1997/06/06  09:29  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #265 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 265
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Hathic question 
  Re: electricity 
  Re: electricity 
  Re: electricity 
  Re: computer interference 
  Re: kriyas 
  Re: Kriyas 
  Re: <<<<<Similarities 
  Re: electricity 
  Re: electricity 
  Re: Kriyas 
  crucial consciousness 
  (no subject) 
  Birthday 
  Re: Electric 
  Blocks and cleansing 
  Re: crucial consciousness 
  80 page notes 
  Re: electricity 
  SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) 
  Re: Risposta: Kriyas 
  Risposta: Kriyas 
  Re: SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) 
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 16:39:48 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Hathic question 
Message-Id: <M.060597.113948.17ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Frank 
     Having done sun salutations myself, one thing that my yoga teacher always  
said, was that one should never strain to achieve any asana , to the point of  
shaking, or stressing, and that Hatha yoga was not meant to be an endurance  
contest , nor a competative sport. In bending backwards, many westerners have  
problems with the lower 5 vertebrae. My teacher always told me, to go as far  
back as I could while still remaining relaxed in the asana(posture), and to  
listen to the mind as the observer, taking note of how it would try to limit me  
by telling me that I could not do this, and would hurt myself. I would respond  
to the dialog of the mind, and the fear it was trying to plant, with one word  
"trust", and then with a breath I would consciuosly send light and relaxation  
to the area being stressed while holding the posture, but without holding it  
for too long. This is how I would get past some of the asana blocks, within  
myelf. I hope that this has helped you in some way. 
     Also about Tumo fire, which is another name for Kundalini fire, in the  
wrong (unprepared) hands, its effects can be devastating. I know my  
explaination of it to you might be somewhat abridged, but this is because, I  
would not want to recommend any method of attempting to produce the tumo energy  
effect, without being in the presence of a teacher or guru, who can help you  
push the kundalini back down and realign it into the proper channel if  
something should go wrong, and it should become misdirected. If you would like  
to read about the effects of misdirected, or undirected kundalini please refer  
to the works of Gopi Krishna. His early works tell of how excruciating it can  
be to go through misdirected kundalini alone. I am sorry, I hope that you did  
not think I was giving you some sort of patten answer! But not knowing your  
circumstances, or surroundings, I would not want the karma for possibly giving  
a machine gun to a child to play with. I am not implying that you are a child,  
I am only saying that I would not give out such information over the net,as it  
could do more harm than good. I hope that you will understand. 
   Lindewey 
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 16:40:33 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-Id: <M.060597.114033.93ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Asking some questions might be helpful! 
   Am I going through some sort of consistent heavy mental or emotional  
trip? 
   Am I part of a powerful belief system that I feel forced to remain in  
, even though I intuit that I no longer belong there? 
   Is someone near or around me, with an unusually powerful  
personality,or possibly a heavily addicted personality, going through a  
traumatic experience, like a death experience? Could they be drawing energy  
away from me? 
   What is really frightening me right now? 
   Am I too; tired, hungry, lonely or angry? 
If there is nothing here to contribute to a possible leeching effect going on,  
than the dream about polarity is appropriate, and then one can begin to explore  
one's polarity, and upon what level of polarity the changes need take place. A  
good healer is very much helpful in these matters. 
 Lindewey 
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 16:42:44 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-Id: <M.060597.114244.21ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Asking some questions might be helpful! 
   Am I going through some sort of consistent heavy mental or emotional  
trip? 
   Am I part of a powerful belief system that I feel forced to remain in  
, even though I intuit that I no longer belong there? 
   Is someone near or around me, with an unusually powerful  
personality,or possibly a heavily addicted personality, going through a  
traumatic experience, like a death experience? Could they be drawing energy  
away from me? 
   What is really frightening me right now? 
   Am I too; tired, hungry, lonely or angry? 
If there is nothing here to contribute to a possible leeching effect going on,  
than the dream about polarity is appropriate, and then one can begin to explore  
one's polarity, and upon what level of polarity the changes need take place. A  
good healer is very much helpful in these matters. 
 Lindewey 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Karen Blackford <krbATnospamumich.edu> 
To: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.94.970605125623.12271B-100000ATnospam[141.211.72.9]> 
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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net wrote:
 
> Asking some questions might be helpful! 
>           Am I going through some sort of consistent heavy mental or emotional  
> trip? 
>           Am I part of a powerful belief system that I feel forced to remain in  
> , even though I intuit that I no longer belong there? 
>           Is someone near or around me, with an unusually powerful  
> personality,or possibly a heavily addicted personality, going through a  
> traumatic experience, like a death experience? Could they be drawing energy  
> away from me?
 
Yes, I'm a parent!  Children are energy sponges, and I do notice that I 
feel better when my son is gone for a few days (he's 10).
 
But I think the dream has to do with a physical condition of losing 
energy from the electromagnetic field. 
The technicians in the dream talked about Faraday units (measures of 
electromagnetic fields).  I had to look it up, it's not a part of my 
conscious vocabulary.  I did polarity work with a massage therapist for a 
bit,but felt I was losing energy; felt better when I stopped. Perhaps she 
was an energy leech?  
 Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
 
Karen 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU> 
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com> 
Cc: SANDYLRANATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: computer interference 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970605135729.22334A-100000ATnospamturbo.kean.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
'feels like samadhi'...which samadhi?....it's been a long time but i  
believe there are seven discernable levels....
 
or, does it really matter samadhi is samadhi....
 
dennis 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:07:31 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU> 
To: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
Cc: Stephane Marconi <marconiATnospamschp5.unige.ch>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: kriyas 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970605140431.22334B-100000ATnospamturbo.kean.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
you state it well..."the kundalini energy is an intelligent energy that  
won't hurt you".....an execellent description
 
dennis 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:22:47 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU> 
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Kriyas 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970605141211.22334E-100000ATnospamturbo.kean.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
my source is unreliable...so i'll paraphase...Kriya is techniques used in  
Kundalini yoga to produce an altered state of consciousness...the  
technique can be mediation or an excerise or both. different kriyas  
are supposed to produce differnt effects/affects on the persons being....
 
yea, can anyone out there come up with the ROOT of this word....is it  
Sanskrit?  i'll have to do some checking this weekend see if any of my  
books at home have any further mentions of the word....
 
dennis 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU> 
To: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Similarities 
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970605155759.27167B-100000ATnospamturbo.kean.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
i too had a tail bone injury...
 
dennis 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:06:15 -0400 
From: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com 
To: krbATnospamumich.edu 
Cc: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-ID: <19970605.162152.3182.3.esberk1ATnospamjuno.com>
 
Karen:  I find this very interesting!!!!!    
I have noticed the same thing my self lately.   When I go to 
the DoJo for light energy.  I come away washed in light.  Feel 
like I have been on vacation for two months. Sometimes like 
I have left the location.  When I happen 
to be in the radius of others...without being "aware" of it... 
I either am...exhausted... or...."filled".....  I have began to 
"take notice" and place grids around my self, home, etc. 
I have also "noticed" that music and thoughts in MY head 
do the same.  So.... last week when I was thinking Strong 
thoughts...and my computer shut down....I became "Aware" 
of my thoughts..... and centered on my breadth. 
It seems as if...the Universe is teaching me to center.  Do you 
experience the same? 
I also have a daughter...so I completely understand what you 
are saying about the energy loss.  I have "noticed" that when 
I am  centered and there are not a lot of thought patterns 
I am not so drained.  I have even started to "go to my room" 
for short periods and focus on....angels...mine in particular.... 
or.... light,  etc.. and I recharge real easily. 
I read something this morning that said we are affected by 
the energy for a 1/2 mile radius.  Living in Washington DC 
that becomes a real interesting statement!! 
Sincerely 
Doreen 
 Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Karen Blackford <krbATnospamumich.edu> 
writes: 
>					 
> 
>On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net wrote: 
> 
>> Asking some questions might be helpful! 
>>           Am I going through some sort of consistent heavy mental or  
>emotional  
>> trip? 
>>           Am I part of a powerful belief system that I feel forced  
>to remain in  
>> , even though I intuit that I no longer belong there? 
>>           Is someone near or around me, with an unusually powerful  
>> personality,or possibly a heavily addicted personality, going  
>through a  
>> traumatic experience, like a death experience? Could they be drawing  
>energy  
>> away from me? 
> 
>Yes, I'm a parent!  Children are energy sponges, and I do notice that  
>I 
>feel better when my son is gone for a few days (he's 10). 
> 
>But I think the dream has to do with a physical condition of losing 
>energy from the electromagnetic field. 
>The technicians in the dream talked about Faraday units (measures of 
>electromagnetic fields).  I had to look it up, it's not a part of my 
>conscious vocabulary.  I did polarity work with a massage therapist  
>for a 
>bit,but felt I was losing energy; felt better when I stopped. Perhaps  
>she 
>was an energy leech?  
> Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. 
> 
>Karen 
> 
> 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:20:31 -0400 
From: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com 
To: krbATnospamumich.edu 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-ID: <19970605.162152.3182.4.esberk1ATnospamjuno.com>
 
Could it be that during the polar shift that is taking place 
our energy centers....are changing????  Everyone I know including myself 
is complaining about this.   I have started to 
sleep by 9pm and wake before sunrise with an afternoon 
nap!!!!!!  Just to let the change take place.  Drink """TONS" of 
water....eat salt by the pound and walk and exercise like never 
before.   Seem like I do not have much time for anything else. 
Otherwise....the changes that are taking place overwhelm me. 
I have also noticed  that my body needs a lot more quiet time 
and meditation.   I suspect that the energy shifts in polarity due 
to the Harmonic Energy Convergence is affecting our systems 
in some way.  It "FEELS"  like I am getting lighter and lighter 
and lighter.... like...slowly  t-u-r-n-i-n-g  back into light? 
I hope you do not think I am crazy.l I would not tell this to anyone else 
except this list!!  I have also noticed that my system 
....ha ha....seems to want rabbit food and water, nuts and the like.  
....for me....this is a miracle!!!!!!  In the past year and a half 
my body has dropped serious weight and I seem to crave a 
really quiet simple life.  Which for me.....is another miracle! 
Have also noticed that I am attracting new friends who are 
very much like me and experiencing much of the same changes. 
When they  call, my spirit jumps with joy.....as if I am coming 
into contact with soul relatives????? Perhaps an incarnated 
family?????????  I knew...this would sound strange.  I really do 
not have a handle on it yet.  I do suspect that it is all interrelated.
 
Sincerely   Doreen 
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Karen Blackford <krbATnospamumich.edu> 
writes: 
>All this talk about electricity reminds me of a dream I had last  
>February.   
>My "car" (vehicle=body) was parked in a parking ramp and wouldn't  
>start. 
>Mechanics came and told me that I had to "reverse the polarity."  In 
>waking life, I've experienced persistent low energy--my batteries are  
>dead 
>feeling, and also seem to get zapped constantly.  One day I got a  
>shock 
>from every item I picked up at the grocery store.  A memorable trip! I  
>saw 
>my doctor last week for fatigue related problems and mentioned this 
>phenomenon.  He just shrugged.  I feel like I'm bleeding energy  
>somehow, 
>constantly depleting my internal batteries.  Does anyone have any  
>thoughts 
>on what's happening here?	 
> 
> 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:46:34 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kriyas 
Message-ID: <970605164630_1786887909ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
 
I have heard of something called Kriya Yoga...are these what it consists of? 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:42:05 +0100 
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: crucial consciousness 
Message-ID: <oURPfgA9hwlzEw4OATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
 
we are reaching a crucial point in consciousness when things can get 
very confused and intense for the pathfinders as they encounter 
deepseated resistance - thus the unique value of the list and its 
ability to hold up a mirror to our true selves and our place within the 
whole - u better believe it friends, it is really happening, this is the 
evolutionary bottleneck everyone has been talking about 
 
as we reach critical mass 
things can both very beautiful and very ugly 
we must love one another or die......
 
sit in the Sun 
let the Light do the work 
let the goddess take the strain 
and let the Heart come alive.....
 
ho hum
 
resistance is futile once you're caught in the crucible of shakti 
role on the silver dawn of the awakening spirit
 
another mantra for the dawn
 
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH 
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH 
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH
 
Yogi Tom
 
--  
Tom Aston 
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 21:39:41 -0500 
From: "Walter C. Smith" <wcsmithATnospamdns1.ci.chi.il.us> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: (no subject) 
Message-ID: <3397786D.2947ATnospamci.chi.il.us> 
 
unsubscribe kundalini-l 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:04:25 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Birthday 
Message-Id: <199706060304.UAA15657ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
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Aren't we due for the first birthday of our dear K list?  Anyone know the 
original date?  It was last June sometime, right?         M 
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:13:00 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Electric 
Message-ID: <33978E4C.293EATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Dan wrote:
 
> Hi David, 
>         A lot of variables here. Depends on what the 'meter' was set up to 
> read. Voltage, current, resistance, AC or DC. You are variable, too. 
> Depending on your electrolyte balance, relative water balance, even your 
> height!
 
In an article in the "Noetic Sciences" it states Qi Gong masters'
 
claim that they can modulate AC current, from any common source
 
such as a wall socket.
 
The author says he witnessed a master grab two live wires, and
 
light a light bulb by touching it with other fingers from both hands,
 
regulate the voltage with will, and not suffer from electrocution.
 
(I should hope not, otherwise stick with the lamp method.)
 
The author's colleague's muscles went into spasm when touched by
 
the master. Whether he went into spasm or not was controlled by
 
the master.
 
The author allowed the master to touch him for a second and said
 
he did indeed feel "live."
 
For the final demonstration the master grabbed the wires along with two
 
skewers in each hand, stuck them into a pork chop which began
 
to smoke and flame.(Now I'm hungary)
 
No damage to the master's skin or severe heart irregularity or
 
seizure.
 
The author was David Eisenberg, MD who is interested in conducting
 
controlled studies for this phenomena.
 
The healing potentials are the underlying reason for practicing Qi Gong,
 
(not cooking pork chops).
 
Anyway, thought this was interesting. 
I'm reserving judgment.
 
David 
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 11:32:40 -0700 
From: Irmansyah Effendi <ieffendiATnospamsig.net.id> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Blocks and cleansing 
Message-ID: <339857C8.181FATnospamsig.net.id> 
 
Dear folks:
 
I joined the list last month because of the stress of energy at my neck  
and head.  After doing excercises recommended by some people on list, I  
felt much better.  I do have questions: 
1. After doing cleaning, it feels much cleaner.  But,blocks are back the  
next day!. 
2. There is a block in my spine at the back of my solar plexus which come  
and go every day.  How to remove it?. 
3. Last week, when I did cleaning on my neck and head, I felt like I was  
pulling some threads or roots from there?.  Why is it like  
threads/roots?.  What is it?
 
Well, someone may have posted it sometime ago.  But, I have gone over  
every mail from the beginning of May and could not find any answer.   
Would someone be kindly enough to tell me the answer again?
 
With love and light to everyone,
 
Irmansyah 
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 22:55:49 
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: crucial consciousness 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970605225549.39cf795cATnospammail.eskimo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>as we reach critical mass 
>things can both very beautiful and very ugly 
>we must love one another or die......
 
Although I am sure humans have reached critical mass before... 
(The most immediate thing which comes to mind is speech) 
Probably though they were not *conscious* of the critical mass effect.
 
I wonder if humans have ever reached a critical mass for 
anything as consciously as the current events we are experiencing. 
The internet allows for a more direct connection and hence a bigger 
explosion when the critical mass arrives.
 
In some ways it seems that consciousness adds an extra dimension 
to critical mass.  An exponential explosion.
 
And kundalini-- or as I think of it-- the flow of energy through 
the body becomes yet another method of relating to another... 
not just through speech, but through conscious energy.
 
Where will it go from here? 
In light, 
ori^
 
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:51:58 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamvsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Cc: Irmansyah Effendi <ieffendiATnospamsig.net.id> 
Subject: 80 page notes 
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 I had left the idea of sending my diary , as the computer was not  
cooperating and hence took that as indication that these ideas may be  
premature. 
 I had also talked of inner voice . Later on I felt that in Sufi  
system ANHAD and in Hindu sant and Sikh sant system SHABAD also is known  
as inner voice though I felt that it should be inner music. 
 There were many such words which meant different things in  
different systems. This left a lot of ground for misunderstanding. So I  
beleive that I should wait and lurk around. 
 When I would go in meditation I would put a question before me  
and always I would get answer inside my mind. The answer would definately  
be not product of my own sub conscious. The answer that I got five years  
back would fit in scheme of things even today after I have gone thro  
thousands of more questions put forward in my mind. The answer would fit  
in from many many directions.  
 Main theme is: 
  ULTIMATE GOD IS GOD OF EVOLUTION. 
  IT IS BECOMING THRO LIFE OF YOU AND ME AND US. 
  IT IS UNBECOMING BECAUSE IT HAS NOT REACHED THE CENTER WHERE 
  TIME AND SPACE DISAPPEAR COMPLETELY DISAPEAR. 
  GOD OF EVOLUTION CAME UP INSPITE OF DESTRUCTIVE NATURE  
  WITH EFFORT AND PAIN. 
  WHEN SOME LIFE SURRENDERS HIS EGO TO HIGHER EGO , HE GOES  
  IN JOY, BLISS OR ECASTECY DEPENDING UPON SPEED OF SURRENDER. 
  IT BECOMES THE JOB OF HIGHER EGO TO CARRY FURTHER TILL  
  LIFE EGO MERGES IN ME (God of Evolution) 
  ALL LIFE UNITES AS IT GOES UP PLANE BY PLANE. 
  THE UNION OF LIFE CREATES TRANSDENCE AND LIFE GOES TO  
  HIGHER PLANE WHICH IS LIKE  PROCESS OF CREATING WHITE HOLE 
  WHICH IS OPPOSITE OF BLACK HOLE WHICH SCIENTISTS HAVE  
  OBSERVED IN SPACE. 
  BEFORE MOKSH LIFE LEAVES ANGER HATRED FEAR JEALOUSY WHICH  
  DISUNITE THE LIFE. 
  BEFORE NIRVANA IT LEAVES LOVE BHAKTI COMPASSION  SHRADA 
  WISDOM IN BUDDHIC PLANE TO HELP THE EVOLUTION. 
  LIFE CARRIES ONLY CREATIVENESS BEYOND NIRVANA. 
  ULTIMATE AIM OF GOD OF EFOLUTION IS TO REACH SUNIATA. 
  SUNIATA HAS TREMONDOUS POWER OF VIBERATIONS. 
  WHOLE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION IS TO CONVERT MATTER INTO  
  VIBERATIONS THRO THE PROCESS OF LIFE. 
  HUMAN LIFE CONVERTS MATTER AND ENERGY INTO PART  
  VIBERATIONS BY THE PROCESS OF THOUGHT.  
ram 
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 97 13:16:30 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: electricity 
Message-Id: <M.060697.081630.87ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Karen 
     Michael Faraday was an 18 or 19th century physicist who studied the  
effects of electricity, and magnetism on living beings, among other things. He  
invented something called a Faraday cage, which is a metalic grid dampening  
field. It totally stops the transmission of energy of just about any kind from  
penetrating in either direction ( in to out, and out to in). It might be  
helpful to look up the principles of its construction, and take that into your  
body, to see how they can help you with this energy loss problem. 
     Lindewey 
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:04:08 -0400 
From: PaulATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) 
Message-Id: <E0wZzce-0003eR-00ATnospamiglou1>
 
Ok, guys, here's the problem.  Here in Louisvillewe are having very 
strange weather.  Even though today is June 6, it has been raining and 
unseasonably cool--15 to 20 degrees below normal--and my mood SUCKS OUT 
THE %&$xx!  I find myself depressed, sad, needy, lonely, "all hope is 
lost..." and would like to know how people on this list counter the 
thoughts that generally arise during moments like these.  I just read a 
quote from Gurumayi who said to meditate and let the fire of yoga burn it 
away.  I'm trying to counter my thoughts with affirmations during 
meditations and would like to know other techniques other people on this 
list use, particularly if anyone uses aroamatherapy.
 
Thanks for all your help!
 
Paul 
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:36:05 -0400 (EDT) 
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Risposta: Kriyas 
Message-ID: <970606103405_272028871ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
 
>wherein you completely give yourself up to the energy within. 
 
This, however, is like saying "feel into the universal love which is you and 
thus become enlightened".  If you already can do it, it's relatively easy, if 
you've never done it before it's almost impossible.
 
I suggest using a combination of free form dance and free form tai chi/kung 
fu.  No need to perfect the styles, just start moving and go with the flow, 
let your body tell you where and how it wants to move.  Once you can start 
letting you subconcious/prana tell you how to move, you can start doing free 
form hatha yoga, create your own mantras, ect.  I firmly believe that this 
type of "Kriyas" yoga is one of the fastest, most powerful ways to open up to 
the energy, but is also hard to learn.  Like discribing how to ride a bike in 
a letter, one thing to say it, another thing to actually do it.
 
I'm very interested in how others learn/learned to enter into the Kriyas 
"trance".  I think I discovered it by a combination of drugs and tai chi, a 
method I strongly suggest against for others, breaking the habits and 
learning a pure way is almost harder than learning naturally from scratch. 
 It shames me when I realize I'm being slow witted or "stupid" because of the 
damage I've done to my brain.  When you loose a peice of your memory, you 
can't remeber it, you can't judge how much you've lost till it's too late.
 
Bliss and rapture
 
:) 
Aaron 
Date:  6 Jun 97  9:29:36  
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Risposta: Kriyas 
Message-Id: <9706061600.AA0119ATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
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Hi,
 
Think this message has already been posted once before, (not sure though, with  
all these incidences of electronics not linking the K-energy!!).
 
The explanation is as given below : 
 
 
Hello all,
 
----------------ori^ wrote ----------------- 
>Would be interesting to know the origin of the word kriya. 
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In Sanskrit the root word "Kri" means activity or action. From this is derived  
the word "Karya" in Hindi denoting action. 
>From this is also derived the Sanskrit word "karma" which means dutiful action  
- or the effect of our action on us. 
 
Kriya yoga technique is the latest of the many yoga techniques wherein you  
completely give yourself up to the energy within. No need to assume postures or  
any mental activity. The energy will manifest itself through you in the maner  
best suited to you. This is because each of us come to this life with a host of  
pervious impressions and "karmas". So in this the body could automatically  
assume hatha yoga postures, can vibtrate, spin around, get heated or anything  
else. These are done to tune the body to be able to fully minifest the infinite  
energy in us and remind us that we are not the weak earth-clinging little homo  
sapiens, but a spark of the universal divine energy. We are indeed made in the  
image of God as has been asserted by the Bible and the Vedas alike.
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:28:04 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: PaulATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) 
Message-Id: <199706061628.LAA04848ATnospamdfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
 
I just read a 
>quote from Gurumayi who said to meditate and let the fire of yoga burn  
it 
>away.  I'm trying to counter my thoughts with affirmations during 
>meditations and would like to know other techniques other people on  
this 
>list use, particularly if anyone uses aroamatherapy. 
> 
>Thanks for all your help! 
> 
>Paul 
> 
> 
When I feel stuck in sadness, sometimes I find it much more useful not  
to resist it but rather to go in and through it.  Some of the Buddhists  
like Joko Beck and Pema Chodron write about this.  I might meditate on  
the physical sensations of sadness as I experience them in my body or  
perhaps understand that the sadness is not necessarily personal to me.   
Not infrequently being very present with it breaks through to expanded  
consciousness which then of course gives meaning to the whole thing and  
takes me out of myself.  Hope this is useful.  Holly
 
 
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