1997/07/31  00:09  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #378 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 378
 
Today's Topics: 
  email bombing is illegal. 
  Boddidharma 
  Moving by faith 
  Re: candida diets 
  "K" 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  spiritual homepage 
  Re: Causal digame 
  Shaktipat 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Where to from here? 
  buddhic2 
  Re: "K" 
  Re: virus alert 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:15:10 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: email bombing is illegal. 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730181510.562796bcATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
  Hiya Kundalites: 
  Last night, we were bombed.. it has been dealt with.. given that this 
idividual has already taken up so much bandwidth on the list, I would 
encourage you to voice your displeasure with Aquarius directly, and to 
Aquarius's postmaster...;) rather than commenting on the incident on the 
list.. and do it quick, coz Aquarius probably won't have email for much 
longer.. here's the story..  
  Blessings, Angelique.
 
 > Note to PostmasterATnospamnetvigator.com:  
>This address  
>aquariusATnospamnetvigator.com 
> sent 47 posts totalling over 1800k to harrass an email list of 330 people,  
>kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com  
> by setting up an email loop that kept forwarding the entire day's mail 
back to the list posting address, over and over. This individual started 
this loop running after midnight, PST and if I had not happened to come 
online very late and discover the mischief, likely by morning he would have 
caused overload crashes to all of the members systems, including this one, 
(netvigator.com) which <aquariusATnospamnetvigator.com> used to create the illegal 
loop.  
>  This action was quite unwarranted, as the K.list is unmoderated, run by 
the smartlist automatic system, and this individual could have unsubscribed 
themselves from the list at any time, as easily as they subscribed 
themselves.  
>  Please take whatever actions are customary for such incidents.  
>  If you seek more information, please inquire at 
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com 
>  	Thankyou, List Mystress Angelique.  
>	******************** 
> 
>  Hello, Aquarius:  
>  I have unsubscribed you, however you might check your unsubscription 
requests, because I have not recieved ANY mail from you previous to this 
bombing of the K.list, and thus most likely you are inconveniencing 300+ 
people because of your own error.  
>  You subscribed yourself to the list, and could have chosen to 
unsubscribe yourself: this is an automatic system, the onus is on the 
listmembers to mamange their list membership, and instructions to do so, 
you recieved when you subscribed, and I repost them regularly. Instead of 
taking responsibility for your own list subscription, you chose to go to 
war.. hardly the sentiments of the "Age of Aquarius".  
>  Many of the listmembers pay for their email by the message, and you have 
just cost them money. Some members recieve their email at work, you have 
possibly cost them some job security, others have small systems that will 
overload and wipe memory from more important work, in favor of your email 
terrorism.  
>  I hope that whatever life stresses that are causing you to react in such 
an extremely abusive manner towards so many people you do not even know, 
finds relief.  
>  In any case, if you were bombing me personally I would be patient, but 
as your act of public mischief is going to the list, I will complain to 
your server and likely you will lose your account, and no longer have 
anything to unsubscribe.  
>  So if it is only email that is causing you such stress, then at least 
you won't have any email to worry you anymore.  
>  Perhaps this will cause you even more stress, I cannot know: but 
threefold return is cosmic law, and you have caused a lot of people stress 
with your loop trick.  
> 
>  
>    If you need more info, feel free to write to me at 
>kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com 
>	Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress. 
>		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>   Website <http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/kundgate.html> 
>   in europe <http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/> 
> 
>To leave the list send a post with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject header to 
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><KUNDALINI-L-D-REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM> for the List Digest.  
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>    PLEASE!! Don't send text or image attachments to this address. 
> 
> 
>At 14:19 30/07/97 +0800, Aquarius wrote: 
>>we have notified you to unsubscribe many times before. 
>> 
>>and if there is no solution in sight, we reserve the right to reply in 
>>kind, by forwarding all your messages back to yourself. 
>> 
>>please unsubscribe me now. 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:21:07 
From: "Sérgio Lucio Maria" 
  <sergiomariaATnospamcidadanet.org.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique  
 Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Boddidharma 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730182107.6e1fc20eATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello, 
  Boddidharma is the master in the Sumi-E painting. 
  The Boddidharma lesson to us what very dificult this work with kundalini 
and with this we are more prepare to jewel K. 
  The buddism have your legend in all world... teaching with more atencion 
possible to your peoples. Like this list we always talking  kundalini but 
in the buddism everything  is very secret. Maybe I am wrong but is 
essencial work with kundalini. And because this I prefer what all works 
with kundalini. But seeing all obstacles maybe we need teaching in "lips 
and hearing"about K.. 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:41:54 
From: "Sérgio Lucio Maria" 
  <sergiomariaATnospamcidadanet.org.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique  
 Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Moving by faith 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730184154.54df8c68ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Really I wait some light. My mistic way have been so suffer and long. I am 
thinking what have, in a future, more happy days. I feel like pain do 
participate in my days. My colors have been unhappy and this cold way have 
been alone. 
  The society have prejudice... Maybe because this promisses to 
the "new life" talking and talking by politics man have so attractiv to 
poor 
people. Maybe the people having  some feelings and some love in that new 
Era, but I only can think why I can't feel nothing? Maybe God will show me 
your faith, maybe He don't have hope too. Maybe the apocalipse is coming. 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:20:17 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>, 
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: candida diets 
Message-Id: <199707310220.TAA16535ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
But Angelique, this diet can last for many, many months - into years I read. 
The lit I read did say the kill-off the first week or so on caprylic acid 
would be intense and to expect certain flu-like symptoms.  The dose I am 
taking is less than recommended as I am very sensitive to most stuff.  125 
mg as opposed to 300.  I am flushing with lots of fluids and experiencing 
some pain, but really it's almost a relief.  At last a different set of 
symptoms! So, I'd say I am watching out...
 
But I should ask, in case it gets too intense:  How would one know when it's 
time for the last couple of weeks suplement?  
 
Like so many of us, I am MD phobic after too many less-than-health-giving 
experiences. Lots of "you can't really be having those symptoms" responses 
turned me away too. 
 
M
 
PS Thanks for catching the mad poster so quickly! 
 
 
At 10:28 AM 7/30/97, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>  Yikes! Watch out!  
>  Caprylic acid should only be used to supplement the last couple of weeks 
>of a Candida diet.. you'll "speed up" the diet to the point of becoming 
>very toxic from the billions of candida corpses rotting in your system.. 
>the reason why we starve them to death over a period of weeks is so that 
>they won't die off quicker than your internal undertakers can dispose of 
>the bodies.  
> 
>At 07:36 30/07/97 -0700, you wrote: 
>>Has anyone else tried Caprylic Acid?  OTC in health food stores and 
>>apparently as effective as Nystatin. I am reading about it in <A Woman's 
>>Guide to Yeast Infections>  
>>by Baumslag & Michels.  It seems like a way to speed up what the diet would 
>>accomplish. I am so frustrated with the diet!  A bore - to say the least. 
>> 
>>I am off to the health food store. 
>> 
>>M 
>> 
>> 
> 
>		   Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
>		Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
>            Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
>      :D   ;)  :0   :)   ;P   :0   ;)   :D   :0   :)  ;P  :0  ;)  :)     
>  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
>masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
>become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
>has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
>	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:13:35 
From: MaxyzonATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: "K" 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730191335.0e471d80ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
 Hi everyone, 
  I've been on the list for a few days now reading all of the wonderful info 
but my question is. .what is this "K"?  Could someone please give me a simple 
(if so) explanation of it.  There are so many experiences of "it" but i'm not 
understanding the basic concepts. . .        Thanks guys,   Maxy 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:34:25 
From: Micke <pmspmsATnospamhotmail.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730203425.0b9fc866ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
HI all, I saw a really great homepage about "New Age" please check it out, 
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/1633/ 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:35:27 
From: "Mikael LightMan" <pmspmsATnospamhotmail.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: spiritual homepage 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730203527.0b9fb06eATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
visit this very nice little page at 
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/1633/index.html 
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/1633/index.html 
Love /Stranger
 
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:38:22 
From: Nancy Kar <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Causal digame 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730203822.08bf3636ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Ruth Trimble (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> u 
> Hi I had to question this statement in your post 
> >> 
>  Love has its opposite Hate. 
> >> 
> I always understood that love had no opposite! 
> What does anyone else think.  Isn't love the very fabric of the universe.. 
> and on this fabric are the opposites... therefore there could not be 
> something in polarity which is the opposite of the fabric of all? ... .I 
> think... but then what does a thinking mind know... 
> 
 
I always thought that hate was a form of love... or attachment. 
For as long as you hate this person or the stronger the feeling. The 
closer you are holding this person to you and won't let them go.
 
:) 
Nancy 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:33:16 
From: Michael Bown <pmbownATnospammc.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Shaktipat 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730203316.0b9f56ceATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
I have a question. Has anyone ever experienced a glowing or flashing 
light in the center of their forehead only to disappear mintues later? I 
also see pinpoints of light everywhere. I have been told by a friend 
that this is the awakened kundalini. My third eye and crown chakra trhob 
and tingle however, my visions are few and far between. I am told that 
when the Kundalin rises she is very demonstative. How do you kow for 
sure if the Kundalini force is awake within you?
 
Signed Confused 
Please email to pmbownATnospammc.net
 
Thank you I welcome any input! 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:04:40 
From: Esme Taylor <kundaliniATnospamclicklink.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730210440.09b767c8ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Kundalini 
I had a profound mystical experience  
becoming aware of this sexual practice 
It was delivered to me 20 years ago 
on the banks of the Pecos River 
several nights in a row.
 
I knew nothing of Eastern Mysticism 
when I read the text downloading before me. 
I thought, at first, that it was a creation  
of my own mind, until I felt the urge 
to do some Yoga stretches 
I don't do Yoga so I suspected 
that it maybe the message  
was also being delivered into my body 
So I went to the library 
and there it was...
 
That was a very scary experience 
I actually ran out of the library!  
What does this mean I asked myself? 
Why me? Why now?  
And what do I do?
 
I followed, studied it, and wondered 
for just two short months... 
Then bombs dropped on my life 
Survival became imperative 
I moved to the Bay Area where I've 
heard and read the words  
Tantra and Kundalini - a lot 
Despite my profound mystical experience 
I didn't investigate or follow
 
I denied the Kundalini experience 
and sexually retreated into the Dark Ages 
Mostly celibate I lived alone 
Believing Kundalini to be connected 
with the massive upheaval that followed
 
Twenty years have passed 
I'm here because this is the first day 
I find myself researching Kundalini again. 
Thanks to my new cyberspace relationship 
who recently proposed a mystical union
 
My first search today began at 
http://aloha.net/~bpeay/kundalini/awaken.html 
-- this is my second
 
There I found that my experience was not unusual: 
"Some people find themselves performing 
 yogic postures ... which they  
have never learned or could not do in a  
normal state of consciousness.  
Similarly, they may produce Sanskrit words 
 or sounds...  "
 
How much blundering and suffering 
could have been avoided  
Would that I could have accessed the Internet 
twenty years ago?
 
How different life would be for me 
.... or would it?   
Was it meant to be?
 
  
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:20:49 
From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Where to from here? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730212049.0b4ff3c2ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
  "Filling my mind and empting my heart."  Good or bad, I start from the 
heart chakra and this has been my history.  Gave so much that I lost myself. 
 For those of you starting to be snake charmers, remember that a couple of 
bites ain't all bad.  It is when you become profecient at the art that the 
bites become more common and thus the toxins build up.  To much is what you 
will get to and that is where the body, mind and spirit can no longer take 
the assults.  Being a healer for a decade plus, could there be anything else?
 
  Into the void again. 
   TPp4t 
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:06:33 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: buddhic2 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970731110444.29563A-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
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 After the causal body is grown to critical size and is completely 
balanced , that is it has become white light, it enters the Buddhic plane.  
Now the soul has become Boddhisattva or an Adept. 
 The role of Boddhisattva or an Adept is same as that of an ant or 
bee in a system. 
 The queen bee of this plane is Buddha of that era. 
 These Bodhisattvas regimentally rule our evolution under the 
guidence of Buddha. 
 They act as one soul with different egos under the Buddha. 
 Along with balanced awareness each soul has his own evolutionary 
history which gives him knowledge of the path of evolution that humanity 
is following. And this whole knowledge is shared among all these adepts 
due to Buddha guidence. 
 This knowledge and and balanced influence consists of highly 
viberational kalapas the waves of which are felt by the humanity. 
 Every soul crossing to Adepthood increases this force of 
evolutionary viberations on humanity. And with coming of time this force 
becomes so forceful that it starts affecting the humanity immediately.A 
wrong emotion is punished immediately and a right emotion is rewarded 
immediately. 
 Along with it this force effects the astral bodies of humanity of 
past karmas and that causes old karmas to erupt (this is the Kundalini 
process). 
 As more persons ar effected , the purification process speeds up 
and a very strong sieving process starts. Those persons who cannot handle 
this kundlini erruption they fall down to evolve in next Buddha era. And 
the souls that cross over go to become spi rits (angels) and then merge to 
become Adepts accelrating the process further. 
 The humanity on our earth has come to one such stage where seiving 
and sorting has started. 
 The higher power had put the seeds of life long back and it is 
time for them to harvest . 
  
 
 All these Boddhisattvas or Adepts will then again come to a 
critical mass and then merge and evolve to Nirvana. 
 It is said that the Stars are made from them to provide atmosphere 
for further life to evolve. When these Adepts evolve to Nirvana they leave 
the mass ego with Buddha of the current era.  
 Remember I had told earlier that kalapa has two important 
constituents . One was emotions and the other was ego as neutron in an 
atom While emotions were viberatory like electrons. 
 This ego of all these Adepts is taken over by Buddha. 
 This Buddha carrying all this ego has to further evolve in the 
celesial system. Billions of Buddhas of different stars are going to 
evolve on the same process for the Universe as humans evolved for Buddha. 
 
  
 This knowledge is the knowlege of adepts and the knowledge beyond 
for Buddhas is not available even for them. 
  
 But it is known to these Adepts that due to Guatam Buddha they 
received this knowledge for evolution of our sun life. 
 Initially for our sun there was no organised Budhic plane. There 
were many Deva planes and many many evolved souls. Guatam was one of them 
 Guatam would go on increasing his Causal body and due to this he 
will be Monarch of kings of heaven. At some stage he will get tired of 
that life of Monarch and will take human birth. He was not satisfied by 
Kingly comforts on this earth as human nor i n deva world. He wanted an 
answer to evolution and its purpose. 
 But by repeating this process of birth again and again he could 
only increase his Causal size. And by repeated trials he achieved this 
white body and went on increasing his size with effort and patience . He 
had nothing else to do. In fact it is said th at ego of Buddhahood (this 
is different ego from ego of humans) was already implanted in him from 
Higher celecial energy. And this was pulling him up . Even though he had 
to go thro this process with pain and effort. 
 At some stage his celescial ego had grown to such a big causal 
body that he could receive signals from higher celesial buddhic plane.(Our 
buddhic plane is at much lower stage of evolution) 
 From there he got the answers ,and his path and his work. To do 
that he spent his remaining years of life to produce Arhants by wandering 
village by village and also putting the germ of Buddhahood in various 
souls, so that they are guided in future. 
 
 After death he organised the deva world and started the Bhuddic 
world for this sun life . 
 Late still he organised and effected other solar systems which 
came under his influence on this system of wisdom of evolution. Even 
though millions of stars come under his influence he is still handling a 
very very small part of Univese. It is said that 
  there are billions of Buddhas evolving . 
 
 
 WHERE IT ENDS EVEN HIGHER POWERS OF OUR BUDDHIC PLANE DO NOT KNOW. 
But our God is our Sun. He is omnipotent ,omniscient and omnipresent for 
us, We know that a thing travelling with speed of light will take zero 
seconds of time to reach anywhere and everywhere. 
 And the Sun's light also travels at speed of light , but we say 
that it takes approx. 8 minutes for the sun light to reach us. 
 The reason is That we measure the sun light speed with our senses, 
and our senses do it with kalapas. Our kalapas are part viberation and 
part matter energy, which creates this time and space for our senses. 
 Sun's light is present here and every where all the time . it is 
not moving , it is there.  
 When our earth planet goes to higher plane as is predicted, we the 
humans will then measure the speed of light say at half of present figures 
. And then we will say that sun's light travells to earth in four minutes. 
Because of the kalapas at that time t hat we generate from our senses will 
have more of viberation and less of matter and energy at that level. 
 
   Think
 
ram 
  
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:14:06 
From: destinyATnospamcyberramp.net (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: "K" 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970730221406.0d675782ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>        Hi everyone, 
>  I've been on the list for a few days now reading all of the wonderful info 
>but my question is. .what is this "K"?  Could someone please give me a simple 
>(if so) explanation of it.  There are so many experiences of "it" but i'm not 
>understanding the basic concepts. . .        Thanks guys,   Maxy
 
Maxy...
 
K is an Eastern (East Indian) abbreviation/word that was appropriated for 
an "other than" personal experience. It is called Kundalini. The word is 
NOT the thing. The description is not the described. Don't be deceived.
 
It is a process - not a destination. It is initiated by Spirit and can be 
accelerated possibly by increase in the amounts of seretonin in the brain 
through such Rx's as Paxil or Prosac. I do not in any sense acknowledge, 
attribute or suggest such to K advantage in such things, yet such is part 
of my experience.
 
Kundalini is a word that describes a Spiritual energy force that is 
moved/moves from the base of the end of your vagina (in your case) and your 
anus.... it moves through the central part of your lower spine or lower 
back and proceeds upward to the top of your head and then to your forehead.
 
I cannot pro-offer what that will mean in terms of your experiences 
positive or negative for your growth and acknowledgement and detached 
observation.
 
If your basis of knowing (experience and understanding) is limited, such 
will be your K experience, perhaps. Letting go and releasing all that you 
think you are and all the attributes that you ever hoped to be or ever will 
be will help to bring you to the River that is Eternal and ever moving.
 
Love and best....
 
John bill beaudine 
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 02:54:05 -0400 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
CC: Edward H Gurd <egurdATnospamserver1.netpath.net>, 
 kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: virus alert 
Message-ID: <33DEE50D.4D71ATnospambridge.net> 
 
I JUST RECEIVED THIS...PASS IT ON. 
   
  THIS IS SCAREY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
   
   
   << <<Hi,Please read this message because you are going to be in 
trouble if 
you don't.This is about some password stealer guy and it's scary.Please 
send 
this to any friends and family fast.Otherwise their computer will get 
screwed 
up too.Thanks for reading this. 
     -----------------There is apparently an aol virus within the aol 
system 
that will steal your password and god only knows what else. Everytime 
that I 
sign on I am getting a compose mail screen as the first screen that 
comes up. 
 In the address box is the name    Talont2ATnospamusa.net,TaLoNDooM    
     The subject box reads  Password stealer 
     In the main box is my screen name and my password.. 
     This began late last night.  I immediately changed my password and 
signed back on.  The same screen came up again, this time with my new 
password. I went to tech help and they told me that it couldn't be 
happening. 
I sent a letter to tos and they sent me back a lovely form letter.  This 
morning I called their legal department at area code 703-448-8700 and 
got a 
secretary who hung up on me three times before transfering me to a voice 
mail. I called their tech line and the technicial expert transfered me 
to an 
extension that is no longer accepting calls. 
     This morning while trying to sign online my computer froze up twice 
while trying to initialize my modem so what ever this thing is it may be 
in 
my computer now too. 
     Enough is enough folks.  If this virus can access our password it 
may be 
possible that it can access our billing info, including our credit card 
numbers. I don't know how wide spread this virus is yet, but my anti 
virus 
program can not find it in my computer.   
     I am signing off as of now until further notice. I believe it would 
only 
be appropriate if anyone who gets this letter forwards it to anyone else 
they 
know to warn them.  I am sending this letter to anyone I can think of to 
warn 
them. If you get the compose mail screen when you sign on get the hell 
offline and purge aol from your system.    
      
      
      I have found that this virus has actually set itself up in my 
setup 
program. This guy has a location in my phone setup sreen.  My printer 
now 
prints nothing but gibberish and little smiley faces.  My son alex tells 
me 
that the kids in the game rooms have known about this virus for awhile. 
I am 
including their names on here with the request that they show this to 
their 
parents.  
      
      
     Good luck. 
     Vicki and Ron >> 
   
   
  <<<<<<<<<<<MORE>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
  VIRUS ALERT!!! 
   
  Be aware that there are  letters going around that you have won free 
Aol 
until 1998....or  AOL 4 free......  PLEASE DELETE...... contains a virus 
that 
will wipe out your harddrive...... after you download and it 
executes.....  
  SUBJECT AREA OF EMAIL....... CONGRATULATIONS! You are a WINNER! 
   
  SUBJECT AREA OF EMAIL.......AOL 4 Free - Get AOL For Free 
   
  senders.....Matthews27  or VPVVPPVVP. 
   
  WARN  YOUR FRIENDS 
   
  INFORMED IS ARMED!!!! >> >>
 
 
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