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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #252


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 252

Today's Topics:
  re:questions from a beginner
  Re: focus
  Re: Understanding (or lack thereof) Was Re: focus
  RE: angels of light and darkness
  Re: chakras and community
  Re: TTFN
  Re: focus
  Re: The pattern, merkaba warning.
  Re: Simply enlightened
  Re: focus
  Re:What is the "inner smile"
  Re: Near-Death-Experience/Kundalini (was Autopost from......)
  Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings
  Re: The pattern, merkaba warning.
  Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings
  Pranayama - nasal irrigation
  Re: focus
  Re: Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:57:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: lainieATnospamatheria.europa.com
Cc: RocketBotATnospamrocketmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, RocketBotATnospamrocketmail.com
Subject: re:questions from a beginner
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---lainieATnospamatheria.europa.com wrote:
>
> Dear Susan:
>
> What is this blue light energy? Your experiences with kundalini
sound very
> similiar to mine. Lainie
>
>
dear lainie

sometimes the energy looks like a blue light somewhat flourescent. it
is
cool feeling. i tend to think of that energy as shakti, the feminine
aspect
of this universal energy. kundalini, which i think of as the masculine
aspect, i see as fiery. sometime when i work with that aspect i look
like my face has been sunburned. the energy is fiery hot, electric
and it does not burn. . . me. when the energy infuses me sometimes i
cannot move for awhile except in slow spastic movements. afterward i
can feel
the very air around me vibrate. sometimes the blue light to me looks
like the godess shakti (at least according to the pictures i have
seen.)
some healers who work specifically with this energy tell me it is the
shakti aspect which is more specific for healing although it doesn't
seem to make a difference in my experiences.

one of the most awesome side effects is it is youthing me. not that i
am walking with a cane or anything (i am 39). i am convinced it is
healing
my reproductive system and injuries heal much faster.

there are other things too that have happened and are happening.
they are my own experiences. they tend to be blissful, joyful overall.
they were physically painful in the beginning as the energy began to
clear out my physical body. i was somewhat of an emotional slob
and a raving bitch while it was (rather still is) clearing my
emotional
bodies. i have felt the energy straighten a dislocated knee ( didn't
hurt)
and straighten my back (OUCH)

a funny and sometimes awkward side effect , is the "spilling" over of
the energy into the fields of the people i come in contact with.
this is a
nonlocal effect too, i have discovered. my friends have noticed it
and tend to stay away or come close depending on their needs. they
begin to "burn"too.

even though i do try to stay away from religious terms and frameworks,
eastern thought and the sanskrit language can be the most descriptive
for experieces of kundalini that the english language cannot describe.

i hope some of this helps
blessings
susan
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Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 17:58:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: SANDYLRANATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
Message-ID: <970526175847_-296782898ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>

well...well....glad to have provided some "words" that provoked thought and
response. Unfortunately..or fortunately....all I have is words to convey
experience...I will attempt to be more succinct in my expressions...NOT.....I
enjoy witnessing people being themselves..and Lobster...reminds me of the
constant vigilance required....of course.. if I understood...God...I would be
Him...but I am Him...so to speak....but I am sure..that I am
clueless.....just stumbling forward....

It is all merely self-serving and selfish all this babble anyway....what I am
really interested in is getting a good night's sleep...so any info about
blockage in the head.. or if someone has experienced this kind of
thing...would appreciate feedback...

Great website...Lobster...very informative....thanks for your feedback...
 :-)

Sandy in FL
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 17:07:26 -0500
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Understanding (or lack thereof) Was Re: focus
Message-Id: <199705262207.RAA06058ATnospamns2.icon.net>
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Lillemor wrote:

>I'm not judging anyone,

Hmmmm. Then I wonder what it's called when someone pronounces a stranger
"ignorant" and "unethical."

Lillemor, sometimes those who teach best are those who say things that make
us uncomfortable. Lobster seems to have really struck a nerve with you.
Maybe you should examine what it is that makes you sting when you read his
note, and find out why--then healing can begin.

>I think I have the rights to defend myself, when I or Spirit are defended.

Spirit is never offended, nor does Spirit need defending.

>Maybe I learned to defend myself even better by this thread.

Since you are Spirit, you need no defense. What are you afraid of, that you
must put up these defenses? In the long run, a defense is just another wall
that blocks the Light.

>Well we have to see what comes out of this, don't we.

Hopefully, love, light, growth, and understanding. :)

   Jeanne
 ==-* My stars!
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:28:32 +0200
From: Jason <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "'vic bonds'" <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>,
 "'Kundalini'"
  <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: angels of light and darkness
Message-ID: <01BC6A34.EAABC2E0ATnospamlss16pub155.bluewin.ch>

Victoria,

Thank you for that which is copied below. I usually do not understand your posts, but this one came through crystal clear.

My recent "plunge" into my old friend Darkness has shown me yet again that lightness can be found through darkness because they are the same. A lesson that, for reasons which are only just becoming clear, I needed to learn twice.

But to plunge is perhaps not a wise path as I now realise. A happy medium between lightness and darkness is a peaceful place. I watch their interplay and the creativity manifested by their mixture. I feel a resounding love for this creativity which seems to unfold best with the least interference of my mind's yearning to make activities such as plunging.

Love. Zympht.

PS. I feel I must expose my ego. It feels so wrapped up in these posts. It wants to say clever things. It wants everyone on the list to think that I am an evolved being. It compels me to feverishly check my email to look for responses. It feels a great need for love and attention. Why does it feel it must expose itself? Just another ploy to draw attention? Do I dare love that too?

PPS. I love very much all of the beautiful personalities that manifest the postings of the list. And I love very much the one lightness and darkness which we all share with the universe.

----------
From: vic bonds[SMTP:wildwingsATnospampeconic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May, 1997 19:03 PM
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: angels of light and darkness

LIGHT AND DARKNESS

She always was a Lightbringer, but, she felt unfulfilled. She knew
something was missing, but, she was not sure what. Makingup her
mind to search everwhere, until, she had her answer.
She begin to look with much Joy and Fanfare, instead, never even found
her Laughter. She searched her Heart, and went with-in, finding an
Endless Beach, and an Infinite Sea!
She ran and ran in the Sparkling Sunlight, but it wasn't the same,
without her Friend.
She retreated to the outer world, again, to think things over.
After much soul-searching, she decided to take the Plunge!
While diving into the dark, still, infinite Pool of her mind, someone
met her,
as her face entered the Mysterious coolness.... It was her Friend,
Darkness! She suddenly remembered Who she was, and her Purpose
for Being: She was Light, and Darkness is her Beloved!
In Joy and Great Laughter, They danced the Dance of Union and
Creation,
that all the Worlds may Exist! For this world is a World of Twilight,
and it Stands on the Brink of Eternity, Forever!

Sincerely,
Victoria
  ~V~
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:21:57 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: brenda asterino <brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: chakras and community
Message-ID: <33898E74.32C2ATnospamintercomm.com>

brenda asterino wrote:
>
> Would anyone like to speak more about chakras? I thought over the years I
> had gleaned at least a basic understanding. However, a friend and I are
> aware of other openings happening on our bodies... like another set of
> chakras on the back as well as the front.... I especially feel them
> behind my heart and throat chakras.

Brenda,
 There are major and minor chakra's and more also above your head and
down the back. True. Each is an expansion in the overall awakeing, those
above the head are for working directly with divine will for humanity.
Gloria
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:28:07 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: TTFN
Message-ID: <33898FE6.4AE1ATnospamintercomm.com>

>
> To David, Victoria, Larry, Sen Ashanka, Brenda, Gloria, Ori^, Robyn, Peggy,
> Sarah, Morgana, Ed (Lobster), susan, cen06681 (If that is your real name!),
> and (Last but not least),Yogi Tom, thank you for your generosity of spirit,
> and keep up your selfless contributions to the spiritual advancement of the
> planet. I am going to be reading and pondering your postings in my files for
> many days to come!
>
> Love to All!
>
> Ronnie Gee
Ronnie,
 I one point recently Mystress said there were nearly 300 people on the
list, that seems like a lot for the amount of communication going on. I
wonder if they don't leave when something of a challenge comes up.
 We look forward to your return.I have enjoyed your Mormon posts since
it gave some positive information. How is kundalini dealt with in the
Mormon Church? Gloria
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:25:16 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: maeror <fsjra5ATnospamaurora.alaska.edu>
CC: LionessATnospamtrust-me.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
Message-ID: <33899D48.2822ATnospamintercomm.com>

maeror wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 May 1997 LionessATnospamtrust-me.com wrote:
>
> > Lillemor replies to Aaron:
> >
> > If you think that I'm egoistic when I speak in conviction.....I just shake
> > my head !
>
> If you think that I'm egotistical when _I_ speak in conviction, I hope you
> point out my foolishness and save me from further embarrassment.
>
> > Thanks otherwise for the yelling at this very unethical Lobster.
> > That guy is not only ignorant, but unethical and everything else then humble !
> > I really wonder what list I subscribed to, and I can say that it doesn't feel
> > like a safe place to share experiences that is about kundalini.
> > Those powers is not yo play with stupid Lobster, and not with me eather.
>
>
Hi Arron and Lillemor and others,
 We have a large variety of folks on the list and some times we go into
discussions that hit buttons. This is all a part of the learning
cycle. Detachment is essential to life and life is the teacher.
While it is wonderful to have a discussion group that shares experience
around kundalini , it really can't do that without also bringing in
aspects of life. What is here is a very good representation of life on
this planet and it enters into both light and dark areas. This is really
a treasure for those ready to confront inner truth and to directly deal
with some who are totally opposite in experience. The joy of being
introduced to a specific frequency is extremely valueable, if you are
sincerely working at grounding into the heart center the letting go that
is necessary for protection will also make you closer to God provided
tat is where you go... and you don't just think, judge and be angry.
 This list is terrific for learning detachment, and love is the
vibration that we need in order to purify and let go. I have just
recently been on the end of some projections and found it to be a
powerful experience that was used for God's purpose. Can we all come to
this place of acceptance? Gloria
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:51:22
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>,
 "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The pattern, merkaba warning.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970525035122.095708eaATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  Hi Larry. Fun stuff, eh?

At 16:45 23/05/97 -0400, Larry Killen wrote:

>I am a graduate student. So often I study and realize I knew all that I
>was reading. Not because I am 'smart' but I feel like I had read it
>somewhere before. This is not common reading!
  No, it's psychometric reading. You are absorbing the information fromthe
vibrations of the book ito your uncoscous, and so reading the book sems
like remebring.
 The more people who have read the book, the easier to soak up the
information through your fingertips instead of your eyes. But it works with
new books, too.
  You have access to a lot more information as the process continues. Past
life onfo, spirit info, DNA, the rest of your currently inactive brain, as
well as the celular memory, which is a trillion times the power of your
brain. Goddess is all, and knows all, and she speaks to you directly and
indirectly.
<...>
>And then today has been bizarre. It started with some angry E-mail from
>another list (I was trying to recommend he read a Web site (The MER-KA-BA
>Meditation:The Teaching On Spherical Breathing)

  I recently did a ritual to dismantle my merkaba. I'm glad it's gone.
  That might be the message of the flame for you, too.
  I found my unconscious trying to process the Karma of anyone who happened
to be in my 50 foot radius to lift them to my dimension meant= I was really
seriously taking on a lot of other people's stuff. Big cumbersome
unneccessary thing, I laugh now at whatever made me think I needed it.
Keeping up with the Joneses, really. Merkaba is fashionable.
  Made it uncomfortable and restless to be in public spaces. Bleah.
  My energy is set to automatically be whatever size it needs to,
performing I used to blow it up theatre sized for extended periods of time,
blow it up to universal size ocassionally in meditation, a good streach.
Having it fixed at 50'r is a limiting concept, really. Insisting that the
energy conform to a particular shape in all circumstances, putting
restrictions on it's flexibility.
  Having experimented with the merkaba energy form by Drunvalo and worn it
since mid Dec., I can honstly say I feel much better off this last while
without it. Let your K. do it's thing without a merkaba restricting it.

>I found through here but he
>thought (I assume) I was attacking his LDS beliefs. We are both Mormon.
>It seemed to set the pace for the entire day where everyone I have
>encountered has misunderstood what I have said and is angry with me about
>it. After about 5 incidences like the first I began to see the humor in it
>all. I actually told one person (my professor, no less) that they would
>have to wait in line to hate me! But one positive note. When such things
>get so pronounced I am able to detach and look at it. That is where I am
>at now.
>
>But I am wondering why or what for?
  Well, there ya go.. other folks' stuff in your face. I's your stuff, too,
detachment practice, as you have discovered. Clarifying beliefs.
  It's gonna happen with K. anyway, but from my experience K. and Merkaba
are incompatable. The breathing is good, but consider for a moment: you
already have the most powerful force of the universe inside of you, why
does it need to be spread over such a big space? What are you scared of?
Goddess K. will protect you.
  It's unnecessary for dimension tripping and astral travel. It does effect
everyone within that proximity to your energy. Do ya really wanna be doing
that? People unconsciously working out their negative karma with you becuse
their lightbody is trying to drag them into your K. awakened state? Go a
little easier on folks.. back off with the area/space/energy manipulation
stuff, pull your field in smaller so it's not slicing through everyone you
meet, trying to evolve them into another dimension.
  Someone wrote on another list about a discovery that a real belly laugh
is an instant effortless merkaba ride to a higher dimension.
> I ask God if this is a lesson I need
>to see and if so, what is it I need to learn? (religious approach) or I am
>aware of my propensity for martyrdom. Nail me to the cross and then you'll
>be sorry. A habit I learned from my dad.(psychological) Or this is just
>the cycle of life events (philosophical)Maybe I am just looking at the
>negative side of life today (analytical).
>
   Probably all of the above. When K. is done with you, there will be a new
you whose resemblance to the present you will be mostly superficial. All of
these things come up so you can choose to get past them.

>I don't know much for sure. Of course I have entertained Satan too. I
>don't like him so I try to make like there ain't one. He doesn't seem
>necessary.
  Excellent, you are getting past that stuff, too.
>
>But the last week has been insane. I don't believe I dramatize my life. I
>don't think I have too! But I feel I am caught between systems where I
>can't quite break from one to reach the other.
>
  Truth is stranger than fiction, and art imitates life... Keep a journal
of the wierdness, it seems a lot of k. awakened folks write a book, and
having record of this stuff makes for a clearer perspective, in your own
mind. Particularly rereading stuff you wrote when K. is flaming, when it is
quieter. Writing out new ideas makes them clearer and plants them deeper in
your mind. Write out the old ones and burn them with intent to release
their poewer over you. Clear input to unconscious and K. through clear
symbolic language and intent.
  You can use your own writing to ground yourself, and to get clearer on
what is happening to you, in the evolutionary process.
  In the meantime, sharing the "drama" makes for interesting reading.
  Thankyou.
 Blessings, Angelique.
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:58:10
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Simply enlightened
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970525035810.09575e02ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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    Thankyou for this, Lobster:
  I really reminds me of a part in "Stranger in a Strange Land".
  When the man from mars kissed a woman, she tended to faint, because of
the intensity of the energy of the kiss. He gave it his whole attention,
not another thing on his vast and starry mind but the ritual of intimacy
and total focus on his partner.
  Grokking.
 Heinlien as Guru... he never meant to start a church, with that book...
but he did anyway. Blessings, Angelique.
 
>Thich Nhat Hanh. _Teachings on Love._ Parallax Press, pub date July 30,
>1977.
<....>
> Hugging meditation is a combination of East and West. According
>to the practice, you have to really hug the person you are hugging. You
>have to make him or her very real in your arms, not just for the sake of
>appearances, patting him on the back to pretend you are there, but
>breathing consciously and hugging with all your body, spirit, and heart.
<...>
>Thich Nhat Hanh. _Teachings on Love._ Parallax Press, pub date July 30,
>1977.
>-----------------------------
>
>
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 17:38:03 -0500
From: gawain <gawain1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: focus
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Gawain smiles,

>Read the Tao Te Ching and the Dhammapada. Multiple translations are
>available on the web. You might want to skim the New Testament as well,
>just for kicks.

I believe a group hug is needed here!

Om Guru Om,

Gawain

..
http://www.inlink.com/~gawain
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:29:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:What is the "inner smile"
Message-ID: <970526202912_371873119ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>

THAT was beautiful.

By the way, king crustacean, when I return as your guru it will be with a
fork and butter sauce.(If you meet the Buddha in the road, eat him:)
Date: Tue, 27 May 97 01:42:14 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Near-Death-Experience/Kundalini (was Autopost from......)
Message-Id: <M.052697.204214.71ATnospamcenturyinter.net>

I have met so many people with a similar story to my own, yet it never fails to
give me that old eerie feeling when for the thousanth time I read my own
autobiography written by someone elses hand.
 Lindewey
Date: Tue, 27 May 97 01:42:20 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings
Message-Id: <M.052697.204220.15ATnospamcenturyinter.net>

Help!I am drowning in a whirlpool of egotistcial backbiting - save me ,save-me.
I want to be in your sandbox!
Date: Tue, 27 May 97 03:14:39 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The pattern, merkaba warning.
Message-Id: <M.052697.221439.39ATnospamcenturyinter.net>

Bravo Angelique! My thanks to you also.
   Lindewey
Date: Tue, 27 May 97 03:14:48 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: current hurt feelings and misunderstandings
Message-Id: <M.052697.221448.34ATnospamcenturyinter.net>

Kundalini makes me mad. Who is this unfindable , intangible force, that has
dared to wrestle the power of my self control away from me, and how dare anyone
make light of my vulnerable position. If they could only feel what I am going
through, and come to know the utter terror, that quite seriously takes all of
my concentration to stay in. How dare they break my train of thought, and
destract me from my all important and serious process of unravelling the
mystery of the universe, with prows, poetry, and an occasional sarcastic
tickle. I'll show them! I'll tell them exactly what they are - that is assuming
that they don't already know?
      Could it be that because I am angry at the untouchable something, that I
am compelled to give it away to something I can touch? Am I to become the great
nearsighted cobra that strikes at its own shadow, smashing its face upon the
rocks and breaking its fangs? Will I stop at this point, or become even more
enraged? Thrashing and plailing about until I strike something else - alas it
is my own tail - I have poisoned myself into believing that I have killed the
enemy - myself, and i will pridefully die with that great and important
"conviction".
Riddle me this? What is so very important , that the mind thinks it
knows that is worth the wounding of even 1 single heart. What needs to be said,
debated,argued or warred over, in such a swift and devastating way, that we
loose all sight of the great oppurtunity and gift that this file brings us, and
that we are to each other in all of our diversity.
      Suggestion - Chalk it up to a bad hair day - I stuck my finger in the
socket and i got a little shakti. Big deal! Roll over and go back to sleep -
tomorrow is another day.
  Lindewey
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:53:57 -0400
From: "ED O'Connor" <edoconnorATnospampalmnet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Pranayama - nasal irrigation
Message-ID: <3389B215.55A4ATnospampalmnet.net>

Greetings to all !

I've been using this method to clear my nasal passages for about
20 years. The instructions come form the Watson Clinic, in Fla., which
specializes in the treatment of allergies, etc.

"These are directions for you to use with the Birmingham nasal siphon
(obtain a plastic one if available). This irrigation is good to help
clean the nose and sinuses of infection, such as with a head cold,
after operations in the nose, and other sources of nasal irritation,
such as allergy. It is also helpful with a mucous postnasal drip.

Fill the siphon with salt water, slightly warm, mixed with 1/2 teaspoon
of table salt (use kosher) to one cup (8 oz.) of warm distille water;
add nothing else to the mixture. Throw the head back, standing over a
basin. Place the tip of the siphon firmly in the nostrils. Lift the
finger from the top of the funnel. This will allow the liquid to run
into the nose.

Do not worry if some of the salt water flows into your throat. It will
not harm you and is often beneficial from a cleansing standpoint.

Breathe out during this period of time so that it will not make you
cough. Do not be concerned if you cough slightly.

When the nasal cavity is filled, press the finger tightly to the funnel
to stop the flow and remove the siphon from your nose. Hold the liquid
in the nose by pressing the nostrils together, with the fingers, and
throw the head forward. Let the liquid remain in the nose for one to
two minutes, and then allow it ro run into the basin.

Repeat this three times in each nostril, breathing through the mouth
while using the siphon. Do not add any other chemicals to the
irrigation, and do not change the recipe for its use for the nose
may then become irritated.

This procedure is time-proven to be of value and may take a little
practice to learn to perform successfully, but it is well worth the
effort and patience."

The nasal siphon can be purchased at most drug stores - I got mine
at WalMart.

My best to all! Barbara from FL
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 18:17:44
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970525181744.0daf4b64ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Greetings, Lioness:
 Welcome to the list. I have really enjoyed your posts so far, and I hope
you will continue to stay with us. I hope you will stay with us whether
you are finding agreement or not, sometimes it is in testing out thoughts
agains the perspactive of others, that we make them stronger. (Only to have
to chuck them out anyway as attachments when Goddess moves us, anyway...:)

  The most powerful force in the universe, K. she certainly deserves
respect as Goddess, but I think that you sell Her short when you suggest
that which is All is deviod of a sense of humor. IMO, the energy of spirit
is laughter, delight and vast humor.

  For humans humor is often a safety valve, a safe place to release energy
when things are too intense. How many jokes there are about Death, for
example. The bigger the disaster or tradgedy, the more humor will be
created so that we might heal and understand. How many "Heaven's Gate"
jokes have you heard?
  Humor makes hard things easier, and K. can be pretty hard sometimes, when
we are having difficulty releasing the old. Humor helps.

  I believe Goddess has a great sense of humor, and does not take offense
at our using humor and irony to help us cope with Her vagaries. Insisting
on grave seriousness in all things K. related is a grave error, IMO.
  Children re serious when they are afraid of their Teacher. K. does not
wish us to fer her, that is only more separtation -energy.
  How could a being that is Love take offense at silly humans using humor
and sometimes even sarcasm and irony, in our attempts to grasp the vastness
of her magnificence.
  A good teacher would not punish the childlike playful spirit of her
students.

 blessings of big belly laughs and a Goddess who does not punish... Mystress.
 
At 21:55 26/05/97 +0200, LionessATnospamtrust-me.com wrote:
>
>Yogi Tom wrote:
>>
>>words without physical presence and sound of voices can be very
>>misleading, especially when meant ironically......
>>
>Lillemor replies:
>
>I repeat myself, Kundalini forces is not to be threated lightly,
>and it takes a GREAT amount of ethic and seriously and
>humble approach to treat, meet and discuss this forces.
>We can't be ironical about it, it causes tremendous harm,
>that is was causes the situation of the world and of our
>beautiful Mother Earth today.
>Lillemor
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
Message-ID: <970526235904_-928596565ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>

Lobster,

Wish I could find some of the books you listed!! Any sources on the web that
might have some of them?

Thanks,

Kat

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