1997/05/30 09:20
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #257
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 257
Today's Topics:
Re: New to list - Kundalini
Re: help with accepting kundalini
Re: New to list - Kundalini
Re: angels of light and darkness
gurus and your money
Re: help with accepting kundalini
Contacts!
Two Doctors Comment
Re: Sahaja Yoga
Re: Two Doctors Comment
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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 15:20:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU>
To: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
Cc: CDeepaATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New to list - Kundalini
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970529142321.22177C-100000ATnospamturbo.kean.edu>
i'm new to the list this past weekend. this is the first time i've
checked my mail since then. was i surprised at the quantity and the
quality of the postings, execellent.
became aware of the word, kundalini, about 15 years ago in a book which
discussed the subject briefly. from that day forward i sought to learn
more about this.
i had, prior to learning about the word kundalini been practicing a
number of different yoga variations (hatha, etc.)...the next step was to
apply these toward the kundalini awakening within...from the lowest charka
to the highest...took me a little while...but the fruits of the effort paid off.
* * *
haven't been practicing much yoga lately, tend to rationize that all that
physcial practice has been transformed into Wisdom...but a long time ago
had complied a list of approximately 30 different types of yoga.
high on the list is Raja yoga...which at this point I would like to
highly reccomend a book called..."the yoga sutras of patanjali"-- i'll
have to check on the spelling of the name.
* * *
i'm not sure how extensive the list of subscribers are here...but i would
like to discuss one more item before signing off...and it may cause me to
get 'flamed' for doing so but the nature of the subject bids me regardless...
i've noticed in scanning the postings about the word, Guru. watch
yourself when seeking the 'teachings' of a Guru. be on guard at all times...
this from personal experience....a number of years ago when after
learning of the word kundalini...i sought to experince a weekend 'yoga
class' that was touted as 'kundalini' related...the so called Guru of the
class was using the yoga exercises to induce a hypnotic trance of the
participants without telling them they were being hypnotized.
The so called Guru, using the trance, was able to set up his own Cult of
followers....the unaware tranced participants now 'belonged' to this so
called 'teacher'. he was able to capture their souls through ignorance,
this is a karmic regression.
SO, YES THERE IS DANGER IN THE QUEST OF THE KUNDALINI. THE FORCE DEALS
WITH THE SUBTLE BODY, IT'S MANIFESTATIONS ARE MANY AND ELUSIVE THROUGH
THE VEIL OF MAYA.
WARNING!!! WARNING!!!
STAY WAY FROM YOGI BHAJAN, THE 3HO FOUNDATION, AND THE KRI CENTERS/TEACHERS.
* * *
again, it's nice to know after all these years that there a others out there
who have knowledge about the kundalini...mention the word to people
around me and they go 'huh?'...what the hell are you talking about?
think i'll stick around here for a while.
hope i have not offended anyone.
respectfully,
dennis quinn
new jersey
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 14:16:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: sumacATnospamwin.bright.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: help with accepting kundalini
Message-ID: <338D8192.6FB2ATnospamintercomm.com>
Max Prescott wrote:
colleayn wrote
>
> In this dream I had hundreds of snakes
> that were coming out of rocky areas high on a mountain. I was being
> taught a lot of information but I could not listen because I was too
> scared the snakes were going to come and bite me. When I interpreted
> the dream I found how frightened I am of the Kundalini energy. On a
> conscious level, I didn't think I was that afraid anymore but my
> sub-conscious was really letting me know otherwise. After interpreting
> this I knew it was very true.
It isn't unusual to have this kind of reaction but it is a block in
total to the spirit moving. You actually create negative energy with
this thought in your mind. And, you almost guarantee yourself a
difficult awakening. This is your choice. It doesn't have to be that
way. So what is missing?
You are trying to do it on your own, this is a big problem. And it is
your 'i' that is afraid and suffering, this only means you don't know
yourself to be a soul spirit. This is the hazard of thinking that you
can do anything with k on your own. The need to totally surrender to God
so that the fear is erased is the only way out of this situation. You
can try to manipulate yourself into thinking you aren't afraid, but if
it is coming from the bottom of the solar plexus you can be certain it
is not going to work.
You need to find out what is missing on your journey, and what it is
that you can do to change it. Meditiate on this. K awakening is not a
mental/emotional journey, it is a spiritual process of transforming your
body, mind, and soul. So, if you come at it from the self, you are only
going to spin, if you really confront the issue you will see that let go
and let God applies to this 100%. Not my will but your will be done, is
the focus of the undoing. God Bless Gloria
>
>
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 14:26:31 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU>
CC: CDeepaATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New to list - Kundalini
Message-ID: <338D8405.6A5ATnospamintercomm.com>
> SO, YES THERE IS DANGER IN THE QUEST OF THE KUNDALINI. THE FORCE DEALS
> WITH THE SUBTLE BODY, IT'S MANIFESTATIONS ARE MANY AND ELUSIVE THROUGH
> THE VEIL OF MAYA.
>
> WARNING!!! WARNING!!!
>
> STAY WAY FROM YOGI BHAJAN, THE 3HO FOUNDATION, AND THE KRI CENTERS/TEACHERS.
>
> * * *
>
> dennis quinn
> new jersey
It is wise to be open and aware no matter what is coming down in these
days of transition. However, it is also necessary to not have a negative
thought in your mind, so while it is good to be observant, it is not
necessary to be paranoid and fearful. Instead just practice detachment,
observe, watch, don't judge and flow. This is the best formula for
growth with k. Nice to meeet you dennis. Gloria
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:04:21 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: angels of light and darkness
Message-ID: <338E43B5.27D3ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
> Jason wrote:
> > 1. How can we grow and evolve
> > 2. How can we develop the ability to Love.
> > 3. What is your greatest capacity
> > I'd love to hear your answers to the questions. And anyone else's answers too!
> > 1. How can we grow and evolve
My experience is of a genuine concern to do good. This may mean smiling
at more poeple.
Finding and looking for more good. Listening when we prefer to talk.
Evolution is about giving. The first person we have to bestow is
ourselve. We have to admit our vulnerability, our imperfection, foibles
and fears. We then have to accept this and know we can change it. Then
we make an effort day by day to finish the day a better person than at
the
days start.
> > 2. How can we develop the ability to Love.
fear is the antithesis of Love you are right
but fear is also fear of loving or being loved
We love the world, people, material goods, situations
then we Love the Beautiful and True
then we Love the Beautiful and True in All theings
then we Love the ugly and untrue - seeing their value
then we Love without discrimination
bit by bit our capacity to Love takes over
and we become the object of our desire
> > 3. What is your greatest capacity
The capacity to Love
Love
Lobster
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:25:41 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Dennis Quinn <dquinnATnospamturbo.KEAN.EDU>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: gurus and your money
Message-ID: <338E1075.4120ATnospambest.com>
Dennis Quinn wrote:
.the so called Guru of the
> class was using the yoga exercises to induce a hypnotic trance of the
> participants without telling them they were being hypnotized.
>
>
> think i'll stick around here for a while.
>
> hope i have not offended anyone.
>
Hi Dennis, welcome to the list.
I can only speak for this one. There are some good teachers out there,
I personally favor the ones who don't call themselves a Teacher with a
capital T, Master, or Guru.
I've seen some new age teachers who had quite a trick of snagging
chakras and causing obsessive behavior of their followers through this.
One man in particular (you might want to avoid RED ROAD) snags the
second chakra of women who have money or psychic power. The woman are
fixated on him and use all of their resources to insure his comfort and
gain his attention.
Another very famous spiritual leader is rumored to have a prayer group
in her inner circle who goes after her "enemies" with negative
energies. I heard this from one who was previously involved in that
inner circle, but I won't name names based on hearsay.
It's business as usual, "Caveat Emptor", when there's big money to be
made on a spiritual "product". I have nothing against their making
money, money is great, just as in all other things we have to be
well-educated and aware consumers.
Morgana
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:02:32 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: help with accepting kundalini
Message-ID: <19970529.200258.25606.3.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Colleen said
>My fear of the kundalini rising again has led me to quit meditating,
>doing a lot of spiritual work, and healing work because I don't want
>to>be hurt anymore. It is pretty crazy to have to fight it this bad. I
>know ignoring it isn't going to help, but how can I begin to love,
>accept, and begin to work with this energy? I am ready to take the
>next>step on my journey.
Colleen,
What makes you think you aren't already on the next step on your journey?
You apparently raised your K thru meditations, spiritual work & healing
work, which brought you to where you are NOW. You knew *something*
didn't feel right before and so you stopped what you were doing.
Wow..... sounds to me as if you stopped doing something by trusting
yourself that what you were doing was not right for you. Not a thing
wrong with that.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Not human beings
having a spiritual experience. You have learned the truth about
yourself. You know who you are now. When our K is awakened, we are
*still* spiritual beings, although we *think* we are a human being
having a spiritual experience because we had forgotten who we are. Your
spirit doesn't need this experience anymore! You know who you are! It's
your ego wanting this now.
Colleen, now is the time to accept who you really are and enjoy your
earthly experience as a full-time human being. It is only when we forget
our roots while visiting here, that we encounter chaos in our life.
As to the reawakening of your Kundalini, there is no need to awaken it.
It is alive and kicking already, but in a much more easy & gentle way.
Trust yourself once again to know you are exactly where you are supposed
to be. You are already perfect, whole, safe, and complete.
I rest my case.
Lots of Love to You,
xxxtg
"If you can't find Heaven while here on Earth, what makes you think
you'll find it when you die?"
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 21:20:09 +0000
From: Otávio Souza Lucas <tataATnospampersocom.com.br>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Contacts!
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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 21:44:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Two Doctors Comment
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I recently read a theory that kundalini can be activated by a spinal injury
and that the premature activation in an unprepared body and mind can lead to
schizophrenia. My father has been hospitalized most of his adult life with
paranoid schizophrenia which began after a parachute jump while he was in the
Army. My own experiences during the kundalini episodes (visions of lights,
strange sounds/music, vibrations, and sensations of my body disappearing or
being changed into different things) have made me question more than once my
alleged sanity. Because so many of the "symptoms" seem the same as my
father's, I naturally considered the possibility that the kundalini events
were caused by a medical condition. And when my husband and I saw the movie
"Phenomenon," we started wondering if indeed a brain tumor was at the root of
all of my new perceptions. We have a good friend who is a neurosurgeon who
has operated on many brains. I decided to talk to him about what I have been
going through since the kundalini activated. When I began describing the
events to him, he first asked if I had had a CT scan recently. As a matter
of fact, I had one done six months ago in an attempt to find out why I had
pain in the center of my forehead. (Yes, you will say this is a blockage of
the third eye chakra, but I haven´t found a psychic Roto-Rooter yet.) When I
told him that the CT scan showed nothing physical, he told me that
coincidentally he was reading a book written by an anthropologist who was
having the same kinds of experiences.
Of course I went straight to the library and checked out the book, called
"Spiritwalker," by Dr. Hank Wasselman. He never uses the term "kundalini,"
but describes the unmistakable sensations just like many of you on the list
and I have done. He gives the patterns of light the name "phosphenes" and
proffers the idea that they are the same patterns that appear in prehistoric
cave and rock drawings, such as the Lascaux caves in France. He also tells
of his shamanistic journeys with the consciousness of "primitive" man who, by
the way, lives on Earth 5,000 years in the future. Based on his experiences,
the author predicts that, at some point in the future, global warming will
cause the oceans to rise enough to incapacitate all of the world´s seaports.
As soon as there is no transportation system for oil, food distribution
shuts down within days. All that is left is for mankind is a hunter/gatherer
life in an ecologically damaged environment. Because our technological age
has stripped all of the metals and ores from the Earth´s surface so that
mining can no longer be done without power equipment, another technological
age can never develop, even after mankind learns to be self-sufficient again.
"Spiritwalker" has lots of other ideas to snack on, but this idea of a
shamanistic experience accompanying the kundalini episodes has me wondering
if the two are always/sometimes/seldom related. Wasselman wonders if his
perceptions may have been facilitated by a combination of factors including
stored sense memory in certain objects around him, his locale, as well as his
own childhood experiences with an "imaginary" half animal, half human entity
which resembled what he calls the "therioforms" also found on prehistoric
cave and rock drawings.
Do any of you feel that your consciousness "goes" to a specific place during
the kundalini episodes? Do you "meet" other forms of consciousness in other
time periods? Is there any reason to intentionally try to do this? Is it
just another kundalini gimmick to distract from the real job at hand?
Peggy, the Puzzled
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 22:17:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: KPitcherATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sahaja Yoga
Message-ID: <970529221704_149582074ATnospamemout03.mail.aol.com>
Please un-subscribe me. Thanks KPitcherATnospamaol.com
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:25:34 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment
Message-ID: <338E48AE.479AATnospamix.netcom.com>
I have heard of yogis dropping in the lotus position from a small height
and landing on their tailbone to try to cause a kundalini awakening - my
guess is that somewhere, sometime a tailbone/spinal blow was associated
with a spontaneous awakening and the desparate have been trying to
duplicate the awakening by duplicating the situation = sympathetic magic
reasoning. Spontaneous awakenings are associated with totally untrained
yogic postures/pranas/kriyas etc., etc. Again, my guess is that these
where then systematized as a method 'backwards' to an awakening. I can
tell you that duplicating the position of my original awakening triggers
kundalini arousal whenever I do it. Sounds like a viable explanation
though.
BTW, Wasselman seems to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel ...
the material he covers, creates neologisms for, and speculates about has
been written in exquisite detail about, and codified in numerous
traditions and by other pschologists (Jung through Grof, Sannella, et.
al.).
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-R.F.
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:44:55 -0700
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Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 22:28:31 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment
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>
> Do any of you feel that your consciousness "goes" to a specific place during
> the kundalini episodes? Do you "meet" other forms of consciousness in other
> time periods? Is there any reason to intentionally try to do this? Is it
> just another kundalini gimmick to distract from the real job at hand?
>
> Peggy, the Puzzled
Hi Peggy, you can never figure out kundalini anymore then you can a
mystic experience. The world and people are changing rapidly since the
astral plane has been bombarded with thought forms, and while yes it is
appearing as the people destroying the Earth, in fact, it is a
reflection of the spiritual dimensions being in warfare.
Creation itself is manifest through a very complex thought/emotion
energy wheel. Where there is major focus on lower pursuits it reflects
the state of the spiritual energy field around people in their life,
their thoughts, etc.
K is bringing in change, those who have major imbalances in their
spiritual body in regards to emotion, thoughts, and connected to lower
energies, just naturally begin to live more in that space then the one
that we are in. It is like getting caught in a dream where everything
heard, felt or thought appears to exist immediately. Lack of center, or
balance means the individual cannot discern what is real and what isn't.
Problems such as voices, seeing things, etc, naturally use this
environment. Gloria
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 23:55:50 -0600
From: Albert and Joyce King <hmcilroyATnospamtelusplanet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: please let this work...
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this is my third or fourth try in three days...if it doesn't work i'll
be cranky...
what about auras and kundalini? that was my first interaction with "k"
h.
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 03:32:55 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Daniel Rusch-Fischer <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Synchronicity
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Hi Dan,
I read your post on shaktipat being colletive hysteria....
I don't know about your experience, but I never heard of kundalini or
shaktipat in my life, I was travelling another path in my life... a non
mystical one for sure, I had no devotion or much belief in deities when
someone gave me the book I AM THAT by Baba Muktananda, where he teaches
the mantra HAM SA... I started to repeat it as I fell asleep most nights
for weeks....I got shaktipat..!!!!
I did not know what it was, I just knew that I had a strong desire to
meditate which I never had before, when I meditated my body started to
move to adopt postures and all this electricity ran through my spine, I
got very scared and started calling the friend who gave me the book, he
did not know much of what was happening, he had not experienced those
symptoms. So I called the Siddha Yoga center and spoke to a lady there
who told me not to worry that it was natural....
The point is that I had no collective hysteria situation to "believe"
that I was going through mystical experiences. It just happened, and
when I started to read about it, I was amazed how precise the
descriptions were.
Do you still think that it is the guru's ego that creates an illusion?
In search of truth,
Lissette
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 03:20:38 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Synchronicity
Message-ID: <338EA9F6.6FB3ATnospamix.netcom.com>
Hi Lissette,
I should have been more circumspect when I posted. People's beliefs are
certainly a very sensitive area to poke at carelessly. First let me
clarify what I was talking about when I used the term shaktipat
(understand that I only am using these terms as I assume their meaning
from context on this list - not a guarantee of certitude in definition
by a long shot).
I take the dispensing of shaktipat to be the equivalent of 'jump
starting' a person's/disciple's/pupil's/initiate's
kundalini-awakening/spiritual-emergence/ shamanic-journey by the
'psychic' intervention of a second party (guru/teacher/etc.). This has
been described most often as involving a simple physical act; usually by
touching of the pupil with the finger(s)/hand(s) by the guru on the
forehead/crown/base-of-the-spine. Shri Mataji is an exception in this
regard as she simple nods her head slightly forward, appears to
concentrate briefly and then announces to the audience that it has
happened.
Personally, I have been able, with a touch, to reach into a person's
mind and send it reeling (this I have verified to my own skeptical
satisfaction by doing this to an unsuspecting person who was expecting a
temple massage). Then when the seated person begged me, while clutching
the arms of their chair to maintain their balance, to please make it
stop, was able, again with a simple touch, to cause it to instantly
cease. While dramatic, and novel, I don't equate this with shaktipat.
Although there are numerous cases of mild, protracted spontaneous
awakenings, most often they are accompanied by symptoms that range from
surprising to harrowing (an awful term that harks back to the days of
torture by being dragged over sharp points; thereby tearing ones flesh
from their bones).
This most common scenario of genuine, spontaneous awakening has another
hallmark (other than the specific symptom-set being unique to each
person and not dependant on a prior belief system) and that is that it
is protracted; often months and even years in duration before abating,
though never completely forgotten. Again, the shaktipat scenario seems
to depend, in large part, on the expectations of the guru and his
'system' and the relationship with the pupil.
BTW I never used the term 'collective hysteria' - I even dislike the
term delusion and my use of the term 'ego' when describing the guru's
belief in his ability to give shaktipat is charged with judgement that
not intended. Belief is a most powerful and valuable attribute of the
mind; I work in the pharmaceutical industry and belief is such a
tremendously powerful force that it takes an incredible expenditure of
mathematical and scientific resources to try to eliminate it from drug
trials.
In that regard, even if shaktipat is not possible (in the narrow sense
of bringing about the events seen in spontaneous i.e., non-initiated,
awakening) that does not mean that the pupil does not experience
symptoms or derive benefit from the ritual. For example, simple
meditation obviously does not make one automatically enlightened, but
almost everyone who engages in it derives some benefit.
I hope the above makes my opinion (and yup, opinions can be right,
wrong, and of no importance, whatsoever =-) a little less 'opinionated'.
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
ps: HELP, HELP, Karen is dragging me to PACIFIC '97 for an orgy of
butterflies-on-stamps buying spree. I don't mind her doing that (I love
the way she turns into a kid over her butterfly stamps - she will be
wearing her butterfly earrings, butterfly pullover, and toting her
ecologically-correct butterfly canvas bag), but it will mean several
days of being surrounded by people from most of the nations on the
planet and scads of philatelic exhibits from the far reaches of the
earth and history. I don't know about y'all, but I find the eclectic
diversity in these situations to be psychically overwhelming - I even
avoid museums for this reason (you see what happens at libraries - new
book stores are a little better in this regard). Oh well, it won't kill
me, just slap me around a bit psychically - maybe I need that (you
listening, Angelique =-).
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:11:28 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Placebo
Message-ID: <338EFC30.2EF2ATnospammail.snet.net>
Dan wrote:
> Belief is a most powerful and valuable attribute of the
> mind; I work in the pharmaceutical industry and belief is such a
> tremendously powerful force that it takes an incredible expenditure of
> mathematical and scientific resources to try to eliminate it from drug
> trials.
Off the topic of your post but I found this to be true.
I have always been dismayed by Western medicines' continuous
ignorance of the powerful value of our innate, natural
healing abilities.
They trivialize it with a term like placebo.
Afterall, how much $ is there to be made in a society that is
intimately aware of it's own internal healing processes?
Or how much $ is there to be lost?
Just a rant.
David
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