1997/06/02  10:47  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #261 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 261
 
Today's Topics: 
  <<<<<Pacific '97 
  <<<<<To: weird 
  <<<<<Obsidian speaks 
  <<<<<Similarities 
  Re: <<<<<Synchronicity 
  <<<<<Whachamacallit 
  Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks 
  Teeths 
  Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore! 
  Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
  Re: Two Doctors Comment 
  computer interference 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 01:49:34 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<<Pacific '97 
Message-ID: <3392891E.242EATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
Hi y'all, 
 Well, I attended Pacific '97, the world philatelic exhibition. Karen 
filled in an amazingly large number of holes in her 
butterflies-on-stamps want list. She is getting to be quite a 
taxonomist/lepidopterist. Was 'happy as a clam when it ain't being dug 
for supper'.  =-) 
 I was concerned about how I would take the crowd and diversity. 
Psychical quantity and diversity can be overwhelming as I am not adept 
at this point at 'shutting out' the clamor (although, I have improved 
immensely over the past yea). 
 It went well and except for have sore feet from 8 hours of being on my 
feet, I thought nothing outre had occurred. That was MY POV. In 
discussing the events, Karen pointed out three interesting things that 
may or may not be k-related. 
 1. While at the Italian Postal Administration booth Karen swears that I 
had a prolonged discussion with the pleasant woman in attendance that 
she didn't understand. I was a bit baffled and explained that I was 
discussing the interesting fact that the Italians call butterflies, 
bowties and the crimped pasta by the same name: farfalle. The odd thing 
is, that the discussion was held in Italian (I don't speak Italian). 
 2. We took our son Jason who is ADHD along and he exhibited no symptoms 
whatsoever during the entire day; as a matter of fact during most of the 
time he sat quietly in the lounge reading a book. Karen noted that I on 
the other hand would start exhibiting k-kriyas whenever I was near him; 
I tend to not pay attention to them as they are a part of my daily life 
now (even during sleep). 
 3. Again, concerning Jason. Although, I lost my appetite for all meat 
(and even dairy products for many months) from the time of my awakening, 
Jason has demanded that he have large portions of heavily fat-laden meat 
for every meal; and although I am now moderately vegatarian (cheese & a 
little nonfat milk is OK) I have never been militant about it. 
 During the lunchtime we went to a Chinese servery and Jason ordered 
pork chow mein. He started to eat it, got a sickly look on his face, 
pushed it away and ask for some money to get something else. I gave him 
some, he trotted off, and when he came back he had an armload of FRUIT!
 
I suppose I am just stretching looking for k-konnections ... whaddya 
think? 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:02:24 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<<To: weird 
Message-ID: <33928C20.5E8DATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
Hello (k)ites; 
 Several of y'all have reported their computers misbehaving and have 
blamed k-energy. You all are nuts (macadamias, I think; my favorite =-)! 
 On the return recently of a member, I sent a terse message to them that 
read as follows: 
_____________________ 
You have changed ... or have I? 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
_____________________ 
 Don't ask the meaning (I get these weird urges and just act on them ... 
am just k-razy I guess). Anyway, I have the Auto-Blind-Copy to myself 
set and what came back was not what was sent ... instead, it read simply 
this: 
_____________________ 
You have changed 
_____________________ 
 I chalked it up to having done something wrong when I transmitted the 
email ... then the person wrote back asking about the cryptic message 
and quoted it exactly as the three words above. Again, I thought, 
"Whoops, must have done something odd when sending the message". Then it 
occurred to me that there is also a folder in my email called "Sent" 
which archive all my messages exactly as they were sent. I opened it up 
and voila, there is the entire message, signature line and all. 
 Does this qualify as a k-ueer event or is there a simpler explanation 
(did Occam EVER get a good shave)? BTW, the message sent was what I was 
thinking ... the message as written was an afterthought!
 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:44:36 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<<Obsidian speaks 
Message-ID: <33929604.405AATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
Dearest (k)ites, 
 A while ago I posted concerning an obsidian dagger that was found 
buried in an Indian mound in Wisconsin and came into my hands briefly 
and the channelled message that came from the experience of touching it. 
 I was asked to go back to it (mentally, I assumed since it was returned 
to the finder many years ago) and do some more psychometry on it. I have 
been reluctant as the original message was very disturbing when removed 
from the context of a belief system that wholeheartedly endorses human 
sacrifice. 
 Allowing myself to do so tonight, "the rest of the story" came forward. 
There was a second artifact and it 'unfolded' in another set of imagery. 
The black obsidian dagger spoke of containing the lifeforce of ten 
thousand warriors. From the same mound came an amulet. 
 It was flat, about an eighth-inch-thick, made of red and white banded 
agate, about three inches in height by two inches in width, polished to 
an absolute mirror finish with rounded corners. It had a semicircular 
groove incised around the exterior to receive a leather thong by which 
it was suspended. 
 The amulet belong to a powerful woman; she identified herself as Queen, 
Goddess, Mother, Whore, Lover, Demoness, Priestess. She sat in an 
incense-smoke-filled room with attendants chanting as she drew a 
thorn-studded cord through a hole in her tongue. She didn't cry out as 
droplets of blood began forming at the tip of her tongue; instead she 
seemed to be in a pythonic ecstacy and her arms and body writhed 
sinuously to the gutteral chants of the attendants. One of them held a 
woven reed basket filled with strips of paper to catch the falling drops 
of blood. As the droplets fell, they sparkled like the faceted eyes of 
the hummingbird god and when they struck the strips of paper were 
absorbed leaving them with the same striped appearance as the banded red 
and white amulet she wore around her neck. 
 As another attendant was pulling strips from the basket and placing 
them into the fire on a small altar in the room, I asked the woman what 
was going on. She smiled, laughed and said, "You know nothing of magic". 
"As the written word on paper transmits the spoken word silently from 
one human to another, my will written in the force inherent in my blood, 
taken down directly from my tongue to the strips you see, is transmitted 
by conversion in fire to an ethereal message to the deities. The message 
and the sacrifice are one!" 
 Out of curiosity (curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say), I called 
the man who dug these items up and asked what ever became of them. He 
told me that shortly after I gave them back to him he reburied them 
where they were found. Someone had told him that if the State 
authorities ever got wind of it, they would impound his land (emminent 
domain). Fearing this, he thought it better to just put them back where 
he found them and never mention it again. Interesting circumstances, 
artifacts, and impressions (they seem to be a mix of things, though 
can't be sure as I don't know a Maya from and Aztec - may just be maya 
though =-).
 
Sleep tight 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:51:47 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<<Similarities 
Message-ID: <339297B3.5964ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
OK (k)ites, 
 Seems a number of y'all have had tailbone injuries - I haven't. 
However, I do have a couple of things in common with another on the list 
and would be interested to know if anyone else identifies with either of 
these: 
 1. I have a vestigial third nipple, left side below the regular one. 
 2. I have stood at the altar of Chac Mool looking across at the pyramid 
of Kulkulcan at Chichen Itza and felt an enormous sense of deja vous. 
Went around the temple and was saddened by how much had changed and 
wondered what had become of the missing parts. 
 I know, ... weird! That's why this is the kundalini list and not the 
Captain Kangaroo list!
 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date:  2 Jun 97 10:33:50  
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
To: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net> 
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Synchronicity 
Message-Id: <9706021055.AA1559ATnospamAIS01.ais.it> 
Content-Type: Text/Plain
 
Hi everbody,
 
-----------------------------You wrote --------------------------------- 
>I am thinking that you are searching for a reason to 
>love all, because the onlyreason that we are doing 
>this is love, love, love, it is the heart and soul of 
>any romance, of any enlightenment, of any anything 
>designed to enable a soul to outlast any troubles 
> here on earth, so there is not ego of a Guru involved 
>unless He is an up and coming One and does not 
>love Himself or others, He has to realize that to 
>underplay His Intentions and albilities to heal 
>and soothes others is just as egotistical as to 
>show it off. The brave souls that do it blatantly 
 >and freely do not last unless they are in  
>syncronististy with the Gods of everyones romance... 
>For Love is the single most effective way to advance 
>as a Guru in the making, for it is acceptable 
> by most except the ones who make it their business 
>to do the oppersite of that and dam the flow of 
>infinity and cause the Cosmic Seas of Love to 
> stop the hearts of the Gods of Love....Impossible 
>to do? Yes!!! 
> 
>You are too much, Lissette, welcome home to 
>Love, 
>Ravin' Raven, 
>~V~ 
>--------------------------------------- 
>In search of truth, 
> 
>Lissette 
> 
> 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
In the Indian context, the search for life was similar to the Western way, that  
was by generalising from the particular and extracting the common properties.  
Like when Newton saw the apple fall, he concluded that all apples fell because  
of intrinsic property of matter and not because of some demon. This he called  
the Univeral Law of gravity and claimed that this law applies all over the  
universe. A very powerful statement, considering that this plant is one  
miniscule portion of the universe, but the human mind had expanded enough to be  
confident of the functioning of the entire universe.
 
The way of science is thus the way of generalisation. 
 
In a similar manner, the Indian yogis (they were also called theoritical  
scientists) tried to find out commonalities in nature. First step being all men  
came in one category of humans. Then the man and the animal came under the  
category of aminals, then man, animals, plants came under the category of  
living things. Then the man, animals, plants and non-living things came under  
the category of matter. This was a large generalisation. Finally, all matter,  
and space in between was put into another broader category called existence.   
There is no further generalisation.
 
It is this existence that is under study. This is infinite and unbound. Cannot  
be comprehended byt he mind or the limited intellect. The only way to  
experience this vastness is to transcend the mind, body and intellect. Further  
to this theory, the yogis and rishis ascerted that there is one and only one  
infinite existence and that is universal. When your consciousness is expanded  
to the universe, then every bit if existence is a part of your consciousness.  
The entire energy is yours, the happiness of all creation is yours. Since you  
are a part of the supreme Infinite consciousness, you (as in your  
consciousness) is a part of everybody's consciousness. So it is logical,  
natural and perfect to love  everybody as yourself. This is an intrinsic  
property of all consciousness, like gravitational attraction is a property  
intrinsic to all matter.
 
So we have to love, and grow our consciousnesss till we realise our Infinite  
potential. That is the only truth.....
 
We are all little waves in the oceon of infinite, a temporary form to evolve,  
and then merge back into that supreme consciousness after our little play on  
Earth is done.
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 03:18:40 -0700 
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
Message-ID: <33929E00.3F65ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
 
G'day (k)ites, 
 It seems that every experience I go through has got a name ... the 
latest one added to my 'vocabulary of the weird' is psychometry. 
However, noone has given me a name for the following: 
 Periodically, I 'open up' an 'eye' or 'sight' or whatever and 'see' 
macrocosmically or alternative microcosmically. These are usually 
somewhat harrowing as they involve perceiving impressions that have no 
spoken vocabulary to express. When the impressions become unbearable, I 
just force them to stop. They are always most interesting and probably 
reflect some inner childlike view of reality that can't be based on 
fact. 
 A recent example was standing and viewing the 'space' between 
atomic/subatomic particles and on closer examination seeing the roiling 
boil of possible particles coming into and popping out of existance 
constantly, then reaching into the jacuzzi-like froth, parting it to 
reveal the entire universes (yes, plural), both of all of the universes 
and how they existed only as dichotomies and how their dichotomies 
existed because of the framework of time and how time was made of a 
lattice of possiblities that gained dimension from the interstices of 
possibilites with impossibility as the underlying structure of all. 
 I know psychiatrists probably have a term for the mental ramblings like 
the foregoing, I was just wondering is there a mystical/spiritual term 
for it?
 
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
Dan-RF 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:44:49 -0400 
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970602104449.006a8c48ATnospamdragonbbs.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
I do remember reading something a few months ago about the Mayans.   It 
exactly described the blood letting as you have.
 
Brenda
 
 
At 02:44 AM 6/2/97 -0700, you wrote: 
>Dearest (k)ites, 
>	A while ago I posted concerning an obsidian dagger that was found 
>buried in an Indian mound in Wisconsin and came into my hands briefly 
>and the channelled message that came from the experience of touching it. 
>	I was asked to go back to it (mentally, I assumed since it was returned 
>to the finder many years ago) and do some more psychometry on it. I have 
>been reluctant as the original message was very disturbing when removed 
>from the context of a belief system that wholeheartedly endorses human 
>sacrifice. 
>	Allowing myself to do so tonight, "the rest of the story" came forward. 
>There was a second artifact and it 'unfolded' in another set of imagery. 
>The black obsidian dagger spoke of containing the lifeforce of ten 
>thousand warriors. From the same mound came an amulet. 
>	It was flat, about an eighth-inch-thick, made of red and white banded 
>agate, about three inches in height by two inches in width, polished to 
>an absolute mirror finish with rounded corners. It had a semicircular 
>groove incised around the exterior to receive a leather thong by which 
>it was suspended. 
>	The amulet belong to a powerful woman; she identified herself as Queen, 
>Goddess, Mother, Whore, Lover, Demoness, Priestess. She sat in an 
>incense-smoke-filled room with attendants chanting as she drew a 
>thorn-studded cord through a hole in her tongue. She didn't cry out as 
>droplets of blood began forming at the tip of her tongue; instead she 
>seemed to be in a pythonic ecstacy and her arms and body writhed 
>sinuously to the gutteral chants of the attendants. One of them held a 
>woven reed basket filled with strips of paper to catch the falling drops 
>of blood. As the droplets fell, they sparkled like the faceted eyes of 
>the hummingbird god and when they struck the strips of paper were 
>absorbed leaving them with the same striped appearance as the banded red 
>and white amulet she wore around her neck. 
>	As another attendant was pulling strips from the basket and placing 
>them into the fire on a small altar in the room, I asked the woman what 
>was going on. She smiled, laughed and said, "You know nothing of magic". 
>"As the written word on paper transmits the spoken word silently from 
>one human to another, my will written in the force inherent in my blood, 
>taken down directly from my tongue to the strips you see, is transmitted 
>by conversion in fire to an ethereal message to the deities. The message 
>and the sacrifice are one!" 
>	Out of curiosity (curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say), I called 
>the man who dug these items up and asked what ever became of them. He 
>told me that shortly after I gave them back to him he reburied them 
>where they were found. Someone had told him that if the State 
>authorities ever got wind of it, they would impound his land (emminent 
>domain). Fearing this, he thought it better to just put them back where 
>he found them and never mention it again. Interesting circumstances, 
>artifacts, and impressions (they seem to be a mix of things, though 
>can't be sure as I don't know a Maya from and Aztec - may just be maya 
>though =-). 
> 
>Sleep tight 
>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
>Dan-RF 
> 
> 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:24:15 -0700 
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Teeths 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970602082413.0069660cATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
I've had this dream several times a while back.   
All my teeth would fall out into the sink. 
I know it had a deeper meaning, but I can tell you I brush regularly now.  :)
 
Peace and light 
John Halonen 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:19:14 
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore! 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970602091914.4107ba5aATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:12:47 
>To: lissetteATnospambridge.net 
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore! 
>In-Reply-To: <33911FB4.22D5ATnospambridge.net> 
>References: <199705291424.JAA16631ATnospamdfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> 
<3.0.1.16.19970530065011.4b3fd3b6ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com> 
<339192C8.23B3ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
> 
>At 03:07 AM 6/1/97 -0400, you wrote: 
>>Dan, 
>>I just read your "judgement" post. Where did you get the information 
>>about Muktananda? Anyone can write anything they please, but are you 
>>certain of what you are saying? Do you have a documentation on it? 
>>Then supposing you don"t, why should I take your word for it? 
>>Besides whatever happened it does not take away receiving shaktipat from 
>>his beingness. 
>>In search of truth, 
>>Lissette 
>> 
>>Yes, Dan, I find it interesting as well that you base your observations, 
judgements, and knowledge of Siddha Yoga Awakening on a very negative 
letter posted to the kundalini list about Muktananda and Chidvilasananda. I 
might point out to you that this letter was unsigned and obviously written 
by someone who was really going thru hell in thier sadhana and in such 
great pain that they were playing a point and blame game. 
>Such letters are so negative and evil that it makes me wonder that someone 
would even give them any credance or importance.  
> 
>I don't think you are as "knowledgable and such an expert on the 
Guru/Disciple Relationship" as you porport to be. This relationship can be 
extremely important to the guidance and upliftment of a spiritual seeker. 
Maybe not for you...maybe you haven't had the grace to experience this on 
conscious level in this lifetime yet. Even in your attainment....you 
mentioned that you ..."don't like crowds"...if you were truly awakened and 
attained you would see "god" in the people in the crowds. You would be 
truly pleased to be in the presense of so much god energy! Surely a 
spiritual meditation master would have opened you to this experience...its 
a commen step on the path...instead of seeing god...you see 
negativity...what kinda awakening is this Dan?  
> 
>I have the vibe, that you were probably awakened in another lifetime and 
that your experiences in this lifetime are from such an past life 
shaktipat. The fact that you went to observe a shaktipat master tells me 
that you are still seeking and that even tho you have it all and know the 
essence lies inside you...you don't have the experience of being 
psychologically grounded in your own and everyone elses godness. 
> 
>BTW...shaktipat can be transmitted by look, thought, touch, or word. There 
are four methods.  
> 
>Have you read "Play of Conciousness"? Have you ever met Gurumayi 
Chidvilasananda ( Baba Muktananda's successor, he left his body in 1982 ). 
These are true and awakened Kundalini Masters of the Highest Degree. I know 
of none on this planet who come close. I am sure there are many and I would 
feel infinate happiness to meet them as well. The planet is truly blessed 
to have such beings walking on it at this time. Such beings often attract 
alot of hatred and controversy. Just look at what they did to Jesus ( a 
shaktipat Master if there ever was one) or many other saints who have also 
walked the earth. I would reserve my judgement and expert commentary until 
actually meeting them, which I urge you to do if ever given the 
opportunity. I think it would be a real eye opener for you and help you 
understand your own awakening and sadhana (spiritual path)as well as the 
spiritual path of other kundalini awakened spiritual seekers a little 
better. There ARE NO COMPARISONS...one path is not "better than another" 
and "one type of awakening is not better than another"...there are no 
"better thans" on the path. There is only light, consciousness, and god. 
See these things....understand these things...ground yourself in 
them.....then there are "no judgements"...then there is only light....the 
clouds of judgement blown away and the sun of infinate sparkle and juice 
seeps into our being...sweetening and purifying our eyes and ears to the 
music of this universe. 
>Om sweet Om 
>You have alot of Light Dan and you have the courage to grow and change, I 
can feel this. Please do not take offence at the things I am saying to you. 
Please see that they are said with Love and Grace for the understanding of 
spiritual path. Please honor the path of others as you honor your own path 
and be open to the energetic transmission behind the words, meanings, and 
structures/concepts of logic. 
>With Love and Light on the Path for the path is narrow and the light 
shined by the flashlight of those who have traveled ahead of us...is a 
blessing...and a boon. 
>Om  
>Melissa/Shubha/Ganesha 
>> 
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith 
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing 
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035
 
Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith 
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspa/mss.html
 
e-mail: 
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IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha 
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:19:51 
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970602091951.41071e38ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:37:23 
>To: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com 
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit 
>In-Reply-To: <33929E00.3F65ATnospamix.netcom.com> 
> 
>At 03:18 AM 6/2/97 -0700, you wrote: 
>>G'day (k)ites, 
>>	SNIP>>>>It seems that every experience I go through has got a name ...  
>>	A recent example was standing and viewing the 'space' between 
>>atomic/subatomic particles and on closer examination seeing the roiling 
>>boil of possible particles coming into and popping out of existance 
>>constantly, then reaching into the jacuzzi-like froth, parting it to 
>>reveal the entire universes (yes, plural), both of all of the universes 
>>and how they existed only as dichotomies and how their dichotomies 
>>existed because of the framework of time and how time was made of a 
>>lattice of possiblities that gained dimension from the interstices of 
>>possibilites with impossibility as the underlying structure of all. 
>>	 
>>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, 
>>Dan-RF>>>>>SNIP 
> 
>Dear Dan, 
> 
>well in sanscrit terms, this is what I think comes close to what you are 
speaking about. 
> 
>CHAITANYA: "Spirit, consciousness, especially higher consciousness; 
Supreme Being."A widely used term, often preceded by 
>modifiers, e.g., sakshi chaitanya, "witness consciousness," or bhakti 
chaitanya, "devotional consciousness," or Sivachaitanya, 
>"God consciousness. 
> 
>CHITTA: "Mind; consciousness." Mind-stuff. On the personal level, it is 
that in which mental impressions and experiences are 
>recorded. Seat of the conscious, subconscious and superconscious states, 
and of the three-fold mental faculty, called 
>antahkarana, consisting of buddhi, manas and ahamkara.consciousness: 
Chitta or chaitanya. 1) A synonym for mind-stuff, chitta; or 2) the 
condition or power of perception, 
>awareness, apprehension. There are myriad gradations of consciousness, 
from the simple sentience of inanimate matter to the 
>consciousness of basic life forms, to the higher consciousness of human 
embodiment, to omniscient states of 
>superconsciousness, leading to immersion in the One universal 
consciousness, Parashakti 
>> 
>CONSCIOUNESS: Chitta or chaitanya. 1) A synonym for mind-stuff, chitta; or 
2) the condition or power of perception, 
>awareness, apprehension. There are myriad gradations of consciousness, 
from the simple sentience of inanimate matter to the 
>consciousness of basic life forms, to the higher consciousness of human 
embodiment, to omniscient states of 
>superconsciousness, leading to immersion in the One universal 
consciousness, Parashakti 
>> 
> 
>I hope you find these definitions helpful. Noticing these different "MIND 
STATES" is called "Witness Consciousness". 
> 
>Yours on the path of Love and Light, 
>Melissa/Shubha/Ganesha 
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith 
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing 
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam 
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035
 
Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith 
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:32:48 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: TPp40ATnospamaol.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment 
Message-Id: <199706021332.IAA18658ATnospamdfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>
 
You wrote:  
> 
>Re: tail bone.  Has anyone heard of the condition of having an extra 
>undeveloped section at the base of the spine and the associated pain.   
Was 
>something that had to be surgicaly removed from my father, myself, and  
my 
>youngest sister.  Now, is there a correlation between this and the  
falling on 
>the tail bone as spoken of? 
>  Thanks,  Tom F 
> 
> 
I had this also, was told it was a cyst that was removed in infancy and  
always wondered about the scar -- lots of pain there during body work.   
I didn't connect it with kundalini till this ongoing discussion.  Had  
bad fall onto my coccyx as a child, as well.  When I was young I firmly  
believed that somebody told me that one day I would "wake up."  I ran  
from this, was disappointed by it, denied it, forgot it, until it  
finally happened.  Only in the last year have I started to connect this  
knowing with other major physical episodes in my life.  Now I'm saying  
to myself, "well, duh!!"  Holly 
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:51:29 +0200 (MDT) 
From: japserATnospamwin.tue.nl 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: computer interference 
Message-Id: <199706021351.PAA04121ATnospamwsannw13.win.tue.nl> 
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Dan said: 
>  
> Hello (k)ites; 
> 	Several of y'all have reported their computers misbehaving and have 
> blamed k-energy. You all are nuts (macadamias, I think; my favorite =-)!
 
Hello,
 
i did not experience the same `errors' as Dan, but i have something  
similar and i'd like your opinion on this. 
When i'm meditating, i use my cd-rom as a cd-player. But when i'm  
going deeper to expand/heal the cd's just starts getting in a loop or  
even stops.  it does not happen when i use the cdplayer as a provider  
for background music.
 
Is it possible that by meditating the change in brainwaves (from beta 
to alpha or even theta/delta) affects the computer? Is anyone familiar 
with this or do i have a jealous cdplayer? :)
 
Smile, 
Jasper 
      One can only lean on what resists
 
 
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