1997/07/06  16:04  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #303 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 303
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
  RE: hi, I'm all new 
  RE: Voice 
  Re: hi, I'm all new 
  RE: Subscribe 
  Kundalini, Evolution and Scientific Proof 
  Reaching the Ultimate 
  Tao and 'energies' 
  Re: hi, I'm all new 
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
  Re: K.List Family Album 
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:09:13 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
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Dear Susan:  
I have similar experiences to you.. I tried vege for 15 years... but now I 
am back to meat once in a while.. I feel better.  
> I did give it my best effort.  I gained over 50 pounds. I was 
> edematous, gassy, cranky, constantly hungry, dreams about prime rib 
> and saw no benefit in my meditations. I did raw foods, food combining, 
> Finally, I said "F**k it!" and gave in to my prime rib dreams after 
> about six years. Now I eat high protein (animal), moderate fat, and 
> low > carbohydrate.  Talk about politically incorrect in this time!   
Yes...  
But here is how I see it. Our ancestors got us here over thousands of 
years of eating meat.. and we want to reverse this in a few years.. NO 
WAY. A Japanese doctor told me that North Europeans need meat for B12 and 
cannot subsist on the vegie diet for long...so far all myfriends who were 
veggies, have gone back to meat and fish..including me.  He said Asians 
were suited to it as their bodies produce B12.   
Also if you check out that book on Diet and blook type..  
Type O - diet it mostly what you describe Susan.  
Yes it would be nice not to kill animals.. but we are NOT Asians and most 
of the rules about this were created for Asians.. not Europeans or 
descendents of them.  
  
> My advice would be whatever works use it. My diet change flouts the 
> dominant paradigm regarding health, nutrition, and spiritual lifestyle. 
> Have I ever gotten flack about it... so politically incorrect.  Been a 
> real character builder for me. 
>  
Yes... me too.. it says FOLLOW your TRUTH... Ruth  
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 02:29:29 +0100 
From: Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> 
To: "'E Jason'" <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, 
 "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" 
  <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: RE: hi, I'm all new 
Message-ID: <01BC89B4.A94AC720ATnospamjarama11.legend.co.uk> 
 
Er, thank you for your provocative questions Lobster.  
 
<Why am I here?>  Okaaay, start with the easy ones.  It seems that I'm drawn because I have something to learn.  Yes.  But to get my teeth into the question I'd have to weave a little story through the following list:  Setting experiences I've had more in context; reaffirming my k-experiences; linking new thoughts with thoughts I've had before; getting references; curiosity; exercising my mind; enjoying most of the posts.   
The main reason must be that it would be weird if I wasn't interested in a forum about k-associated matters because I've never really been able to talk to anyone about it before.  I've always been resistant to the idea of joining the spiritual/religious groups I've come across, they've claimed to be the only way.  No method, no guru, no teacher has been my unplanned way.  So, it's great to be able to listen in here.  I'm not subscribed to any other lists because there's a lot of mail here and it's worth sticking with.  I've saved quite a lot of articles containing great new insights, best expressions of feelings I've had or can relate to, interesting related posts including yours on Khalil Gibran.  
 
<What do I want?>  More of the same will be just fine, thank you.
 
<What can I offer?>  Tricky one.  Erm, well I don't need to tell anyone here about the innate value of all people, even me.  I'm particularly keen on diversity: richness is in the differences.  I'm a bit different, you know.  I've got some experiences to bring to bear.  I'll contribute to the list with responses to conversation threads when they grab me.  I don't think I'll be teaching anything to anyone here - I don't even understand most of the terminology used.
 
<My mind is all over the place (that's OK)>  Yes.  Thank you.  It's been under a few places too.  There are lots of hooks.  Sometimes I have to behave myself though.  Especially if there's a reason to.  
 
<Do you meditate?> I've picked up some basics and spent time on it.  My technique was 1. Still your mind; 2. Go with intuition;  3. See what happens next.  This was highly effective and brought life-changing experiences.  But now, no.  Or less intensely at any rate.  Because doing can be meditating.  Approaches / values are incorporated in to the way you operate.  The truth is I had such intense experiences over a period of a couple of years that I felt it best to hold off for a bit to normalise.  It felt right to.  I remember hearing from somewhere that it was unwise to get into K before 40, when you are reasonably stable in outlook.  What do you think?  I was certainly finding it a lot to come to terms with at 20.   
<OK - where do you want to go?> For me, it's something of a balancing act.  A whittling away.  From innocence to experience to innocence again.  When I'd been in for too long I had to go out.  Later, a different me felt like going in again.  Seriously though, I've never been a target-orientated individual in the sense of having a long-term gameplan for myself.  I tend to just get absorbed in what I'm doing and see where that takes me. 
 
<Imagine Kundalini is a mistaken Ms Snake that has been ripped out of 
you. Now what are you?>  Okay, I tried that for a few seconds, but it's just not happening for me, Lobster.  But I'm fascinated: what do you mean, <mistaken Ms Snake> and what's the thrust of the whole thing?  Go on, let me in on it:  now what am I?  
 
  
 
This is not the end: it is not even the beginning of the end.  It is perhaps the end of the beginning.
 
Lobster wrote: 
Welcome.
 
Why are you here? 
What do you want? 
What can you offer? 
Your mind is all over the place (that's OK). 
Do you meditate? 
No? OK - where do you want to go? 
Imagine Kundalini is a mistaken Ms Snake that has been ripped out of 
you. Now what are you? 
Welcome.
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster 
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:26:45 +0100 
From: Paul Fallon <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> 
To: "'david.bozziATnospamsnet.net'" <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, 
 Kundalini 
  <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice 
Message-ID: <01BC89BE.73FBBAC0ATnospamjarama11.legend.co.uk> 
 
Interesting.  I had a strange one once.  Was walking along the road (awake), imagined I could feel my energy field/aura around me, felt it, contracted all slowly into a shiny tight ball in my middle (solar plex?) and then suddenly, like some bolt had loosened, could hear several voices talking inside me.  5 I think.  All me-ish.  I'd have a shrill shallow thought.  A deeper voice below would respond or comment on the thought.  I'm listening, trying to take it on board, another deeper voice comments on comment 2, and so on.  Level 5 was like wow.  All seemingly distinct personalities / world views.  Huge reserves of inner knowledge to draw on.  I walked in, sat on the sofa, listening to my mother, voices still talking.  It became hard to concentrate on both and I was getting tired so I said it was over now.  The voices sang, all together, FOR HE'S A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW a few times, making me feel pretty brilliant, and then ended.  Seriously: they did.  It made me think about how perfect we all are somewhere beyond the blockages.  Reinforced my hunch that I was using external experiences to unpeel me like an onion. 
 
Newboy Paul   
This is not the end: it is not even the beginning of the end.  It is perhaps the end of the beginning.
 
David wrote:
 
I heard a voice say,
 
"When the seer sees the seer,
 
The seer sees all." 
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 08:27:24 -0700 
From: Lobster <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hi, I'm all new 
Message-ID: <33BFB95C.47E7ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Paul Fallon wrote: 
  
> Er, thank you for your provocative questions Lobster. 
  
> <Why am I here?>  Okaaay, start with the easy ones.  It seems that I'm drawn because I have something to learn.  Yes.  But to get my teeth into the question I'd have to weave a little story through the following list:  Setting experiences I've had more in context; reaffirming my k-experiences; linking new thoughts with thoughts I've had before; getting references; curiosity; exercising my mind; enjoying most of the posts.
 
Thats right. 
We are all here for a variety of reasons and manage to accomodate a 
diversity of approaches. 
What do you need to learn?
 
  
> <What can I offer?>  Tricky one.  Erm, well I don't need to tell anyone here about the innate value of all people, even me.  I'm particularly keen on diversity: richness is in the differences.  I'm a bit different, you know.  I've got some experiences to bring to bear.  I'll contribute to the list with responses to conversation threads when they grab me.  I don't think I'll be teaching anything to anyone here - I don't even understand most of the terminology used.
 
You need to read more. I will not recommend, the process of finding is 
part of the attunement. 
Your learning is a teaching (for others).
 
  
> <My mind is all over the place (that's OK)>  Yes.  Thank you.  It's been under a few places too.  There are lots of hooks.  Sometimes I have to behave myself though.  Especially if there's a reason to.
 
You are expected to behave yourself here. But certain K related forms of 
misbehavin' happen too . . . 
 
> <OK - where do you want to go?> For me, it's something of a balancing act.  A whittling away.  From innocence to experience to innocence again.  When I'd been in for too long I had to go out.  Later, a different me felt like going in again.  Seriously though, I've never been a target-orientated individual in the sense of having a long-term gameplan for myself.  I tend to just get absorbed in what I'm doing and see where that takes me.
 
You are young, things change. 
What is your short term gameplan?
 
  
> <Imagine Kundalini is a mistaken Ms Snake that has been ripped out of 
> you. Now what are you?>  Okay, I tried that for a few seconds, but it's just not happening for me, Lobster.  But I'm fascinated: what do you mean, <mistaken Ms Snake> and what's the thrust of the whole thing?  Go on, let me in on it:  now what am I?
 
Believe me my friend, telling people what they were really like is no 
fun. Best they find themselves. 
OK let us look at it a different way. You have come here out of 
curiosity. So I have made you curious. Part of you is here for more 
mature reasons, to engage in a process of growth and change, however it 
is not possible to say that too directly as parts of you may be scared 
by this possibility. So saying you may be scared will make you more 
likely to engage in the process - in order to prove you are no coward. 
Just as I am manipulating your mind, so is your mind manipulating the 
Real You. 
What aspects of yourself are Real and need to grow?
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster :) 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 17:55:15 -0700 (PDT) 
From: dorATnospamhlc.com 
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Subject: RE: Subscribe 
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:50:52 +0100 
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
To: Manoj Nanda <MNATnospamlangley.softwright.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Kundalini, Evolution and Scientific Proof 
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Dear list members,
 
Here is an overview article on kundalini and evolution starting with 
Darwin and Gopi Krishna, ending with modern science and parapsychology.
 
Hope you enjoy it - feel free to pass it on,
 
Best wishes,
 
Yogi Tom
 
======================
 
Kundalini, Evolution and Scientific Proof
 
While  science has argued that human evolution has been driven by 
competition, selection and the need to propagate ones genes, the 
kundalini experience suggests there is a hidden psychospiritual 
mechanism within each individual which  transforms the evolutionary 
experience from one rooted solely in the physical body and the ego to 
one in which the integration and purification of the psyche becomes the 
central goal.
 
This transcendental view of psychospiritual evolution points to the 
function of the subtle body comprising the chakras and nadis of yoga as 
the key to understanding this process. 
 
The individual consciousness is transformed through the action of 
kundalini on the chakras and subtle energy. Traditionally, this is 
symbolised by the spiral path of the mystics or individual odyssey  of 
mythology or spiritual pilgrimage of  religion.
 
This process also brings a transformation in the central nervous system 
and brain as the endocrine system is activated at a subtle level, the 
sexual fluids can become sublimated, and the whole psychophysical 
organism purified and refined. 
 
The dietary needs of this evolving psychophysical organism can become 
unusually sensitive and pure as the body and brain are transformed.
 
While the West has no explicit cultural or scientific map for the 
kundalini process, the yogic traditions of the East, particularly Hindu 
Tantric Yoga and some aspects of  Tibetan Tantric Buddhism and Taoism, 
offer a profound framework of understanding within which the unfolding 
of the kundalini experience can be viewed. 
 
As kundalini works on the mind, body and spirit, the individual 
consciousness is gradually immersed in a greater reality than that of 
the  conditioned consciousness be it termed the primordial state of 
emptiness of Buddhism, the Atman of Hinduism or the Tao of Taoism.
 
In the Western psychological tradition, Jung acknowledged the validity 
of this process in human development and growth of the psyche. He 
pointed to the role of symbolic forms such as mandalas as expressions of 
the need for the emerging kundalini to find harmony and balance to 
realise her purpose within the individual. 
 
Unable to find expression in the waking consciousness, kundalini, here 
seen as the forces of the subconscious, emerges in dreams which must be 
acknowledged and followed if one is to successfully integrate these 
forces. 
 
Jung gave the name "individuation" to this process of integration of the 
psyche, which works through acknowledging both energies emergent from 
the subconscious which are so easily repressed in Western culture and 
the complex aspects of an individual personality that need to be 
balanced through identifying and working with archetypes.
 
Jung believed that when the emergent energies of the subconscious, such 
as kundalini, were blocked all kinds of psychosis and mental imbalance 
resulted. He expanded this view from the individual consciousness to the 
collective, whereby a whole culture or society would become united in 
acts of madness such as war or genocide.
 
Ken Wilber has embraced the unfolding of the kundalini experience within 
Transpersonal Psychology, which brings together the Western tradition of 
psychological development which has focussed on the development of the 
individual ego with the Oriental traditions that have looked to worlds 
beyond the ego. 
 
But within Transpersonal Psychology, even though it points to the goals 
of unity, wholeness and integration as the highest state of  human 
consciousness, no special claims for the primacy of kundalini as an 
evolutionary driving force are made.
 
In fact, modern psychologists such as Stanislav and Christina Grof, and 
the late psychiatrist Lee Sannella, have  focussed more on kundalini for 
its tendency to bring spiritual and psychological crisis within the 
individual.
 
While kundalini can be compared to the Holy Spirit within Christian 
mysticism, the New Testament offers no explicit model of  psychophysical 
transformation in the manner of the yogic traditions. Thus, while for 
someone actually experiencing the Holy Spirit, the correlation with 
kundalini may make perfect sense and be extremely useful, to someone 
without a Christian outlook there are few conceptual reference points to 
understand their experiences and the process of transformation it 
brings. 
 
Thus, particularly in the climate of  secular and scientific Western 
culture, it may help to distinguish between public and personal models 
of kundalini awakening. 
 
This is not to say there is anything wrong with theistic belief systems, 
nor that they fail to explain the kundalini experience, but rather that 
for a wider public living outside that particular world view or belief 
system it may not provide a language or conceptual framework with which 
they can easily sympathise either emotionally or intellectually.
 
Personal models of kundalini awakening often centre on theistic belief 
systems, and, as said above, there is clearly nothing wrong with this, 
for Christianity, Sufism and Kabbala, for instance, all offer profound 
frameworks within which to view kundalini. 
 
But in terms of gaining a wider public understanding of kundalini, 
particularly if one hopes to win a wider audience for its relevance to 
our evolutionary outlook, it may help to look, initially, to  psychology 
and  then to the more esoteric forms of Yoga such as Hindu and Buddhist 
Tantra which provide explicit symbolic forms, for instance, which can be 
understood intellectually by a disinterested observer, even if they 
remain unempowered by them in spiritual terms. 
 
Ultimately, it may one day be possible to look to science to provide a 
model for the kundalini process of awakening and transformation of 
consciousness. 
 
This would need extremely subtle measuring devices that could monitor 
the subtle body of  the individual as well as detect subtle refinement 
and healing of the psychophysical mechanism in general. 
 
Whether or not conclusive evidence will ever be gained remains 
impossible to say, but pioneers such as Dr Hiroshi Motoyama in Japan, 
who has developed a machine, known as the AMI machine, able to diagnose 
the energy levels in the chakras and meridians of the body, suggest it 
is not beyond the bounds of human ingenuity to do so.
 
Other areas of research such as Kirlian photography and parapsychology 
should respectively help understand the effects kundalini has on the 
subtle body and the manifestation of psychic abilities she can bring. 
But it seems that even the most sophisticated body and brain scanners of 
modern science and medicine are unable to detect the workings of 
kundalini. 
 
Even so, meditators have already demonstrated under laboratory 
conditions how transcendental states of consciousness can be monitored 
through data readings on brainwave monitors, while yogis have shown how 
the mind can have dramatic effects on the functioning of the body such 
as through reducing the rate of heart beat 
 
So it may be simply a matter of time before the refinement of sensory 
mechanisms, microelectronics and computer software combine to give us a 
machine capable to proving the effects of kundalini on mind and body to 
the satisfaction of a sceptical wider public. 
 
In the meantime, people who have experienced kundalini will continue to 
express and communicate the nature of this experience in those 
particular ways that are appropriate to their lives to add to the 
gradual permeation of Western culture with a wider awareness of this 
extraordinary energy.  
 
All Rights Reserved/Copyright 1997 Silver Dawn Media/Yogi Tom 
  
 
 
--  
Tom Aston 
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:37:25 -0400 
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Reaching the Ultimate 
Message-ID: <19970706.143732.27942.13.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
 
Hi All....
 
I woke up the other morning and found a note taped to my 13 year old 
son's bedroom door that he had written.  It said:  "Mom, how do I get to 
the Ultimate?  Tell me."  He left a pencil taped to the door also so I 
could respond.
 
Of course, he was wanting to know how to reach the Ninetendo 64 websites 
so he could visit them via the internet while I was at work.
 
I wrote specific instructions: 
 
(1)  Sign on to the internet.   
(2)  Click on 'Favorite Places".  
(3)  Click on any of the places I listed for him that he wanted to go to 
- it would take        him  directly to it.  
(4)  Have fun browsing and looking at them! 
(5)  Print out anything you want so you can use it when you are playing.
 
While writing this, I thought to myself how this, too, is probably how we 
*might* reach our own Ultimate in life (compare above with below - LOL 
'as above, so below')
 
(1)  Go within - meditate -  to the vast resources we have available to 
us  
(2)  Meditate on your heart's desire, or if not known, quietly focus on 
your heart chakra. (3)  When you discover your heart's desire, or 
whatever it is you want to do or be or go        to, focus directly on 
that. 
(4)  Have fun browsing and looking at your heart's desire. 
(5)  When you are finished 'looking', write down anything you want so it 
can help you        play ultimately when you need it.
 
This sounds so much like the books on manifestations.... I'm not really 
into manifestations anymore, but hey, if I gave my son good advice on 
reaching the ultimate, it must be so too for me.  
 
I think I'll go meditate on my heart chakra now on this rainy Sunday 
afternoon...
 
Lots of Love, 
xxxtg
 
"I take my children everywhere, but they always find their way back 
home...."
 
 
 
 
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html     <~~~~ on the web now! 
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 11:40:50 -0700 
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com> 
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Tao and 'energies' 
Message-ID: <33BFE6B2.267EE133ATnospamsirius.com> 
 
John Pateros wrote:
 
> Also, as far as I can tell, the Taoists 
> don't make distinctions between "sexual energy", "life-force energy", "Chi" 
> and "Kundalini".  I'm curious about what others know of the similarities 
> and differences between/among these terms and the realities they describe.
 
John -
 
I'm the sort of person who resonates very strongly with the idea that 'all 
that is' is One being. So I tend to look at "sexual energy", "life-force 
energy", "Chi" and "Kundalini" as the single entity H20 manifesting as 
"water", "steam", "ice" -- you get the idea. I suspect that context is the key 
here: people in cold climates have 100 words for snow, people in the financial 
world have 100 different words for money, and so on. In our human experience 
our bodies and minds are teeming with energies which have very different 
characters (this chakra energy, that K symptom, etc), so I suspect it's only 
natural to categorize and catalog them. That's part of what humans do. But at 
the same time it's all some more fundamental "essence" playing the temporary 
role of "chi" or "K". 
 
Actual white light, if refracted, produces a very legitimate blue, red, green, 
etc. Peace in the human experience comes from befriending that paradox, does 
it not?
 
Paul 
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:09:26 -0400 (EDT) 
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hi, I'm all new 
Message-ID: <970706150925_93176156ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
 
In a message dated 97-07-04 07:25:35 EDT, you write:
 
<< I don't put effort in to K now and I don't experience it apart from odd 
twinges, internal pulses.  But I'm too busy you see: I've been in an 
all-consuming inner-city community development role for the past several 
years.  It's not that time for me.   >>
 
Welcome, Newboy,
 
It sounds like you're working on kundalini to me.  Kundalini is about doing 
your work, not just about poetry, sounds, and visions.  My kundalini 
activated in the midst of efforts to do my work, and I had never even heard 
of kundalini.  Now I've been devoting my attention to learning and advancing 
through meditation, study, yoga, etc., and my abandoned work is gathering 
dust.  At some point, maybe we'll both learn to integrate and balance the 
inner and outer worlds.  Meantime, the k-list is a great place to be.
 
Peggy   
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 16:42:20 -0400 (EDT) 
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
Message-ID: <970706164220_-626434917ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>
 
After 30 years of struggling to find a healthful diet, I would add these 
comments to Yogi Tom's very sound advice:
 
1.  The closer the food is to being in a living state, the better.  Don't eat 
old food.  Just compare fresh peas eaten right in the pea patch to the 
disgusting excuse for food they become after having sat in a can for a few 
years.
 
2.  Never eat hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils (trans-fatty 
acids).  Our bodies cannot break down hydrogenated fats.  Even the Vegan 
Cookbook uses margarine, a hydrogentated fat, and you might as well clamp 
your arteries closed.
 
3.  Compare the nutritional density to calorie ratio.  It's fine if food is 
high calories, as long as it supplies lots of nutrients in the meantime. 
 When your body has all the nutrients it needs, it shuts down cravings for 
junk.
 
There is a real treasure of a cookbook called "Recipes from an Ecological 
Kitchen," by Lorna Sass.  It is the only vegetarian-no-dairy cookbook I have 
ever found that has truly delicious and satisfying recipes.  This woman 
understands taste, texture, and environmental responsibility.  Even my 
husband, the carnivore, likes the food.
 
Peggy 
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:54:37 -0400 (EDT) 
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: K.List Family Album 
Message-ID: <970706175436_-1642578455ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
 
In a message dated 97-07-04 08:06:07 EDT, you write:
 
<< Did anyone besides me, .. notice an odd, almost familial resemblence 
 between most members? >>
 
Before I figured out how to view the k list photos, I had been hesitant to 
send my own photo because I thought I would feel like a misfit.  (i.e. I 
don't own a pair of Berkenstocks and I shave under my arms)  I was totally 
unprepared for the major glamour factor in your photos!  Wow, did I have a 
erroneous and stupid stereotype in my head.
 
Peggy 
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 15:24:54 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
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  Hiya:  
 Sage advice.. From the research on such fats that I have done, it seems 
that what these indigestble oils do, is to coat the cells of your body and 
reduce their electrical conductivity. This means the tiny electrical 
messages from the nerves that regulate the cells function are are no longer 
being heard by the cell. So it starts to go it's own way. (cancer, 
metabolic problems) Flax or hemp seed oil are highly charged oils that will 
fasten onto these fats and change their composition so they can be removed 
from the body.. better meditations, and a smoother K. ride.. as well as 
protection from viruses, allergies and bacteria. Nerves are primarily 
composed of complex fats, particularly the ones found in cold pressed 
untreated seed oils. You are growing a new nervous system, that needs to be 
fed high quality fats just as a weightlifter needs quality protein.  
  Increasing the cells resistance is increasing your resistance to K., 
giving it more junk to try to burn through.. which can make the process 
much more uncomfortable.
 
  Nerves are regulated by calcium. Normal body Ph is acid, and calcium is 
suspended throughout the body available for use..Like dissolving an 
eggshell in vinegar. Calcium  is a natural sedative.  Under stress, the Ph 
changes to alkaline.. the calcium precipitates out, often settling in the 
joints to later cause arthritis.  
  Regulate messed up blood ph with warm baths, or sipping a cup of hot 
water with a teaspoon of honey and a tablespoon of unpasteurized apple 
cider vinegar mixed in. The honey is a source of calcium, and the acid and 
Mother of Vinegar bacteria do the rest.   
 Also good for mild food poisoning.. most harmful bacteria prefer an 
alkaline environment.. they die in an acidic one...one reason why stress 
reduces immunity to disease. And messes up digestion. 
  Calcium is needed in quantity to digest protein.. to burn off the 
nitrogen bindings and isolate the protein molecules from each other.. a 
stressed body has no calcium available to digest protein, or to regulate 
and calm the nerves, and the stress on the immune system is worsened when 
the body thinks incompletely digested proteins are invading bacteria. The 
result is an allergic reaction.  
 
  As far as arteries go, the most interesting information about heart 
disease I have found suggests that the arteries become lined with 
cholesterol as a protective function from the toxicity of excess iron in 
the blood.  
  Wonem don't become candidates for heart disease until after menopause.. 
that is because monthly bleeding removes the excess iron from the body.. 
the risk for women is anemia. 
  The medieval prevention for heart disease was for men to be "bled" at the 
change of seasons, to remove "old" blood... some wisdom there.. the modern 
version is for men to donate blood once or twice a year. Taking blood out 
of the system removes a quantity of excess iron, and forces the body to 
produce fresh new blood. It is also a way to gradually remove blood borne 
environmental toxins, such as aluminum in the blood which is known to cause 
alzhiemers. 
 Hope somebody finds this useful.. Blessings, Angelique.
 
At 16:42 06/07/97 -0400, PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>2.  Never eat hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils (trans-fatty 
>acids).  Our bodies cannot break down hydrogenated fats.  Even the Vegan 
>Cookbook uses margarine, a hydrogenated fat, and you might as well clamp 
>your arteries closed. 
>Peggy 
> 
     
 
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