important in today's fast life 
world. 
It allows us to communicate effectively and provides room for our self 
improvement in all sphere of life. 
I appreciate Debbie's answer above, so much that I saved it as a reference.
 
In L & L
 
Indra from Richmond, B.C. Canada 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:57:35 -0400 
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business 
Message-ID: <19970916.085736.13742.3.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
 
<< Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the 
theory.
 
I don't know if this qualifies as the 100th Monkey business, but I've 
come to realize that when I learn something, everyone else must learn it 
too....
 
For instance, when something or someone irritates me outside of myself, 
that is a red flag for me to look within -- I realize that I have just 
projected a part of myself, ie. "I'm not guilty of that - THEY are."  
 
Once I have my own guilt corrected, then I stop projecting it outside 
myself, and there is no one left to irritate me anymore on that 
particular subject.  (well, at least until the next time I feel guilty 
about something else).
 
Maybe that is not true learning, but a form of projection and perception. 
 But maybe the 100th Monkey theory is based on this form of perception in 
some way??  (still theorizing)...
 
xxxtg
 
Anagrams: 
. Hundredth Monkey Theory -  They undertook herd hymn 
. Perception - Open, Rip, etc. 
. Perception - Optic Preen
 
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:55:42 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: re:  Monster Nun. 
Message-Id: <199709161355.IAA16965ATnospamdfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>
 
Angelique, your theory about closet monsters being portal guardians is  
fantastic!  Most children between 5-10 become extremely  
"superstitious," and spontaneously develop rituals.  I know I did in  
order to deal with an extremely intense dreamlife AND with "knowings" I  
was getting from God while growing up in a family that was mostly  
atheist.  It never occurred to me to link the light and dark together  
before I read your post.  Thanks so much!  Love, Holly 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 10:24:37 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: cool positngs 
Message-ID: <970916102227_640047495ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
 
hey list members,
 
this querey is for two postings i read that i really liked alot and want more 
information about.  The first was the lady who said that she had been taught 
a variety of hand gestures and mantras as well as several techniques passed 
down from above. I really want more details on this as this is definitely 
something that should be passed on to us.  And the second thing that i 
thought was really cool was about the akashic (sp?) records....i really am 
interested in hearing more about this as well. I'm sorry I don't know who 
wrote about these but i'm sure the people out there reading this will :) 
Thanks for your patience.
 
the final peace completes the whole 
-d 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:39:38 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business 
Message-ID: <341EC45A.31F2ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> But I 
> think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial 
> at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons. 
>  Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory.
 
Quoting from the book "The Lucid Dreamer" by Malcolm Godwin:
 
"Experiments have shown that when scientists attempt to create crystals 
from a new substance, it takes an inordinate length of time. But once 
one 
batch has been created, it appears to become progressively easier to 
create 
the crystals even when the laboratory experiments are in totally 
different 
geographical locations. Once something has been created, whether it is a 
new 
organism, or a new idea, a habit field also comes into being."
 
I'd note that no specific experiments regarding this phenomena were 
cited. 
Anyone heard of this?
 
David 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:38:32 
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business 
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David Bozzi wrote:
 
> Quoting from the book "The Lucid Dreamer" by Malcolm Godwin: 
> 
> "Experiments have shown that when scientists attempt to create 
> crystals 
> from a new substance, it takes an inordinate length of time. But once 
> one 
> batch has been created, it appears to become progressively easier to 
> create 
> the crystals even when the laboratory experiments are in totally 
> different 
> geographical locations. Once something has been created, whether it is 
> a 
> new 
> organism, or a new idea, a habit field also comes into being." 
> 
> I'd note that no specific experiments regarding this phenomena were 
> cited. 
> Anyone heard of this? 
> 
> David
 
Hello David,
 
A common principle in physics off vibrations, called the "law off 
resonance" combined in magnetic with the "principle of remittance" could 
very well explain, accordingly to "modern science", the object of the 
citation. For us to observe the process on crystals by mean of science, 
I think, it would be necessary to go to quantum level. And for that, our 
minds are better instrument that anyone man as yet created in this 
century (to my knowledge).
 
Here is a page on "The law off resonance" applied in meditation:
 
http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/law-resonance.html
 
We could say, that by the same principle, in a restrictive way, as more 
and more people become enlighten, it will become more and more easier 
for the others to become enlighten.
 
Peace, Love and Light
 
Antoine Carre 
In the process of a K awakening.. 
Electrical engineer 
Montreal, Canada
 
-- 
Antoine Carré 
http://www.concentric.net/~acarre/ 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:39:37 
From: "The Langdons" <langdonATnospamnetsites.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: I am the full moon 
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Dear All, 
I have enjoyed immensely all the e-mil we have received, and thought I 
would relay what a heightened awareness you divine souls have brought to 
me.   It reminds me that once the seeds are planted, the rain does  
wonders.  After reading some letters and  the kundalini  web site, I have  
had vivid dreams, clear, beautiful spiritual dreams.  I am also 37 weeks 
pregnant and have  waited this entire pregnancy to get to a clear psychic 
place; and now, I soar!  I am the full moon; I feel this glorious  white 
light emmanating from my womb.  My husband/partner/soulmate and I are 
blessed to be  able to have a homebirth  with two wonderful wise 
women/midwives.  We are also  blessed to be living in  a beautiful home out 
in the woods, and I have visions of laboring outside under the  trees, 
feeling the power of the Earth under me, feeling one with all that is, was, 
will ever be.  The birthing experience is  a  powerful one,  I  feel the 
energy radiating from me.  It  is my greatest hope  that this "birthright" 
will be returned to its spiritual, HOLY,  origins.
 
Deep Peace,
 
Medea  
 
 
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