1997/06/24  03:33  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #286 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 286
 
Today's Topics: 
  Real-time Access To Intuition 
  some additional thoughts on labyrinths. 
  Suspicion 
  Beauty 
  Think. 
  Hi from Rhavy 
  Counting the Sheep ... 
  the LAKE !!! 
  The LAKE  !!!! 
  Re: The key to the unified field. 
  Re: REIKI 
  Re: Reiki class (was Re: planetary healing and consciousness) 
  Love 
  K-energy 
  Risposta: the LAKE !!! 
  Re: Love 
  Lake 
  Re: Love 
  Risposta: Love 
  Ego 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:16:02 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kwrightATnospammaui.net 
Subject: Real-time Access To Intuition 
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  Hiya: 
 I was digging in my huge archives for Kurt's kinesiology testing 
excercise, and I found this post from him instead: How to frame questions 
for yourself in a way so that they engage your creative intuition.  
  I have a lot of respect for Kurt, I 'met' him online when he was sharing 
wisdom with the Celestine Prophecy list.  
  Speaking of that list, O Bookish Kundalites, I am no longer subscribed, 
but I support that list as Mystress Cybrarian. The Cybrary.txt is an email 
attachment that contains a long list of books, websites and a few films, 
videos reviewed and recommended inspiriational by the members of the TCP 
list. My duty is to send it to anyone who sends me an email with the words 
"Celestine Cybrary" in the subject header.  
   I mention this for two reasons: First, if you want a copy, follow those 
instructions. 
  Second, the creation of a similar document by K.list would be a valuable 
thing.  
  I do not have the time to assemble such a project myself, I am still way 
behind on updating the K. websites...tho I would be happy to forward it to 
any who request, and to all new members once it has been manifested by 
another.  
  So, I guess I am looking for a Volunteer(s) who would be willing to 
recieve mail with reviews of everybody's fave K. inspiring or informative 
books, music, videos, websites.... and then edit them into an organized 
text file.  
  A library of Kundalini stuff. There is the Website booklists to begin 
with. They were gathered a year ago, when The site was first put up by 
Richard Satin. 
  Call it the K. list First Anniversary Project.
 
  Anyway, Here's Kurt.... Blessings, Mystress. 
   
>Return-Path: <sfcpkzzfATnospamscfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> 
>Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:11:14 +0000 
>From: Kurt Wright <kwrightATnospammaui.net> 
>Reply-To: kwrightATnospammaui.net 
>Organization: Clear Purpose Management, Inc. 
>To: Celestine List <celestine-lATnospamnewciv.org> 
>Subject: Real-time Access To Intuition 
> 
>All of these wonderful posts about getting great intuitive insights in 
>the shower and while we sleep prompts me to point out that there is a 
>way to get that kind of help from our intuition on stream all of the 
>time. 
> 
>The trick is to continually practice the skill of putting our feelings 
>into words, particularly in response to what I call "Value-Finding" 
>questions, such as those shown on the attached piece. Quite simply, the 
>more time we spend practicing this way of asking and responding to 
>questions, the more immediate and direct access we gain to the immense 
>contribution that is available from our intuition. 
>--  
>Blessings and aloha from Maui, Hawaii 
> 
>Kurt Wright 
> 
>PS: Most of us have much work to do before we emerge from the vast 
>illusions of the third dimension into full awareness of the state of 
>unconditional love. 
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>Guidelines For Using Right Questions To Find Value In The Past & Present 
> 
>As a guiding principle, right questions are those which allow the other 
person to feel valued while finding new value hidden in their innermost 
feelings. In addition, the intuitive processing of right questions 
generates the creative energy needed to put ourselves and others "in the 
zone," or "on a roll." Learning to ask value-finding questions thus becomes 
the most practical way to begin implementing Clear Purpose Management. 
There is a huge payoff when we begin to practice asking value-finding 
questions of others around us, and invite others to do the same for us. 
And, the more skill we develop in asking value-finding questions of others, 
the more we build the habit of asking value-finding questions of ourselves. 
> 
>While building these new habits of asking value-finding questions, we also 
benefit by accumulating the experience necessary to make effective use of 
our intuitive capabilities on a long-term basis, as well as being prepared 
to participate in the vision building process. To initiate this process, 
keep in mind the above guiding principle of asking value-finding questions 
and begin exploring the benefits of asking questions of others from the 
samples listed below. 
> 
>1.  What was the best  thing that happened to you today?    (After their 
response) What did you appreciate most about that?  (Be ready to explain 
openly and honestly why you are asking.) 
>2.  What was the highlight of your _______ (day, week, trip, etc.)? 
>3.  What is the principal value you are getting from this discussion? 
>4.  What two things did you like best or appreciate most about ______? 
>5.  What was the best, most meaningful or useful part of your meeting, etc? 
>6.  What would you do more of or less of another time? 
>7.  What feelings are you having right now about the decision or project 
you are considering? 
>8.  With what aspects of it are you feeling most comfortable?        Least 
comfortable? 
>9.  What is the message or insight for you in these feelings? 
>10.  What would it take for you to feel more comfortable? 
>11.  What are your uncomfortable feelings telling you?     Can you see any 
unique patterns in these uncomfortable feelings? 
>12.  In what ways could I be most helpful to you right now? 
>13.  Talk to me about what you are feeling or thinking right now. 
>14.  What are you learning from listening to your feelings right now? 
>15.  What other question could I ask that might be helpful? 
> 
>Remember! . . . . A right question is one for which there is no wrong answer! 
> 
> 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:26:02 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: some additional thoughts on labyrinths. 
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   The seed pattern labyrinth, to me at first glance, reminded me of the 
shape of a human brain. The pineal gland at the very center, entering the 
pattern from the brainstem. or perhaps through the forehead, vision and 
third eye.. depending on which way up you look at it.. 
  Drawing and walking the pattern seemed to only enhance this impression. 
  Sensory impressions winding through all areas of the brain considering 
viewpoints and beliefs before arriving finally to be processed finally in 
the third eye center, and the new beliefs/decisions/knowledge retracing the 
same path through all of the centers of thought and exiting the brainstem 
again to become actions in the physical world.  
  Looking at it with the entrance at the forehead, it is like a map of 
information being passed from one hemisphere to another as it is processed.  
  Going through the pattern, the first entrance takes you deceptively near 
the center cross, but the pattern takes you round the third ring and 
outward to the largest circle, then abruptly close to the center cross, and 
then in a tight circle seeming ever closer to destination, then back around 
away again to larger circles farther from the center, before abruptly 
finding the center around a bend.  
   It reminds me of a storytelling pattern, a plot formula. The path of 
learning, the path of focusing and quieting the mind in meditation, 
symbolized and magnified by a physical pattern that the whole physical body 
moves through.  
 Blessings, Angelique.
 
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
      :D   ;)  :0   :)   ;P   :0   ;)   :D   :0   :)  ;P  :0  ;)  :)     
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:43:14 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Suspicion 
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Kundalites!
 
Suspicion makes you disbelieve your own self. 
Bad environments and circumstances will breed suspicion. 
It will make you discard all morals. 
Even great scholars will act like morons. 
Tempt you to carry out unnecessary experiments. 
Will result in dangerous actions. 
Any good advice would sound disgusting. 
Good wisdom is the only cure.
 
- A loose translation by Shadow 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:42:31 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Beauty 
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Hi Kundalites
 
Beauty is all around us. Beautiful people, beautiful children, birds, 
mountains, rivers, lakes and flowers. Beauty existed before the beginning 
and it will exist after the end.
 
SARASWATHY, the goddess of WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE and BEAUTY. The existence of 
someone who knows the WHOLE TRUTH is a good enough reason to celebrate. 
Let's party
.
 
Forever I shall worship her, the LOTUS and the LAKE.
 
- Shadow 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:43:06 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Think. 
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Kundalites!
 
Pause and THINK. 
All evil will disappear.
 
- Shadow 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:31:53 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Hi from Rhavy 
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Hi Kundalites,
 
I have been lurking for several ceturies before the K forum existed. It is 
now my intention to reveal my mission to enlighten those in need of 
bafflement. I wish to share the various K experiences I have not had. The 
various chakras have steadfastly remained closed - very luckily. No psychic 
powers of any description have manifested. 
So why am I here? 
Why are any of us? 
Well as a friend of Lobsters I felt it my duty to expose his lack of 
knowledge on Kundalini. We are both awaiting our Guru (Swami Harish) to 
become interested in religion so we can receive shaktiput. I will be happy 
in the mean time to share with all those who know nothing.
 
Shadow 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:34:18 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Counting the Sheep ... 
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Hi Kundalites,
 
When you complain to a friend that you can't sleep during the night, You 
are very likely to come across the phrase "Have you tried counting the 
sheep like one sheep, two sheep, and so on?". Remember the plural for sheep 
is also sheep.
 
How does this technique work?  One theory is that it bores you to sleep. 
But seriously this is a technique for mind relaxation, which allows you to 
take your mind away from unwanted thoughts and go to sleep. Let us look at 
the basic TYPES of simple methods for relaxation  (leaving aside chanting, 
standing on your head etc.).
 
1) LINEAR Thoughts such as counting the Sheep, counting your Breath and so 
on. Here we are going through a continuous motion at a comfortable speed, 
and there is no TARGET to reach or aim for.
 
2) FOCUSING is a method for relaxing and concentrating. Closing your eyes 
and looking at an imaginary white dot, focusing your thoughts on a still 
picture etc.
 
3) CIRCLING. Think of an object. It can be small like your monitor or large 
such as your House or the LAKE near to which Doreen lives (assuming that 
she lives near the LAKE and not inside it). It could even be a weird 
imaginary object or somebody you know very well. Now imagine yourself 
circling around that object, viewing all its sides. It is important that 
you choose an object that you are comfortable with and travel at a speed 
you can be comfortable with.
 
4) FLUCTUATING. Imagine a cow tied to a long string, the other end tied to 
a Pole in the middle of a large green Grass field. Now the cow has started 
grazing. It is moving in a CIRCULAR motion similar to the previous method. 
But keep an eye on the pole as well. It is the CENTRAL object. While the 
cow moves, you can see the string getting coiled on to the pole. The string 
is getting shorter and shorter and the cow closer and closer. Finally, the 
cow ends up next to the pole. Now stop and relax for few seconds. Cow has 
started moving again, but in the opposite direction. The string is being 
uncoiled from the pole. The string is getting longer, so is the distance 
between the cow and the pole. Here is my favourite technique (It is a 
difficult method, until you get the hang of it). Start from 1 and count 
upward to 11. Now start from 10 and count downwards to 2, then from 3 
upwards to 9, from 8 downwards to 4, and so on until you reach 6. Relax for 
few seconds. Now move in the reverse order of the previous motion. The 
pattern is like this:
 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 
8 7 6 5 4 
5 6 7 
6 
NOW RELAX 
 
5 6 7 
8 7 6 5 4 
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
 
I am already going into trance just by just typing this.
 
Regards, 
SHADOW 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:33:02 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: the LAKE !!! 
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>.... 
> something about the lake, it exists at the base of the  
> spine like kundalini and ...... 
> 
> Ed
 
Hi Lobster,
 
Well, the LAKE is external. The LAKE is not inside us. You could say that 
we are inside the LAKE. The oddest thing is that strong emotions (love, 
anger etc.) can make you sink further deep. Benefits? You will mix with 
others (or overlap). You could regard it as a benefit, unless you have 
reservations about becoming half you and half Elvis Presley in your next 
incarnation.
 
Regards, 
Shadow. 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:33:34 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: The LAKE  !!!! 
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 Doreen wrote to Lobster,
 
> Lobster:   would you please give me info on the Lake. 
> and crossing the lake......I have 
> had my awareness drawn to it so many times... however 
> I really do not understand the symbol.    Help!
 
Lobster wrote to Doreen,
 
>Shadow is the LAKE Expert and I have passed this on to him 
>Hope that is OK
 
Now Shadow writing to Doreen,
 
Hi Doreen,
 
I have seen the lake been mentioned on various communications. But they are 
NOT all referring to the same thing. Rather than just describing the lake, 
I am listing its activities that concern us. Some of them do sound silly. I 
will try my best to explain.
 
1) The LAKE is a pool of souls, knowledge, emotions, feelings etc. etc
 
2) When we die, our souls (spirit, mind or whatever) return to the Lake. 
Where it mixes with others and from that mix, new lives will be born. (What 
this means is- after you die, you are very unlikely to reincarnate as one 
baby. But, you may find your presence in several babies. The good news is 
you will not be punished for your sins etc. There won't be any one you to 
receive the punishment.)
 
3) What goes on when we are alive? We are actively connected to the SURFACE 
of the Lake via CHORDS. Which suggests that we are not individuals, but 
part of a huge system. Imagine the palm of your hand as the Lake and the 
fingers as people with their unique minds and having love, hate 
relationships between them. When one hurts another he/she is hurting the 
whole system, thus partially hurting himself.
 
4) If you could develop a technique to dive deeper and deeper from the 
Surface, you will start loosing your SELF and finally you can become the 
Lake itself (i.e. the GOD). For now we can regard ourselves as part of the 
lake (or children of the God).
 
If, I haven't managed to confuse you so far, then here are some answers to 
very frequently asked questions.
 
QUESTION: Where is this Lake anyway? 
ANSWER: The Lake is anywhere, everywhere and nowhere. In one dimension the 
lake is around us, but it can be just a point of origin in another 
dimension.
 
QUESTION: How can I avoid going back into lake? 
 ANSWER: To avoid death, you've got to know when you are going to die. If 
you know the exact time, then you can take extreme precautions to avoid it. 
If you manage that then you can continue to live on until your next time 
slot arrives. Some people do manage to die before their allocated time slot 
(suicide etc.) or afterwards. This could leave their souls stranded until 
the next time slot (Ghosts etc.).
 
Hope this explain the basic facts about the LAKE. Now you can call yourself 
a Kundalite Laker.
 
Regards, 
Shadow. 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:35:46 
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The key to the unified field. 
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> Doreen wrote: 
>  
>      I have a question........................................  It is 
> really  a mess financially where I sit....and I am really...really.. 
> worried...and do not seem to go beyond it.   Not even enough 
> to go and just get a job.  I am really stuck. 
> Any comments?? 
> Sincerely 
> Doreen 
>  
 
Hi Doreen,
 
Pardon me for being a bit old fasioned. There is a very old technique which 
would help you overcome your current state of mind. Believe me, this 
technique still works for most people. The technique is simply COMPARING 
YOURSELF WITH THOSE WHO ARE FAR LESS FORTUNATE THAN YOURSELF. You can 
achieve a great deal of happiness by being kind and understanding towards 
others. Well, how can one understand another? Yet another ancient technique 
- IMAGINE YOURSELF IN THEIR POSITION.
 
- SHADOWS 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 00:55:03 -0400 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: morganaATnospambest.com 
CC: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: REIKI 
Message-ID: <33AE01A7.77CBATnospambridge.net> 
 
HI Morgana, 
I did the Reiki 1 course over the weekend. It was great. The teacher is 
an Argentinian lady, and she is excellent. 
She said something about the symbols, that they start losing their power 
if they are divulged when the students are not up to that level yet... 
.... I dont know about the symbols because she said that is Reiki 2. I 
will take it in about 6 months. 
I have the book Reiki Esencial, in Spanish by Diane Stein, and I started 
reading it yesterday, after the course...I'm at the beginning and it is 
wonderful.. my teacher is a traditional teacher and sees that book as 
something not so good, in the sense that one should have time in between 
the levels..to assimilate the materials and practice it, and that Diane 
Stein just dumps everything there... 
What do you think? 
Love and light, 
Lissette 
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 01:54:41 -0400 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Joseph Miller <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Reiki class (was Re: planetary healing and consciousness) 
Message-ID: <33AE0F63.67A7ATnospambridge.net> 
 
>Hi Joe, 
You wrote,  
> Reiki is a valid system and does work. I believe it can be helpful to  
> practrice it at certain points in one's process (no teacher comment yes  
> or no on that statement). At other points it can be harmful (strong  
> teacher comment on that point), at least in  the sense you will be  
> taking energy away from process and putting it into the Reiki. It also  
> would feed into the dangers of anyone at throat and should not be done  
> if your process is at that point. That is not what you'll be told in the  
> Reiki class but it is the case none the less.
 
What do you mean of taking energy away from the process and giving it to 
Reiki? 
>  
> My judgement is if you're K is below the heart, and there are no  
> dangerous complications already in your process, Reiki will probably  
> help. If you are above heart it will be less valuable to your process  
> and may hurt things. But all that will vary from individual to  
> individual.
 
How do you know where the K is? I had shaktipat and have been meditating 
and going through the usual changes of K, not bad symptoms except abit 
of depression and bad luck with my career, but nothing that I cannot 
cope with at this moment of my life 
>  
> When doing any type of body work, massage, Reiki, etc. you first put on  
> some hand lotion. It is supposed to lower the liklihood of backflow of  
> bad energies (a subtle energy condom). Also consider doing a "flush"  
> after treating people. Done by treating a tree or a drain pipe.
 
I heard about scented oil, I asked my teacher and she says that it 
nonsense and that it does not matter, that we should not think as others 
to be "toxic", or that they give us bad stuff... 
>  
> Beyond that, pay attention to what you feel and any changes in your  
> process and enjoy the experience. 
I had a lot of emotions when I got the group Reiki, childhood stuff that 
I thought did not bother me anymore surfaced and it was amazing the 
amount of grief and anger that I have repressed.
 
Thank you so much for your feedback, you seem to know a lot about this, 
please tell me more.. 
Love and light, 
Lissette
 
> 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:27:12 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Love 
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 I have never liked the word love. 
 If you love someone you love others less. 
 Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per  
  definition of God given by everyone. 
 Why am i different from majority? 
   ram 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:40:11 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: K-energy 
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 We are all the time making our inner universe with the thoughts  
that we go thro. 
 All our inner universes of different planes are connected to  
Physical body thro chakras. 
 When inner balance of any one of universes is disturbed this  
thought energy gives physical symptoms. we call this K - energy. 
 K- energy is neither God  nor Intelligent. 
 Our survival system is intelligent to limit K-energy so that it  
does not destroy us. 
 Remaining thoughtless or aware CLEANS K-energy . 
 All thoughts bad or good  give strength to this K-ENERGY. 
 K- energy keeps us away from REALITY. 
 Movement of K-energy is blessing for us as that makes it easy for  
us to be AWARE of it. 
 AWARENESS throws out this energy out of our system and brings us  
near to REALITY. 
 Why am I different? 
  ram 
Date: 24 Jun 97 11:53:35  
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
To: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk> 
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Risposta: the LAKE !!! 
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Hello all,
 
There was a discussion on the LAKE and sould getting mixed in this lake till  
the  
next birth.
 
>Well, the LAKE is external. The LAKE is not inside us. You could say that 
>we are inside the LAKE. The oddest thing is that strong emotions (love, 
>anger etc.) can make you sink further deep. Benefits? You will mix with 
>others (or overlap). You could regard it as a benefit, unless you have 
>reservations about becoming half you and half Elvis Presley in your next 
>incarnation.
 
Methinks the soul is not some material stuff that can get "mixed" with others  
like 
a chicken-garlic soup or something. Our own experiences and impressions  
"karmas"  
are the only thing that take us to our next incarnation. Or else we would get  
our  
extra bit of karmic punishment becaus a bit of Jack the Ripper got mixed into  
our 
current birth !! The karmic law states that we get out bit of punishment /  
rewards for  
out own deeds and nothing else. So logically there would be no mixing in the  
LAKE soup.
 
There are certainly influences, coming into contact with someone with strong  
centers  
and then this influences your mind, action and hence later rewards/punishment. 
 
Finally with having removed all karma, the soul that is without any karmic  
burden is the  
ONE INFINITE UNIVERSAL SOUL.
 
Cheers and love to all. 
Ashanka 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:10:39 +0200 (METDST) 
From: Stephane Marconi <marconiATnospamschp5.unige.ch> 
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Love 
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.970624120823.21595A-100000ATnospamschp5> 
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why are you equating love with specialness?
 
stefan.
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Sunil R Peswani wrote:
 
>  
> 	I have never liked the word love. 
> 	If you love someone you love others less. 
> 	Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per  
> 		definition of God given by everyone. 
> 	Why am i different from majority? 
> 			ram 
>  
>  
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:50:48 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Lake 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970624154016.18221C-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
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 All animal souls are in a pool of lake. 
 When a foetus is formed in mother"s womb, and an old human soul  
is not ready for rebirth, than this place is filled by astral energy from  
this pool for evolution. 
 Human soul retains his indivituality birth by birth till it  
learns higher lessons of evolution of Unity by SERVICE and SACRIFICE. 
 It starts with all the animal instincts of SURVIVAL and SELFISHNESS 
and has to change to UNITY. 
 Again this goes in another LAKE which is called BUDDHIC plane. 
 This is what Hindu and Bhuddhic philosophies say. 
  ram 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:20:30 +0200 (METDST) 
From: Stephane Marconi <marconiATnospamschp5.unige.ch> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Love 
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.970624121953.21637A-100000ATnospamschp5> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
why are you equating love with specialness?
 
stefan
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Sunil R Peswani wrote:
 
>  
> 	I have never liked the word love. 
> 	If you love someone you love others less. 
> 	Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per  
> 		definition of God given by everyone. 
> 	Why am i different from majority? 
> 			ram 
>  
>  
Date: 24 Jun 97 12:01:09  
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Risposta: Love 
Message-Id: <9706241108.AA9104ATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
Content-Type: Text/Plain
 
--- ram wrote ----
 
> I have never liked the word love. 
> If you love someone you love others less. 
> Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per  
>  definition of God given by everyone. 
> Why am i different from majority? 
>   ram
 
 
Everything we do we do for love. Maybe the manifestation is local to specific  
persons 
or objects but it is a part of that Infinite love of God to all creation. Even  
the love of gold 
for the thieves is that same love in a distorted form.
 
Because we are all equal (not merely for God, but for everybody) God loves us  
infinitely. 
If you divide infinity you will still get infinity. There is no limit to God's  
love. 
 
Maybe the word love you refer to is the limited love one tends to observe  
around. But God is  
love ... infinite love. 
 
You are unique, not only different from majority, but different from any human  
ever born to date 
and any human that will ever be born. Your life has no parallel. Try and see if  
anyone else has 
had a life identical to yours ! There isn't and there will never ever be. Your  
soul (good old soul) 
is however the same as that in everyone else and everythign else. When that is  
realised 
then pure infinite love eminates.....
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:58:36 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Ego 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970624155105.18221D-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
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 I love EGO. 
 Ego can be bad or good but all egoes are beautiful. 
 Ego is like a tree, bigger it is , greater fruit will it bring  
for God of Evolution. 
 Bad ego is like a dry limb of the tree, sooner or later it will  
break away from the tree after giving it lot of swings. Faster will it  
teach the tree not to grow dry limbs. 
 So man grow your egoes by hard work and effort but let it be Ego  
which moves towards Unity of Life. 
 So again I differ. 
 ram
 
 
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