1997/08/24 05:39
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #410
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 410
Today's Topics: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
US Unhappy Marriage triggers Kundalini
Re: heart surgery Re: Enlightment
Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment Cure for Cancer
Re: Cure for Cancer Re: Unhappy Marriage triggers Kundalini
Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment Re: FW: ionizer question
what you KNOW Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 13:21:00 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
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Angelique...
I've noticed of late that your postings have been full of wisdom and a wonderful way of getting your points across for understanding - and I do
so appreciate your postings! It is obvious that *something* is occuring in your world and that your K is on the rise, if I may suppose this.
I cannot answer your questions you had for the list, but I can offer you
what happened in my world when my K was on the loose. These are some of the *revelations* (LOL now) that came to me at different times.....
1. I was Jesus Christ himself (of course in the female reincarnation)
2. I was THE Holy Spirit. 3. I was the MOST intelligent person in the world (really LOL now on
that one) 4. I was the ONLY one here - everyone else in the world was just a
projection of my thoughts to help me work through some things, and they didn't really exist.
5. Everyone in the world was ME, although in different forms.
During the #5, I was also filled with a sort of grace, totally peaceful and could look at the world and those in it with awe, wonder and great
kindness. Kindness because, why would I want to do anything to hurt myself?
And this posting is not to say that you are not who you say you are. But
to say that there is only one of us here, and we are all part of the whole and all part of each other. When we learn the truth about us, we
sometimes think that we are this person or that person, but the fact is, that we ARE everyone! Very hard to explain and I don't feel I am getting
my point across that I want to get across (that blows the most intelligent theory!)..... and of course, not even being sure on this, I
could be in error here also. Take it for what it's worth.
When in a peaceful, grace state, nothing really matters, so as I speak from that state of mind, while not being in it, the bottom line is....
nothing really matters.
Lots of love to you, xxxtg
"The very purpose of existence is to reconcile the glowing opinion we
have of ourselves with the appalling things that other people think about us."
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second >oldest>soul, next to God?
> Is Angelique Serpent one of the constantly reborn Trainers? Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:14:57 +0100
From: Gloria Greco To: "Gordon J. Bakken (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )"
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
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Gordon J. Bakken (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: >
> > Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second oldest > soul, next to God?
> > I don't claim to be wise enough to know that, but I do claim to be wise
> enough to recognize that your wisdom came from somewhere.
God lives within all and works through all...even those caught in the
illusion of self. Gloria Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:39:44 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" To: , "tg xxx"
Cc: Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
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Ok....i posed Angelique's questions to myself and woke up this morning with these 2
messages in my mental mailbox...
Yes....Angelique you are the 2nd oldest person person in the Universe....however so
are we all....the difference is that you are more in tune with this aspect of Goddess at
this time....the 2nd message was to recommend to you to read "The Diamond Sutra"
....the Shambhala Edition would be good. Can't say for sure why you should read it....
pulling it off my shelf i see i read it in July,1992.....opening it up (just now) i do come
across this which seems interesting....
25 The Illusion of Ego (this is missing the long vowel marks)
Subhuti, what do you think? Let no one say the Tathagata cherishes the idea " I must liberate all beings." Allow no such thought, Subhuti. Wherefore?
Because in reality there are no living beings to be liberated by the Tathagata. If
there were living beings for the Tathagata to liberate, he would partake in the idea of
selfhood, personality, ego entity, and seperate individuality.
Subhuti, though the common people accept egoity as real, the Tathagata declares
that ego is not different from nonego. Subhuti, those whom the Tathagata referred to
as "common people" are not really common people; such is merely a name. ---------------------------
I wish to also thank you for your "fish story" Angelique, it was one of
several catalysts that put me through some rather heavy shit at the end of June/start of July.
I think tg xxx is absolutely correct about #5 in her list (5. Everyone in
the world was ME, although in different forms.)......and as for #2, i think the Kundalini and the Holy
Spirit are the same thing.
My Kundalini was awakened 6 days ago (August 17th) so i have not yet had much
experience with this.....but this is what i was getting so i'm passing it on.
May Goddess Bless and Guide You All,
Rick
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:46:55 -0400 From: David Bozzi
To: Kundalini Subject: US
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tg xxx wrote:
> the fact is, > that we ARE everyone! Very hard to explain and I don't feel I am getting
> my point across that I want to get across (that blows the most > intelligent theory!)..... and of course, not even being sure on this, I
> could be in error here also.
You are right.
Your point is loud and clear.
I saw what you saw also.
We were all there.
And everyone knew it.
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:19:50 From: BrighidessATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Unhappy Marriage triggers Kundalini
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It's been wonderful to read everyone's experience and the friendliness of the
group is very comforting, and that's what is so much needed during times of spiritual crisis.
My kundalini experience did not start off as pleasant at all! I had all the
symptoms of just plain losing my mind. I went to the doctor, the gynecologist, a therapist, all had there own version of anxiety to nervous
breakdown, which I truly felt I was not having but couldn't explain it otherwise.
I was familiar with different religous paths and had been meditating before I was married and had friends who were doing tarot and astrology and different
pagan rituals in groups or alone. I didn't disbelieve, it just wasn't for me and I didn't pay much attention to it. But the anxiety was getting out of
hand and I would cry or want to just kick things, and the sudden fevers, among various aches and pains, was just wearing me out and I started looking
in other directions. I borrowed some Ram Dass books which led to other titles and "kundalini" kept coming up with everything I read. Synchronicity
was everywhere. New job offer, new friends, new interests, and I wanted to do it, but was holding myself back like I had been for years with thinking
about "the marriage". My husband was fed up with me not being "me", my troubles were a source of irritation and anger and "It was all in my mind"
and that really led me to look very seriously at something that I had known for the last year of the marriage. I should be out of this marriage right
now. But I kept putting if off. And the more I thought about it, the more I
realized I had been putting it off from the very first year of marriage. And the more I started looking at the "me" in our marriage instead of the "us" in
the marriage I realized it was nothing more than a logical step in his make-up. We hadn't even really been friends, but I felt very in love and
getting married was the thing to do. And when I did finally ask for a divorce, the first thing he said is "what will my parents say? all the money
that's been spent on: and then he started listing the wedding, the rings, the house, the cars, all the things his parents and their friends had given us
and how could I think about divorce after all everybody had done for me? This is not a man I was ever going to have children with and the more the
facts came to me, heartbreaking facts because I did love him very much, the more my body changed from the hissing, writhing snake tearing up my insides
into a gentle wave of extremely deep meditation, a peace I hadn't experienced ever, and I knew that I would rather be alone the rest of my life than to
have "the marriage". The divorce was simple only in that I wasn't taking anything. I didn't care
about any of it anyway, never did, but the hard part was the horrible dreams and return of the physical symptoms when I started seeing him for what he
really was and it was appalling that I had been living the way I was. So the kundalini energy literally kicked me in the ass to see how bad things
were and when I got them under control they turned into a helpful pathway to deeper meaning and clearer understandings. And when I was still blocking out
that my husband maybe wasn't "all that bad" the first month or so of living on my own and the doubt set in and paralyzed me with "oh my god, what have I
done?", the symptoms returned full force until I really got the message that I needed out and I was to stay out!
It was very frightening following advice coming from a distant place everyone was calling crazy, and that first month maybe I really *was* crazy.
But sometimes that's just what it takes to tell you something is very wrong. I feel blessed that the kundalini energy was also there to tell how some
things were very right, and soothed me with wonderful deep trances that lead to such revelations. And now I look for the warning signs sooner and keep to
my prayers and meditations on a more peaceful and happy path and can't imagine how I had ever ever ever ever lived the way I did.
Thank you for letting me share and I offer my help if you need it.
Love and Light to you all Bridgette
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:51:52 From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent )
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: heart surgery
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Maceo I have to agree with Gloria, just know that what will be will be!
Kind of strange but, what isn't these days? Was sitting and speaking with one of my brothers Thursday of last week. He told me of his physical
ailments and it sounded suspicious to me. Urged him to see a medical doctor within fourty eight hours.
You guessed it, had a heart ailment which they operated on within twenty four hours of our discussion. In and out of the hospital within fourty eight
hours. Brother informs me that his physician told him that if he would have had an attack it would have killed him.
Heart surgery is a lot less complicated today than it was even five years ago. Odds are that anyone who has it today will make a full recovery. Hard
part is to get over the natural fear of being opened up per someones knife. Again, just know that what will be will be and reduce the anxity and fear
factors. LLLLSS
TPp4t Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:52:24
From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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ROFLMAO great belly laugh, makin my eyes water THANKS TPp4t
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:49:52 -0500 (CDT) From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment Message-Id:
I have no idea whether you are the 2nd oldest soul.
Are you a Trainer, Goddess, Something Else? Without a doubt.
Do I trust you? Yes.
Love, Holly
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:10:41 -1000 From: Ruth Trimble
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Cure for Cancer
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Just a note for the health conscious...
I hope this note makes it Angelique as nothing seems to be getting through. I also wanted to note that you may be part of the 2nd oldest
soul in the universe...as are all of us at some point...and this is reason to celebrate indeed...but why would you be here if you were? Further, if
you ever read Ram Dass' you might remember he visited his brother in the psych-ward who was unable to leave because he claimed "I am God." What
made him get locked up was not that this was not true.. but that he did not realise that EVERYONE is God also. The line between sanity and
insanity then could be said to be the willingness to acknowledge the Self in all. Just a thought... Ruth
***** FORWARDED to me...
reply to
I have been reading a fantastic book called, CURE FOR ALL DISEASES by Dr. Hulda Clark that is probably the best self help book of the
century. She has also developed what she calls a zapper, that kills all parasites in the body. I bought one and feel quite different after
using it. Much more energy! The following is from her book, CURE FOR ALL CANCERS, which can be read free on the internet at the following
website. Jesus said the body is the temple of God, and we need to take care of our temples!
Sue
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.cris.com/~healthy/cfac/cancerbk.htm
For many years we have all believed that cancer is different from other diseases. We believed that cancer behaves like a fire, in that you can't
stop it once it has started. Therefore, you have to cut it out or radiate it to death or chemically destroy every cancerous cell in the
body since it can never become normal again. NOTHING COULD BE MORE WRONG! And we have believed that cancers of different types such as
leukemia or breast cancer have different causes. Wrong again!
In this book you will see that all cancers are alike. They are all caused by a parasite. A single parasite! It is the human intestinal
fluke. And if you kill this parasite, the cancer stops immediately. The tissue becomes normal again. In order to get cancer, you must have this
parasite.
How can the human intestinal fluke cause cancer? This parasite typically lives in the intestine where it might do little harm, causing only
colitis, Crohn's disease or irritable bowel syndrome, or perhaps nothing at all. But if it invades a different organ, like the uterus or kidneys
or liver, it does a great deal of harm. If it establishes itself in the liver, it causes cancer! It only establishes itself in the liver in some
people. These people have propyl alcohol in their bodies. All cancer patients (100%) have both propyl alcohol and the intestinal fluke in
their livers. The solvent propyl alcohol is responsible for letting the fluke establish itself in the liver. In order to get cancer, you must
have both the parasite and propyl alcohol in your body.
Removal of isopropyl alcohol, copper and mycotoxins from the patient's
lifestyle and destruction of all fluke stages as well as elimination of undercooked meats and dairy products in the diet results in quick
recovery, generally less than one week, from cancers of all kinds. Cancer could be eradicated in a very short time by clearing our food
animals and household pets of fluke parasites and by monitoring all food and feed for solvents. Stopping consumption of mycotoxins and ceasing
use of copper water pipes must also be done. (All soft drinks contain solvents - there are lists of them in the book - Sue)
http://www.cris.com/~healthy/ Home page webiste for other Hulda
Clark information and zapper.
********
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:36:56 -0400 From: David Bozzi
To: Kundalini Subject: Re: Cure for Cancer
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> http://www.cris.com/~healthy/cfac/cancerbk.htm
> In this book you will see that all cancers are alike. They are all > caused by a parasite. A single parasite! It is the human intestinal
> fluke. And if you kill this parasite, the cancer stops immediately. The > tissue becomes normal again. In order to get cancer, you must have this
Cancer is the result a break down in the immune system.
Your immune system promptly identifies and kills cancer cells
every day.
There are many causes that lead to the break down
of the immune system.
Ultra violet light, radiation, chemicals and so on.
To say all cancer is the result of a single parasite is absurd.
I will acknowledge the possibility of a parasitical infection
that compromises the immune system's ability to function properly.
But let's not throw out our common sense and extend that to being the only
possible cause.
The fact is 90% of all cancer is preventable through exercise and
diet.
Toss in a little peace of mind and you get that number up even higher.
Eat your antioxidants, stay out of the sun, exercise, clean the planet,
spread some love
and cancer is a thing of the past. Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 20:20:48 -0400
From: David Bozzi To: Kundalini
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Bridgette,
Your story resonates for me. My perspective is that I used
relationships as a shield to avoid the infinite depth of my
essence. The longer I avoided myself by focusing on another person
the more volatility was due when the dam eventually broke.
It turned out after an engagement gone bad, my last attempt
at hiding from myself unleashed a hellish dark night phase.
Years of neglected internal issues bursting at the seams exploding
out all at once.
I believe most relationships are unconscious relationships designed
to avert rather then to find. But once one realizes this, one operates
from a position of power, not fear.
The beauty that we deny ourselves and attempt to seek from an
external source is a futile quest.
When we come to our divinity we are in a position to give.
We know that we are whole/holy.
Peace and blessings to you
by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> So the kundalini energy literally kicked me in the ass to see how bad things
> were and when I got them under control they turned into a helpful pathway to > deeper meaning and clearer understandings. And when I was still blocking out
> that my husband maybe wasn't "all that bad" the first month or so of living > on my own and the doubt set in and paralyzed me with "oh my god, what have I
> done?", the symptoms returned full force until I really got the message that > I needed out and I was to stay out!
> It was very frightening following advice coming from a distant place everyone > was calling crazy, and that first month maybe I really *was* crazy.
> But sometimes that's just what it takes to tell you something is very wrong. > I feel blessed that the kundalini energy was also there to tell how some
> things were very right, and soothed me with wonderful deep trances that lead > to such revelations. And now I look for the warning signs sooner and keep to
> my prayers and meditations on a more peaceful and happy path and can't > imagine how I had ever ever ever ever lived the way I did.
> > Thank you for letting me share and I offer my help if you need it.
> Love and Light to you all > Bridgette
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 01:58:09 -0400 (EDT) From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
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In a message dated 97-08-22 19:34:09 EDT, you write:
< Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second oldest soul, next to God?>>
This may be a dumb question, but how can a soul have an age? As I work on patching together a spiritual crazy quilt with bits and pieces from the
endless sources wisdom, a common thread throughout all of the spiritual and religious teachings is that the soul is timeless, ageless.
<Is Angelique Serpent one of the constantly reborn Trainers? >>
What color(s) is your aura?
Peg
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 02:10:11 -0400 (EDT) From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: FW: ionizer question
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In a message dated 97-08-22 23:41:20 EDT, you write:
< I love the 22 in your address too. It is my most favorite number. >>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 08:42:00 -0700 From: E Jason
To: genius-LATnospamnewciv.org, insight , tariqasATnospamworld.std.com, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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FANTASY AND REALITY
Every person is respected and of value. Each person has
potential and worth. However on the spiritual path we must develop
discrimination and wisdom. A person who shows and displays some ability and is also delusional and
undergoing transitional stages can be potentially damaging towards other peoples progress. It is up to both
parties to develop the ability to differentiate between genuine spirituality and spurious ego fantasies.
People will follow and respect people with limited realisation or who are prone to fantasy and the result
can be anything from dependence to group psychosis. For this reason wisdom has always tried to make people
aware and independent. It has supported their genuine efforts, ignored their ramblings and ego and actively
countered their limiting fantasies. To say everything is part of the One is true but we do
not advocate or support anything and everything. It is very important for people to develop their powers of
rational and sane thought as well as the intuitive and other capabilities.
People who support each others delusions can be seen everywhere in the New age Circus. I'll support your
delusions if you support mine. This is the game playing of children. It is amusing to play but is not the Way of
Wisdom. Wisdom plays a harder game and yet still swims in the Ocean. When a child says something wise we listen and
gain from this, when the child says, "I am Superman or Wonder Woman", we smile. People who need or claim status,
who talk about their "spiritual" experiences and abilities, may eventually realise the futility of such
actions. As adults and if we are attempting to travel the path of
Shakti, Wisdom, Love etc. we must similarly learn to be open to wisdom and closed to nonsense. To point out
others fantasies in this best way open to us is a test of our own compassion. The inclination is to get personal
satisfaction or stimulation from this process. Therefore such actions are a learning process for all concerned.
A would-be student went to a Guru and started a long outburst on her experiences. The Master interrupted as
she had more important things to attend to, "We do not care where you have been or whose company you have kept,
tell us what you KNOW and we will tell you what you need."
When people display wisdom, they will always be questioned as to their motives. This is why the primary
and over riding motive of wisdom is to create, develop and nurture this in others. A society of Gnostics, moves
forward in Unity, Wisdom and Love.
in Unity, Wisdom and Love
Lobster
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