1997/08/14 11:19
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #397
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 397
Today's Topics:
Re: Reincarnation
Re: drive-thru get-quick : the special-K boxtops Hear.
Re: Messengers and reincarnation
Live in teacher/guide
back or front?
Re: Reincarnation
Re: back or front?
Re: question
hormone facts
Hormones (fwd)
De-lurk
preceptions
Dream
Re: Dream
Re: hormone facts
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:15:30
From: "Matt Bell" <mbkbellATnospamaapi.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reincarnation
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> From: dorATnospamhlc.com
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Reincarnation
> Date: 13 August 1997 18:19
>
> Hi,
>
> As to the subject of reincarnation being removed from the orthodox
versions
> of the Old and New Testaments date no further back than the sixth
century.
> The Byzantine Emperor Judtinian called the Fifth Ecumenical Congress of
> Constantinople in 553 A.D. to condem the Platonically inspired writings
of
> Origen.
>
> The Pope was forbidden to attend, and the denunciation of it was flouted.
> Justinian (483-565), a recent convert to the christian religion, with his
> wife, the Empress Theodora (daughter of a bear-feeder in the amphitheatre
in
> Constantinople) decided that in order to keep the church together, and in
> order to keep control of the people, removed reincarnation from the
Bible.
> And in addition, removed the then Pope and 'appointed' another to replace
> him with one who would agree with their views.
>
> The strategy was always to create a condition of organized confusion in
> which every person eventually, by the divide and conquer idea, would
create
> a state of confusion. The teachings of the church was that of
reincarnation,
> and Origin, because of the teachings had fifteen anathemas placed against
> him by Justinian and Theodora.
>
> Essenes: True, Mary was from the Essenes and practiced the same teachings
of
> the early church. Jesus and John the Baptist both were schooled in the
> traditions of the Essenes and believed in reincarnation. Somewhere along
the
> way, the traditional Jewish religion decided the Essenes were more
> christian-like than jewish and therefore put them into that category.
>
> The scrolls found in Nag Hammadi caves, in 1945 - were the works of the
> Essenes, and of the Gnostic teachings. Included in the scrolls they found
> many Gospels and sacred books not found in either the Old or New
Testaments.
>
> For more information on this can be found in 'Gnostic Gospels' by Elaine
> Pagels, ISBN 0-679-72453-2 Vintage Press
>
> I hope this is what you were asking about, if not... delete.
You can of course demonstrate that John and Jesus believed in reincarnation
:) ?????
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:16:02
From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: drive-thru get-quick : the special-K boxtops Hear.
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(^My dear, sweet, AHneedAh Phillips screwdriver:
a>My impression from these folks and from their literature
a> is that they are watering down, diminishing expectations of what
kundalini is.
(^..or, they're unable to remember their own lines of insight..... feebled K.
(^the spine gets old. finding the right kind of youth to get on your nerves
(^(to re-stimulate those circuits) is... unlikely, yet it happens. worth a
try?
a> Really, is it so easy to raise kundalini?
(^no... it's that hard to resurrect it during the Darkness of the soul
periods.
(^K needs new blood. newbe wannahbe jacked in+UP spirits become
(^ the channel for those who've forgotten how to experience themselves.
(^..or have had .."it" slip away ..... out of sheareDOGMAboredom.
((^indeed, M^))
a>< If folks will accept Twinkies "sOld" to them as Wedding Cake--maybe
it's ok.
(^the price may be deceptively low, tho....twinkies have more kick, less
punch .
(^anita.... what if the twinkie was LACED with REAL WEDDING CAKE?!
(^ if children can make cake out of mudpies, why not?
(^I call that "transmutative transINference"...make of this what you will.
(^then again, that's because I'm too grown up. the word's too big.
(^takes longer to say it than for it to happen.
(^but "play" seems to lack focus.... underlying ramifications gets glossed
over.
(^"anthropomorphism", tho spelled correctly, misses the spiritual fetish
link..
(^weathered-B twinkie, glass pink slipped, hiking bootdisc, cinders or ashes,
(^the hearing of " oooh-AH! I wannah be Kundalinied! " tends to rev engines.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(^a story of tired out mystic being tromppled by zealotus appreHentice
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(^
>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 03:50:14
>To: stOREdDreams
>From: see_D_pr0phF1TS <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>
>Subject: ASH WEDN'SDAY"S sweat lodge totem mote.
>
>(^ how to search for Intellectual ARTifice:
>(^randomize where you'd look.
>(^quit putting all the tarot deck back in "order".
>(^shuffle. just like the papers and the thorezined attitudes
>(^ that come from WAITing.... for a change.
>
>((^and.... quit telling the computer programs to be logical.^))
>
=
>>Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:09:55
>>To: timsFullofit
>>From: "sCaRe0W_Jest(y)Ore" <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>
>>Subject: ASH WEDN'SDAY"S CLODHOPPER #a1
>>
>>>< I'll see what foOdder I can provide
>>
>>(^hmmn.. spleck (as in spell_check) ` foOdder `=
>> fodder, foolery, footers, footgear,
>> footmen, footwear, foamier, folders,
>> fondled, fondles, footer, footless,
>> footmark, footrest, footsore,+ footwork.
>>
>>(^that was enough 4(k)now, thanks... a story is formultating..
>>==========
>>
>>(^ I feel I need a podiatrist from all the stepping stones
>>(^ I keep stumbling across and thru. 80)
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>((^**** ah. STOREDryeTALE:
>>((^ASH WEDN'SDAY"S CLODHOPPER ptA#1 streaksaUSEage.
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>(^
>>(^There was a crooked man, who walked for crooked miles..
>>((^.. let's call him Ashley; a retired kingsman's scout.
>>
>>(^After being let go --dismissed--pink slippered
>>(^on a charge of trying to run off with prequeen Ellenoirah,
>>(^Ashley had set up camp in a dung heap;
>>(^ building his house of clayfeet and timberwolves.
>>
>>(^Shin deep in manure, he started
>>(^slapkicking the shit of his journey around,
>>(^ looking for a lost slipped off hiking boot..
>>
>>(^ As he spotted and was about to retrieve his lost ankle bracer ,
>>(^ a bunch of soldiers came stamping along the waterfront;
>>(^straight through his home: sloshing mud.
>>
>>(^A newly enlisted recruit ((let's call Him/er "NewBs"))
>>(^ had liquid soap seeping out of His/er backpack.
>>(^Now, along with the tirading downpour
>>(^ that always comes with reigns for "truth, just is(s),
>>(^ and the AmWayReCAnter 's life,
>>(^ the scrubbing bubbles left foamy crests
>>(^of rootbeer lapping across Ashman's field of vision:
>>(^and the boot off his right foot still sinking in the fertilizer.
>>
>>(^ " HAY, old man! Watch where we're STEPping! ",
>>((^> complained the newbe wannabe.<^))
>>((^*soap still dripping out of Newb's package of trix cereBRal cortex..
>>((^ dirrectly into the feces of Ashley's floorboards.^))
>>
>>(^Newb: >" Can't you just wipe the brown lipstick off your face
>> >" and get back in line?! Don't. USe see?
>> >" 'eWE're on a MISSION!
>>
>>(^Ashley: (*looking around his abode...,
>> (* as soldiers of fortune clammer through..)
>>
>> < "Uh...*heehehh.. you're also IN one..mine.
>>
>>(^Newb: >" WHAT??! What do you mean?!
>> >" This is OUR path! Git out of the WAY!
>>
>>(^Ashley: (still lying on the earthen floor of his retirement home,
>> (Newb's foot on his back, holding him flatfaceted in the
dirt.)
>> <" I was.. just.. looking for my boots.
>> <" they were over tHere, by the fireplace..hEarthSpace.
>> <" see.. this place used to be my home..
>>
>>(^Newb: >"well, it ISn't, anymore! Shove OFF!
>> >" besides, if this were your house.."
>>
>>(^Ashley: <".. home.. I said home.
>>
>>(^Newb: (unhearing) >" ..you sure do keep a MESS of things!
>> >" Why don't you clean UP this place?
>> >" It looks like a PIGs'tie! and...
>>((**holding His/er nose, eyes clenched.)
>>(^Newb: (unsee/no tasting) >" EEeewww. OWeee!.. the smell.. "
>>
>>(^Ashley: <".. now that you mention it,
>> <" this once WAS a farmer's barn, B4..
>>
>>(^Newb: >" What do you got? SHIT fer BRAINS?
>>
>>(^Ashley: <"... maybe..but in any case, I do for floors..
>>
>>(^Newb: >" SHUT UP ! (glarring down an upturned nose at Ash..)
>> >" I wouldn't allow you IN my house,
>> >" let alone let you do MY FLOORS!
>> >" The ` meer ` THOUGHT of it makes me SICK!
>>
>>(^Ashley: <"... maybe..but in any case, I use fertilizer for footpaths.
>>
>>(^Newb: >"you argue and interupt all the time, SEE?!!
>> >"When's the last time you shut upped and LISTened?!!
>>
>>=========
>>((^yuppers.. jest getting started.. will cont. later))
>>=========
>>**((^this goes on for some thyme end treason..
>>(^ houses growing mushroom clouds, seedlings packeting whallups,
>>(^and jackle bean sprouts out of non-linoleumed footpaths:
>>
>>(^some homes are not houses..
>>(^and sum houses do not equate homelife.
>>
>>(^but, the path(s) of life continue to grow and change..
>>(^life,death,gestation periods and mediatorial meditations all.
>>
>>(^swooner nor latterial motifs combine
>>(^ to create the grand chaos of litebreaths, and darkened memories.
>>
>>(^shallow grave gasps can turn into twittery laughter
>>(^ if repeated incessantly...pixies come take your breath awy with...
>>(^.."THEM"..
>>
>>((^..laugh it up, funny bouy.. yer killing me. <--vinny on the mark of Y.
>>
>>(^* jestme thinks reality only SEEMS to destroy (y)Our dreams..
>>(^ actually.. it can be used to CREATE them...
>>
>>((^..inert dreams, baby. <--vinny : X it spotmarks.
>>
>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:31:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Messengers and reincarnation
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At 06:11 PM 8/13/97 -0400, PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Dear M,
>Thank you for the info- I'll look up Origen. I can't imagine the egos who
>sat and voted on whether reincarnation is "true" or not. What fun to think
>about what the Catholic church would be like today had the vote been tipped
>the other way!
>Thanks again,
>Peggy
>
I am fuzzy on the details. There was another post today filled with them
however.
BTW there is a coucil of self-appointed biblical scholars 'voting' on what's
authentic Jesus and what's not - right here in our very own 1997!!! Yikes!
It never ceases. Energizer bunny phenomena. Again, I am short on details.
It was in a recent issue of one of the three news weekly magazines. I just
guffawed and did not give it any mental disk space beyond that...
M
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:28:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: SKidder333ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Live in teacher/guide
Message-ID: <970813212656_-1773079771ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
One day, without knowing anything about kundalini, I knew I HAD SOMETHING
phenominally new and strange and it was never the same and blissful to
boot.....and at this point my effort was to hopefully find a name for it.
How grateful I am to share this blessing of kundalini with you all.
Perhaps the following experiences might have some meaning for the many
newcomers I see on the list. By three months after k blew me wide open, I
was having all the various paranomal experiences in varying intensities and
frequencies. At this time there was no k list and I had spoken to no fellow
traveler. Feeling quite lonely and frequently estranged from my husband and
the rest of society, one evening I did as a good friend and spiritual mentor
advised, and I prayed for a spirit guide or perhaps a real live teacher might
be brought into my life, thank you. The following morning I emerged freshly
bathed from the shower, and it occurred to me that I was a VERY SPECIAL
person, afterall I could see people's entire lives without knowing them, etc.
etc. etc.......As I toweled off my body my self admiration grew as I recalled
all the various mystical, mysterious, wondrous things I now could do.
Suddenly, WHACK and I am clubbed on my back and my breath is forcefully
expelled. Simultaneously someone, something is blowing all the air in the
world INTO my mouth. When it ended and it took but a moment, I realized I
had been on the threshold of some kind of death.
A few days later, once again I'm emerging from the shower and once again the
fanciful thought begins concerning my specialness. This time I grabbed for
some humility and gratitude and was saved a repetition.
Certainly I was given a guide just as soon as I needed one, which happened to
be the very next morning. The old saying "Be careful of what you pray for"
now had new meaning. To the new comers, I suggest marveling at and enjoying
your new experiences....however, caution is advised. I bet there are
countless tales out there about how we get chastised when we abuse shakti or
seek flattery in any form.
I have such a very good time lurking on this list! Love in the Spirit,
Sylvia
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:36:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daforce2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: back or front?
Message-ID: <970813213441_166689839ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
hey everyone, been lurking for a while. but now ive got a question.
ive been bringing the energy down from above to cleanse and activate the
crown
chakra and then on down.recently my heart chakra has opened and ive noticed a
back pain in the same area on my back.the energy in the back feels stronger
and
hurts a little.is that the kundalini coming up? am i bringing shiva down from
above
and shakti is coming up at the same time? wow, as i was typeing this an
intense
heat has come up my spine and stopped at the heart or the solar plexis.could
this
be the k ?maybe a slight release?
well thanks in advance.
terry:)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:53:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: dorATnospamhlc.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reincarnation
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Matt:
You're asking me if I can show you that John and Jesus believed in
reincarnation. What if I told you I was there, would you believe that? I
doubt it!
Since both John and Jesus were from the group known as the Essenes who lived
by the Gnostic traditions and learnings... would you not suppose they would
believe in it as well? The Nag Hammadi scrolls that were interpreted from
Coptic, not by me but by others highly skilled in translations. Bentley
Layton translated some of the texts on the 'Treatise on Resurrection', James
Brashler translated 'The Apocalypse of Peter' all from the material
uncovered in Upper Egypt.
So Matt, may I ask you something? How do you know Jesus lived, or John or
even that the Creator exists? Do you have proof? Show me something tangible,
and not the Bible... Bring your hand forth, show me in the open palm of your
hand, a Creator that I can see with eyes. Can you do this? :D
Someone asked a question, I responded.
Matt Bell asked
A>You can of course demonstrate that John and Jesus believed in reincarnation
>:) ?????
>
>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 23:01:33 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Daforce2ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: back or front?
Message-ID: <33F29F3D.2360ATnospambest.com>
Daforce2ATnospamaol.com wrote:
> back pain in the same area on my back.the energy in the back feels stronger
> and
> hurts a little.is that the kundalini coming up?
I've found that this usually indicates a blockage (emotional or
physical).
1. See if a chiropractic alignment lets the energy flow.
2. Check for energy attatchments in your back.
3. Open the back of the chakra (through visualization) and let any
negative energy flow out, then close the chakra again.
4. Let white light flow down into the chakra and out through the back.
5. Check to se if there are any old emotions about not being loved.
Morgana
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 02:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: question
Message-ID: <970814024218_1284861510ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-08-13 08:12:46 EDT, you write:
<<
Hmm.. absolute answers are absolute:
Goddess loves you unconditionally.
Things always work out for the best.
Our lives are divinely guided...
I AM All. So art thou.
Inside reflects outside reflects inside, as above so below..
more absolute answers.. >>
Angelique, these "absolute answers" you cite illustrate my point precisely.
When you are enlightened, they are a shorthand for your first hand
knowledge. But, until that time, they have little or no meaning. And the
knowledge is not something someone can just tell you. Because you personally
were awakened so early, it may be harder to remember a time when you did not
have the understanding. As one who has been questioning for nearly 50 years
with little or no answers until the big kundalini light switch got turned on,
I can tell you that each of the absolutes you cite meant nothing to me until
I suddenly knew, no matter how many times I heard them. It's like what my
piano teacher calls going from playing the notes to making the music.
Your metaphor of building a house for spiritual growth is wonderful, as was
your earlier circus metaphor. Both are "keepers." As for your booboo with
the misdirected sex post, this is where the rubber hits the road (no pun
intended) and you put the "absolutes" into action. There are no accidents.
Detach. Be thankful. Trust. You know the drill.
Peggy
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:36:55 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hormone facts
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Hi Kundalini Menopause people...
I found this very informative site where you can get real facts about
estrogen and progesterone and the HRT controversy clearly explained.
http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/HormoneHeresy.html
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:38:31 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hormones (fwd)
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An excerpt from the site I just sent:
While the so-called 'experts' on women's health are reassuring women
that there are no, or at least only very minor,
unpleasant side-effects, Dr Lynette J. Dumble, Senior Research Fellow
at the University of Melbourne's Department of
Surgery at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, believes that "the sole basis
of HRT is to create a commercial market that is
highly profitable for the pharmaceutical companies and doctors. The
supposed benefits of HRT are totally unproven." She
believes that HRT not only exacerbates the presenting health problems
but also contributes to the acceleration of the ageing
process of women. It either hastens the onset of other medical
conditions or worsens the existing ones.
This perspective seems to be validated by the recent findings from a
landmark study, published in The New England
Journal of Medicine in 1995, involving 121,700 women, which revealed
startling effects from HRT. It warned that women
who used HRT to offset the symptoms of menopause also increased their
chance of developing breast cancer by 30 to 40
per cent by taking the hormone for more than five years. In women aged
between 60 and 64, the risk of breast cancer rose
to 70 per cent after five years of HRT. Finally, the study concluded
that women using HRT were 45 per cent more likely to
die from breast cancer than those who chose not to use HRT or used it
for less than five years.6
According to Leslie Kenton, author of Passage to Power, "everybody who
is anybody will tell you that menopause is an
oestrogen-deficiency disease and that you will need to take more
oestrogen as you approach mid-life. What may surprise
you is this: not only is most of such commonly given advice on
menopause wrong, a great deal of it can be positively
dangerous."
Fortunately there is another side to the hormone story-a perspective
that not only can assist women of all ages to attain
greater health but also to reclaim a greater sense of power,
responsibility and dignity in their lives.
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:55:20 +1200
From: john collier <jcollierATnospames.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: De-lurk
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970814215505.00bb8614ATnospames.co.nz>
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I decided finally to delurk myself. I found the k-list at Christmas and
have been lurking ever since. I am a 41 year old male and I first found k
(or the k found me) 23 years ago through a friend/teacher. That began my
spiritual path.
I would call myself an empath and have always found that people came to me
with their problems.I have been married for 20 years and have been pushing
or attempting to push the k and my spiritual path to the side for ten
years to keep my marriage together. This was because I felt that my wife
couldn't grasp or accept my belief's. About a year and a half ago I came
to the realization that I had to pick up where I left off. Since then the
energy has been growing and at times been almost unbearable. People have
started to come to me with probelems and I have started to grow again.
I would like to thank all the people who have posted over the last year or
so for the support and knowledge they have given me.
I have always found when teaching /sharing it becomes very clouded about
who is the teacher and who is the pupil.
K I have found can be very confusing as the energy can have physical
manifestations which are very confusing until you recognize, accept and
come to terms with them.. I have found that if I try to oppose the energy,
pain is often the result until I accept the energy as the norm. I also have
found that I cannot live on the spiritual plane all the time. Life must go
on the physical level as well. I hope some of what I have said makes sense.
Thank you for listening.
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:23:26 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: preceptions
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Dying and rebirth of Astral kalapas in the body results in SENSATIONS.
SENSATIONS in the body are noted by PRECEPTIONS.
UNAWARENESS OF preceptions result in creation of desires (RAAG and
DWESH).
RAAG and DWESH results in rebirth of Astral kalapas.
AWARENESS of preceptions resuts in rebirth of CAUSAL kalapas.
Awareness of preceptions is just observing movement of kundalini energy
without desires.
Awareness of SENSATIONS (or movement of k-energy) with desires
will fulfill the desires in fastest possible time.
Fill your pockets with gold or powers of siddhis just by keeping
the desire in mind when k- energy is working.
This gold or siddhis if selfishly used resulting in harm to
evolution will bring in diseases , unhappiness and agony.
If used selflessly with benefit for mankind will result in
presitage , power and wealth of materialistic nature.
Mateialistic wealth and power is changeable. It will come and go
depending upon your mental stage every moment during its use.
CAUSAL kalapas is permenent wealth comparably.
All this is possible if one has control over the mind.
Control over the mind can be exercised by effort of concentration
on movement of k-energy or on the breath.
ram
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:26:24 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Dream
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DREAM
Due to tilting of earth's axis , there is change in time and space
for the earth's inhabitants.
There is also tremondous change in astrological charts due to
shifting of stars.
Due to this humanity will be divided
1) Those with small ego (partly developed human beings). They will
survive if there are no geological changes. These persons will be blind
followers , servers , devotional and love oriented persons. They will
obediantly follow wisdom oriented persons in right directions.
2) Those with large ego. There will be further subdivision here.
a)Wisdom oriented...They will survive the k-energy erruptions that
are bound to occur on all large egos , thro' SAMTA and BALANCE.
b)Others without wisdom will die of k-enegy eruptions . They will
lose mental balance and also immune system due to changes inside.
c)This catagory will get sufficient time to master the k-energy
and gain wisdom in this interval.
There will be also rising of many MASTERS who will help many
marginal cases of k-energy erruptions.
AND THIS WILL USHER IN SATYUG (heaven on earth) WHICH FOLLOWS THE
KALYUG (hell on earth) AS TOLD IN VEDAS.
ram
Note: Within ten years or so Morgana will have whole world as spiritual
place and there will be no need to search a separate place.
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Dream
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>From where I sit this is all going on already...
M
At 04:26 PM 8/14/97 +0500, S.R.Peswani wrote:
> DREAM
> Due to tilting of earth's axis , there is change in time and space
>for the earth's inhabitants.
> There is also tremondous change in astrological charts due to
>shifting of stars.
> Due to this humanity will be divided
> 1) Those with small ego (partly developed human beings). They will
>survive if there are no geological changes. These persons will be blind
>followers , servers , devotional and love oriented persons. They will
>obediantly follow wisdom oriented persons in right directions.
> 2) Those with large ego. There will be further subdivision here.
> a)Wisdom oriented...They will survive the k-energy erruptions that
>are bound to occur on all large egos , thro' SAMTA and BALANCE.
> b)Others without wisdom will die of k-enegy eruptions . They will
>lose mental balance and also immune system due to changes inside.
> c)This catagory will get sufficient time to master the k-energy
>and gain wisdom in this interval.
> There will be also rising of many MASTERS who will help many
>marginal cases of k-energy erruptions>
> AND THIS WILL USHER IN SATYUG (heaven on earth) WHICH FOLLOWS THE
>KALYUG (hell on earth) AS TOLD IN VEDAS.
>ram
>Note: Within ten years or so Morgana will have whole world as spiritual
>place and there will be no need to search a separate place.
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: hormone facts
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My experience with estrogen was first, a relief of symptoms. I slept
better, no more flashes, mood higher. Then, I got a cyst in my breast. Then
I noticed my sex drive was driving me - more than usual. Then one morning I
felt like my legs wanted to gallop!! I have been vegitarian for many years
and did not even know the stuff was mare urine based!
I got off it right away. Major hot flashes. Discovered flax seed oil!!
Found tofu!! Soy beans! Herbs for a while. Look better, feel better, no
horsey stuff.
Then K hit! Lots more fun symptoms. My body is in no danger of being taken
for granted or treated casually any more!!
But seriously folks, the women I know who use natural stuff to deal with
this years long rite of passage behave more appropriately than my estrogen
taking friends. To me the latter group behave like the ideal females of the
1950's era.
So, I conclude, HRT is a male establishment plot to maintain dominance over
uppity females...Keep 'em drugged and passive and immature and ever-seeking
the perfect mate. Mature conscious women are a big threat to the staus quo,
ya know?
In all seriousness and service to the light,
M
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 01:59:22
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamMagicCity.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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David...
Amazing interpretation--WOW! You shead a whole new light on this for me.
Yes, it really is okay to let that dead part go and fly.
Thank you!
Nancy
goldfevrATnospampacbell.net wrote:
>
> Dear Nancy,
> Did you say your cat's name was 'Oreo'....?
> Isn't that a black & a white & another black......and, sandwiched
> together....?
> Isn't this an effort upon the part of "mother-earth" to get you to look
> at the dance of duality, of your higher self, with your "ego"/lower
> self....just to get you to re-think it all ... the issues ...personal
> drama & trauma you are dealing with, at this time....and whether you
> might give it all up, for a new "drama"...a new chapter....just let it
> all fly away, or get gobbled up, in the un-witnessed night.
>
> It really is ok to change.
>
> Sincerely,
> David
> ----------------------------------_____
> Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
> wrote:
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