1997/09/04 00:14
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #429
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 429
Today's Topics:
Re: the masses
Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
Re: Aerobics+Prana
bye (fwd)
Love without letters
Re: Enough of Di
Re: Aerobics+Prana
To: John Living, et al
Re: A Life of Service (was: Kundalini Help)
Re: videography help
Re: bye (fwd)
Re: capacity to masturbate
Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
Re: Kundalini Help
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: Unidentified subject!
Re: page from my diary
Re: capacity to master.bait.bate
Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: energy place, (ENcircle)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 15:11:53
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the masses
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At 09:42 03/09/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>>
>> Serpent has a plan..
>> If fundamentalist preachers can do shaktipat over TV, so can Serpent..
>> except I will get a waaaaay wider audience.
>
>Gloria here:
>Notice the "I" that says it all. Do what thou wilt...has consequences it
>will catch up with you.
>
I will get the attention, Goddess does the awakening, so what's the problem?
I am the "ground crew", vehicle for spirit.
This project is much too huge for my little ego to manage. It found the
entire idea quite terrifying, it is ego that comes up with the fears and
limits, and it told me all about that one already, and spirit said that
fear is not real to spirit, so I locked ego up in a mental closet.
As a place to live, I find ego is getting much too small, with it's
endless fears and limitations. I am becoming far more at home in the
unconditional love and boundless generosity of spirit. My faith resides
there, not in your ego limits and warnings. I understand your good
intentions, and bless them tho.
Self and spirit will build my house together. It will be fun.
I happen to be really good at getting attention.. got yers, didn't I?
I suspect this is your own fear expressed.. you sure like it with the
fears and warnings. Maybe you are afraid all them little bandwidth demons
are gonna be coming after you to punish you for so stubbornly refusing to
snip your posts.. Tee hee!! :) If "Do what thou wilt" has consequences as
dire as you believe.
Still, it surprises me not at all that you share the view that women who
find their power will get unhappy endings.. It's not my fairy tale. I
dumped those pariarchal morality plays. "An it harm none": I find harm to
no-one in my plan. I move in love, that is all the protection I need.
Blessings, Serpent.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 16:26:26 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com
Subject: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
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Someone posted:
> > Here I am reminded of Bodhisattva Heart Sutra in Pali language.
> > Gate, gate , par gate , para gate , Bodhi , swaha. It means gone , gone,
> > gone beyond , gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening , all hail.
>
Just for the record - the sutra is the Sutra of the Heart (or Essence) of
the Perfection of Wisdom Sutra. As a sutra of the Mahayana literature it is
in Sanskrit and has no known analog in Pali. The mantra is:
gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
translating mantras is always dicey - the above translation is probably as
good as any other but ``bodhi'' simply means ``awakening''- ``O what an
awakening'' is a little overboard and ``svaha'' (svaahaa) was the wife of
Agni and I believe it's origin was in mantras associated with making the
fire offering but it eventually got tacked on to many mantras. I'd hesitate
to translate it as ``all hail'' or anything else.
So I know the original quotation works quite fine in making the point in
the original post but my reason for talking about it out of context is that
expositions on Buddhist topics come up quite regularly in this listserver.
Personally I find the many netnews newsgroups which deal with Buddhism such
as alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan, talk.religion.buddhism and a listserver
which has a number of Buddhist scholars who regularly post to it(buddha-l -
which I don't know how to join offhand) a better forum for exposition and
discussion of Buddhism because the postings get a kind of ``peer review''
and probably a more receptive audience.
Mangalam
Kurt
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 18:40:47
From: Terry Romine <tromineATnospamapple.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Aerobics+Prana
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>S.R.Peswani wrote:
>
>> Along with air that one inhales there is prana (buddhic plane
>> viberational energy) which is capable of reaching throughout the body and
>> mind becomes aware of it. When this prana strikes the karmas all
>> throughout the body purification or clearing or cleaning becomes faster.
>
>
>Any correlation between high intensity aerobic activity and
>
>intake of prana?
>
>One consumes 15-20 times more air while aerobically engaged.
>
>I can attest to the obvious emotional benefit.
>
>But is my karma purifying at an accelerated rate when I exercise?
>
>
>
>David
>
Properly breathing prana is done via the merkaba breaths; and also some
yogi teachings. Even tho it is taken in via the nose and mouth, it is not
properly utilized when done that way. So aerobically breathing won't help
much.
Sorry
EaTrom
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 18:36:15
From: Edward H Gurd <egurdATnospamserver1.netpath.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: bye (fwd)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970903183615.39c7712eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: bye
It's been nice knowing/talking with you.
I've learned and shared a lot.
Due to my isp charging me 300 for 2 months, i'm leaving the internet.
in case you care to mail me,
Edward Gurd
617 Ellen Drive
Gibsonville, NC 27249
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:19:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: "Wright, James 7929" <JwrightATnospamphelpsd.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Love without letters
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> How do you spell love? Without using letters?
> james
<3
(an emoticon heart...)
ori^
oriATnospameskimo.com
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:46:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enough of Di
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At 01:26 PM 9/3/97, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> Ladies of the list, as a Role Model for those with magic in their lives,
>I present: Morticia Addams. :)
Thank you. I accept your perfect-for-the-occasion present. It is, of
course, ideal.
M
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:08:25
From: "Hannah A. Kimsey/John S. Siegel" <jssaekATnospamc2i2.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Aerobics+Prana
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>
> Thanks for the information. I have a friend in her early 60's who has a
very healthy lifestyle and diet (Sai Baba type) and still experiences very
high blood pressure in sudden bursts. She also believes in sleeping in
corpse pose - hands folded over heart. Do you think the blood pressure and
sleeping position could be related? I intuitively feel they are. I think
that pose is not for everynight use, in my experience anyway. What would you
say?
>
> M
Dear M:
You are welcome. We believe that savasana should be mindfully utilized
after asana, pranayama, and exertion. The yogins generally feel that one
should sleep in what is referred to the "sleeping Buddha" pose of which
there are several variations. The Tibetan Buddhists use a version of the
Hindu but include mudras (i.e., a massive mudra for the face) which
essentially blocks the eyes, one nostril, and the mouth. It can be found
in Tibetan, Ayurvedic books (try 'Health for Life: Secrets Tibetan
Ayurveda," by Sachs, Clear Lights Publisher). By the way, there is also
another version of savasana that is done lying prone rather than supine.
It is used to primarily relax after backbending asanas.
Perhaps your friend's blood pressure is related to sodium retention. We
think that a low sodium/low fat diet, with gentle asana, relaxation, and
guided meditation, she should be able to easily and successfully lower
blood pressure (assuming no other underlying medical conditions). Also,
your friend may wish to examine some possible anger issues operating in
her life via meditation or other means.
There is another book your friend from which you friend may benefit
("Yoga for Common Ailments, Monroe, Nagarathna, and Nagendra).
This book states that friend may wish to avoid certain asanas such as
the prone and supine asanas, sun salutes, the moon, and rapid abdominal
breathing. In other words, gentle pranayama and standing/kneeling asanas
would be best.
Hope this helps your friend.
In peace,
Hannah and John
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:10:06
From: ay-2ATnospamwebtv.net (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: To: John Living, et al
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970903191006.481f4d8eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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You might check out the current edition of a magazine entitled, "What
Is Enlightenment?"
This issue contains numerous interviews, one of which I believe you
would find of particular interest: Georg Feurstein is questioned in
detail about the impact of western materialism upon the influx of
eastern spirituality ---- many of the points you brought up in your
posting are dis- cussed in depth.
This issue also contains LENGTHY interviews with others, including
Deepak Chopra and Dr. Laura. (YES! ---- that was ". . .with Dr.
Laura.")
p.s. I do NOT work for this magazine, nor do I have any financial
interest in bringing "What Is Enlightenment?" to your attention. I
simply thought in my brief perusal of it yesterday that this iss might
really interest alot of members of this mailing-list.
Namaste
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:52:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "Wright, James 7929" <JwrightATnospamphelpsd.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A Life of Service (was: Kundalini Help)
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>From: John Living[SMTP:jlivingATnospamdirect.ca]
><Snip!>
>>>But how many members are using their gifts to help others in normal
>life ?
><Snip!>
>>>I am sure that there are many on the list who are being active in doing
>>>good - if you could respond by indicating how you do this, you would be
>>>setting a good example for others to follow !
><Snip!>
I do this:
A) continuously
B) covertly (I am well disguised as your average human being)
and
C) by setting a good example for others to follow !
M
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 20:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Terry Romine <tromineATnospamapple.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: videography help
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Thank you Terry.
I once heard someone describe the progression as victim, victor, vehicle -
the last one meaning vehicle of God's Will. I am not sure I want to
encourage these young women to become predatory...but I will explore the
plot lines and consider adding them. Your contribution is appreciated. M
At 12:11 PM 9/3/97 -0700, Terry Romine wrote:
>well, I realize that they are only science fiction, but I LOVE the
>character of Ripley in the Alien movies and also Linda Hamilton's in the
>two Terminator movies. She makes great progress from being the victom in
>the first movie to the preditor in the second one.
>
>EaTrom
>
>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:44:17 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Edward H Gurd (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <egurdATnospamserver1.netpath.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: bye (fwd)
Message-ID: <340DBE10.206EATnospamintercomm.com>
Edward H Gurd (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
>
Edward sorry to see you go, the right doors will open and you will be
back on. Gloria
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:53:04 -0700
From: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: capacity to masturbate
Message-ID: <340E2290.53DBATnospamflarity.com>
E Jason wrote:
>
>
> People think sincerity is proportional to the number of questions one
> asks. No. Sincerity is proportional to the number of answers one finds.
> One of our greatest difficulties is our tendency to describe ourselves
> when describing others.
> This is spiritual masterbation.
> Dear Friends, [look at my fine example]
resting in the arms of a good question,
joe
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:39:21 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com
Subject: Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
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On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> Someone posted:
> > > Here I am reminded of Bodhisattva Heart Sutra in Pali language.
> > > Gate, gate , par gate , para gate , Bodhi , swaha. It means gone , gone,
> > > gone beyond , gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening , all hail.
> >
>
> Just for the record - the sutra is the Sutra of the Heart (or Essence) of
> the Perfection of Wisdom Sutra. As a sutra of the Mahayana literature it is
> in Sanskrit and has no known analog in Pali. The mantra is:
>
> gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
>
> translating mantras is always dicey - the above translation is probably as
> good as any other but ``bodhi'' simply means ``awakening''- ``O what an
> awakening'' is a little overboard and ``svaha'' (svaahaa) was the wife of
> Agni and I believe it's origin was in mantras associated with making the
> fire offering but it eventually got tacked on to many mantras. I'd hesitate
> to translate it as ``all hail'' or anything else.
>
> So I know the original quotation works quite fine in making the point in
> the original post but my reason for talking about it out of context is that
> expositions on Buddhist topics come up quite regularly in this listserver.
> Personally I find the many netnews newsgroups which deal with Buddhism such
> as alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan, talk.religion.buddhism and a listserver
> which has a number of Buddhist scholars who regularly post to it(buddha-l -
> which I don't know how to join offhand) a better forum for exposition and
> discussion of Buddhism because the postings get a kind of ``peer review''
> and probably a more receptive audience.
> Mangalam
> Kurt
>
>
Kurt,
you must be right. ram is no scholar , nor has he written all
this for anyone. ram has written it probably for himself. ram also
refuses to accept himself as buddhist scholar.Neither is ram ready to
discuss , he is just expressing himself.
inner voice
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 21:41:35 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com
Subject: Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
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At 09:39 AM 9/4/97 +0500, S.R.Peswani wrote:
> Kurt,
> you must be right. ram is no scholar , nor has he written all
>this for anyone. ram has written it probably for himself
Ram, I love this part of your response!
> ram also refuses to accept himself as buddhist scholar.
But this part?
Has someone suggested to you that you are a buddhist scholar?
Is there a touch of ego creeping in here?
We all need some strokes.
I know I sure do!
May you live in Peace, Love, and Joy,
Ken
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:50:10
From: Bobwood655ATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Help
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I think that the "work" provides times when I can actively help others.
There are also times when the "work" requires that I focus on myself.
Wherever I am in the process is where I need to be and "thy will" that needs
to be done becomes apparent if I am open enough to truly hear.
If I do not hear, the "work" will continue the opening process to help me
hear.
B
PS- I help others sometimes by sharing my process.
I help others on a daily basis in my job.
I help others sometimes just by listening.
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 22:42:11
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamMagicCity.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> Serpent has a plan.. to write a book and become both famous and
> notorious, to lure consumer culture into reading and watching interviews
> with me on talk shows by the curiosity of their "baser instincts"
I think your book would work for three reasons:
1. You write clearly
2. You have a unique angle
3. People are attracted to their "baser instincts"--as you have said
I know I would be interested in your book. Keep us posted!
Namaste,
Nancy
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 23:10:30
From: "Szigeti, Mikl s Gbor" <h13821sziATnospamella.hu> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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> Danielle R Dumont by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> > I do have a question - I have a 6 year old daughter and wonder how to
> > tell her about K, how to get her started if she desires to, and is she
> > too young?
> > Love & LIght
> >
> > Jacintha
>
In fact, Napoleon was famous for having a very large attention span - he
was able to focus on more than a dozen things going on at a time. Maybe
it is time to inform the World that he had an awakened K, or attention
span has not much to do with K?
It is a question.
Miklos
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 23:18:04
From: NasalamATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: page from my diary
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970903231804.4ed72724ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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In a message dated 97-09-03 06:43:29 EDT:
> Deepak Chopra... Afamous author whom I have not read. I hope
someone else answers you
Chopra has become one of the biggest names in the New Age movement in
America. He is basically a doctor of ayurvedic medicine who has expanded his
teaching to include many subjects. He is interesting, but it is my opinion
that in most of his books he suggests that he's going to give more than he
actually does give. That is my impression, but many people do seem to gain
something from him.
namaste
uriel
=====================================
Uriel Andros
Nasalam - A Spiritual Community for the New Age
nasalamATnospamaol.com
http://members.aol.com/nasalam/
=====================================
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 22:53:23
From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: capacity to master.bait.bate
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970903225323.3d7fe9a8ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 07:53 PM 9/3/97 -0700, you wrote:
>E Jason wrote:
>>
>>
>> People think sincerity is proportional to the number of questions one
>> asks. No. Sincerity is proportional to the number of answers one finds.
>
>> One of our greatest difficulties is our tendency to describe ourselves
>> when describing others.
>
>> This is spiritual masterbation.
>
>> Dear Friends, [look at my fine example]
>
>resting in the arms of a good question,
>
>joe
>
(^I wouldn't know what to do with myself if it wasn't for lobster.
(^the tongue in cheekiness of Jason's sends always crack me up.
(^thr bland, doggeral satire is a wonderous dragon test, isn't it tho?
(^I most likely would get very bored and move on to another list,
(^if it weren't for the dichotomous sendings of one lobster,
(^claiming godhood a full two days before serpent went on the
(^"here's LUCY(fur) " rampage. this master baiting of the viewers is
(^BETTER than sexlicking ballderdash.
(^so? be aware, that little modem eWE're playing with,
(^is allowing USe.... to see how foolish/foppish/silly/child/like-ish
(^all of us CAN be (I go as far as saying "should" be.)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 23:01:34
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Cc: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>,
Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Buddhism, heart sutra in particular
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I think it is rather, Ram's inner voice commenting on his humility.. he
is a buddhist scholar, he is studying buddhism, isn't he? So he hasn't got
all the answers yet and avoids titles? A scholar is not a person who has
finished studying, it is a person who IS studying. Whether he goes to the
U. of Buddah or the U. of Life/kundalini makes little difference. He has
the blue fire scholarship, sponsored by Goddess..
Blessings, A.
At 21:41 03/09/97 -0700, Ken McFarland wrote:
>At 09:39 AM 9/4/97 +0500, S.R.Peswani wrote:
>> ram also refuses to accept himself as buddhist scholar.
>
>But this part?
>Has someone suggested to you that you are a buddhist scholar?
>Is there a touch of ego creeping in here?
>We all need some strokes.
>I know I sure do!
>
>May you live in Peace, Love, and Joy,
>Ken
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
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Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 22:50:56
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamMagicCity.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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E Jason wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> One of our greatest difficulties is our tendency to describe ourselves
> when describing others. We say this is good, bad, rubbish, profound or
> some other value. What we have in fact described is our reaction, not
> the inherent worth or worthlessness of what is said.
>
> We are also happy to twist and pervert anything said to our own bias. We
> think we are being guided or taught when being given information. We
> think we are being spiritual when talking in a certain way, acting in a
> certain manner and advancing along a path of our own preference.
>
> This is spiritual masterbation.
Isn't this description your judgement of worth? How does this differ from
what you are criticizing?
>
> The spiritual path consists of becoming aware, of listening to what can
> be heard. If you do not listen to what you are saying and constantly
> adapt and improve its potential. If you do not realise that silence is
> sometimes more eloquent, how can you ever gain genuine insight?
Maybe this is your judgement of "genuine insight." Someone else may find
"genuine insight" by hauling garbage or reading or working or having sex.
>
> People think sincerity is proportional to the number of questions one
> asks. No. Sincerity is proportional to the number of answers one finds.
How can you know what "sincerity" is for me? You haven't lived in my soul.
> We think a teacher is someone who thinks for us, answering our endless
> mind chatter. No. A teacher is somone who develops in us the capacity to
> think for ourselves and find the answers we need.
How do you know that answering "endless mind chatter" isn't a path to
enlightment?
>
> People say I want to know. They are told. They say, "Yes but I did not
> want to know like this."
I say this is their path.
Just food for thought for you, Lobster.
Namaste,
Nancy
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 23:11:03
From: "jh2owbmATnospammoa.net" <jh2owbmATnospammoa.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: energy place, (ENcircle)
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Thank you for the reply.
I will set up an altar of my own in tribute to GOD the MOTHER and ME
and it will include all of you as well and everything and everywhere.
I will read some of the posts we(the list) have written to sanctify it.
Yah, I had to ask.
Somtimes I need a smack upside the head to wake me up.
>(^not true. the energy is there; dormant. not gone. just left not in use.
>(^that energy lies waiting to link up anywhere you want it!
>(^ make a sacred space yourself. re-charge/re-pair the one left by the girl,
>(^ if it suits you. You seem to remember that space with fondness..
>(^which is ALways a plus when setting up sacred dialog spots.
>(^no more knowing. blocks the learning. no suggestions. just options.
>(^ what you choose is your own path generater.
>(^but with too little back-up data, many folks are too timid to move
forwards.
>>
>
>(^that space you found? they used to be EVERYWHERE.
>(^what happened to them?
>(^..television.
>(^american human's focus turned away from organic altar creation
>(^and towards the simpler method of take: no give: namely?
>(^ absorbing prana via un-natural resources, fabricated by others
>(^to entertain while possibly enlightening, too.
>
>(^ the largest dillusion humans seem to face,
>(^is the belief that "making points" is the goal of "following" spiritual
>linkpaths.
>
>(^storys MUST have a "point".. right? (yeah, right.. then what's left?)
>(^life /memory/places/events\training\actions\repercussions\memory
>(^just a series of points. dots. quadrant lables.
>>(^you want to know where to find new sacred space?
>(^1. everywhere you bother to focus. newer area to find?
>(^2. webspace(altars)
>(^3. gif+jpegs (fetishes)
>(^4. newsgroups (beings)
>
>(^uh... was that clear enough folks?
>(^no word games to de-pointalize the picture?
>
>(^go0DD. I need to stop typing like this.
>(^It leaves me drained of energy to make blunt statements
>(^that come across arrogant, instead of superfluous.
What's the point? :)
What a blessing it is to be with such a group of people to keep us awake.
A nice thought from Ruth.
Sometimes I just want to spout off about how good it feels to be HERE, NOW.
But I keep my mouth closed because I would probably ramble useless
information that most people can't use. Thanks for being understanding.
Ahh. I'm going to have a gotorade now.
mtmindATnospamusa.net
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