1997/09/02 00:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #424
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 424
Today's Topics:
i see what your thinking:)
Re: An apology..
Ayurvedic???
Re: what eWE (k)N0W: lobsterFACeTbrEYEbrain
Re: To equilibrate chakra
Re: Vomiting
Off subject
Unidentified subject!
Re: videography help
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Work with love
RE: meditation
what is the point of the story?
Martyr
Dream
the masses
Re: Serge King-Hawaiian Huna
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Re: Message about Gurumayi
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daforce2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: i see what your thinking:)
Message-ID: <970901204640_500153871ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
hi, since my third eye has opened ive got a knack for seeing images in
peoples energy.not there aura but there
energy in there body.i was reading were this energy is the subconscious mind.
and that the colors in the energy could clue you in to the emotions and
thereby the
thoughts of the person.i dont see this energy as colors just blue and green.
but like i said,i see images the person is thinking.is there anyone who knows
about
this sort of thing and can tell me whats going on?
thanks in advance. terry:)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:20:09
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Subject: Re: An apology..
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Allo Mystress,
Now I wish to speak to you on the subject of Anima Mundi, world soul
and it's branches. As a collective energy we are strong and yet in that
collective electric blue exists all things. I see also the Hydra and in
reacton to action it raises it's heads in a personification of the
politics of ego. The big fish eats little fish eats smaller fish eats
plankton,... (I love plankton myself)
The "gift of the Goddess" is a focal point in the human vehicle
microcosm through which all information existing in the macrocosm
universal collective may be made manifest.
For certain, archaic analysis of phycosis as frightening illness has
not always been the way of the people, but this is a rationalistic
analitic culture in which saftey manuals generate great revenue. If the
feeling is of an ant on a leaf riding a great wave on a stormy sea
perhaps a manual of safty first may be in order for that individual.
It is true that the world as I know it may be a sterile desert. Still
I can not accept the K-list carte blanche as a oasis from the fear that
prevades, as I have met the Hydra. It is a reality to some, if not all
those affected by the awareness of this spirit, to know also of the
rocks at the bottom of a personal cliff. The expressed concern for you
is not then unjustified, even in evolving circles. Not to be a smart-
a** but I always think that if my butt is close to mother earth then it
will not hurt so much if I fall (I once had an intrest in skydiving but
there was an accident/sabatoge and I died). It is not a fear of falling
but rather that I can still feel the warmth of the sun and the grounding
of the earth simutaneously.
I love your wickedness for the sake of lack of balance in Goddess
cultures. Too much Persephone, not enough Hecate. Without the latter who
would retrieve the first?
Tanks and super Flashcord
Namaste,
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:20:33
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ayurvedic???
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Dear DChurn,
I often am inhibited by vertigo, whether I am going down stairs
or someone very phychic is entering my sphere. I find that if my
K-energy is up then a cool breeze can knock me over. Would you (or
anyone) expand on what a Ayurvedic physician is? How does it relate to
vertigo or being dizzy? Any insite would be very appreciated.
Namaste and Joy,
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:20:58
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: what eWE (k)N0W: lobsterFACeTbrEYEbrain
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Olah! brEYEnProstir,
In regards to your script, abstract enTICEs eyesbrainflow
It seems not probleMATIC O-mechanicCa; in grind stop alt sociofluent
tYpos
It is newunder the SUNMOONSTARS; U always whirl reconfiguration of large
general
Please include me-o-my address in your musTranchannell tales
It IS panty free in space! Q.who cares in trails of dung? A.only leeks.
Grrrl Dragon Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:21:44
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: To equilibrate chakra
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Dear Sergio,
I have become very ill in the past from imbalance base (sexual) chakra.
I spent many months trying to figure it out for myself.
This is one model of how the chakra system works- imagine a car,
pistons, fuel tank, motor and so on. Each part must operate fully in
order for the entire vehicle to work. Chakras are like this. If you have
too much energy in your base chakra then you must focus on the other
six. Each chakra must have the same energy/size and direction of spin.
Try this 1. Find a crystal to call your own, use it as a tool. Use the
crystal as a pendulum, on a string or fine thread. Lie down and hold the
crystal above your crown chakra. The rotation of the pendulum will show
you the direction of the chakra and the intensity of it's energy flow by
the diameter of the orbit. Move down to the next one and compare
direction and intensity. Do this for all of your chakra centers, one by
one. This process will give you a visual picture of how your systems are
working. From this information you can focus on problem areas during
meditation- to be conscious of what the problem is is a good place to
start.
The ideal is to have the seven chakras moving in the same direction at
relatively the same intensity.
Namaste and Joy
Grrrl Jonah
P.S. It is known that promiscuous sex should be avoided at times like
these as it will make you sicker.
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:29:55
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vomiting
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Hello Mike,
As I have been on holidays I am just catching up. When I "first"
started feeling intense kundalini I lost a dangeous amount of wieght
via. vomiting, couldn't imagining eating and tried to avoid the entire
ordeal. I do not think the urge to vomit is uncommon, mind you it is not
great either. I feel that it was my way of life and poor diet preventing
any positive effects of kundalini. My body reacted by trying to detoxify
itself constantly.
During the first few years I under went biophysical changes. My
physical structure altered to accomadate the force of the energy. For
example, my body fat dropped and changed to muscle, my motabilism
increased impressively until I was again eating like a growing teenager.
Adress your diet and possibly look at your life style, for when the
Kundalini is awake I must be very true to myself and pay attention to
what and who I do with the energy.
Namaste and Toys
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:47:24
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Off subject
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Hi Folks,
Due to some major computer problems I have lost all my email addresses.
I've changed servers to accommodate the 56K x2 modem, so I have been off
line for quite awhile. For those with whom I communicate on a regular base,
please do not think I've ignored you.
Thanks K list, this is the only way I have of re-establishing contact with
those whom do not post regularly.
love 'n light dor
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 20:09:32
From: jacinthaATnospamjuno.com (Danielle R Dumont) (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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Hello list friends
This is not a problem but rather a question. 99 % of the time that I am
reading something and I have background noise on (TV or Radio) I hear the
exact word that I happen to be reading at that exact moment in time.
I read this list faithfully and am trying to develop my K as well as my
spirituality. This list is very insightful and helpful.
I do have a question - I have a 6 year old daughter and wonder how to
tell her about K, how to get her started if she desires to, and is she
too young?
I know when the student is ready the teacher will appear - I have put in
my request :)
MOVIES - anyone thought about NELL?
Love & LIght
Jacintha
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:21:26
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: videography help
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Hi Tia,
To this list of movies to see you must add "Antonia's Line" (fabulous
Dutch film), "Like Water for Chocolate" (spanish w. subtitles), "Tank
Girl" (Hollywood action film) or an excelent Japanese animation series
called "Ion Flux". The name is pronounced Ee-0n Flux, and I am not
positive about the spelling. All of these pictures are Grrrl positive
and exelent for the head space in fairly modern context. Beware that
each of the female characters represented are indeed human (or slightly
improved to mutant status) and face thier trials as individuals.
"Antonia's Line" is the most "pure" of essence
"Like Water for Chocolate" is a steamy trial for romantics
"Tank Girl" is funny futuristic hyper-warrior chic (a little bloody
though)
"Ion Flux" an anarchistic mutant erotica babe who takes no prisoners
Hope you like them, they may be a bit harder to find but they are
certainly all out on vidio. I love these films.
Namaste and Joy
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 21:13:01
From: Candy Griffin <cgriffiATnospamptinet.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Please is there anyone out there who had a spontaneous, lengthy, and
non-drug induced kundalini experience??? I spent ten years building up to
the point where the energy cleared my crown. From the study I have done
since, I had a complete and very classic experience. The few people I have
met who have had "kundalini" experiences were all related to drugs. Mine
was not. It was a deeply mystical experience, done with much prayer, and
difficulty, and psyiological as well as mental and physical changes. It
was not easy and at times I thought I was losing my sanity. I would love
to find others who have gone through the complete experience up to and
including the "well what happens next phase"??? I have many questions and
no learned "spiritual master" to turn to. Even the best reading material I
can find is pretty bleak when it comes to answers to the "what now" phase
of unfolding.... Please.... serious responses only..... Your input is very
much appreciated. Thank you Can!
!
!
dise...
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 21:12:45
From: "Sergio Lucio Maria" <sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Work with love
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___Galeria to Be, it Shines and Mar___
sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br
____Sergio Lúcio Maria______
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2979 /
Hi,
I believe that if being about mind should concentrate inside of us.
Ways will always exist of as to improve the life out, but doesn't advance
to complain... the mind is our worst enemy.
The mind screams and it clamors, it is upseted, it disturbs our
concentration. They are the egos of the mind.
For my reason my master it continues tends reason in affirming that:
Eliminating the ego just brings to an agreement the freedom.
We could give millions of revenues to win money, for we regulate our
physicist, to put on weight or to lose weight. But nothing of that brings
the true happiness. While be identified with external things we will never
purify the soul. It is important we also feed the soul, with good music and
arts done of a pure intention, without occult perversions, because these
can feed the selfishness.
Music new acts it has been good with the therapy work, but this a little
far away from the current modern life, full of foolish vanities and ego.
The people should work the soul reading a good book, non need to be exactly
occult, but that has at least some educational value. Today it is learned
how to live with violence, it should not be like this, I would say that new
acts it is a revolution against the terrible human condition.
Blessings,
Sérgio
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 21:23:18
From: David Tompkins <gurudaveATnospamsoback.kornet.nm.kr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: meditation
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>
> It seems that everytime I start a month long period or so of
> heavier meditating(zazen/insight) everyday, that I become more
> unfriendly, internally confused and directionless. Could this be a
> symptom of the ego fighting back? Now I feel more guilty of the less
> virtuous karma I've been generating in the process to actually
> trying to better myself. Has anyone experienced the same ordeal?
>
> thanks,
> joe\
Hello:
What do you mean specifically by heavier meditating?
Everyday I do a practise for 60-80 minutes. One weekend I went with some
other people on a retreat and instead of doing one session a day we did
four, as well as long periods of just sitting. I found I became very
irritable and sore. I was told by the instructor once that if one sits for
long periods of time, toxins build up in the system. That is until energy
moves freely through the body.
Guilt is wasted energy though. Be free and accepting of what there was.
Peace,
The Ox.
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:08:43
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: what is the point of the story?
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Kindly Regarding Lobster,
To ask you, what is the point of the story?
O.K. What time is it? the people asked.
Was it nessesary for them to know the time? There were clocks on every
wall. Ah! but each clock/watch was set for a specific time zone.
Did they question each other about time in order to have something to
speak about?
Was there a certainty in knowing that each person would always have a
time?
Perhaps it was a means of relating by comparison?
Alas! These questions have created more questions. Meanwhile, time had
always existed. The meaning of time for the people became a mathmatical
equation of same and different.
All at once the lines of time dissolved and in it's place a awareness
of One another grew. Sharing each other became a new past time and the
question of time was no longer needed.
good trying,
Namaste and Joy
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:08:59
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Martyr
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To imagine what one would like to be requires a collection of admirable
qualities in order to create the whole.
If what exists/is available for example is controled by a repressor, the
possible examples of qualities to collect are limited.
To see exceptional quality in another opens two facets, one is to
aspire to attaining a specific quality as part of the self, the other is
to excuse oneself on the grounds of impossibility (of attainment).
Goddess is all qualities, even those that may upset the repressor.
Goddess is internal.
Those that oppose the repressor, in what ever form that it exists, have
been executed in the past.
Most wars begin with a martyr. War is not good. Martyrs are not good
because an example has been eliminated.
Many repressors rule the world with nothing. Simply by not allowing
success (access.)
Define success.
Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:08:23
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Dream
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Greetings All,
I had this dream Friday night and it seems relavant to the drama of
life,...
DREAM
I am wearing a red dress. The dress is long, of the shoulder, slit
high in the front, a very chesty number.
I am going through some form of a Euro-city, through alleys and cobble
stone, down long deserted spaces between white buildings.
Friends are there and with them I stop briefly to talk.
I am in a drama of sorts, this involves the costume of my dress. I am
required to return to the "make-up room" between quickly exiting and
entering each place. Proressively my make-up is becoming more and more
insane looking (I giggle at this last occurance).
Finally there is a chase scene. I out run the person(s) and stand
behind a cornerstone of an old building.
Panting, out of breath but exhilerated by my success I throw my dress
up and smile for the camera.
Any Ideas?
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:11:25
From: awp <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: the masses
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Hi M again,
If Kundalini is occuring due to natural evolution then people will come
about this course all on thier own. Spiriual role models are difficult
to find because they are not celebrated by the consumer culture in whch
we live. If spiritual leaders are not interested in materialism (they
may be quite critical of such shallow consumption and the allarming
rates and direction of life force) they may be against the very cause
that could present them wider means of communication, that of media and
fame.
Obscurity and incryption are excelent for the purpose of seeing one's
self in a message or text as opposed to the dogmatism of predetermined
images and repressive religious structures.
How can one compare themselves to a myth?
Namaste and Joy
Grrrl Jonah
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:11:44
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Serge King-Hawaiian Huna
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Dear Ruth:
Thanks for the lengthy Hawaiian Huna excerpts. My hypnotherapy work
with releasing cellular memory, etc. confirms what I read. When a client
is releasing while
under, when the past negative events are being re-experienced the
negative energy flows
through the body, and with it the negative emotions come up. If you
remember the last time you became very emotional and remember how your
head felt like filled up with all that negative energy that flowed up
out of the body you will know this is an energetic as well as an
emotional occurrence. When I say the energy/emotions come up I mean that
they flow up out of the body/subconscious mind into the head/conscious
mind.
This is a natural occurrence as IT is being released out the top of the
head.
I worked with one lady who had multiple personalities who had about a
dozen people who abused her daily for many years. In the releasing
process she released hundreds of events and eventually the subconscious
mind stopped communicating altogether. This happens in some sessions
because the subconscious mind will not let you release too much in a
given session. If too much were released the person would go insane;
which does happen on rare occasions to meditators who inadvertently pull
up too much stuff from the subconscious. I believe their connection to
the collective subconscious mind spoken of by Edgar Cayce, available in
the dream world while asleep comes on permanently to the point where
they are dreaming while awake; sort of like when we're lucid (awake)
while dreaming in lucid dreams (only the reverse).
Sincerely;
Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:45:02
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamMagicCity.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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I'm dismayed at some postings re: Princess Diana. The people who mourn
Diana's loss aren't considering whether she was a role model or a willful
woman. They are experiencing the pain of death.
Yes, I know, death is an illusion. Our spirits can never die. But the human
being possessing that divine spark called Diana is no more. And the world
grieves its loss. It seems tragic for her but mostly for US! Those who
grieve her loved her. Yes, because she represented a fairy tale. But even
when she fell, they still loved her. And when she showed her humanity by
reaching out to the less fortunate, the world saw her greatness.
Continually, there is a life-death-life cycle. So I take solace knowing
that new life will grow from the ashes of her death. We may never
completely understand what this new life is.
I consider Diana a role model of what it means to use celebrity in a manner
that helps humankind. What's wrong with role models? I find it ridiculous
to say that humans can't be role models to other humans. Jesus even said
that anyone of us could do what he did. We are all cut from the same
divinity. If I can learn from someone else, then what's the problem? I
would hope others would learn from me in other areas.
I also think the reference to the more evolved spirits not needing role
models is insulting. How can we ever judge who is more evolved? This sounds
like us vs. them thinking. We all have are stuff and that's why we're
living as human beings. If anyone of us had it all together we would be
Jesus or Budah or Krishna. I don't know about you all, but I haven't seen
anyone like that in my neighborhood!
Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.
Namaste,
Nancy
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 03:28:38 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Rick Puravs <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Message about Gurumayi
Message-ID: <340A6EA6.5EFEATnospambridge.net>
Hi Rick!
I don't know how long ago you pasted your inquiri about Gurumayi, but I
just read it. Yes Gurumayi gives Sharkipat, you can go to one of her
intensives at the Ashram in Soutb Fallsberg, it is wonderful.
Here is the address of their site:
http://www.channel1.com/siddhayoga/index.html
Hope to be of help,
In service of the (((light)))
Lissette
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