1997/08/19 02:12
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #402
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 402
Today's Topics:
Re: Teachers
A question and a reference.
Re: A question and a reference.
Re: Teachers
brahmacarya and healing
just checking
Re: just checking
Vomiting
white powder of gold
Re: Vomiting
Re: brahmacarya and healing
Re: brahmacarya and healing
Re: Teachers
Re: white powder of gold
colloidal gold and silver
Re: new web page (slightly off subject)
Thank you everyone
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:04:12 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Teachers
Message-ID: <33F8727C.1142ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
ori^ wrote:
> When is it appropriate to walk the path learning from someone else?
> When is it appropriate to follow one's own path... and develop one's
> own work?
When a child speaks wisdom, the child is your teacher
When the teacher wants nothing from you
you must offer everything
Genuine teachers are not an inspiration but a perspiration
they make you sweat
make you work at finding your own salvation
You can only be your own teacher when you are able to travel
where you do not wish to go
We all need a Teacher
otherwise we become lazy and complacent
Even those of great realisation have teachers
but then they have learnt not to question
but to find answers . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:38:36 -0400
From: "L. D. McClanahan, Ph.D." <ldmcclATnospameurekanet.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: nanuATnospamturbonet.com
Subject: A question and a reference.
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Someone referred to the book by Gene Kieffer, Kundalini Catechism. I
tried to order it but it could not be found. Does someone know the date
of publication and the publisher?
The book, Infinite Mind: Science of the Human Vibrations of
Consciousness, by Valerie V. Hunt is brilliant. She places different
altered states of consciousness along a continum of vibrations which we
open up by meditation and other means. Her theory of the Mind-Field
provides a rationale for understanding Kundalini and such phenomena.
L.D.
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:42:16 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: ldmcclATnospameurekanet.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, nanuATnospamturbonet.com
Subject: Re: A question and a reference.
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L. D. McClanahan, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> Someone referred to the book by Gene Kieffer, Kundalini Catechism. I
> tried to order it but it could not be found. Does someone know the date
> of publication and the publisher?
> The book, Infinite Mind: Science of the Human Vibrations of
> Consciousness, by Valerie V. Hunt is brilliant. She places different
> altered states of consciousness along a continum of vibrations which we
> open up by meditation and other means. Her theory of the Mind-Field
> provides a rationale for understanding Kundalini and such phenomena.
> L.D.
I will forward it to Gene, I made the post. It is $9.95, I will have
Gene contact you so that you can buy directly from him. Gloria
He has several others by Gopi Krishna that are very good also.
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:02:59 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
CC: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Teachers
Message-ID: <33F80FC1.5172ATnospamintercomm.com>
Ori wrote
> In the recent month, I have found myself (a statement all inclusive
> in itself!! ;) opening to the idea of returning to school to get
> a 2nd Masters Degree which would allow me to become more fully
> who I am in pursuing my work in the world. It is clear that if
> I wish to seek certain credentials, then I must jump through certain
> hoops and take classes from teachers in a university.
>
> And yet... this is where I find myself questioning the role of a
> teacher in one's life. A teacher can facilitate one's learning of
> knowledge in a field which one is unfamiliar with. But at what
> point does one take the plunge and begin to facilitate one's own
> learning? When does one solicit the guidance of a teacher...
> a fellow wayfinder upon the path, vs. opening directly to the
> information to receive it in a direct way?
>
> This thinking started when I saw Barbara Brennan speak in an
> evening lecture. She has a lot of valuable information that she
> has received, found, discovered, created... and a lot of students
> can learn from the work she has done. But then I started wondering
> why cannot each of us open to receive, find, discover, create equally
> valuable information?
>
> When is it appropriate to walk the path learning from someone else?
> When is it appropriate to follow one's own path... and develop one's
> own work?
>
> Is it as simple as differing personality types?
> or is there something more fundamental...
>
Ori,
It is a matter of being told from within what is right for you. There
are a lot of teachers out there passing along information that is
gathered from books or listening to someone speak. This is not a
teacher. A teacher is one with direct experience that has manifest it in
consciousness, and has gone beyond the teachings because it is real,
here and now. A teacher is also one who works in the spiritual plane and
brings down the teachings from having been with those that are being
taught. In other words, you meet and work with the teacher out of body
first, and then if and when the time is right you may meet in the body.
Now, we may be confusing what you mean by teacher, this is how spirit
works beyond the illusion. It is not what is manifest on the world stage
in terms of those making a business out of teaching.
When spirit took me into teaching I didn't have a choice it just
happened. This is because you don't think about it, it manifests without
doing anything and then you know that God has directed and created
situations that this is naturally connecting with.
Remember what is missing out there is total spontaneous action. When
people teach from materials gathered, or memorized, etc. they are not
teaching they are only passing on information. The educational system is
built on this precept, but spiritual teaching is alive to the moment,
and there is no plan or projection into what is coming through, this is
very rare, but it is what a real teacher is. Can you be that open and
spontaneous without thought, and totally detached from the results, plus
ready to step out there taking the responsbility for what goes out.
To teach means you consciously take on the responsbility of working
with a soul plus it is through working with divine will which uses your
energy to ground with, that the lessons manifest. Very big difference
from the other side. You then are spiritually connected with every soul
that is in this movement, you are not just connected for the hour two or
three that you are with that person, but forever.
Gloria
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:43:19 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com, yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
Subject: brahmacarya and healing
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Ruth Trimble wrote:
>> Hi KList
>> I had always understood that the sexual energy was inextricably linked to
>> the healing ability. In my research regarding the Caduceus (see my article
>> on K. at site below) I found that the symbol of Mercury or Hermes - the
>> Caduceus staff was symbollic of doctors and still is. This symbol
>> indicated that the doctor had become celibate/brahmcharya (or at least did
>> not spill his semen in biological function) and he had funnelled his
>> sexual ojas (or light seeds) to healing others. Thus he would have a halo
>> around the head, and just his presence in the sick room might be
>> sufficient to heal the sick.
<snip>
>> So I believe that like the story of the genie in the bottle who brings the
>> gift of healing... Kundalini is the genie that brings the ability to heal
>> and cure other people... it is not about psychic abilities as we have
>> discussed... although I can attest, that comes with it.. it is not about
>> being an elite of geniuses either.. it is about becoming a healer like the
>> Christ.. to others. That's my two cents... Ruth
>> ******
Mike Beaver responded:
> I believe you've been reading too many tantric books. I discussed this
>topic very briefly with the new heir apparent to my Guru the other day;
>a man who most likely is celibate; and who probably has a great deal of
>that healing energy built up also. I believe that there is some TRUTH to
>what you say; don't get me wrong. At the same time I believe the aspect
>of storing up one's healing ability is far overblown. One of the things
>the guru said (remember this is an Indian from India who has spent his
>life not only reading the as yet untranslated tantric texts; but who has
>lived much of his years among the practicing tantrics there) is that
>most, if not all, of the tantric books written hear are completely
>wrong.
Kurt replies:
I'm afraid that the information content in this paragraph is pretty
difficult to assess. If you'd really like us to have any appreciation of
this teacher why don't you state who he is and what (untranslated!) tantric
texts he is citing. I'm not supposing that this individual is not a great
teacher. I'm just saying that his greatness is difficult to assess from
your email.
Mr. Beaver continues:
> He said that only a very small portion of the tantrics focus on
>sex. And that even those only focus on it for a small portion of their
>practices. As much as we think we know things here in America, we rarely
>meet those who have direct knowledge that is passed directly to them. I
>could go into a number of the other false stereotypes we here in the
>West have about eastern things but I wouldn't want to bore everyone. If
>you've spent years in India you'll know I'm correct.
Kurt replies:
I don't know how this segment relates to Ruth's message at all. Ruth speaks
of the virtues of celibacy and you begin to discuss how tantra is not about
focusing on sex. These are not at all contradictory (as Ruth later pointed
out) - although making any broad statement about what tantra is - or is not
- is only asking for confusion.
Mr. Beaver continues:
> I don't believe at all that one's level of healing energy, kundalini,
>etc. is predicated on celibacy. Those who meditate the most, and go the
>deepest into Samadhi are the ones who can generate the most Samadhi
>power, ki, chi, kundalini, sexual energy, life force, or whatever you
>wish to call it.
> If you relax enough you'll notice the pain in parts of your body from
>the attempt of the increased energy trying to flow through constricted
>muscles; as in your neck from the tension rising up from the shoulders;
>which is where most people hold their tension. The stomach is close
>behind.
> So, in short, I believe relaxation, and proper mind state are more
>important than celibacy for the flow of healing energy.
I believe that you are emphasizing one factor and Ruth is emphasizing
another. I believe that the Chinese Qi Gong systems describe it most
clearly. jing (bindu) (reproductive material) transforms into => qi (prana)
transforms into => shen (spirit, consciousness). I believe that qi/prana IS
the medium for healing energy. If we agree with the Qi Gong system then
celibacy means that qi/prana CAN increase but a transformation of the
substance must occur. Simply practicing celibacy does not ensure this. On
the other hand dissipating jing/bindu undermines one of the sources of the
qi/prana == healing energy. Some teachers have such a great abundance of
qi/prana that this does not have an impact on their healing ability but
these are few.
(Further reflections of Mr. Beaver deleted).
Kurt summarizes:
So I think the key to the middle road between a dogmatic insistence on
celibacy and dogmatic discarding of the influence of temperance on
spiritual practice is to understand the mechanics of the transformation of
jing/bindu into qi/prana. I don't claim to have detailed that here - nor do
I claim to fully understand it - but based on what I can see for myself
there is a strong link between jing/bindu and qi/prana. and a strong
relationship between qi/prana and healing.
Mangalam,
Kurt
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: just checking
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Is everyone on vacation or just the Klist server?
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:15:50
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: just checking
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At 12:14 8/18/97 -0700, M wrote:
>Is everyone on vacation or just the Klist server?
My guess is that people are trying to absorb the last rays of
summer weather and are less online, although traditionally
the weekends are not as busy.
I have only received a handful of posts in the last couple
days... and received a couple private responses to my post
about teachers, which I posted Sunday night, so I assume that
the server distributed it properly.
If there are any problems, our Lyst Mystress should return soon
and be able to check on things.
In light,
ori^
******
* ori^ *
* oriATnospameskimo.com *
* http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html *
******
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 13:15:51
From: Michael Dessoff <Mike.DessoffATnospamworldnet.att.net> (by way of ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Vomiting
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Hi,
I was wondering is it common when raising kundalini to have
an urge to vomit. I get this alot.
Mike
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:33:02 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: white powder of gold
Message-ID: <33F8CD9E.7440ATnospambest.com>
I looked up "white powder of gold" on Infoseek and found a lot more
information on David Hudson. He's not disclosing now his original
motive, which was to extract gold amd silver without paying taxes.
While I am witholding trust for the messenger until his motives are
further disclosed, the information in "white powder of gold" (you have
to read ALL of ALL of the documents listed) completely explains
kundalini, if you're wilin to stretch your mind a bit.
I do not believe that we need to ingest Hudson's powder, I believe
that our bodies are also a crucible and that we create the alchemical
transformation within us as well. I've been doing this for several years
without realizing it...
We supply the raw ingredients, such as colloidal silver and colliodal
gold, extracted herbs such as essiac and Prime One (a brand name for a
herbal concentration) and Aloe Vera Gel. (you'll know why *these*
ingredients when you read the documents)
Then we withold food from our system so that the digestive fires can be
used for the alchemical transformation. I find that I don't need much
food any more anyway, I eat out of habit..same with sleep.
I found when I stopped eating much and added c. gold and c. silver
that my body took on a visible glow, a subtle light which is visible
even in daylight.
I would advise this process for only those who can hear the subtle
"sound", an indication that your vibrational rate is the right
frequency. Otherwise, if I have the stories of my Granny correct, you'd
be courting spontaneous combustion. :D
Don't ask me to explain this post unless you've read all of the
documents several times over and still don't see the connection.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:53:26 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: "Michael Dessoff (by way of ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>)" <Mike.DessoffATnospamworldnet.att.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vomiting
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Michael Dessoff (by way of ori^ ) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering is it common when raising kundalini to have
> an urge to vomit. I get this alot.
>
> Mike
It is if your system is making a lot of growth hormone in response to
the energies of kundalini. K tends to "turn back the clock" and give us
the pysiological responses of a younger body. Many young body builders
vomit after a workout because of the extra load of growth hormone
released from the strenous exercise.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:28:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: brahmacarya and healing
Message-ID: <970818202722_-1403702854ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
I wish somebody knew more of these mechanics of transformation of bindu to
prana.There is the notion that upward moving prana is prana,and downward is
known as uprana(spelling?)Since the habits of the aspirant (nice expression)
determines which direction the prana takes,it matters what you do,like going
to discos or a monastaries.The middle path is either a Taoist type (Chia) or
even as an extreme ,celibacy, since the dakini will come eventually. I
better re-lurk since I'm talking about stuff I don't know much about.Have we
heard from Yogi Tom,lately?
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:37:49 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: brahmacarya and healing
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DChern1123ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> I wish somebody knew more of these mechanics of transformation of bindu to
> prana.There is the notion that upward moving prana is prana,and downward is
> known as uprana(spelling?)Since the habits of the aspirant (nice expression)
> determines which direction the prana takes,it matters what you do,like going
> to discos or a monastaries.The middle path is either a Taoist type (Chia) or
> even as an extreme ,celibacy, since the dakini will come eventually. I
> better re-lurk since I'm talking about stuff I don't know much about.Have we
> heard from Yogi Tom,lately?
Yogi Tom is moving to his new place in Glatonbury, I think he is off
line right now.
The information your talking about is best worked with through
detachment. You don't want to feed the intellect with anything it can
sit and think about. The awakening of the kundalini system is movement,
once it is reaching the brain you have one purpose which is to stay
centered, balance and purify the body and stay detached from the over
all experinece. Anything that pulls you into left brain stuff will cause
problems, thinking about prana,uprana just gives the mind something to
creat from.
Kundalini is like a water hose with extreme pressure, if you connect
inside with God's will through grace you are able to adjust the pressure
as it begins to mount, if you think you can do this on your own or that
it is anything to play with your in bad shape.
Gopi Krishna lived 12 years of agony until he realized he was
experiencing kundalini off into the solar side which was causing intense
heat to the point that he thought he would die from it. Those cases of
spontaneous combustion we hear about I'm sure are from this very thing.
Grace carried Krishna through as he was given a powerful experience to
help others. Once he was shown how to make the adjustment to the central
cord instead of either side, he was fine.
I've lived a life with it and really have lived inside grace through out
the awakening, because I know what it is, I strongly recommend this path
rather then thinking and trying out this or that method. By consciously
preparing yourself body and mind for kundalini, you open to divine
guidance which is what makes it flow in rhythmn.
We are in evolution with more people finding themselves directly facing
the release of kundalini. If it goes on one side or the other then there
is a problem. Gloria
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:32:14 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Teachers
Message-ID: <33F921CE.690DATnospammail.snet.net>
ori^ wrote:
> But then I started wondering
> why cannot each of us open to receive, find, discover, create equally
> valuable information?
You already know the answer to your query.
We are always teaching.
We have no choice not to teach.
When one is unconscious one teaches unconsciousness.
When we look with sincerity and discover light we can't help
but extend this. Even if no one is in the room with you.
I say this from the realization that we live in a unified
system that is not limited by time or space.
So the issue is not will I teach, or should I have a teacher.
"Yes" to both.
The issue is what shall I teach?
Am I aware right now this moment?
Teaching and learning is a single inseparable process.
Your,
Student/teacher
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:02:03 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Edward H Gurd <egurdATnospamserver1.netpath.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: white powder of gold
Message-ID: <33F928CB.DABATnospambest.com>
First, colloidal silver and gold are biologically available silver and
gold- our bodies can take them in. They are powerful, and have been
effective against viral and degenerative diseases. They are sold in
health food stores, and there is probably loads of information on them
on the net.
Edward H Gurd wrote:
>
> I did a search on more than one browser and didnn't find much of use that
> I hadn't already read. I do have a couple of questions. How much fasting
> while including c. silver, c. gold, and the iridium/rhodium plant extracts
> do you think one needs to undergo the special processes?
Our path is slower, so a 10-day fast every couple of months with
colloidal gold would achieve results. I have often fasted with my
kundalini, and I do 3 days of fruit juice, 3 days of vegetable juices, 3
days of water, then 1 day of vegetable juice.
>
> You said you don't think david hudson's powder is necessary, but have you
> read the explainations at the monatomic web site explaining the high
> difference between the normal forms of these platinum group materials and
> the "special powder" types? It sounds highly different to me.
Ys, but we are proof that the process already occurs naturally. He has a
shortcut, I believe. If his motives are indeed altruistic I would love
to take the white powder, and give everything I own for it because
nothing material would matter. But when someone has somehing you think
you need, they control you. I am holding forth the belief that we do not
need it to achieve the same goal. If it is available, wonderful...if
not, then no matter.
> I say that I understand, more likely I simply accept the possibilities
> and am eager to do this process, but I certainly want to get it right.
> Also were mentioned some cautions from the esoteric books Red Lion
> and Egyptian Book of the Dead. Have you read these? I found some place
> where I downloaded a zipped copy of the ebod, if you want, I might find
> it for you or send you a zipped coppy.
Mmm, read a lot of that years ago. This is where you find warnings of
spontaneous combustion and flesh dropping from the skull, teeth falling
out ,etc. for page upon page. For the unworthy. Maybe true, maybe to
prevent theft and build up the power of the priesthood.
>
What is true is that there have always been stories of people
transforming (Carlos Castenados), and Sedona is full of stories of field
effects and dimensional gates (ask the locals) which would be consistant
with a community of immortals. I am a skeptic, but I also believe that
there is a nugget of truth in these stories.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:11:29 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: colloidal gold and silver
Message-ID: <33F93911.411DATnospambest.com>
I wasn't truly clear on the dosage of colloidal gold and silver. The
dosage is exactly as indicated on the bottle, extremely small, and taken
for only 10 days no more than twice a year. Extended use (i year) can
cause skin discoloration and liver enzyme abnormalities. These are,
after all, trace minerals.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:25:46
From: Rick Sedona <sedonaATnospamixpres.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: new web page (slightly off subject)
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Greetings!
If I can be of assistance to you feel free to contact me at the following
email addresses.
sedonaATnospamixpres.com
centaurATnospamixpres.com
I have been ivestigating and researching UFO's/Alien Abduction/Govt.
Cover-up and Conspiracy for the last eight years. The last two years have
been spent mostly in the area of Alien Abductions. I have had my own
personal abduction experiences during the ages of 5 through 12 years of age
and I am now thirty-eight. All my experiences were benevolent ones but if
any of the files or information I have collected can help you please let me
know.
Namaste'
Rick Sedona
At 12:52 PM 8/12/97 -0400, You Wrote:
Sorry that this is a bit off subject but I am writing this to this list
because I know there are some of you with an interest in UFOs.
I have just created a web page to act as a repository of stories from UFO
experiencers. (It's my first web page, so it may be a little rough around
the edges.) The purpose of the site is to allow people to tell about their
experiences without fear of ridicule.
Your name and e-mail address are by default NOT printed on the page.
However, should you wish to have your name given just let me know.
Even though our list deals with rather "fringe" subjects (according to
mainstream society), UFO abductees and contactees are sometimes reluctant
to talk about their experiences even in a group like this.
If you are interested, check out:
http://idt.net/~srimpi19/ufo.html
(That's srimpi-and the number nineteen)
I'd appreciate any comments or constructive criticism you have to offer.
Thanks for your time.
In Service to the Light,
Namaste',
Rick
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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:26:31
From: "Enid" <wynATnospamgate.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Thank you everyone
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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
I would like to thank you for all of the wonderful responses and thoughts
regarding "being touched". I think I understand more what is happening to
me because I entertain some of the symptoms you all experienced at your
awakening. I am still in that process. There are other things that have
happened but I should like to discuss that with you another time---I must
go to work at this late hour.
Again, thank you for all of your words.
Enid
As I stand at the crossroads of finding out about me
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