1997/09/02 16:17
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #425
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 425
Today's Topics:
page from my diary 1.
Re: HI
Re: page from my diary 1. (fwd)
HAWAII GODS and Kahunas
Re: Unidentified subject!
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: Serge King-Hawaiian Huna
Kundalini Awakening - NO DRUGS
re: <none>
Re: Martyr
Aerobics+Prana
Re: life imitates melodrama, dammit
Re: page from my diary
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:52:23 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: page from my diary 1.
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Saturday, 14 December, 1996
My present birth name is Ram Peswani. I have started walking on
the spiritual path from July 92. After considerable deliberation I have
come to conclusion that I am following Arya path as mentioned in a book
named "Voice of Silence" published by Theosoph ical Society and claimed to
be told by ADEPTS (super human beings). I shall first write about this
Arya Path of spirituality in brief before proceeding about myself.
After one becomes Stream Enterer , the aspirent walking on this
path meets with thorns and flints which drip blood from his hands and feet
while he is climbing. Mara (punishing elements) wields his strongest arms.
But the pilgrim glides up the path calm ly and unmoved. Because he knows
that more blood he drips cleaner he will be. Also he knows that after
seven short and fleeting births Nirvana will be his. This is Dyana
(meditation) path. The pain will go away after he becomes Arhant and his
journey wil l be that of Bodhisattva for remaining seven births . He will
be full of only Divine compassion. Not all the Arhants can reach Nirvana.
And neither all the Buddhas opt for Nirvana. This Arya Path is of the
Buddhas of perfection. Now I shall mention my e xperiences which will
throw light on me being on this path.
1) While attending first course in Igatpuri on Vippasana
meditation, on the sixth day I had two very deep experiences due to high
degree of Will Power inculcated through many previous births.
a) Whole of sixth night I had intensive shaking and pain in my
body , so much so that I felt I was going to die of heart failure.
b) My thinking and philosphy became cohesive and logical for me.
Lots of questions were cleared. Almost no doubts were left. My path on
that day became exceptionally clear . I needed no teacher or guru. I
celebrated my remaining four days stay every mom ent at Igatpuri. I
literally was flying with happiness. I do not thind I would have been more
happy with anything that this world could have offered to me.
2) I had deep experience of happiness after that day for every
moment for one and half months. Many new and happy experiences were coming
during this period. Due to tremendous faith I became vegetarian , left
smoking and drinking from the first moment at
Igatpuri. Earlier I was terribly angry with this world . Many times I
imagined killing people on the roads with guns . I often thought of
suicide. I was being tortured by my mind day in day out with hatred ,
fear, jealousies etc. For that whole one and h alf month I enjoyed
friendship and love with whole world.
3) But I knew and knew well that deep inside me my mind is filled
with filth , and this feeling of happiness was temporary . But than I also
knew the method of cleaning my mind of this filth permanently by Dhyana
meditation which was probably legacy of m ine from previous lives. This
path or intitution that became clear to me at Igatpuri on sixth day. So I
continued to walk on this path of Dhyana with full speed without bothering
about this happiness and kept a pure SEER mood towards this happiness.
4) Then one day after one and half months I moved my Dhyana to my
spinal chord. The result was a sudden erruption of sensations . These
sensations took hold of me that day onwards. Continuously they were
pouring out of my spinal chord at the bottom of ne ck for more than a
year.First erruption from the neck lasted for almost three months. Then a
few days respite and again eruption started. Duration was less than three
months this time. These sensations will accumulate all over body and
cause a lot of pa in in the head , in the neck and all over the body. The
pain would be so much that I could not continuously sleep for more than
one to two hours at night or day. My throat will become parched and I
would be often thirsty. This pressure of pain would get r elief only by my
sitting in Dhyana and being a seer. As soon as I would get up from Dhyana
, the accumulation will start again. So my life was pain , thirst , heat
and Dhyana for all the time. My outside world also was crumbling . First
one factory went
on fire , then second factory had fire , then workers strike came up ,
Goondas entered the factories in the form of unions , there was beating of
loyal workers by the union. Afterwards rivals took away our orders and
last of all they took away our loyal workers and as well as our staff. All
my factories almost came to standstill. No production and no earnings .
Factories have not recovered till today.
5) All the time I was fully busy with my Dhyana and sensations. My
son had taken over the factories earlier. I never gave him any help except
a little advice , which hardly helped. I told him that nothing is
important for me except this Dhyana. In fact
nothing happening outside disturbed me. I was firmly convinced that
inside karmas were being reflected outside and giving me the punishment.
Ultimately nothing of outside world matters for me. My only son and family
will have their own share of karmas and are not going to be effected by my
karmas.
6) Igatpuri teachers and many other saints who crossed my path
warned my family and me telling me that my path was wrong. Vippasana
teacher of Igatpuri went to the extent of warning my family , telling them
that we are heading for complete destruction and told them of a family and
the person who followed this path . He said the man is now wandering like
a mad person , no body to take care of him and his family is completly
ruined. But not even a minor shaking of faith in me happened and I
continuously
and vigoursly followed this path.
7) Later after one year I came to know of Prana Energy. This
energy will flow in and out with inhaling and exhaling along with my
meditation awareness. This energy speeded up my process of cleaning of
karmas .
8) But one thing surprising was happening all the time. My
diseases which were many in number and some of them were quite bad were
going away one by one , my health was improving day by day.
a)Prior to July 92 , I was suffering from following
diseases:-Weakness , severe migraine headaches since last ten years,
dryness and white spots and rashes in scalps since ten years and would not
go even after repeated head shavings.Liquid oozing out o f back of ears.
Contiuous cold and cough since many years.Tonsils coming four times in a
year since childhood so strongly that even swallowing will cause pain.
Right side cheek vein swollen and having two lumps of five mm on the vein
, making it difficu lt for me to chew on right side. Pain in mouth always
and I could never open my mouth fully. Whole right side of body from feet
to neck always heavy and weak. Pain in knees while climbing. Apart from
this I was listless and confused and had disturbed slee p .Piles with lot
of blood flowing out. I had to be very particular about my food. I could
not eat rice , potatoes and many vegitables, sweets and fried things. My
food quantity also had to be carefully taken care of. Life was a big pain.
b) On june 94 my condition changed as follows:- All above
diseases almost completely gone except for piles returning once a year.
Always felt
fresh and had a song in my heart.Felt very very clean as if I had just
taken bath and brushed my teeth. Freshn ess and sweetness of honey in the
mouth. I could eat well anything and every thing . I enjoyed all sorts of
food fried as well as party food. I could open my mouth fully , and first
time when I did this , believe me it was one of the pleasant surprises of
my life.
9) I became a Stream Enterer in July 94. One month prior to this I
was at top both physically and mentally and when I searched my whole body
there were no karmas visible. This could be done with Prana Energy which
was flowing along with my breath inhali ng and exhaling since last six
months. At the end of July 94 suddenly I became aware of another kind of
energy. Later I came to know that as Nibhana Dhattu.
10) This Nibhana dhatu again brought a big change. This energy
will come as a white light for a few seconds and then disappear. But its
coming will disturb all the hidden karmas and my whole body will again
remain in pain , with disturbed nights , drynes s etc, as mentioned
earlier. After cleaning this dirt which may take a few days again this
light will appear and the process of cleaning will continue automatically.
(I now realise that I had started walking on the pathe of compassion, that
is I was integ rating astral souls in sleep and growing). The evolution of
this body is out of the hands of so called Ram Peswani and this is what is
called the stream entered soul.
11) Since then another important thing happened. Suddenly knowlege
from nowhere started coming in. I felt that I know the gist of all the
Vedas , Upnishdas , Gita and all the buddhic thinking etc, etc,. I had
many opportunaties of talking with learned p eople and came out very well
with this knowledge. I also enjoyed this experience , as I was also armed
with practical experience. There was also inflow of knowledge which is new
and not mentioned in any book . I have noted down all this knowledge .
Many s cholars may not agree but I firmly believe in it.
12) I have a sincere feeling that this new knowledge can be
usefull to different type of people , who are well educated , research
minded,logical and do not have faith easily on anything. Even if this
knowledge awakens but a few souls,I think that I wi ll have done some
service to myself.
13) My process of cleaning is still continuing in Dec. 96 . Now I
sleep well for four hours at a stretch. Pain is nominally there . There is
feeling nay surety that all life is one with me. Where have jealousy and
hatred gone, I do not know. There is sti ll a little traces of fear.
Complete freedom is not yet there , but time for complete freedom from
fear etc, is fast approaching.
14) There is confidence that in this very life in a very short
time of a year or two destination of Arhant will be there and then in this
very life I shall be walking on the path of Bodhisattva. - 15) I do have a
feeling of Nirvana experience and how life and work will be at that stage
, which may take 7 short fleeting lives as Bodhisattva as mentioned at the
start.
ram
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 03:31:47 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: "by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>" <onarresATnospaminreach.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HI
Message-ID: <340A6F63.561ATnospambridge.net>
HI Dor,
Welcome back, bienvenida!!!
We missed you...
Love and light.....
(sounds like a yummie ice cream flavor.... low fat too!)
Lissette
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:25:13 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Cc: kalpana somai <krsomaiATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: page from my diary 1. (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:23:30 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: S.R.Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Stephane Marconi <marconiATnospamschp5.unige.ch>
Cc: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
Subject: Re: page from my diary 1.
On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Stephane Marconi wrote:
> >
>
>
> Dear ram,
>
> I have long enjoyed your postings and this last one has rang a bell.
>
> I would like you to tell me more about this Nibhana Dhattu. The reason
> is that I too experience another kind of energy than Prana. I still am
> trying to understand it better.
>
>
> My physical experience of Prana is that of either a warm, soothing
> sensation or when I am physically weaker, a bubbling, windlike feeling.
>
> There has been in my life another sensation more like a quick shiver.
> My first memory of it is when one day, walking to school, I prononced
> the words "FATHER". Somehow I had remembered GOD. At first, I didn't
> take any notice, but this last year, this feeling as grown as to happen
> nearly at will. This quick shiver starting at my head can sometimes be
> strong enough to lift my arms.
>
> I do not know if this is what you name Nibhana Dhattu, but there is
> another elements that pushes me to ask you more about it. This year
> I have started to be conscious of some process which takes place during my
> sleep. On two occasion, I have dreamed of men who are evil by their
> ways and twice I was kind of forced to love them. At that moment in the
> dream, this shiver like sensation happened. It felt more like
> it catapulted me out of my body.
>
>
> sincerely yours,
>
> Stefan Marconi
>
PRANA ENERGY..... While breathing in air , if you take your mind
(attention) to any part of body say legs or arms, you will have a feeling
as if that part is breathing. And when you have purified your conscious
body fully , you will feel as if you are inhaling air and it is going to all
the body from top of head to toes of feet.> >
Along with air that one inhales there is prana (buddhic plane
viberational energy) which is capable of reaching throughout the body and
mind becomes aware of it. When this prana strikes the karmas all
throughout the body purification or clearing or cleaning becomes faster.
Nibhana Dhatu.... Prana energy is not capable of breaking
concentrated karmas ( galaxis, milkways ,nebuleas) of the body. It goes
around them and cannot break them or purify or clean or clear them. But
if one practices AWARENESS meditation ( thoughtless meditation) for a
long time a very strong wave of Atmic energy in the form of white light
appears in the body . And it breaks one of these dense karmas . After
this karma breaks its kalapas again spread ove the body . And the body
becomes full of impurities. But all these dense karmas are harbinger of
diseases and one can cure diseases by this Nibhana Dhatu.
Nibhana Dhatu can come only after intense very long periods of
meditation on Suniata
ram
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 09:39:15 -0500
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: HAWAII GODS and Kahunas
Message-ID: <340C2513.6646ATnospamprodigy.net>
> 'A'Ohe pau ka 'ike i ka halau ho'okahi
> (All knowledge is not taught in the same school)
OH.. btw..all vowels are pronounced in Hawaiian.. So Kaala is K a a la
and Waikiki is Pronounced Wa I Ke ke.. the emphasis on each vowel makes
the word musical in my thinking. :>
To the Hawaiians, all natural happenings were directed or influenced by
the gods. They were constantly asking for the aid and protections of
thm. The greatest of the gods(AKUA) worshipped and revered throughout
Polynesia were "Ku, Kane, Lono and Kanaloa". There were also many
lesser gods who were worshipped by individual families or groups of
craftsman. The family gods were called "Aumakua" and every house had its
alter (Kua'aha) where prayers were offered. The gods were represented
either by unshaped wood and stone objects or by objects carved to
resemble men.
THe open air temples were called "Heiaus". "Aha" was perfections
demanded by the gods.
Interesting enough "WAKEA" was the sky-father, papa and the Earth
Mother.
"KANE" (Pronounced KA NEE) was the God of birth and the leading god of
the Hawaiians when the missionaries arrived."KANAOLA" was also related
and thought to be the same as "KANE" with a slight distinction of being
the Healer. Kane actually means "MAN" in Hawaiian. This was the gods
that were of the crops, springers, protectors of canoe builders and
fisherman.
LONO was the Shark God, and the fertility god who appeared i clouds and
storms People prayed to him for Abundant fish. Sports event were held
to honor Lono. One of his symbols was a long pole with strips of white
tapa and feaher wreaths attached and was carried from distrit to
district when taxes were collected.
KU was the dark god. Very strict religious ceremonies which included
human sacrifices were to honor KU. He was the power God and usually Sons
of the Chief's dedicated themselves to him to become great warriors.
Kanamakua was the Fisherman's god,
Kane-puaa was the Farmers' god and
Ku kaili moku was the God of War.
The ceremonies honoring the Gods were often performed before idols,
which were believe to have "MANA" (power, energy).
The Priesthood of the Hawaiians are called the Kahuna Lapaau (who had
special knowledge of medicines) Other Kahunas had different duties.much
like the Druids.
KAPU's were things forbidden and is still used today for telling people
to keep off the grass or not to take lava rock from the areas. Oh..
Madam Pele is said to not be very happy with anyone that takes anything
from the Volcano areas and bad luck will follow them until they return
what they took.
While I appreciate your wonderful information. It has been known for
years that the Real Kahuna's DO NOT work with White.. Haole's. We took
their lands from them.. Like we did the American Indian and they still
aren't happy about it. But because "aint no big theeng" and DaKine joke
is mo'betta. They Love to set up the stupid rich Haole's from da
mainland. Some of the info out there just isn't right.
Mahalo,
Keiki O Kaina
flute
Information is from An Old School Text Book. Called "Hawaii, Our Island
State by Potter and Kasdon)copyright 1979.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 09:29:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Danielle R Dumont by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>" <jacinthaATnospamjuno.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <340BCE4E.1B26ATnospamintercomm.com>
Danielle R Dumont by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> Hello list friends
>
> This is not a problem but rather a question. 99 % of the time that I am
> reading something and I have background noise on (TV or Radio) I hear the
> exact word that I happen to be reading at that exact moment in time.
>
> I read this list faithfully and am trying to develop my K as well as my
> spirituality. This list is very insightful and helpful.
>
> I do have a question - I have a 6 year old daughter and wonder how to
> tell her about K, how to get her started if she desires to, and is she
> too young?
>
> I know when the student is ready the teacher will appear - I have put in
> my request :)
>
> MOVIES - anyone thought about NELL?
>
> Love & LIght
>
> Jacintha
I wouldn't take her along that road, let her come to it on her own. Then
it is time. Gloria
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 09:32:58 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Candy Griffin (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <cgriffiATnospamptinet.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Candy Griffin (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
> Please is there anyone out there who had a spontaneous, lengthy, and
> non-drug induced kundalini experience??? I spent ten years building up to
> the point where the energy cleared my crown. From the study I have done
> since, I had a complete and very classic experience. The few people I have
> met who have had "kundalini" experiences were all related to drugs. Mine
> was not. It was a deeply mystical experience, done with much prayer, and
> difficulty, and psyiological as well as mental and physical changes. It
> was not easy and at times I thought I was losing my sanity. I would love
> to find others who have gone through the complete experience up to and
> including the "well what happens next phase"??? I have many questions and
> no learned "spiritual master" to turn to. Even the best reading material I
> can find is pretty bleak when it comes to answers to the "what now" phase
> of unfolding.... Please.... serious responses only..... Your input is very
> much appreciated. Thank you Can!
> !
> !
> dise...
Dise,
I've had a natural awakening without drugs which has pretty much been
going on all of my adult life with conscious knowing through out my
childhood, I'm 51. Check out my homesite and then we will talk. Gloria
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 09:37:57 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Mike Beaver (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Serge King-Hawaiian Huna
Message-ID: <340BD064.5736ATnospamintercomm.com>
> I worked with one lady who had multiple personalities who had about a
> dozen people who abused her daily for many years. In the releasing
> process she released hundreds of events and eventually the subconscious
> mind stopped communicating altogether. This happens in some sessions
> because the subconscious mind will not let you release too much in a
> given session. If too much were released the person would go insane;
> which does happen on rare occasions to meditators who inadvertently pull
> up too much stuff from the subconscious. I believe their connection to
> the collective subconscious mind spoken of by Edgar Cayce, available in
> the dream world while asleep comes on permanently to the point where
> they are dreaming while awake; sort of like when we're lucid (awake)
> while dreaming in lucid dreams (only the reverse).
>
> Sincerely;
>
> Mike Beaver
> yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
Mike,
You could have taken something on in this process, the imp we were
talking about. Gloria
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal
> of the mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good
> and acceptable.--- Romans 12 2
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Checkout Mike Beaver's Hypnotherapy Home Page at
> http://www.bandwidth.net/yoda
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:11:07 -0500
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Kundalini Awakening - NO DRUGS
Message-ID: <340C56BB.2C53ATnospamprodigy.net>
I have not used any drugs of any kind to induce a state of awakening.
I find that even a small glass of wine inhabits my awareness and
sensativity.
Love,
flute
Date: 02 Sep 97 14:21:00 CDT
From: LWAITEATnospamgc.gundluth.org (LAWRENCE WAITE D.O.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: <none>
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>Date: 01-Sep-1997 13:20:42 -0500
>From: kundalini-l-requestATnospamexecpc.com
>To: LWAITEATnospamGC.GUNDLUTH
>Subject: <none>
>
>After reading all of the posts this morning, I think we have to get to
>the bottom of what is here... which is 3 different souls time to leave
>this plane.
>
> We can certainly converse on the way it came about, and perhaps it will
>be used to balance some of the obvious corruption in the media system.
>However, Diana was in her creating process and came to the end of it for
>this experience. Her lack of privacy for sure was a factor in what she
>could live with, but she certainly came in and made a statement. She
>stood up to a system that as she said on an interview was all head,
>while she was all heart.
>
>Diana knew that her role was one of public, looking to have a regular
>life was not in the cards for her this time around. These decisions fit
>into the soul/spirit agenda, not into the mind/thought one...remember
>two others went out with her. Everyone mourns Di but the other two were
>important as well.
>
>Diana had a type of energy that confronted the established system,
>anyone with her would be affected by it, at the same time she was
>fragile, unhappy and very tired of her role.
>
> She made a decision probably over a period of time, the cause and
>effect came together and the photographers were used...and who is to say
>that it wouldn't have happened anyway without them. It would have been
>different if they were not there, wouldn't it?
>
> The world needs to look at the way it puts people in that place of
>fame, which creates this maddness around their every act. Each person
>who takes this particular part of the drama hungered for the attention,
>money, excitement, identity, none of it just happens. Each individual
>creates it, do remember it. The life they lead creates the excitement
>for the average person to look to as 'wonderful, dramatic, exciting.'
>
>We live at a time of great change, perhaps what is coming down is a
>reflection into the minds and hearts of the mass consciousness. How much
>time can be given to this illusion when the reality is in our lap.
>Gloria
>>
>
The ripples of tragedy reach out, unless the hurt is healed-tragedy begits
tragedy. Transformation allows the healing. Larr
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 16:27:38 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Martyr
Message-ID: <340C76BA.10A0ATnospammail.snet.net>
awp (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
> To see exceptional quality in another opens two facets, one is to
> aspire to attaining a specific quality as part of the self, the other is
> to excuse oneself on the grounds of impossibility (of attainment).
Or, come to the realization that the source of the quality we
observe in another is our own self, and that we have projected this
quality
outward in our attempt to deny it in ourself.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 16:54:22 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Aerobics+Prana
Message-ID: <340C7CFE.7BB9ATnospammail.snet.net>
S.R.Peswani wrote:
> Along with air that one inhales there is prana (buddhic plane
> viberational energy) which is capable of reaching throughout the body and
> mind becomes aware of it. When this prana strikes the karmas all
> throughout the body purification or clearing or cleaning becomes faster.
Any correlation between high intensity aerobic activity and
intake of prana?
One consumes 15-20 times more air while aerobically engaged.
I can attest to the obvious emotional benefit.
But is my karma purifying at an accelerated rate when I exercise?
David
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:12:32
From: Carl J R Johansson <cjjohansATnospamcc.helsinki.fi> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: life imitates melodrama, dammit
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On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Carl J R Johansson wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, M wrote:
> I freely admit however (as some might have suspected) that it might be
> difficult for me personally to live in such a society, I have experienced
> a number of put-downs by assertive women in my life already (most notably
> my step-mother). Not wishing to spoil the mailing list with some gender
> war, and hoping that respondents do not wish that either (so let's try to
> stay even-minded, shall we?).
>
Actually (for whom it may concern) I discovered now in retrospect
that my heart does not agree with this particular line of thought
(schizophrenic, isn't it?). (It might perhaps be part of some lesson
I have yet to learn, perhaps humility?) So please take it as something I
didn't say.
cj
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:16:07
From: "Sergio Lucio Maria" <sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: page from my diary
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970902131607.3d670fa0ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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I am of Brazil. I have been accompanying this list and I would like to
know:
1 what is kalapas?
2 who is Deepak Chopra?
Therefore I will order some texts of Master Samael, that soon you will know
about him.
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