1997/06/01  08:17  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #259 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 259
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Two Doctors Comment 
  Re: Prana/Tumo fire [was: blue-green algae] 
  Re: Forgotten/lost/stolen? 
  Prana/Tumo fire 
  Re: Forgotten/lost/stolen? 
  Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings 
  blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
  Re: blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
  Re: prana/tail bones/crooked spines 
  Re: prana/tail bones/crooked spines 
  Re: blue-green algae+B Pollen 
  Re: blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: Two Doctors Comment 
  the real me 
  Re: Two Doctors Comment 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:24:43 -0500 
From: Max Prescott <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment 
Message-ID: <339042BB.796BATnospamwin.bright.net> 
 
This is very interesting because for 4 years in a row I broke my 
tailbone in the fall.  I would either fall down the stairs or fall on 
the ice.  I thought it was a message that I wasn't going in the right 
direction.  Now I realize it was probobly Kundalini.  Mine also was a 
spontaneous Kundalini awakening, a year after my last fall.  Love and 
Light, Colleayn
 
>  
> ....Whoa!!! A light goes on! I had fallen and injured my tailbone, not once 
> but TWICE as a teeneger. My K awakening in my late teens then in late 20s 
> was DEFINATELY spontaneous. 
> .........Anybody else??? Anyone know anything else about this??? 
>  
> Mo 
> the light-hearted traveller who still has a sore tailbone when she sits on a 
> hard surface for a period of time 
Date: Sat, 31 May 97 16:14:29 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Prana/Tumo fire [was: blue-green algae] 
Message-Id: <M.053197.111429.37ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Ori 
    We swim in a sea of prana, but certain types of prana that we take in e.g.  
breathe, eat , see, hear, feel ,taste, and smell, are more usable to us than  
others, according to many factors. Some foods such as living high enzyme foods,  
foods with lots of chlophyll, and algae, because they are all so full of solar  
prana ( the highest for of life force aquirable to us), can stimulate the upper  
end of the Kundalini spectrum within us. If the wiring in our nervous systems  
are sufficiently evolved to be able to carry the current load, than this can  
manifest in the three lower worlds, as emittions of light , heat, or other  
phenomenon. If not than it may manifest in the form of burn out, chakra  
blowing, or physical ,mental, emotional symptoms of disease. Prana overload can  
be devastating, and that is why there is the process of transmittion of  
shakti-pat. This is a special dispensation so to speak, which allows a quick  
roto rooter effect to our circutry, opening our channals wider in a flash of  
light, so that we can handle the extra life force. 
    Lindewey 
Date: Sat, 31 May 97 16:14:42 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Forgotten/lost/stolen? 
Message-Id: <M.053197.111442.83ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
In the Srimad - Bagavatum, and the Bagavat - gita the writtings about the  
gopis, as well as the writings on Sufism, and the swirling dervishes may hold  
some keys to this process for you. 
      Lindewey 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:54:31 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Prana/Tumo fire 
Message-ID: <33909E17.482CATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
ori^ wrote: 
  
> >I think this was a secondary activation of the Tumo fire, caused 
> >by the algae. 
>  
> What is the Tumo fire? 
> That is a new term to me. 
>  
> Also wondering about the algae and how it supplies prana. 
> The vocabulary is new to me but not the concept.  I knew 
> about prana being taken in by the breath, and I've seen 
> my pranic tube filled with light... 
>  
> what else do people know about prana?
 
Tumo is a body heat generated by Tibetan Yogis without parrafin heaters. 
The traditional test is drying out icy water soaked sheets by the bodies 
fire. We use central heating. 
Now. 
Prana. 
The key to physical health is relaxation and the key to relaxation is 
the breath. The most important component of the breath for relaxation is 
the outbreath. 
The following is a safe rejuvenating, invigorating and relaxing 
breathing technique which has formerly only been passed on in secret and 
as far as I know not been revealed publically before (people with high 
blood pressure or very tense should proceed very gently): 
The technique can be used standing or sitting upright.  
1. Link the fingers and place behind the head. 
2. Breath in whilst moving the elbows back and applying a forward motion 
to the head whic is kept stretching straight. 
3. Turn the hands so that they face upwards (still linked if possible). 
Breath out slowly and gently and push your hands to the sky and slightly 
to the back (as relaxed as possible). Your straightened arms will be 
alongside you ears. 
4. Breath normally but slowly relaxing into this position for several 
breaths focussing on slowing the out breath 
5. Continue an outbreath and lower the hands to behind the head  
6. Repeat 
7. Finish by tapping all over the head and massaging the back of the 
neck.
 
The technique can be safely used by anyone to relax the breathing, 
shoulders and upper back and neck. 
There is a further component which may be of interest to those who 
practice this for several months. The above is the health component and 
must be done first. 
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Forgotten/lost/stolen? 
Message-Id: <199705311825.LAA13056ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
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>Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:47:50 
>To: klist 
>From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
>Subject: Re: Forgotten/lost/stolen? 
> 
>I was telling a friend just the other day that I thought my memory had come 
back after a few years AWOL.  In trying to figure out why the return I 
recalled re-reading Bringers of the Dawn by Marchiniac and briefly trying 
the recommended spinning routine again...I think that may have done it!   
> 
>The book recommends spinning from left to right while focusing on the right 
thumb - for more revolutions and more times per day that seems reasonable or 
even doable... . .  and then grounding one's self with firmly planted feet 
and palms together at chest level.  I actually felt a settling of the 
energies lower down after this.  My head had been feeling particularly 
insubstantial.  The exercise is said to enable the body to hold <and> to 
interpret more light.  
> 
>Please let me know if it is of any help. 
> 
>M  
> 
> 
>> 
>>Kat, 
>> 
>>I was wondering the same thing. Letters have to be proof-read... twice, 
>>sentences have a beginning and an end, no middle. Simple words, no longer 
>>simple words. Train-of-thought has gone... out to lunch. Can't sleep, flames 
>>everywhere, crappy in the typing dept. Need a book to look up words to be 
>>spelled, still not right. Forgot what I went for and why. Made lemonade 
>>without lemons. Feet always tingle, Im grounded... I guess. Ah well... maybe 
>>tomorrow it will be different. :-) 
>>love 'n light  dor (I think ) 
> 
>LibraKatll wrote:  
> 
>>Another thing, has anyone seen my memory?  I seem to have lost it or possibly 
>>left it in another dimension.  If found, please return it because my family 
>>thinks I didn't just lose my memory, but instead have lost my mind!!! 
>> Hmmmm....if anyone sees *that* laying around, too, let me know.  ;-) 
>> 
>>Sayonara, 
>>     Kat 
> 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:47:31 -0400 
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> 
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com> 
CC: RocketBotATnospamrocketmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings 
Message-ID: <33909C73.7085ATnospamerols.com> 
 
susan carlson wrote: 
>  
> is it me or is the shakti doing housecleaning on many  people's 
> emotional  bodies?  i for one, like the rules of the sandbox: 
> everyone shares the sandbox, no throwing sand, no jumping on other 
> people's sand castles,  and say, "please, thank you , and i'm sorry." 
> kissing boo-boos is encouraged. 
>  
> _____ 
> Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
 
I have fallen behind in my reading of these posts and am trying to catch  
up. Since there are still many more for me to review, please forgive me  
if this opinion has been voiced multiple times already. After going  
through the last 100 or so posts, I too have noticed the emotionally  
charged diologue going on. Having lived with a continuously active  
Kundalini for over 6 years now (and sporadically active for 14 years  
before that), I can vouch for the fact that Kundalini does indeed bring  
up the emotions to be looked at. Therefore, I say BRAVO to this  
wonderful response by Susan. It could not be more perfect. Thank you.  
--  
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc. 
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place" 
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com 
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:12:10 +0100 
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
Subject: blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
Message-ID: <RdFRdBAqQJkzEwH7ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
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In message <M.053097.131925.16ATnospamcenturyinter.net>, 
cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net writes 
>Tom 
>   If it comes from the Solar Tech, or Solar Ray companies, it is anominophizon  
>species algae. This imparticular brand comes from Klammath springs, & lakes, in  
>Oregon. Don't know if you have ever been there, but they are still pure and  
>beautiful. They are on the edge of a giant pre-historic cauldera, the same one  
>that crater lake is on. Took the algae for years off and on, but it was always  
>too powerful for me, it made me fill with prana, and literally expand. I would  
>gain weight quickly and profoundly, even if I ate nothing else with it. Would  
>also radiate heat at night, even others could feel it, but no raise in actual  
>temperature. I think this was a secondary activation of the Tumo fire, caused  
>by the algae. Great for energy, but may experience some burn out(literally). 
>                                Lindewey 
> 
i have experienced symptoms like that simply from shakti opening the 
crown, i'm not sure they go with burn out though as one simply becomes 
bigger and experiences all kinds of psychic effects....
 
after a couple of years the light decided that phase was over and almost 
overnight the stomach and big round face were gone and everyone assumed 
i'd been dieting or running marathons whereas i changed no aspect of 
life whatsoever....
 
i had never even heard of Klamath Lake blue-green algae until yesterday. 
 
i can believe what you say about its pure origins.....
 
i've got some literature on it and am thinking about looking into it as 
a dietary supplement as it is the purest spiritual food i have ever 
tastest, and i have experimented with many diets over the years....
 
while i know the limits of food for helping spiritual development, this 
stuff is nectar judging by the two samples i tried yesterday. i wanted 
to try some more, but was embarrassed to go back to the stand at this 
spiritual convention.......
 
had come to think that 14 years since shaktipat, pranic food was not 
very important so long as i was sensible and ate fruit and vegetables 
and nuts and pulses and whole grains........
 
here's a brief summary of the claims:
 
due to its exceptional purity and rich makeup of vitamins, minerals, 
trace elements, carbohydrates and fatty acids, and proteins, and 
chlorophyll,
 
it is a brain and body booster
 
and is already being recommended by some healers and therapists in 
various fields
 
it has had some success in raising children's academic performance in 
primary school in Nicaragua
 
people report increased memory and brain functions...
 
there is some evidence to suggest it may have played a part in helping 
people with Alzheimer's 
 
and it is also said it can help relieve toxic buildup, obesity, poor 
nutritional takeup
 
and also help with ME and viral conditions....
 
the manufacturers recommend two capsules a day, but they aren't 
particularly cheap at 16.90 (UK pounds) for 60 capsules
 
but perhaps the outlay would be worth it if one's in need of prana and 
healing and "brain food".....
 
definitely worth checking out if one is interested in spiritual and 
healing effects of good nutrition.
 
love 
 
Tom 
 
ps does anyone know of anything that can match this kind of nectar ?
 
the only things i have tasted remotely like this are exceptionally juicy 
sun-ripened fresh fruit, particularly melon, peaches, pears and mango, 
and perhaps also fresh figs from the Mediterranean and organic sundried 
raisans from California, alhough these were more subtle and more diluted 
in their pranic content than the blue-green algae 
 
pps let's talk food ! why not ? 
--  
Tom Aston 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:26:54 -0400 
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970531232654.0067cc78ATnospamdragonbbs.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
  I have had a big problem with going these health food routes.... it is 
really kind of spiritually funny ...   when you look at it from different 
angles...   I'm not exactly for sure what I am to learn from this...   so I 
am just listening to myself more instead of others.   
 
My big problem has been that I have often become very ill on various 
acclaimed regimes for cleaning, etc.  It turns out I have a genetic 
intolerance of even some of the things in the blue-green algae pills.  I 
can't digest some of what is taken.   I have an idea that it is better if I 
stay mostly in the cereals, fruits, veggies...  my makeup is so that I do 
better if I eat meat occasionally but rarely red meat/white.   And I think 
if I am mindful of the eating and allow gratitude to lead the way, and bless 
the food...  then I am hoping that offsets all the environmental additions 
to the food.  
 
Is chocolate a fruit or a vegetable?
 
Brenda
 
 
At 10:12 PM 5/31/97 +0100, you wrote: 
>In message <M.053097.131925.16ATnospamcenturyinter.net>, 
>cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net writes 
>>Tom 
>>   If it comes from the Solar Tech, or Solar Ray companies, it is 
anominophizon  
>>species algae. This imparticular brand comes from Klammath springs, & 
lakes, in  
>>Oregon. Don't know if you have ever been there, but they are still pure and  
>>beautiful. They are on the edge of a giant pre-historic cauldera, the same 
one  
>>that crater lake is on. Took the algae for years off and on, but it was 
always  
>>too powerful for me, it made me fill with prana, and literally expand. I 
would  
>>gain weight quickly and profoundly, even if I ate nothing else with it. Would  
>>also radiate heat at night, even others could feel it, but no raise in actual  
>>temperature. I think this was a secondary activation of the Tumo fire, caused  
>>by the algae. Great for energy, but may experience some burn out(literally). 
>>                                Lindewey 
>> 
>i have experienced symptoms like that simply from shakti opening the 
>crown, i'm not sure they go with burn out though as one simply becomes 
>bigger and experiences all kinds of psychic effects.... 
> 
>after a couple of years the light decided that phase was over and almost 
>overnight the stomach and big round face were gone and everyone assumed 
>i'd been dieting or running marathons whereas i changed no aspect of 
>life whatsoever.... 
> 
>i had never even heard of Klamath Lake blue-green algae until yesterday.  
> 
>i can believe what you say about its pure origins..... 
> 
>i've got some literature on it and am thinking about looking into it as 
>a dietary supplement as it is the purest spiritual food i have ever 
>tastest, and i have experimented with many diets over the years.... 
> 
>while i know the limits of food for helping spiritual development, this 
>stuff is nectar judging by the two samples i tried yesterday. i wanted 
>to try some more, but was embarrassed to go back to the stand at this 
>spiritual convention....... 
> 
>had come to think that 14 years since shaktipat, pranic food was not 
>very important so long as i was sensible and ate fruit and vegetables 
>and nuts and pulses and whole grains........ 
> 
>here's a brief summary of the claims: 
> 
>due to its exceptional purity and rich makeup of vitamins, minerals, 
>trace elements, carbohydrates and fatty acids, and proteins, and 
>chlorophyll, 
> 
>it is a brain and body booster 
> 
>and is already being recommended by some healers and therapists in 
>various fields 
> 
>it has had some success in raising children's academic performance in 
>primary school in Nicaragua 
> 
>people report increased memory and brain functions... 
> 
>there is some evidence to suggest it may have played a part in helping 
>people with Alzheimer's  
> 
>and it is also said it can help relieve toxic buildup, obesity, poor 
>nutritional takeup 
> 
>and also help with ME and viral conditions.... 
> 
>the manufacturers recommend two capsules a day, but they aren't 
>particularly cheap at 16.90 (UK pounds) for 60 capsules 
> 
>but perhaps the outlay would be worth it if one's in need of prana and 
>healing and "brain food"..... 
> 
>definitely worth checking out if one is interested in spiritual and 
>healing effects of good nutrition. 
> 
>love  
> 
>Tom  
> 
>ps does anyone know of anything that can match this kind of nectar ? 
> 
>the only things i have tasted remotely like this are exceptionally juicy 
>sun-ripened fresh fruit, particularly melon, peaches, pears and mango, 
>and perhaps also fresh figs from the Mediterranean and organic sundried 
>raisans from California, alhough these were more subtle and more diluted 
>in their pranic content than the blue-green algae  
> 
>pps let's talk food ! why not ? 
>--  
>Tom Aston 
> 
> 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:49:07 -0400 (EDT) 
From: SKidder333ATnospamaol.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: prana/tail bones/crooked spines 
Message-ID: <970531194906_-1732399107ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
 
Two authors who might be of interest: 
      Barbara Whitfield's Spriitual Awakenings  speaks of her back agony, NDE 
(near death exp.) and kundalini. 
Choa Kok Sui's Pranic Healing and another text Advanced Pranic Healing
 
......I'm sending this info as a "practice post".  All my posts with the 
exception of one or two (YES, my memory too is shot!) keep on coming back to 
me with fuzzy explanations that I am "unknown" or some such thing.    Sylvia 
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 97 00:26:45 GMT 
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: prana/tail bones/crooked spines 
Message-Id: <M.053197.192645.50ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
 
Sylvia 
      Hear ya loud and clear. Thanks for the bib, but who are the publishers,  
and where can i get copies? 
    Lindewey 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:26:44 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: blue-green algae+B Pollen 
Message-ID: <3390C1C4.C4FATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Tom Aston wrote:
 
> i had never even heard of Klamath Lake blue-green algae until yesterday. 
> 
> ps does anyone know of anything that can match this kind of nectar ? 
> 
 
Bee pollen, royal jelly, and bee propolis are other examples of 
 
perfect foods.
 
As with blue-green algae is balanced for proteins, carbs, fats,
 
(good fats), RNA, DNA, vitamins, minerals and so on.
 
Most people I know use these for energy with great success.
 
Bee keepers in China who eat much of this stuff live unusually
 
long lives.
 
 
Senator Harkin cured his life long affiliation with asthma using
 
massive quantities of bee pollen.
 
It's also a proven anti-viral, antibacterial agent.
 
Also boosts the immune system and balances the hormones.
 
Don't take the stuff myself but the research is overwhelming.
 
David 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:54:55 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: blue-green algae - the debate begins........... 
Message-ID: <3390C85F.199BATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
brenda asterino wrote:
 
> Is chocolate a fruit or a vegetable?
 
Cocoa is an herb.
 
Due to the presence of caffeine and other unidentified 
 
substances; chocolate, or cocoa enhance brain activity 
 
and have antidepressant properties.
 
Also contains theobromine,a substance chemically related 
 
to standard treatments of asthma,which opens bronchial tubes.
 
And of course let's not forget the recently discovered 
 
cannabinoids.
 
Though not as much as some people would prefer.
 
Eat up! 
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:39:09 -1000 (HST) 
From: Raja Bose <sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199706010139.PAA15942ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
Had massive kundalini flow while listening to a Louise Hay tape,  
"Forgiving your inner child."  Feeling spaced out, energy in my lowest 
chakra and at the same time in my face, around my face feels like 
a mist of energy, residue, ??  Trying to stay grounded through deep 
breathing.... 
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 00:30:53 -0400 
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> 
To: morganaATnospambest.com 
CC: Dominic & Maureen Marando <chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment 
Message-ID: <3390FAFD.EDEATnospamerols.com> 
 
Morgana Wyze wrote: 
>  
> Dominic & Maureen Marando wrote: 
> > 
> > Dan RF wrote: 
> > 
> > >I have heard of yogis dropping in the lotus position from a small height 
> > >and landing on their tailbone to try to cause a kundalini awakening - my 
> > >guess is that somewhere, sometime a tailbone/spinal blow was associated 
> > >with a spontaneous awakening 
> > 
> > ....Whoa!!! A light goes on! I had fallen and injured my tailbone, not once 
> > but TWICE as a teeneger. My K awakening in my late teens then in late 20s 
> > was DEFINATELY spontaneous. 
> > .........Anybody else??? Anyone know anything else about this??? 
> > 
> > Mo 
> > the light-hearted traveller who still has a sore tailbone when she sits on a 
> > hard surface for a period of time 
>  
> I do a lot of kundalini intervention with badly risen kundalini which 
> causes adverse affects (schizophrenia, dementia, etc.), the people just 
> FIND me somehow.  They all have a twisted tailbone, which isn't a huge 
> problem, but then they all also have some incredible bends to the spine 
> (called "compensating" for the tailbone twist) which cause the faulty 
> rising. I work with a chiropractor on these people and we "massage" 
> their spine and energies back into alignment. The mental symptoms 
> disappear within two weeks, usually, physical illness can take longer. 
> MorganaWell, you really have me wondering now. My Kundalini awakening began  
about 20 years ago, but did not become troublesome and constant until a  
little over 6 years ago. The awakening was spontaneous. Although I've  
always been deeply spiritual, and have been a "seeker" for most of my  
life, I didn't even know what Kundalini was until around 5 years ago.
 
However, these two posts have caused me to remember that I did have a  
very bad fall which jarred my tailbone and was sore for quite some time  
afterward. I'm trying to remember how many years ago that was. It's  
very possible that it corresponds with my original awakening 20 years  
ago. I also have a twisted spine! Perhaps that is why my process has  
been so difficult. I'm going to explore this through memory and  
meditation. If I get any useful information, I'll pass it on. This is a  
great list. It's comforting to hear from so many who can relate to what  
I have been experiencing all these years. Thanks everyone. 
--  
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc. 
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place" 
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com 
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587 
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 08:39:32 +0200 
From: Jason <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch> 
To: "'lodpressATnospamintercomm.com'" <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
Cc: "'Kundalini'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: the real me 
Message-ID: <01BC6E67.5AAE7200ATnospamlss16pub169.bluewin.ch> 
 
<beginsnip: Gloria>
 
 It always boils back to trusting and letting go of whom you think you 
are, so that you can find out who you really are, which is the 
unknown... It is always the letting go of that controling, manipulating 
energy. That isn't you, that is the shadow.  We are seeing you ...the 
real you in this post.This being is exposing himself which is hard to 
do. This is you in your nakedness, but it is also you in the essence of 
highest good, your humility and your love..   
 
<endsnip>
 
Yes, I do feel naked.  You have seen a thin veil that I have cast aside in the previous post which was concealing a deeper manifestation of my personality.  But I feel that to say that the veil is not the "real me" or that the shadow is not me is not quite correct.  All of what I say, post, think, feel, DO and BE is the real me even if I were to lie and try to conceal myself!  Yes, on my path I make an activity such as letting go of (or maybe "ceasing to identify with" describes it better) that controling, manipulating energy, but that shadow is me just as much as the highest good, humility and love.  I feel if I am to let go of the shadow, I must also let go of the light to retain some balance.  I should cease to identify with either.
 
Your response was quite thought-provoking.  Lately I feel that thinking about spirituality is a lesser activity than DOing and BEing on the path.  As you say, I THINK I know who I am.  This happens when I make an activity such as thinking.  To discern the FEELing of whatever passes before me seems a much deeper activity.  I have done this with your response and I feel your love and kindness.
 
Love and Kindness to You. 
Zympht. 
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 06:33:10 -0400 
From: Louis Conjar <lconjarATnospamerols.com> (by way of brenda asterino <brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment 
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Brenda here: 
I know these "awakenings" can happen this way. I am presently opting for 
less dramatic things than have happened to me in the past.  Craniosacral 
applications seem to be a good way.  The Upledger Institute in Fla. teaches 
it around the world.  It is the biological side of our kundalini and 
attempts to restore optimum functioning to this vital pump in our bodies. 
There is no doubt that after even 5 minutes of it, I am greatly relaxed, 
feel much greater integration of my body and mind and am easily able to 
shift states of consciousness.    Another thing they do is what I am looking 
into now and that is somatoemotional releases.  It allows you to release 
past emotional as well as physical injuries by going into tissue and muscle 
memories.  I find it fascinating.
 
 
Morgana Wyze wrote: 
>  
> Dominic & Maureen Marando wrote: 
> > 
> > Dan RF wrote: 
> > 
> > >I have heard of yogis dropping in the lotus position from a small height 
> > >and landing on their tailbone to try to cause a kundalini awakening - my 
> > >guess is that somewhere, sometime a tailbone/spinal blow was associated 
> > >with a spontaneous awakening 
> > 
> > ....Whoa!!! A light goes on! I had fallen and injured my tailbone, not once 
> > but TWICE as a teeneger. My K awakening in my late teens then in late 20s 
> > was DEFINATELY spontaneous. 
> > .........Anybody else??? Anyone know anything else about this??? 
> > 
> > Mo 
> > the light-hearted traveller who still has a sore tailbone when she sits on a 
> > hard surface for a period of time 
>  
> I do a lot of kundalini intervention with badly risen kundalini which 
> causes adverse affects (schizophrenia, dementia, etc.), the people just 
> FIND me somehow.  They all have a twisted tailbone, which isn't a huge 
> problem, but then they all also have some incredible bends to the spine 
> (called "compensating" for the tailbone twist) which cause the faulty 
> rising. I work with a chiropractor on these people and we "massage" 
> their spine and energies back into alignment. The mental symptoms 
> disappear within two weeks, usually, physical illness can take longer. 
> MorganaWell, you really have me wondering now. My Kundalini awakening began  
about 20 years ago, but did not become troublesome and constant until a  
little over 6 years ago. The awakening was spontaneous. Although I've  
always been deeply spiritual, and have been a "seeker" for most of my  
life, I didn't even know what Kundalini was until around 5 years ago.
 
However, these two posts have caused me to remember that I did have a  
very bad fall which jarred my tailbone and was sore for quite some time  
afterward. I'm trying to remember how many years ago that was. It's  
very possible that it corresponds with my original awakening 20 years  
ago. I also have a twisted spine! Perhaps that is why my process has  
been so difficult. I'm going to explore this through memory and  
meditation. If I get any useful information, I'll pass it on. This is a  
great list. It's comforting to hear from so many who can relate to what  
I have been experiencing all these years. Thanks everyone. 
--  
Louis Conjar - Dynamic Expansion Institute, Inc. 
"All Your Spiritual and Financial Needs In One Place" 
lconjarATnospamerols.com - http://www.deimarket.com 
410-385-9500 - fax 410-654-9587
 
 
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