1997/06/15  10:18  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #275 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 275
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: WOW 
  The times they are a-changin'? 
  Re: help with a definition ..... 
  Chakras 
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:56:57 -0500 
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: BIHAG LALAJI <bihagATnospamgiasbm01.vsnl.net.in> 
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: WOW 
Message-ID: <33A2A329.3D22ATnospamprodigy.net> 
 
BIHAG LALAJI wrote: 
>  
> hello Flute 
>  
> Kindly let me have the details of the site. I would definately love to 
> chat with with you. Incidently We in India are 5 and half hours before 
> GMT. Pl tell me what time you will be available on the site. 
>  
> With Love and light 
>  
> Bihag 
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I sent the information to the Listserver and hopefullly our list 
mistress will be posting it.. but jut in case it doesn't go into the 
listserver (hope I didn't cause her a program problems)  
check out the website 
http://www.mirabilis.com/download.html
 
Love, 
flute 
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 12:28:17 -0700 
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com> 
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: The times they are a-changin'? 
Message-ID: <33A2F0D1.7BB1E77FATnospamsirius.com> 
 
Dan RF clarified - 
 
> Yes, the recent quote of: 
> "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate..." 
> Is from Nelson Madela's Inauguration speech - he was quoting Marianne 
> Williamson. 
> Dan-RF
 
Dan: thx for that info.
 
Ed Jason: no nit picking intended. 
 
All: Does it not say a lot that _some_ heads of state, at least, are 
saying things like that in actual politcal discourse? Pretty inspiring, 
that fact.
 
Paul 
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:03:01 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: help with a definition ..... 
Message-ID: <970614170300_-1228123610ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
 
Does anyone know the word Ethasha or have you ever heard that name???
 
this is of great importance to me 
if anyone can help 
e-mail right away 
thanks
 
-the final peace completes the whole 
-doug 
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 13:33:47 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: genius-LATnospamnewciv.org, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: Chakras 
Message-ID: <33A451AB.2F71ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Ideas of an achievable goal are in the main created as a means to 
growth not as a reality in themselves. The idea of chakras as actual 
centers having objective existence is not helped by the various numbers 
of these, used by different systems. These centers are opened usually in 
a linear order but not exclusively. The actual reason for focus on 
internal and external deities, colours, sounds, points of energy etc. is 
because these help to amplify various experiences that the individual is 
undergoing.  
 The idea of identity dependent on cosmic reality is as nonsensical as 
the idea of the independent universe. It is ourselves who are the cause 
of our own existence.  Similarly the idea of an eventual resting is 
based on the need for a conclusive answer. The experience of absorption 
in pure being does not make the individual pure being just as the 
thought of a unicorn is not a unicorn. Even a real unicorn is a 
subjective reality.  
 The only thing we can say about an ultimate is that it does not exist. 
Change is a certainty and certainty is open to change. People need to 
realize that the finite is the cause of the infinite. They try to reach 
an end point on a circle, wondering why they are always travelling. It 
is the realisation of change and the acceptance of transition that is a 
form of realisation. You do not arrive but become aware that arrival and 
departure are part of travelling. In this sense there is nowhere to go 
that you have not been. 
 
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Darkness was hidden in darkness.  ... 
Only that God who sees in highest heaven: he only knows whence comes 
this universe, and whether it was made or uncreated. He only knows, or 
perhaps he knows not. 
Rig Veda x. 129 
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Abandon false ideas 
that is all 
there is no need of true ideas 
there aren't any 
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All search for happiness is misery 
pleasure puts you to sleep and pain wakes you up
 
Nisagadatta Maharaj (I AM THAT) translated by Maurice Frydman 
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E Jason
 
 
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