1997/07/31 16:54
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #379
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 379
Today's Topics:
personal experience (first email)
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: Where to from here?
Re: "K"
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: Moving by faith
whirlpool
The Glory of Anger--The Last Taboo
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:02:57
From: Richard <r.peelenATnospampi.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Dear All,
My name is Richard, living in Holland and 45 (homeopathic type: Natrium
Sulfuricum; Libra; date/time birth: Amsterdam, 2 oktober 1951 3.12 AM)
Since a few weeks I have an internet connection and a important part of
my free time I read information about kundalini on the net and try to
learn how and where I can get more of this information. I just read a
number of personal experiences of the kundalini mailing list and now like
to write my own story.
HOW DID IT START ?
The k-experience started for me about 24 years ago when I was studying
Building Construction in Amsterdam. Already before, I was interested in
religion but all the (Christian) people I spoke about this subject said
more or less only one thing: you have to start believing. But, how?!?
Because other people said so?
One day I received a leaflet about Transcendental Meditation. I liked
that, because it could be an opportunity to know something more about
religion by own experience.
The first half year of meditating, everything went very smooth. I
experienced some more tranquillity, a bit more energy and happiness. But
then, all of a sudden my world changed. I remember sitting in the canteen
of our school, I tried to read a book, but I could not concentrate at
all, the words had no meaning and I felt very tense.
I do not know why, but I knew it had something to do with the meditation,
so I went straight to my meditation teacher. He gave me some yoga
exercises and some breathing techniques but they helped only little and
for a short time. The people of TM-movement did not tell me what was
happening. I felt horrible, not knowing what was happening, feeling all
sort of strange feelings which I did not know could ever exist, with
nobody to turn to, who could understand what was happening. Was I Ill?
Did I have e mental disease?
THE PHENOMENA I EXPERIENCE:
All the faculties I had, diminished:
· my intelligence: before this, school was rather easy for me but
afterwards, I had to do my utmost to pass my exams.
· friendships went difficult because of my tenseness, I could not be
spontaneous and good humoured any more
· I was afraid of what could happen. Am I becoming mad?
· Tingling, buzzing especially in my head.
· The energies kept me out of my sleep and at the same time, enough sleep
was very important for me, not to feel too miserable and tense.
· I could not ground myself at all.
· Diminished sexual desire.
· I saw more or less that many of my high-minded, good qualities where
based on egoism and self-interest
· Before I had rather strong opinions about many subjects, but now they
lost all ground and I was doubting everything.
· I felt that the energy blocked on several parts in my body
· My body felt often very tense (curled up? I do not know if that is the
right translation) and often my body wanted spontaneous to bent backwards
with my arms bent backwards and my ankles and wrists bent. When I did
that, I felt strong energies going through my body which provoked often
for a short time a kind of epileptic movements and/or sometimes for some
moments I did not know where I was.
· I felt very alone in my strangeness, emotional distress, struggling to
live a normal live: first in school and later not to lose my job.
· I did not have ecstatic or beautiful moments as described in the
letters of the kundalini mailing list
HOW KUNDALINI AFFECTS MY LIVE:
During many years I struggled with all these strange phenomenon´s. I knew
it could have something to do with the meditation I did before, but at
the same time I was thinking, I maybe had some psychological malfunction.
After about 6 or 7 years an acquaintance gave me a booklet ‘psychosis or
transcendence´ from Lee Sanella. which describes some of the phenomena
that accompany the kundalini awakening. That was the first time I heard
about kundalini. Also after reading this booklet I was doubting about
what was happening to me, because the book describes also many diseases
which provoke this kind of phenomena and I recognised only a part of
described kundalini-phenomena.
It was also very difficult to lead a normal life. After my education and
two years of work abroad (working as volunteer for the FAO) I was
working in a computer firm as software specialist and consultant for
eleven years. Especially at that time, in this business environment,
there was no understanding for emotional or spiritual circumstances. I
thought often quitting and to live a life in a more alternative way, in
one of the spiritual communities, I sometimes visited during my
holidays, but somehow I had (and have) the feeling that that would be a
flight. During that time, a strong contradiction developed between my
free time and my work. There were two different worlds: de world of
concurrence and money and the world of the alternative movement where I
felt more at home. I had a vision of growing stronger, so that the
harmony felt in groups and communities outside my work, I also could
preserve and give out in my work.
One time the emotional distress during my work was so great that I
thought I could not cope with it anymore so I decided to notify that I
was overworked. Through a big coincidence I just met at that very moment
somebody on my work who I trusted, told how I felt and he convinced me
not to give up. After that the ‘dark night of the soul´ started to
diminish.
During the 24 years that I am struggling now with kundalini (yes I know,
surrender to the process!) I have tried out several things. I did
meditations at the Baghwhan-organisation, went to a school for practical
philosophy, to the Rosacrucains etc. During years I also did not visit
spiritual groups, because I slowly discovered that all kind of spiritual
exercises intensified (and not diminished as I hoped) those energies in
my body. I also searched for psychological help to overcome the problems.
And although all those experiences have helped me a little to grow,
nobody recognised the strange sensations I experienced.
WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST FEW YEARS:
Some years ago I decided to go to let me examine medically, because I
was taking into account that the phenomena were caused by a kind of nerve
disease.
They did not find a good explanation. At that time I was also still
strongly doubting that the kundalini-energy was the explanation of all
my problems. Firstly because in the cases described in the booklet
‘psychosis or transcendence´ there where no descriptions of people who
had kundalini for such a long time (at that time about 20 years)
Secondly it seemed extra rare to have disturbances for such a long time
without development of new positive qualities.
About two ears ago I asked a clairvoyant if I had kundalini and he said
yes. He also told me I am clair-feeling (something else as clairvoyant)
but that I do not yet know how to cope with it. Also during that time I
read an article about kundalini in which I recognised much more the
experiences I have, especially that the separation between myself and
other people is not very clear (‘are this feelings of myself of do I feel
something of other people?´) That there are not such strong borders is
very nice in harmonious circumstances, but especially at my work where
there is much competition and rivalry, it gives much emotional pain (I am
working now for about 7 years in a Telecommunication firm, as financial
adviser and project leader).
In other words I am too sensitive for negative emotions: when I have a
discussion or a little conflict with someone at my work it will give me
often strong emotional pain (somebody else would hardly feel anything).
The last two years I tended more and more to the conclusion that in fact
I have kundalini-experiences although a prove will never be given. I
always have had two contradicting forces in me: a strong analytic mind,
who said ‘what prove do you have kundalini is the explanation?´ and at
the same time also a feeling (intuition?) that tended to conclusion of
kundalini. I choose now to doubt less, recognise my feelings more and
more as my real intuition.
THE QUESTIONS I STRUGGLE WITH:
I have often wondered why I had to suffer for such al long time without a
real improvement. What do I have to learn? Or do I only have to wait
until the cleaning process of the kundalini has done his work? Was it an
error to continue work that gave me an income but also extra pain? When
I ask myself, what could be the purpose of my still staying at my work
(where I suffer of the emotions of competition an rivalry) and not
choosing for a more loving surrounding I have given myself many answers.
At this moment I think the following: As a boy I did not learn how to
cope with anger. I was forced by my parents to suppress it. So, from my
childhood on I was convinced that being ‘good´ was the way to make a
better world. I try to act holy (or is the translation sacred?) I tried
to be as nice and gentle to people as possible. I suppressed de dark
side of myself . I did not want to become angry. I tried to force myself
to become ‘good´.
The rivalry and the egoistic people at my work triggered me. For me it is
most important to feel the anger and to regain my strength.
I hope that I can make myself clear. First because English is not my
mother-language but also because Love is for so many people an important
ingredient. It seems contradicting with my attempts to get more angry.
But I think I cannot become whole as I do not first try to recognise and
try to cope with the greed, and rivalry of myself and others.
The last year I let more and more go, panic less when the situations do
not go, how I think they have to. I surrender a bit more to the thing
that are happening. Lately when I have the feeling that my boss is
manipulating me, I dare to trust my intuition and do not say anymore
‘how dare I, to think so negatively about another human being´. I try to
feel the anger and at the same time not to try to take revenge (or have
feelings of revenge?) This is a new field where I am entering. I stumble
and fall. We will see where this is leading to. Not only on the subject
of anger, but also more general it seems important for my development, to
trust more that the negative feelings I have about other people and
situations are right , and not be the result of my negative ideas about
my surroundings.
I am beware that the path I am following is slippery and seems
contradicting with the movement where many people speak of, to think and
to act positive. I am very interested, in your remarks and comments. I
hope especially on remarks from people who have real insight in this
paradox for instance because they struggle or have struggled with the
same problems.
Of course the things where I´m struggling with do not happen only at my
work. But there, it is the most explicit.
THE DIRECTION IT SEEMS I AM GOING TO:
I seems important to trust more all of my feelings and act upon them. Not
let myself become overwhelmed by people who speak very convincingly
about there opinion, when I, at the same moment, only sense a tiny
feeling of my own opinion.
Not being afraid of the comedown (or is the translation: failure?) in the
eyes of myself and other people should afterwards turn out, that I have
been mistaken.
I experience that in those moments that I manage to trust (and not doubt)
my feelings, I feel stronger, less distressed and grounded. It seems as
if my opinions from former days, which loosed all ground in the
beginning of the kundalini-process, could be replaced now by this feeling
and give me at the same time ground under my feet. I mean this not only
figuratively but also literally: during the last couple of days, the
moments that I managed to trust on- and stay with what I feel, I felt my
belly more intense and in this way I literary felt more down to earth. I
still have very much difficulty to feel myself grounded, strong and
self-confident.
I still have trouble with the kundalini process. Most of the phenomena I
described before, are still there, except that they are a bit less
violent. Energies are blocked less as before, the energies stream more
through my whole body and am not afraid anymore that I will get mad. I
still feel not very happy in my work. Several people have suggested that
I should search for a new job in a surrounding which correspond more to
my long for harmony and peace. I think however that these circumstances
(as concurrence, manipulation and politics) help me to cope with the less
positive aspects of life.
Two month ago I heard about a ‘self help course for kundalini´ here in
Holland (5 evenings, I have been there twice now, we learn some yoga
positions and visualisations) Here I also heard about the
kundalini-networks on Internet. In spite of my 24 years of struggling
and searching I feel optimistic now. I have the feeling I am entering a
new phase of development, also because I can talk to people now, who had
and have also ‘strange´ kundalini experiences.
Love,
Richard
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:27:24 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: "Micke (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <pmspmsATnospamhotmail.com>
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Hi Miche,
I found the new age home page pretty cool, thanks!
Lissette
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:56:25
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question: have muscle twitches, sleep disorder, overwhelming fatique,
headaches (pressure inside skull) rapid mood shifts(plus more of the listed
symtoms) and being diagnosed with chronic fatique syndrome. Is this
diagnosis a common thread with any of your list people.
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:00:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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You wrote:
>
> "Filling my mind and empting my heart." Good or bad, I start from
the
>heart chakra and this has been my history. Gave so much that I lost
myself.
> For those of you starting to be snake charmers, remember that a
couple of
>bites ain't all bad. It is when you become profecient at the art that
the
>bites become more common and thus the toxins build up. To much is
what you
>will get to and that is where the body, mind and spirit can no longer
take
>the assults. Being a healer for a decade plus, could there be
anything else?
>
> Into the void again.
> TPp4t
>
>
Boy, did this one ring the bell. At least if I am understanding you
correctly. I've been a psychotherapist for 27 years -- never thought
I'd burn out. But I'm finding that, since K, in order to do the
quality and depth of work I want to do, I can only manage a few select
hours a week. So I've drastically downsized my material needs. I do
wonder what on earth (pun intended) could be next! Holly
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:53:28
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Subject: Re: "K"
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Maxy,
My friend, SnowLion97, sent me this explanation of "K" & more...
I would describe Kundalini as the active, creative, force of the
Universe....the Divine
Consciousness of the Universe. When the human body is created, she comes in
through the top of the head, traveling down the spine and throughout the
body, in
effect giving life to it. She comes to rest at the base of the spine in a
subtle center
of energy (called the first Chakra ... aka the Muladhara Chakra). There she
becomes
dormant and is envisioned as a female serpent coiled 3 1/2 times with its
tail in its
mouth). After death she leaves the body. Kundalini can be awakened by various
means, and upon awakening she rises back up through the body, usually in
stages,
penetrating the various other chakras, cleansing the subtle channels. As she
does
this the person may experience what is called "kriyas".....which to an
outside observer may look as if the person experiencing kriyas is having
seizures, or going
into various yoga positions almost spontaniously, among other things. This is
part
of the process of cleansing......and generally the kriyas become less
frequent, and
ultimately stop, as the process of cleansing procedes. The rising of
Kundalini also
results in increasingly higher states of consciousness. When Kundalini first
awakens, many people describe the experience as if there was a seperate
consciousness within them......as the process goes on this duality would tend
to
diminish. It is said that once Kundalini is truly awakened that she cannot be
stopped,
and that she will guide you as to what you/it needs....as far as diet,
information,
experiences, etc.
OK.....now for some other sources.....Swami Muktananda.....Kundalini is the
power
of the Self, the power of Consciousness.....Kundalini is Shakti, supreme
energy...the
Mother of the universe. Shakti is the consort of Shiva. She is the active
aspect of the
formless, attributeless Absolute....Enlightened people of knowledge perceive
Her in
all the forms and objects in the universe, and seeing everything as one in
That, they
merge in That. She is the sound vibration of the Absolute, which manifested
the universe. Kundalini is the support of our lives; it is She who makes
everything work
in our bodies. She functions through the mind and senses and provides the
motive
power for all our activities. She is at the root of all the senses of
perception and organs of action. It is she who brings the breath in and out
and makes the heart beat.
Kundalini is the witness of everything, the knower of everything that can be
known.
The awakening of the inner Kundalini is the true beginning of the spiritual
journey.
The Shiva Sutras state "She is the willpower of God, the ever-young maiden
called
Uma." She is called ever-young because She is always playing; Her play is the
creation, sustenance, and dissolution of this world.
Swami Muktananda describes kriyas as....a gross (physical) or subtle (mental,
emotional) purificatory movement initiated by the awakened Kundalini. Kriyas
purify
the body and nervous system so as to allow a seeker to endure the energy of
higher
states of consciousness.
Another source....Ajit Mookerjee...The coiled Kundalini is the female energy
existing
in latent form, not only in every human being but in every atom of the
universe. (She)
is the vast potential of psychic energy, the body's most powerful thermal
current. The
one (ie-Universal/Cosmic) Consciousness is polarized into static (Shiva) and
dynamic (Shakti) aspects for the purpose of manifestation. Kundalini-yoga is
the
resolution of this duality into unity again.
Swami Chetanananda says....When you work to open yourself (Kundalini/the
Breath
of Life) begins to flow more easily through your system. As it flows more
powerfully,
it rearranges your whole internal structure, just as the tide rearranges the
structure of the beach. Then, the universal tide moves in you, and washes
away everything that is extraneous.
I hope this is helpful.
Cher
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:53:58
From: Rafiki Cai <rcaiATnospamh-e-l-p.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Blessings and Peace:
I am a writer who is interested in compiling a brief work on Food and
Kundalini Energy.
I am keenly interested in recipes, centered around common or easily
acquirable food stuffs, that can readily prepared. My preference is
toward "live food preparations", which can be prepared in a blender or
such.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
In Service and Respect,
The Helper
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:52:58
From: "Sérgio Lucio Maria"
<sergiomariaATnospamcidadanet.org.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique
Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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>...This is a kundalini blue. There are exercises in the kundalini archives
>(I've posted some of them) which help when this happens.
>You're not alone.
>And what do we care about the apocalyse? Dying is easy.
>Morgana
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Dear Morgana,
If you can, talk more about this exercises please.
Course, you don't need make this in Kundalini list but in private mail.
Please I need your answer. Can I found this exercises in Home Page K.?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:57:33
From: phillialATnospamucrwcu.rwc.uc.edu (Anita Phillips) (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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Subject: whirlpool
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Hi everyone,
I've had a couple of interesting experiences after swimming, sitting in a
hot, bubbly whirlpool with pulsating water jets aimed at the base of the
spine. Both times, I got mesmerized by the bubbles and felt like I was
about to be carried away by Carlos Castenada's River God--or its smaller
American cousin. I had to be careful not to look at the bubbles for very
long. (We're talking 5-10 minutes in the whirlpool!) The upshot is that I
go into this trance-like, peaceful, relaxed state where my mind is
definitely floating somewhere. (Driving home is a bit scary, tho!) I go
home, meditate, put on a LOUD drum CD and drift off to delicious sleep with
vibrations going all through me. The trance-like effect lasts 14+ hours;
the peace goes on for longer.
Thought I'd report this, in case anyone else wants to try it--or already
has? It's quite lovely.
Anita P., *:)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: The Glory of Anger--The Last Taboo
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I knew that when I made that post about anger there would be some
interesting responses. And there was. Whenever I speak of anger
there's a couple of responses that I can depend on... being flamed,
stony silence and/or retreat, nervous laughter, or a pendantic
lecture. No one likes to talk positively about anger if at all.
I will answer the questions out of my own experience.
---J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com> wrote:
> This is a very interesting topic. Please indulge us further.
>
> 1. How long must the fire burn before the ground is prepared for the
> new growth?
Fire burns until there is no fuel. Adding more fuel is optional.
> 2. Being a "good" emotion, do you actively seek the state of anger
in
> yourself?
I used to "court " anger when I discovered how I had suppressed and
hidden it for years. Because of the chronic suppression of my anger,
I did not know I could be angry. But my face, my body, and my life
outpictured the manifestations of its presence. I sufferred from many
of the concomittant symptoms of hostility, resentment, and rage, i.e.
hypertension, emotional and physical numbness, depressed immune
function, dysfunctional relationships, blah blah blah.
When I first began working with my K awakening, it then I began
discovering the anger I never knew I had. I was meditating one day
and I began seeing in pictures of how I had used anger to destroy my
own life. I suddenly felt the spiraling of energy that led me into
the dark void. Such a rollercoaster ride. My normally hot hands
turned cold and dripped sweat, my body trembling. As the energy
continue to spiral into the void, a blue being with many arms appeared
and I heard the name "kali". I stared in wonder. Awareness washed
over me. I was the destroyer of my life. I had used the power of
anger to destroy. I realized in that moment what a powerful being I
was caught in destruction rather than flowing into the cycle of
creation. The divine energy flowed through me unimpeded. I began to
feel the power of anger, the thresh hold of creation. I knew I could
regenerate my life.
My body was almost in spasms as the current flowed. I was
hyperventilating and it was a week before the trembling subsided. I
never experienced anger in the same way after that.
Not to say that I am now the Serene Being and it was the begining of a
major healing transformation that continues six years later.
> 3. Do you provoke others to anger so they can also experience it?
Only with their permission in a safe environment.
> 4. What manifestations of anger are appropriate?
Society seems to have deemed what is appropriate. Maybe that is why
there are so many "civilized" ills.
Anger and violence are not the same thing. Anger is a feeling.
Violence is a choice.
Anger channeled and transformed through fear becomes violence.
Anger channeled and transformed through love becomes passion.
Mothers Against Drunk Driving was created by an angry woman. Watch
the "I Have a Dream" speech with the audio off. Bet you will seem
someone who looks like an angry man. I bet he was.
Anger calls people to action. A person is responsible for the actions
they choose.
> 5. How does passive aggressiveness masquerade as spirituality?
It's every where. A common ancient malady with a whitewashed face.
Ask the universe to show you. If you want to know you will see it.
> 6. What do you think of the expression, "You get more of what you
send> out."
Sure. Why not? What does a person choose to send out. I know what I
send out. That is, IMHO, what being 'conscious' is all about.
> 7. If we ever met, may I have your permission to hug you?
Wait until we meet. Then decide if you still want to.
>
>
>
> loooooooooooooooovingly,
and to you too.
>
> joe
Susan
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:51:17
From: Nancy Kar <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
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John King (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
> question: have muscle twitches, sleep disorder, overwhelming fatique,
> headaches (pressure inside skull) rapid mood shifts(plus more of the listed
> symtoms) and being diagnosed with chronic fatique syndrome. Is this
> diagnosis a common thread with any of your list people.
Hi John,
*raising hand* I'm there with ya :)
here's some advise:)
I was diagnosed with CFS 10 years ago. Which aligned itself up perfectly
with my major k awakening. What kind of sleep disorders are you having?
We just had a conversation a few weeks ago about difficult k awakenings.
I'll tell you what helped me...
Lots of meditation and prayer..(for me)
I ended up eating as natural as possible in the way of little meat, lots
of veggies and whole grain cereals from the health food stores.
I took a combination of evening primrose oil and fish oil. (to replace
the essential fatty acids which CFS'ers are lacking in.) I think you can
get it already mixed.. it's called Efamol.
Mega doses of vit C... ( I went to a lecture to learn about this and
please check this out before you do this. To see if it's right for you)
You take it till you get lose stools and then cut back a bit till you're
normal. The top end is your saturation rate. I took 8000 mg's a day... I
was really toxic. It took till 10,000 mgs for me to get the lose stools.
A good heavy duty multiple vitamin (now if I try to take the same vit. I
get sick from it:)
lots of sleep, don't deny yourself but try to get in a walk when you
can.. or can lose a lot of your muscle mass. I put on wieght and still
haven't got it off.
I have to be careful now that I don't overextend myself because it will
come back.
I'm now diabetic but well under control.. (watch your sugar...)
I take a chromium formula now to help me with energy, weight and
metabolism.
Well that's about it:):)
advise... even if you didn't want it... you got it :):)
Nancy
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