1997/07/05  16:19  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #302 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 302
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: The Golden Age 
  Re: K.List Family Album 
  Re: The LAKE  !!!! 
  RE: Taoists 
  Emotional Rescue 
  FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
  Re: Hello everyone - death of body and of ego 
  hidden chakra 
  Re: DIE YOU BASTARD! 
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
  Re: hidden chakra 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:59:26 -0400 (EST) 
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca> 
To: LOUIS JACKSON G JACKSON <lj18ATnospamjuno.com> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The Golden Age 
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Hello!
 
Oh wow.... personal ascension, planetary ascension... 
there's tonnes of stuff just on the web. Once I got into it, I 
found that there was just too much to read. So I concentrated on 
the stufff that I could more readily understand.
 
Most recently in book form that is, A course in Miracles..wow. 
It's amazing... have you read it?
 
have you tried www.spirit ? it would be a great place to startand 
from there you can get a lot of links to other sites.
 
What I have found is that everyone is talking about it but 
everyone is using different terms so that, especially among 
religions, they think that they have the secret key. Which 
leads to confusion and some resentment.  
But I believe that 
we all have our own keys that already inside of us.. we just have 
to realize that they are there and use them:)
 
Hope this helps :) 
namaste 
Nancy
 
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, LOUIS JACKSON G JACKSON wrote:
 
> 	As a new student to Kundalini as well as many other spiritual 
> paths, I have been most fascinated by the prediction that we are about to 
> enter a new period of time when people will begin to see their lives as 
> spiritual unfoldings and peace will dominate. The Indians call this the 
> Golden Age and say that it will occur after many catastrophic changes to 
> the earth and it's inhabitants. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to 
> find any information about this anywhere. 
> 					If anyone knows anything about it 
> or could suggest any books, websites,etc., I would greatly appreciate 
> it.																		Sincerely,								Louis 
> Jackson 
> 
 
     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *  
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,  
      Living through a Loveworking heart. 
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller 
     In lak'ech  Nancy...WaterFall in spirit   nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca 
 
     
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:13:51 -0400 (EST) 
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca> 
To: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
cc: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>, 
 kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: K.List Family Album 
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I too had this experience.. it came apparent with the message 
on my answering machine. All I said was, 'I can't come to the 
phone right now, will you please leave a message' My male friends 
started commenting about 'the message' on my machine and how they 
got chills when they listened to it. I thoguht they were just being 
silly at the time but maybe this has something to do with it. 
I thought it was funny, at the time:)
 
On 4 Jul 1997, Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT wrote:
 
> ---Susan wrote---- 
>  
> >my voice has changed! it use to come from high in my throat but since 
> >shaktipat and other interventions it has moved into my chest.  (i have 
> >gotten marriage proposals based on my voice). 
> > 
> >isn't life a wonder!?  ;D 
>  
> You are right in the observations. The texts on tantra assert that after the  
> heart chakra is opened, the person undergoes a change in personality  
> and looks and becomes attractive and pleasing. Specially the voice.  
> The voice also additionally gets toned up because of regular pranayam. 
>  
> After some time in regular practice, my voice reached down to the stomach... 
>  
> The same would happen to you as well and the tonal quality will improve, 
> resulting in a very powerful effect on people around.  
>  
> Cheers and love to all 
> Ashanka 
> 
 
     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *  
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,  
      Living through a Loveworking heart. 
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller 
     In lak'ech  Nancy...WaterFall in spirit   nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca 
 
     
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:31:51 EDT 
From: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com (Doreen M Esberk) 
To: rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The LAKE  !!!! 
Message-ID: <19800111.172124.14158.1.esberk1ATnospamjuno.com>
 
Hi Shadow
 
Thanks for this.  I have been off line and will be for a few more weeks.  
I am using my friends computer.   This is really 
helpful.    I miss everyone.   Doreen 
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:33:34 "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> 
(by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) writes: 
> 
> Doreen wrote to Lobster, 
> 
>> Lobster:   would you please give me info on the Lake. 
>> and crossing the lake......I have 
>> had my awareness drawn to it so many times... however 
>> I really do not understand the symbol.    Help! 
> 
>Lobster wrote to Doreen, 
> 
>>Shadow is the LAKE Expert and I have passed this on to him 
>>Hope that is OK 
> 
>Now Shadow writing to Doreen, 
> 
>Hi Doreen, 
> 
>I have seen the lake been mentioned on various communications. But  
>they are 
>NOT all referring to the same thing. Rather than just describing the  
>lake, 
>I am listing its activities that concern us. Some of them do sound  
>silly. I 
>will try my best to explain. 
> 
>1) The LAKE is a pool of souls, knowledge, emotions, feelings etc.  
>etc=85 
> 
>2) When we die, our souls (spirit, mind or whatever) return to the  
>Lake. 
>Where it mixes with others and from that mix, new lives will be born.  
>(What 
>this means is- after you die, you are very unlikely to reincarnate as  
>one 
>baby. But, you may find your presence in several babies. The good news  
>is 
>you will not be punished for your sins etc. There won't be any one you  
>to 
>receive the punishment.) 
> 
>3) What goes on when we are alive? We are actively connected to the  
>SURFACE 
>of the Lake via CHORDS. Which suggests that we are not individuals,  
>but 
>part of a huge system. Imagine the palm of your hand as the Lake and  
>the 
>fingers as people with their unique minds and having love, hate 
>relationships between them. When one hurts another he/she is hurting  
>the 
>whole system, thus partially hurting himself. 
> 
>4) If you could develop a technique to dive deeper and deeper from the 
>Surface, you will start loosing your SELF and finally you can become  
>the 
>Lake itself (i.e. the GOD). For now we can regard ourselves as part of  
>the 
>lake (or children of the God). 
> 
>If, I haven't managed to confuse you so far, then here are some  
>answers to 
>very frequently asked questions. 
> 
>QUESTION: Where is this Lake anyway? 
>ANSWER: The Lake is anywhere, everywhere and nowhere. In one dimension  
>the 
>lake is around us, but it can be just a point of origin in another 
>dimension. 
> 
>QUESTION: How can I avoid going back into lake? 
> ANSWER: To avoid death, you've got to know when you are going to die.  
>If 
>you know the exact time, then you can take extreme precautions to  
>avoid it. 
>If you manage that then you can continue to live on until your next  
>time 
>slot arrives. Some people do manage to die before their allocated time  
>slot 
>(suicide etc.) or afterwards. This could leave their souls stranded  
>until 
>the next time slot (Ghosts etc.). 
> 
>Hope this explain the basic facts about the LAKE. Now you can call  
>yourself 
>a Kundalite Laker. 
> 
>Regards, 
>Shadow. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:14:57 -0700 
From: johnATnospamanodyne.org (John Pateros) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: RE: Taoists 
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Lobster wrote: 
>... Taoists are a group of alcoholic mystics who 
>never do anything. 
>In "pop" New Age Taoism we get phrases such as: 
>go with the flow 
>don't fight it 
>Have a Nice Day
 
David wrote: 
>Taoism is an ancient system with various branches. Pop Taoism is something 
>of a new phenomenon I don't understand...for that matter I don't understand 
>the older one either... 
>But give me a break...alchoholic mystics?
 
One of the best sources I've found for opening, understanding and managing 
K is "Taoist Secrets of Love, Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" and it's 
sequel, "Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" by Mantak Chia and his wife, 
Maneewan Chia.  From what I've experienced of them, Taoist energy practices 
seem specifically designed to promote the emergence of K in an attitudinal 
and emotional environment that nurtures the ongoing, healthy unfolding and 
continuation of the K experience.  Also, as far as I can tell, the Taoists 
don't make distinctions between "sexual energy", "life-force energy", "Chi" 
and "Kundalini".  I'm curious about what others know of the similarities 
and differences between/among these terms and the realities they describe.
 
Best,
 
John 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:41:55 -0500 (CDT) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Emotional Rescue 
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I found this study on emotional control on the following page, and am 
beginning to practice the techniques with good results already.  The web 
rules.
 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3150/content1.htm 
which I think links to 
gopher://gopher.etext.org/00/Psychology/Shalif/emotions
 
here's the first page, its like 322 total but I dont want to make your 
mailbox explode, check it out yourself
 
      FOCUSING ON THE EMOTIONS* OF DAILY LIFE 
  A GUIDE FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE 
Or 
      How to change without trying too hard 
by 
Ilan Shalif (Ph.D.)
 
Originally written in Hebrew by the author and assistance of associates 
   Copyright and responsibility - I. Shalif
 
Submitted by I. Shalif 
 E-Mail gshalifATnospamnetvision.net.il 
 Home Page <http://www.netvision.net.il/php/gshalif> 
Snail-mail: Ilan Shalif  P.O.B. 13331 Tel-Aviv 61132 ISRAEL
 
  The right to copy sections of this booklet or even all of it is granted 
     to all, on condition that it is done without textual or spelling 
  errors and with no commercial intent or monetary profit. 
     In copying or quoting, the source may be mentioned
 
<cut>
 
  The General Sensate Focusing Technique (To be called sometimes in the 
   following chapters by the short form of "Sensate Focusing" or simply 
   "Focusing") is first and foremost an easy and systematic way to 
   influence one's emotional climate and to deal with each sensation 
   which comes to one's attention. By investing a small part of your 
   mental resources in focusing on the plethora of sensations occurring 
   in daily life, with the added consideration of topics worth focusing 
   on - you will be able to achieve nearly everything.
 
   Using this technique, you will be able to influence the course of your 
   whole life, and each detail in it as well. With this technique you can 
   relieve tensions, pains and any other unpleasant sensations and 
   feelings; put end to psychosomatic disturbances; and even resolve 
   indecisiveness. The technique can also be used at will to change 
   single habits or even the personality.
 
bye, 
nothing is 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:11:33 +0100 
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
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HOW TO FEED AWAKENED KUNDALINI  IN HER PUREST FORM? 
 
An instant guide by Yogi Tom, just in case you were trying to ignore 
your true dietary needs.
 
GO FOR A HIGH PRANA DIET 
 
Unless you are desperately trying to dull kundalini symptoms through a 
heavy diet of meat and two veg, in the long run kundalini needs feeding 
with prana, chi, ki - the life force itself which comes from fresh 
wholefoods produced naturally without chemicals or processing. 
 
A BORN AGAIN NERVOUS SYSTEM AND SUBTLE BODY NEEDS HIGH QUALITY PRANA
 
Kundalini awakening is like becoming a spiritual baby, the newly born 
psychophysical organism feeds on the Mothers energy through the navel 
chakra which acts like a cosmic umbilical cord, the Universal Chi that 
flows into the meridians through the fingers and toes, and through the 
food and drink you consume. 
 
THINK OF THE LIFE AHEAD
 
For the baby to grow properly and fulfill its highest potential, only 
the purest diet will do
 
A USEFUL GUIDING PRINCIPLE
 
"Eat the sun" by eating from the top of the food chain in its purest 
most unprocessed and freshest form.
 
Through photosynthesis plants and vegetables capture the suns energies 
in their purest form
 
FEED THE BRAIN AND NERVOUS SYSTEM
 
Feed the brain and nervous system for kundalini purifies them and needs 
all the help she can get..
 
PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY FUEL FOR  THE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM
 
She also activates and refines the endocrine system so make sure your 
diet is rich in minerals and vitamins
 
FEED THE SUBTLE BODY
 
Kundalini purifies the subtle body so she needs food packed with high 
quality energy 
 
Its not worth cutting corners with diet as it your psychic and 
spiritual being that will suffer
 
DETOXIFY THE MIND AND BODY NATURALLY THROUGH ELIMINATION
 
A diet high in fibre and roughage will help kundalini purify your system 
through elimination 
 
KEEP LISTENING TO KUNDALINIS NEEDS
 
One needs to cooperate with kundalini in purifying the psychophysical 
organism through the right diet to avoid damaging ones newly sensitised 
physical and subtle bodies
 
HELP THE HEALING OF THE PSYCHOPHYSICAL ORGANISM
 
A diet rich in prana, as well as conventional nutritional ingredients 
such as vitamins, amino acids and  minerals, is also essential for 
healing at every level.
 
TRY SPROUTING BEANS 
 
The ultimate dietary source of prana is probably sprouting beans, 
grains, seeds, pulses - mung beans, lentils, aduki beans etc etc..
 
TRY RAW VEGETABLES
 
fresh raw vegetables - kundalini likes these once your digestive system 
has adjusted from relying on cooked food
 
TRY FRESH FRUIT
 
sunshine, natural sugars 
citrus - acidic but sunshine  orange, lemon, pineapple, mango
 
TRY A SUPERFOOD: BLUE GREEN ALGAE
 
One should also consider superfoods such as blue-green algae which is a 
highly concentrated form of prana.
 
MUNCH BUDDHA SEEDS
 
sesame seeds are goodamongst many others
 
CRUNCH YOUR NUTS
 
peanuts..cashewsalmondsyum yum
 
USEFUL EUROPEAN HERBS
 
mint and peppermint for calm..many others too
 
USEFUL AYURVEDIC HERBS
 
Ayurvedic herbs such as kolu gota (for brain), amalaki  (for vitamin C), 
golden seal, lotus seed
 
USEFUL CHINESE HERBS
 
Oriental herbs such as ginseng , also grown in USA 
 
LOOK INTO NATIVE AMERICAN HERBS AND OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES HERBS
 
Never tried any of these - anyone know what kundalini likes ?
 
CUT OUT DEAD FOOD 
 
Dead food in the form of meat does not provide the source of prana that 
vegetables and wholegrains do. 
Although, it is known often to help dampen down a rampant kundalini in 
its early stages of awakening
 
BEWARE OF TOXIC MEDICATION
 
The body and brain can also be sensitive to conventional medication of 
any kind.
 
Listen to your nervous system and subtle body, avoiding inessential 
medicines to which they react badly 
 
This may mean cutting medications that allopathic medicine tells us are 
harmless
 
BUT BE SENSIBLE - STAY ALIVE 
 
Do not do anything hasty or stupid like refusing essential medicines 
though
 
REMEMBER - THE KUNDALINI DIET IS REAL FOOD FOR SOUL , WESTERN DIET IS 
CRAP
 
It is worth remembering that it is not so much kundalinis needs that 
are strangely extreme, as may appear to an observer of someone following 
a high-prana diet,  but rather the dead nature of much of the modern 
diet.
 
THIS IS FOOD FOR THE SOUL
 
As well as being natural and ecologically sound, a high prana diet fuels 
positive mental states and spiritual purification
 
HOW TO MEASURE PRANA ?
 
Western science is useful in gauging basic nutritional qualities of 
foods, but fails to take account of the pranic qualities of foods.
 
Organically produced food will inevitably have more prana and better 
nutrititional qualities than food produced with agro-chemicals. 
 
This applies to organic meat as much as vegetables and fruit.
 
As the palate is sensitised through purification by kundalini, one will 
become more sensitive to the pranic qualities of various foods simply by 
how they feel and taste in the mouth and stomach 
 .MUNCHING YOUR FOOD
 
Munch food to absorb the full release of energy from it and ease 
digestion by fully mixing it up with saliva.
 
ABSORBING YOUR FOOD
 
Relax after eating, lie down and let the body deal with digestion
 
TRYING SYSTEMS OF DIET
 
If you want to be more methodical why not synthesise those aspects of a 
range of diets that suit your constitution and kundalinis changing 
needs eg borrow from: 
Macrobiotics 
Rainbow Diet 
Fruitarian 
Vegan 
Vegetarian
 
KUNDALINI LIKES A BALANCED DIET
 
Avoid extremes of  feasting and fasting as kundalini is trying to refine 
your system, just follow her lead
 
KUNDALINIS NEEDS CAN CHANGE.
 
Sometimes she will prefer raw food, sometimes cooked food
 
Sometimes she will need meat to cool things down , sometimes vegetables 
to clean things up . 
 
Sometimes she will need a little food every two or three hours
 
Sometimes she may prefer three regular meals a day.
 
Sometimes she will need small, carefully  measured helpings
 
Sometimes she will eat everything on the table
 
GO FOR PURE DRINKS AND ENERGY SHAKES
 
mineral water, fresh juices, vegetable juice, herb teas can all meet 
kundalinis needs
 
YUM YUM 
 
BON APPETIT 
 
GET FEEDING THAT NEW CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM..
 
Yogi Tom
 
Burp !
 
All additions and suggestions welcomed - maybe one day, yes - The 
Kundalini Cookbook
 
--  
Tom Aston 
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:28:07 
From: OsmundvozATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Hello everyone - death of body and of ego 
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That Die you bastard lay down and die approach really works. 
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:30:36 
From: Ramiro Barrantes <rabarATnospamcariari.ucr.ac.cr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: hidden chakra 
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Hi, I'm new to this list and this is my first post.  Anyway I have some 
experience with yoga and kundalini. 
  In some literature (by the teosophist Leadbeeter and by Anundale) there 
is a mention about a chakra that's related with the sexual but that it's 
not talked about in books because of it's danger. 
  In any case, do any of you know something or have information 
(bibliographical) or can tell me any information about that chakra? If a 
person has reasons to believe that he has it very activated what can you 
recommend doing?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.   
Ramiro B. R. 
San Jose, Costa Rica				       
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:43:46 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: DIE YOU BASTARD! 
Message-ID: <33BEB202.6DFATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Tom Aston wrote:
 
> one teaching that works for me is 
>  
> DIE YOU BASTARD ! LAY DOWN AND DIE ! 
> 
 
You psychic Tom?
 
How'd you know the quote on my bumper sticker?
 
David, 
Learning to fly and die, 
All in one motion. 
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT) 
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
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---Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> HOW TO FEED AWAKENED KUNDALINI  IN HER PUREST FORM? 
 
After receiving shaktipat I was instructed to follow a high prana 
diet... 
good for you...more spiritual...no animals are killed...etc.
 
I did give it my best effort.  I gained over 50 pounds. I was 
edematous, gassy, cranky, constantly hungry, dreams about prime rib 
and saw no benefit in my meditations. I did raw foods, food combining, 
vegan  and the like.  During my vegan period I was so cold I would sit 
on the Gulf Coast beach in Florida in the middle of the summer 
shivering in the sunlight.  "oh, you are just detoxifying,"  "Healing 
crisis," said another.  Even adding heating herbs did not help.
 
Finally, I said "F**k it!" and gave in to my prime rib dreams after 
about six years. Now I eat high protein (animal), moderate fat, and 
low  
carbohydrate.  Talk about politically incorrect in this time!  
 
I no longer eat sugar, bread/grains/most legumes, starchy veggies, 
pasta, milk (too much sugar). Now its meat, cheese, butter and non 
starchy veggies, plus occasional fruit. I don't trim the fat off my 
food either anymore. Won't buy a reduced fat or no fat item.
 
No more ravenous cravings, no more mood swings, no bloating, edema, 
high blood pressure, erratic menstrual cycles.  I am calmer, of more 
moderate temperament ( hunger makes me bitchy...so does denial), have 
powerful meditations, I have lost 50 pounds and I am still loosing. I 
also have no dreams about prime rib and no dreams about bread and 
pasta.
 
Some may say, food allergies.  Yeah, probably yeast most likely.  Dont 
really care now.
 
My advice would be whatever works use it. My diet change flouts the 
dominant paradigm regarding health, nutrition, and spiritual lifestyle. 
Have I ever gotten flack about it... so politically incorrect.  Been a 
real character builder for me.
 
What do Native Americans call a vegetarian?........a lousy hunter.
 
A hard core carnivore,
 
Susan
 
Mother always said the only thing I preferred when I was little was 
meat.
 
 
_____ 
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:07:07 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE 
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  YAAAAAYYY!! (Mystress Jumping up and down at her keyboard..) 
  You have said what I would have, but probably more politely.. 
Of course there are always exceptions. I seem to be an exception, for 
sure...  I don't expect in a group this size I am the only exception, and 
now I know I am right!  
   The little voice said "Prana is everywhere.. don't put too many limits 
on where you expect to find it"  An interesting idea.. I have come to the 
realization some time ago that the reason for my tiny appetite and unusual 
dietary needs is that to a certain extent I am living on prana directly. 
Living on K. itself.  
   
  Not claiming to be a breatharian, but I eat only one meal a day, plus 
plenty of tea and a late night snack food, usually ice cream or something 
crunchy to nibble as I write. My diet has shaped itself by my allergies, 
which I interpret as my body telling me what it doesn't want.  
   Yay! Carnivore Power! We have the same diet, except I consume cream, ice 
cream, and dark demerra sugar in some quantity. No rice, beans, citrus, 
wheat, rye, no high fibre, no fake fats, margarines, or overheated oils, 
Flax seed oil in quantity, and give me my organic prime rib steak barbecue, 
or watch the ducks in the park start to go missing.     Asparagus, corn, 
potato or ceasar salad on the side.. but I still do find food combining 
useful. Many vegetable and friut allergies, I stick to seasonal and local, 
to get the right prana for the location where I live.. cranberry juice not 
orange juice, no bananas, no pesticide or messed up DNA. No premixed stuff 
containing chemicals I don't recognize, no nitrites or MSG.  
  Nothing ever really dies, but some things get killed and eaten over and 
over again.. The bumper sticker says: "I didn't claw my way to the top of 
the food chain to become a vegetarian." All of the most intelligent animals 
are carnivores, with the possible  exception of elephants, and a few 
others... Elephants will kill carnivores, tho.  
  Vegetarian does not mean non-violent. Even hamsters fight. 
  Animals seldom suffer the pains of dying of old age, unless they are 
human pets. Nature provides quick exits for the old and weak. 
  Human digestive systems cannot digest cellulose fibre, which is what 
plants are made of.. we don't have a gizzard with grinding rocks, or a four 
chambered stomach. Unless the cell walls of cellulose are broken down by 
juicing, chewing, or cooking, thier nutrition is inaccessable to us. I have 
seen many pallid sickly looking flatuent vegetarians who apparently are 
unaware of this.  
  A cat eats grass when it feels sick, because the grass will purge.  
  Find a bone or antler in the woods, likely it will show signs of having 
been gnawed by rabbits who are after a calcium and mineral supplement.  
  They used to think that monkeys were very picky eaters, taking the best 
bites of fruit and tossing the rest, as a human would. A recent study 
conducted by following monkey tribes around in the rain forest and 
examining what they are throwing away proves the opposite. The monnkeys are 
after the protein supplement provided by the bugs in the fruit.. they pick 
the wormy fruit, bite out the worms and eat them and toss the rest.  
 Blessings, Angelique.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
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  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:08:50 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hidden chakra 
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Hi Ramiro: 
About this hidden chakra...the sex chakra... 
>   In any case, do any of you know something or have information 
> (bibliographical) or can tell me any information about that chakra? If a 
> person has reasons to believe that he has it very activated what can you 
> recommend doing? 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.   
> Ramiro B. R. 
> San Jose, Costa Rica				       
>  
I have had it awakened and this is what I have learned. It is about 
finding that inside the male there is the female point usually found in 
the body of a female..and inside the female there is a point that usually 
comes from the point of the penis... This creates the Hermaphrodite.. or 
the Androgyn or Shiva (who is both sexes)  Usually this comes into 
experience when the K. aspirant reaches the 5th main chakra (there are 
actually a lot more chakras than are put into books) in the throat. Here 
is where the male/female merge into one.. and above this point there is no 
more separation...some call it Christ Consciousness.  My experience was 
that until the K. reached the throat I was sexually aroused whenever I 
would meditate and this is verified by Muktananda "The Play of 
Consciousness" and his Autobiographical account of actually tearing his 
underwear with his erect penis...so great was his experience of this.  
It can be very distressing to a yogi who practices brahamacharya or 
celibacy to have this happen... however it is part of the process and as 
Muktananda found eventually the energy stops going through the downward 
path... in biological sex.. and goes the upward path within to the inner 
female location( for the male) and the inner male location for the female. 
Then you reach a state of orgasm for as long as you want to hve it.  It is 
a bit incapacitating... your eyes roll up in your head and you just want 
to lie around and groan in bliss... as I recall my longest time was 48 
hours...!  After a while you go past that too.. but there is this sense of 
being like a turtle.. you hve your home and your beloved with you all the 
time and you are never alone anywhere..  This is how I experienced it.  
In the ancient texts this is called Urddhvareta...where the semen and the 
sexual juices are sucked up inside and you can actually feel the light of 
the sexual fluid (which is pure light) coming up through the body in great 
ecstasy. This creates some kind of inner flow which connects through the 
throat and up to the pineal in a sort of figure eight.   
As you can see this is not technical according to the text book account, 
but it might help you with this issue.... you are not alone in being 
concerned about it.  It can be a big turn off for anyone with issues about 
sexuality... just one more blockage.   
Good luck:  
Ruth  
 
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