1997/06/04  07:03  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #263 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 263
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Do not think of an elephant 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
  Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
  Re: computer interference 
  Re: my aura story 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
  Re: nice story 
  Re: Teeths and spines.... 
  Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
  kriyas 
  <<<<< 
  #Synergy-June 4 
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 07:52:09 
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Do not think of an elephant 
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>Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 07:51:11 
>To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>Subject: Re: Do not think of an elephant 
>In-Reply-To: <33942EDE.757ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
> 
> 
>>--------------- 
>snip>>>>>>The teaching of the Upanishads is that the Atman is located in the 
>>center of the heart,.>>>>>>snip This is beyond sphere of mind, also beyond 
>>heart, for soul of itself can attune itself to anything and everything 
>>that 
>>is.>>>>>>snip 
>> 
>>  Dear Lobster, 
> 
>It is said that the sphere of the mind, beyond the heart is called the 
"sky of the atman" and the rishis and yogis of India also see this a "type" 
of heart energy as well.(located in the third eye) 
> 
>In the Guru Gita, a Puranic Text, it is said: 
> 
>that god exists beyond what is known as Nada, Bindu, and Kalatitam. 
> 
>Nada being the primordial vibration of this Universe 
>Bindu being point of origination 
>Kalatitam being the beyond the beyond concept....the concept that our 
minds can not fathom this beyond except thru spiritual text, inference, and 
experience. 
>  
>It also says we can not get "it"  JUST thru text, or JUST thru inference, 
or even JUST thru experience  ...its a combination thing.... 
>so that ATMAN can really only be fathomed in this beyond...beyond thing... 
>In the vedas there is a great vendantic statement.....said to sum up the 
entire universe..."Neti Neti" meaning "Not This , Not This"....so our 
experience is what we "Know where god is NOT"...if we put neti neti to the 
things of our lives we can perceive a glimmer of gods love...( by 
discriminating where god IS NOT) .... this  is the clear shining 
place...the atman...this Heart and the Sky of the Heart...this entire 
universe...smaller than the smallest....greater than the greatest.  
> 
>Thank-you for the opportunity to share this, 
>Love on the Path,  
>Melissa/Shubha/Ganesha               
>> 
>> 
>> 
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith 
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing 
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035
 
Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith 
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspa/mss.html
 
e-mail: 
ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com
 
IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha 
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 02:41:07 -1000 (HST) 
From: Karen Roethel <kroethelATnospamgensym.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199706031241.CAA29805ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
HELP!
 
Last year in Boston I started partaking in your conversations about the "K". I shared my past experiences with you all and expressed the great happiness I had achieve after 7 years of misery. Here's the problem.
 
About a year ago in Boston I started having like anxiety attacks...which seem to be earthquake related (earth sensitive), but the symptoms are worsening. For the last year I have been experiencing down-pours of sweat in my arm pits and hot flashes along with a quick temper. It's driving me crazy....could it be the K or menapause...my birthday is next Sunday, June 8th and I'll be the big 40. A few people over the years claim I have the hands of a healer and I'm not using my gift. I'm very confused....I know a tremendous change is about to occur in my life. I'm keeping the faith, for I have always prided myself in knowing who and what I am and able to access the universal ring of knowledge except in this situation. Can someone shed some light here. 
 
Karen 
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:06:18 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
Message-ID: <970603100449_-629753952ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
 
hi, peggy, i loved that book, too, when i read it.
 
i imagine there is more that must be done than to merely BE among the people 
and their problems, in order to develop spiritually.  otherwise, everyone in 
my neighborhood would be a guru--we've got it all:  gangs, drugs, violence, 
poverty, racial tension---what more could you ask for?  starhawk even admits 
it is a little easier to attune in her wilderness retreat. i sometimes feel 
overly blessed with challenges!! 
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 11:45:45 -0700 
From: "Daniel L. Rusch-Fischer" <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
Message-ID: <33946659.6CD6ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  
> Coincidentally, I had just put down a copy of "Music of the Spheres" by Guy 
> Murchie, when I read the "Whachamacallit" post by Dan-RF.  I don´t know how 
> to "snip" the email text, but Dan´s description of visions of the bubbling 
> universe was the same thing I had just been reading.  The physicists and 
> astronomers used terms a tad more technical the "Jacuzzi-like," but it´s the 
> same idea:  that matter in the universe is enabled by fundamental turbulence. 
>  I picked up the book because it discusses underlying principles of both the 
> microcosm and the macrocosm. (Dan is apparently seeing both.)
 
Peggy, 
 This is absolutely cool!!! I don't understand exactly what you're 
talking about here, but I figured that my imagination was spinning out 
of control (probably was) and then you step in and put a groundwork of 
physics to it - neat! I wish Peter Norton were posting, you would get 
along famously. He is bigtime into the same concepts - does microtubules 
ring a bell? 
 Thanks for the validation, 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:52:55 -0400 (EDT) 
From: SANDYLRANATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: computer interference 
Message-ID: <970603224904_1890082698ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
 
Well thanks guys for the getting all my machinery and equipment to pick up on 
these posts....in the past two days....the electrical system in my vehicle 
has been really screwy......If I try to dial my cell phone it goes dead....my 
son picked it up today not knowing the problem and dialed and talked to his 
friend for ten minutes....I tried...and :::::::::bong:::::::...My computer 
just quit responding to my touch on the keyboard as well as my 
calculator...damdist thing I ever saw.....
 
Went to let some new people into an office and slightly waved my hand by the 
alarm pad...and the damn thing went off and in ten minutes found myself 
explaining to the local police....that I ain't done nothing!!!!  
 
hmmmmm.....maybe there is something to all this??? Wad ya think...there 
folks???
 
Sandy 
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:38:44 -0500 
From: heidi <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: my aura story 
Message-Id: <199706040338.WAA31827ATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
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>she ten said that she could see "the  
>spirit awakening" via my aura, as there was purple "hovering" above my 
head.  i  
>forgot about this for a while, but when i started reading stuff about k. i 
>realized  
>that i had experienced k. twice, or at least that's what i figure.  does 
the >purple  
>aura stuff ring a bell with anyone?
 
Wow! I've been wondering for the past three years why, when I close my eyes, 
there is this light purple colour hovering and moving around. I see it more 
clearly when it's dark and also see it with open eyes in a dark room. At 
times I see intense greens or blues, pinks or reds which glow all across my 
"vision" behind my eyelids. These colours usually alternate and there is  a 
small dot in their middle which looks like the pupil of an eye. If I 
concentrate on this "eye" it enlarges and brings in the next colour 
spreading radiantly across until I seem to bathe in its luminenscence.
 
Has this perhaps to do with our chakras?
 
Could anyone enlighten me ;) on this phenomenon? It does not sound like it 
is k. because instead of electrifying me, it just pleases me and I am 
content with this. Needless to say, I see the other colours only when I'm 
relaxed which I aim for daily by meditating my own way. The purple however, 
is always there now, relaxed or not.
 
I am fairly new on this list so perhaps this spectacle has been discussed 
1001 times already. If someone wouldn't mind bringing it up again?
 
Thank you
 
Am
 
  LIVING LIFE IN THE PRESENT MOMENT BUILDS A BEAUTIFUL PAST..... 
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 00:42:28 -0400 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: kroethelATnospamgensym.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <3393A026.37EDATnospambridge.net> 
 
HI Karen,
 
I got menopause symptoms when I was 38, I went to the doctor not knowing 
what it was and he said that it could not be it because I was too 
young.. I insisted after 3 years of hot flashes and night sweats, that 
he would take my blood for a test, and Voila! there was lack of "the 
hormones." 
I started taking them, and the symptoms got better. I took first the 
ones that doctors give and I did not like them, I got a bit heavier and 
when I found out that they were taken out of the urine of pregnant 
mares, that they keep pregnant all the time, and all the awful things 
they do to the baby horses... I stopped. Now I take "Triest". that I 
send for on an automatic delivery from the International Womens 
Pharmacy, and they mail them to me every month, they are natural.
 
 A year ago I got K awakening and this energy that goes up and down my 
head and face is similar to the hot flashes but much more intense, the 
mood swings are natural too, they are kriyas if you have K awakenign 
they come strong at the beginning. Do you meditate or follow your 
"sadhana" spiritual path or practice?
 
There are a lot of great wonderful women here on the list that can help 
you with these matters...menopause is a strange transformation for a 
woman if you start viewing it as an advancement instead of a 
deterioration. It focuses your energies into a more spiritual life, 
since the "desperation" of sex lessens...and you start accelerating your 
thoughts towards more "real and important" things, not so much the waste 
of time of "ego exhaltation." To me it started being tough out of 
ignorance, but now I am very happy about going through it.
 
In service of the light, 
Lissette 
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 01:05:13 -0400 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: nice story 
Message-ID: <3393A5B3.45F9ATnospambridge.net> 
 
Hi tom, 
I haven't heard from you for some time. Iv've missed you. 
I loooove your homepage, it is wonderful like you.
 
Love, 
Lissette
 
Here is a little nice story
 
 ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING 
 by Francie Baltazar-Schwartz 
 
  
 Jerry was the kind of guy you love to hate.  He was always in a good 
mood and always had something positive to say.  When someone asked him 
how he was doing, he'd reply, "If I were any better, I'd be twins!" 
 
 He was a unique manager because he had several waiters who had followed 
him around from restaurant to restaurant.  The reason the waiters 
followed Jerry was because of his attitude.  He was a natural motivator. 
 
 If an employee was having a bad day, Jerry was there telling the    
>> employee how to look on the positive side of the situation.  Seeing this  style made me curious, so one day I went up to Jerry and asked him, "I don't get it!  You can't be a positive person all of the time.  How do  you do it?"  Jerry replied, "Each morning I wake up and say to myself,    Jerry, you have two choices today.  You can choose to be in a good mood or you can choose to be in a bad mood."  I choose to be in a good mood.  Each time something bad happens, I can choose to be a victim or I can  choose to learn from it.  I choose to learn from it.  Every time someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to accept their complaining or I can point out the positive side of life.  I choose the positive side of life."  "Yeah, right, it's not that easy," I protested.  "Yes it is,"   Jerry said.  "Life is all about choices.  When you cut away all the junk, every situation is a choice.  You choose how you react to situations.   You choose how people will affect your mood.  Y! 
! 
! 
ou choose to be in a good mood or bad mood.  The bottom line:  It's your choice how you live life." 
 I reflected on what Jerry said.  Soon thereafter, I left the 
restaurant  industry to start my own business.  We lost touch, but often 
thought about him when I made a choice about life instead of reacting to 
it. 
  
 Several years later, I heard that Jerry did something you're never    
 supposed to do in a restaurant business:  he left the back door open 
one morning and was held up at gunpoint by three armed robbers.  While 
trying to open the safe, his hand, shaking from nervousness, slipped off 
the combination.  The robbers panicked and shot him.  
 Luckily, Jerry was found relatively quickly and rushed to the local 
trauma center.  After 18 hours of surgery and weeks of intensive care, 
Jerry was released from the hospital with fragments of the bullets still 
in his body. 
 
 I saw Jerry about six months after the accident.  When I asked him how 
he was, he replied, "If I were any better, I'd be twins.  Wanna see my 
scars?" I declined to see his wounds, but did ask him what had gone 
through his mind as the robbery took place. 
 
 "The first thing that went through my mind was that I should have 
locked the back door," Jerry replied.  "Then  as I lay on the floor, I 
remembered that I had two choices:  I could choose to live, or I could 
choose to die.  I chose to live.   
"Weren't you scared?  Did you lose consciousness?" I asked.  Jerry  
continued, "The paramedics were great. They kept telling me I was going 
to be fine.  But when they wheeled me into the emergency room and I saw 
the expressions on the faces of the doctors and nurses, I got really 
scared.  In their eyes  I read, "'He's a dead man.'"  "I knew I needed 
to take action."  "What did you do?" I asked. 
"Well, there was a big, burly nurse shouting  questions at me," said 
Jerry.  "She asked if I was allergic to anything.  
 "'Yes,'" I replied.  The doctors and nurses stopped working as they    
 waited for my reply.  I took a deep breath and yelled, "'Bullets!'"  
Over their laughter, I told them, "'I'm choosing to live.  Operate on me 
as if I'm alive, not dead.'"  Jerry lived thanks to the skill of his 
doctors,   but  also because of his amazing attitude.  I learned from 
him that every day we have the choice to live fully.  Attitude, after 
all, is everything. 
 
 You have two choices now:
 
 1.  Save and delete this mail from your mail box. 
 2.  Forward it to your dear ones (excluding me) and choose life.
 
 I hope you will select #2. 
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 01:53:28 -0400 (EDT) 
From: TPp40ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Teeths and spines.... 
Message-ID: <970604015326_-1698484170ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
 
 Hit so hard that your teeth mashed.  "Been there, done that, and bought the 
teashirt."  Thanks for the quote  :) 
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 01:53:34 -0400 (EDT) 
From: TPp40ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
Message-ID: <970604015331_420711350ATnospamemout18.mail.aol.com>
 
Ahmen 
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:03:26 +0200 (METDST) 
From: Stephane Marconi <marconiATnospamschp5.unige.ch> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: kriyas 
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.970604090206.5807A-100000ATnospamschp5> 
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hi everyone,
 
excuse my ignorance, but could someone develop what is understood by the 
word "kriyas".
 
thanks,
 
stefan. 
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 01:39:05 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<< 
Message-ID: <336C4B29.46D7ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
(k)ites, 
 Just a quick note to reiterate why my posts begin with their subject 
line with five less-than symbols. 
 1. To allow those without any interest in my ramblings to quickly and 
effectively delete them from their in-box. 
 2. To remind me five times that the insignificance of my posts to 
others is far outweighed by the therapeutic I receive by being able to 
share them with others.
 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF
 
BTW, the source of my tagline for those who are interested and may have 
missed it in my billions of words of prior verbiage. The love comes from 
my awakening ... before it I NEVER used the word in ANY correspondance 
to ANYONE, even my mother ... was too un-macho. And the LAUGHING LIGHT 
comes from the (typical in spontaneous awakenings - considered a hall 
mark) persistent humor, puns, etc. that would tumble out unexplainably 
and endlessly in my posts during my earlier stages ... while that 
spontaneously effusive (and to many baffling) humor is gone it persists 
in the background and I try to keep it there -- even in posts, that are 
on their face serious, there remains a scintillating, sparkling giggle 
behind them - rarely is it absent. =-) 
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 10:02:42 
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: #Synergy-June 4 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970604100242.559f357eATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com> 
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>Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 09:00:18 
>To: Kundalini list 
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>Subject: #Synergy-June 4 
> 
>>Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 08:56:59 
>>To: Maya_(Janice) 
>>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>>Subject: #Synergy-June 4 
>> 
>>Namaste to All 
>> 
>>This is to Announce a New Program the First Wed of Every Month in IRC 
Chat Channel # synergy   irc.superlink.net   
>>9:00pm edt 8:00pmcdt 7:00pm mdt 6:00pdt 
>> 
>>Opening the Akashic Record - Program includes, invocation, meditation, 
contemplation, opening akashic record, group collective channeling of 
material, 
>>group discussion, Closing prayer 
>> 
>>1st Program - June 4 - "Journey to Wholeness" 
>>Opening the Akashic Record on Mother Mary and the Holy Grail 
>> 
>>Facillitated by: Melissa Shubha Smith, REIKI Master aka Ganesha 
>>http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035 
>> 
>>All persons who are interested in Akashic Record Reading and Group 
Collective Energetic in this Powerful and Accelerated Medium to Heal and 
Understand  
>>events and times that impact our Spiritual Process are Welcome! :) 
>> 
>>other logs of Akashic Record Openings on #)Gaia*Friends( at: 
>>http://www.city-net.com/~arianna 
>> 
>>Logs of IRC #Synergy Events and Upcoming programs can be seen at: 
>>http://web.idirect.com/~innerspace/synergy.html 
>> 
>>To Learn about IRC ( Internet Relay Chat) and download mirc at: 
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspace/links.html#Chat 
>> 
>>We look forward and welcome you all! 
>>Special Thanks to Maya for Hosting the #Synergy Channel 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith 
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing 
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035
 
Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith 
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspa/mss.html
 
e-mail: 
ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com
 
IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha
 
 
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