1997/05/26 04:38
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #249
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 249
Today's Topics:
Pranayama discussion - kriyas
kundalini and flames ...
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: kundalini and flames ...
some more yogic texts
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
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Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: Unreasoning intellect
Re: Lost Tribes-- Book
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Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
Re: Unreasoning intellect
Re: Pranayama discussion - kriyas
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Near-Death-Experience/Kundalini (was Autopost from......)
[Fwd: Re: Unreasoning intellect]
focus
Lobster put in his place again
chakras and community
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 18:47:00 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
Subject: Pranayama discussion - kriyas
Message-ID: <rzs$GbAUsHizEwToATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <M.052597.114221.74ATnospamcenturyinter.net>,
cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net writes
>Tom
> If you could, could you elaborate a bit more on the "nasal washing"
>process,and maybe include a title or publication about it. Thanks Laura
>
hi i think it was joseph who actually mentioned it, but i am proud to
say that i have myself practiced nasal washing under guidance of my guru
in India.......
it's very simple really.
take one glass of luke warm water, optional pinch of salt or squeeze of
lemon juice, and you can either suck water up into the nostrils from the
glass - the easy way - and either swallow the water or try and bring it
back into the mouth and spit it out
or, if you are able to master it, take a mouthful of water, tilt the
head back and then instead of swallowing it , push it up into the nasal
passage as it goes past the tongue into the throat, water should come
out of the nostrils along with accumulated debris.
it can feel rather unpleasant at first, but if your nasal passages
aren't clear then it makes a real difference and prana can really
penetrate the brain more clearly once the crap is cleaned out
when i did it, since i'd been travelling for months amid the heat and
dust of the Indian plains, mucus and blood came pouring out of my nose
when I did it along with some snot, even though i thought my nose was
pretty clear
if doing this on your own, do it in moderation as i think it's possible
that too much water can damage the membrane of the nasal passage.
once a week should do it.
having said that, i haven't done it for years
best not to live in smoggy cities.....
if you have a nasal problem, this might help, and it is unlikely to do
any harm
this use of water for cleansing is good for the stomach and intestines
too
and also for enemas
some yogis drink their own urine too
best to go to a yogi though for guidance, as one can upset the digestive
system if it isn't done right......
but the king of kriyas is taking a nice long crap with plenty of fruit
and fibre in the diet to keep things moving......
one of the biggest sources of all kinds of health problems in the West
is our tendency not to crap when the urge arises but rather to crap at
our own convenience !
i went through a phase with shakti of wanting lots of wholefoods and
roughage and doing really powerful craps that just left me feeling
cleaned out, like someone had scrubbed my colon and given my stomach and
abdomen a good work out.
then i wanted lots of water to clean out the system...
so work with the elements, they are one more means of purifying the
system and making way for shakti....
regards
Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:07:28 -0600
From: jeremiahATnospamouter.net (jeremiah cunningham)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: kundalini and flames ...
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kundalini is a vast topic
many ways to branch off ...
kunkalini fire is love.
don't flame with ego fire;
remind.
remind brothers and sisters
to go private when kundalini spirit
brings them togethher for mutual interest.
interests that are branches,
we will all be here when you get back.
blessed be,
jeremiah
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Date: Sun, 25 May 97 18:35:51 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-Id: <M.052597.133551.35ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
observation 1. Kundalini energy and sexual energy are the same energy, with
possible different directions.
2. Mary standing on serpent = God the Mother manifestor of the
material universe, stands upon sexual union with the non-manifest God the
father in order to creat the world.
St. George conquers the dragon, or wins the battle between the
agrandizment of the lower sexual nature, and the redirection of that energy
into a higher spiritual form.
Michael the Archangel, who has dominion over the serpent is able to
slay the lower animal nature, and through the addition of angelic power can
bring forth the human kingdom from it. The union of the angelic with the devic
realms.
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 18:45:46 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini and flames ...
Message-Id: <M.052597.134546.69ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Appreciate your message, would like to know more about your teas and garden,
and if there are any special herbal teas that can help with kundalini release?
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:08:59 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: some more yogic texts
Message-ID: <GM3E5dA7AIizEwliATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <M.052597.125200.97ATnospamcenturyinter.net>,
cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net writes
>I have found that in looking for "ancient books" on any subject, that half the
>message is in knowing how to read them. A good "Ancient Title" on
>Kundalini,even probably the best, in my estimation, is th Bagavad Gita. This
>book discusses the entire process and just exactly where it takes one, along
>with the pit-falls - if one knows how to read it. Other writings include many
>Catholic works and biographies on the saints, their passions and sufferings. I
>am sure that there are many others. One other that I found helpful was "The
>100,000 Songs of Milarepa", and a new biography of his life, put out I think by
>Shambala Press Publishers.
Milarepa is great.
Try too The Lotus Born - The Life of Padma Sambhava, also published by
Shambala.
And Dakini Teachings, also by Shambala I think.
regards
Yogi Tom
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:32:36 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
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cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net wrote:
>
> observation 1. Kundalini energy and sexual energy are the same energy, with
> possible different directions.
> 2. Mary standing on serpent = God the Mother manifestor of the
> material universe, stands upon sexual union with the non-manifest God the
> father in order to creat the world.
> St. George conquers the dragon, or wins the battle between the
> agrandizment of the lower sexual nature, and the redirection of that energy
> into a higher spiritual form.
> Michael the Archangel, who has dominion over the serpent is able to
> slay the lower animal nature, and through the addition of angelic power can
> bring forth the human kingdom from it. The union of the angelic with the devic
> realms.
Excellent interpretation. Gloria
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:08:08 -1000 (HST)
From: Raja Bose <sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Lots of Kundalini activity in my spine, the middle and the heart area. My middle back seems to have a constant energy buzz, a ball of energy. It's constantly their. My heart is different, the muscles spasm up and it,s like I have a knot back their at times thats trying to uncurl. Entire back is aching. Feel like getting a massage. I'm staying with father, relationship not good, guess it's changing. Sorta spaced out, something says to go back to Harbin, a place where I was staying before comming here. Intuition feels sorta right, but I'm waiting for a stronger message.
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:17:07 -0500
From: Max Prescott <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <3388BA63.5151ATnospamwin.bright.net>
Tom,
I work with St. Michael a lot. He really helps me release fears that
are no longer needed, and also assists me in letting go of blocks that I
have due to past lives, injury, etc. I find that my best times for
working with him are right before I go to bed. Maybe that would be a
good time for you to connect with him and see why he is knocking. Good
luck. Love and Light, Colleayn
>
> Yogi Tom
>
> ps the point to this is that St Michael keeps on knocking at my door in
> unexpected ways, but i'm not quite sure what he's telling me.....
> --
> Tom Aston
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 21:26:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <970525212636_-496277533ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
If you're not all sick of the Mormon perspective yet, here's a quickie.
We believe that the archangel Michael is Father Adam. (We believe in more
than one label for some Biblical characters - The angel Gabriel is Noah,
etc.)
There are teachings that say that Adam (Michael) has ascended to Godhood, and
shares the stewardship for this earth with Mother Eve. (We believe in many
populated worlds, and that many of God's children have become one with the
Father and are now Gods themselves.)
This kind of stuff really bugs the other Christian denominations.
(The reference to SAINT Michael threw me for a loop, I'm only familiar with
him as an "archangel". The way I always understood it was that a saint was an
individual that had been canonized by the church. Though ALL of the members
of the early Christian church were referred to as saints, simply for having
taken the name of Christ upon themselves.)
Mormon doctrine is loaded with arcane mysteries, but the Church is REAL
conservative.
Best to all!
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 21:45:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: w60ATnospamdial.pipex.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unreasoning intellect
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Lobster,
Thanks for, in the words of Rumi, polishing my mirror.
It is not vanity that makes me seek to obey the commandments of God, but love
for my Creator.
Maybe the misunderstanding is in that I don't know what you mean when you say
that I don't know what I know, and don't even know what I do know.
You know? (I don't know...)
Let me wade through your posting a couple of times and see if I can figure
out what you are feeling so threatened about.
Here's to Peace in our hearts!
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 22:13:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Lost Tribes-- Book
Message-ID: <970525221311_270866312ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
Brenda,
Thanks for the reading suggestion!
To set the record straight, the Book Of Mormon teaches that (some of ) the
tribal peoples of the American continents are descended from people that were
led by a prophet (Lehi) out of Jerusalem in the year 600 BC, before the
inhabitants were taken captive by the Babylonians.(Talk about your run-on
sentences!)
(For those that have trouble swallowing the admittedly unusual claims of this
book, I invite you to read it with as open of a mind as you can muster and
pray with a sincere heart to know if its teachings are true. I expect no one
to take my word on it, in fact Mormons are commanded to find out for
themselves, and not really on someone else's word.)
Because of these beliefs I prize all of the authentic Native American
teachings that I can find. Many of them independently confirm the teachings
of the Book of Mormon.
However, I realize that this list is not my personal soapbox for
Mormon-Recruiting. I just want people to know where I'm coming from and where
I'm at. I do promise that I'll never cop a self-righteous attitude
intentionally, and I'd appreciate it if people would let me know if I ever
make them feel uncomfortable while expressing my sincere beliefs.
Thanks again for suggesting Carey's "Return of the Bird Tribes"!
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:45:28 -1000 (HST)
From: Raja Bose <Sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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I'm having a lot of energy feelings in my scrotum area, it does'nt hurt,
sometimes feels good, my cheeks and face also react at the same time.
Back still acting up, it aches, and the muscles knot up when the energy
wants to pass. These feelings don't bother me too much, I'm kinda glad
I'm releasing. What bothers me is staying at my fathers house. It's
a day to day thing, most of the time it does'nt feel right to be here.
We don't get along to well, I hold a lot of rage and resentment against
him, he scarred the living shit outa me most of the time I was growing
up, the inner child still is scared of him. He's a very controlling
person. You say he can only control you as much as you allow him to.
Your right, but my inner child still unsure, but getting stronger. Perhaps
I need a shrink to sort things out, I dunno. Intuition says go to
Harbin, I'm waiting to see if it remains so.
Then you say I should leave. Guess your right. But kinda scared of
the fact that I'm finacially not too well off. Guess I could go back
to previous place of living, Harbin Hot Springs, and stay their a while
until things get internally settled.
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:23:14 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Larry Killen <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
CC: Susan Smith <smithsATnospamscis.acast.nova.edu>,
LDS Missionaries <roadwarriorsldsATnospammindspring.com>,
Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
Liz Madan <liz_madanATnospamilinks.net>, Roger Bredow <qmsATnospamamerica.net>,
David Randall <randallATnospamellijay.com>,
"Tom O'Flynn" <Tom_O'FlynnATnospambmgmusic.com>,
Michael Kieinheinz <patkATnospambellsouth.net>, Jeff Embry <AA6ATnospamaol.com>,
Mom Killen <ltkreaderATnospamaol.com>,
Bob & Vincene Killen <RTKwriterATnospamaol.com>,
Aaron Jason Killen <akillenATnospamawod.com>,
Muriel & Mark Emerson <dov10ATnospamaol.com>, Linda Drum <lkylyndaATnospamaol.com>,
Tom & Loretta Beuche <jtbuecheATnospamaol.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
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Hi Larry,
That was awesome, where did you get it?
Amused,
Lissette
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:28:18 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unreasoning intellect
Message-ID: <19970526.002819.11222.8.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Ronnie Gee said....
>Maybe the misunderstanding is in that I don't know what you mean when
>you say>that I don't know what I know, and don't even know what I do
know.
>
>You know? (I don't know...)
Ronnie, I'm sure our favorite house Lobster will give a most enlightening
answer that I am looking forward to reading, but I will give you another
thought to think of, which is only from my experiences of knowing and not
knowing....
I've found that as soon as I thought I *knew* something, I would think,
of course, that that was the *truth* (whether the knowing was received
from experiences, a more knowledgeable person, or even revelations).
On my particular path, it is important to me to always keep an open mind,
especially since I've discovered exactly what Lobster was trying to say
to you.
So, I get this certain *truth*, and of course wanting to get on top of my
soapbox and yell it to the world. But keeping an open mind to further
truth's, would bring, eventually, another *truth*, which totally
eliminated the original truth I had.
After getting awfully frustrated time and time again with what I thought
was true, I finally realize that I really don't know anything about
anything.
A red flag for me is when I think I know something. That tells me to
'open your mind girl'....
Therefore, when I finally admit to myself that 'I don't know' (when I
open mind), is when I find out the truth. And then I know.
And then it starts all over again.
Something like that.
(and this particular *truth* - about knowing & not knowing - is something
I know. Those damn red flags! Now I gotta open my mind once again.)
Forget what I said - not true anymore.
Lots of Love,
xxxtg
"It's like deja vu all over again."
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 01:05:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pranayama discussion - kriyas
Message-ID: <970526010512_779148899ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Regarding clearing nasal passages for pranayama....
I just attended my first weekend of yoga practice (can barely move now), and
one of the methods for clearing nasal passages that was imparted by the
"sharer" who conducted the classes (he did not want to be called "Swami"
although he had been a Hindu monk for sixteen years) was to apply upward
pressure under the opposite armpit of the nostril which is blocked. For
example, if the left nostril was blocked, he had you use the left hand to
press up and under the right armpit, and vice versa. If both nostrils were
blocked, you were to apply pressure to both armpits simulanesously until the
nostrils cleared.
As a newcomer to yoga, I may not be in a position to evaluate the nature of
the guidance I received, but as a common-garden-variety human, I can say that
the generosity, genuineness, humility, and enthusiasm of my first guru has
left me stunned at the privilege and perplexity of being a human.
Peg, AKA The Kundalini Kindergartener
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:11:58 -1000 (HST)
From: Sandy Ranhorn <SANDYLRANATnospamAOL.COM>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199705260511.TAA17884ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hey Folks....So glad to have found this resource on the net....have been
asking questions forever trying to find people who have done more than
just read about this but acutally experience it in earnest.....here's
my story....
The only consistant thing I have ever done in my life is search for a
God of my understanding...I am 47 years old and my spiritual experiences
have been vast....I was involved in the new age stuff before the new age
stuff was cool....if ya know what I mean.....I was driven to search..
insatiably so..
In 1982 I had a near death experience in which I had my first out of body
experience. I literally died and came back...it changed me dramatically.
I began researching and practicing various forms of meditation
and learned about the kundalini...going out of body...levitation and so
forth...I also stayed in an ashram with a guru who taught me how to a
awaken the kundalini...
After I left the ashram...I began to have some very frightening out of
body experiences and one night during meditation was "taken" to another
plane of existence where it was explained to me that I was NOT ready for
what I was trying to accomplish and that it was also very dangerous. And
that I would "know" when it was time to begin again. I never entered that
type of meditation again...
I believe that during that time I did awaken the kundalini...I have had
various sleep disturbances. Each night since then I experience my
entire body "vibrates" at a very high level...I can feel the sensation of
warmth travel from my lower back up through my chest and the back of my
throat...then my head begins to feel tremendous pressure....
I can then stay in twilight sleep for hours with "visions" of all sorts
of people and places...almost akin to lucid dreams...some nights I stay
there all night...somenights...I travel...and visit friends...
I had thought that it has been just an overactive immagination on my
part...
I can tell you that I am not the same person from the 80's...I have
been forced to deal with all my issues from childhood..and change my
attitude toward the world at large...I have very few unresolved issues
and am very much at peace with myself and those around me....I just
don't know what the next step in my development is...
I would appreciate any feedback...and hearing about similiar experiences.
I am profoundly grateful to have found this resource...
Sandy from Fl
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:40:04 +0200
From: LionessATnospamtrust-me.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Near-Death-Experience/Kundalini (was Autopost from......)
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Hi Sandy,
It didn't take long before there was someone with similar
experiences on this list......I subscribed this night and
now this morning your letter was in my mail-box.
WE HAVE SO MUCH SIMILAR PATHS.....
MY, GOD !
My name is Lillemor and I'm 37, despite my young age (most of my
closest friends are in the 50ies) I've been going through A LOT.
1980 I had my Near-Death-Experience, and there was the
end to ordinary life.
I ended my whole entire life after that, to take responsibility for who I
really was, I couldn't hide myself, there was absolutely no choise whatsoever.
I had to begin to take my spiritual abilities seriously - I was raised of a
very
spiritual mother, and had a psychic grandmother, both of them were dead,
which definitely not was a limitation for us to have contacts, but I had to
stop denying who I was...........because I couldn't speak with people
around me,
I held everything to myself.........but I couldn't that anymore.
I just had to let Everything go............work, friends, family too for
periods.
And so have my life continued ever after........
After I returned from the Source of Creation, with the Fireball, which I always
call it, in my hands and in my heart, birning, to take on the
challenge...........
To confront the pain inside, which was vast......
But I also knew, that it didn't matter what I met inside of pain, of fears,
of grief etc.
I COULDN'T DIE........THERE WAS NO DEATH !!!!!.........AND I KNEW IT !!!!!!!
So after left everything.......I also found a guru/ spirit and yogi man
that had the
wisdom I needed to have to don't go cracy through all explosions of Kundalini -
it's not only one, it's a continuing experience......to surrender to the
source of
creation.
I never met him in person, but our contact didn't get smaller by that,
quite the opposite,
as our inner and spiritualunion was extraordinary.
He initiated me to the secrets of Yoga and knew how to handle all this
explosivity
and sensitivity that comes with these kinds of extraordinary experiences.
No Sandy, we don't remain much the same after things like this, it's a gift
to let
go of the ego-personality and finding the SELF, even though the journey and the
lack of identity that are between is NOT an easy way to walk on.
It takes a hell of a lot of courage and strength and will to continuing
sometimes,
which I'm sure you are very aware of.
But it is a gift, a great gift !
I've been struggling 16 years with my insurance-company to win the process,
people thought I was mad when I 1980 began to talk about things like this,
I guess I as well was ahead 'the time' ........it was a lesson to learn to
become
in synch with 'the world'........I suppose that's the lesson of the pioneer
that
always moves into regions of the psyche before the mass.
Anyway I finally won the process and struggle against all the authorities last
summer..........
so I'm also in Great Peace now, in synchroncity with everything, stronger then
ever, radiant and laughing and knowing who I AM............
What Starsign are you by the way ?, I'm also an astrologer, shaman,
painter........
and a very intense and sensitive Scorpio.
Much Love to you,
Lillemor
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:26:02 -0700
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Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:18:42 -0700
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GlasmeowATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Lobster,
>
> Thanks for, in the words of Rumi, polishing my mirror.
> It is not vanity that makes me seek to obey the commandments of God, but love
> for my Creator.
My Dear Friend,
You are not wrong. Here we must talk a little of paradox. To Love your
Creator with all your Mind, Body and Soul - you must give them all up.
Those working with kundalini, go beyond their present understanding to a
deeper more enduring Love, the longing in the body they devote to a
deeper worship, they abandon their very soul to that in them which is
highest, constantly discarding and looking for the highest of the High.
> Maybe the misunderstanding is in that I don't know what you mean when you say
> that I don't know what I know, and don't even know what I do know.
mmm . . .
The Kingdom is within.
How many of us can say we know anything?
> You know? (I don't know...)
>
> Let me wade through your posting a couple of times and see if I can figure
> out what you are feeling so threatened about.
>
> Here's to Peace in our hearts!
My Dear Friend,
When there is peace in the Heart, there is nothing to feel. So gently
now I will talk of projection:
Imagine that you have no imagination. That a person comes and goes as
easily as your own thoughts. You react to that in them which is best. So
they react to their own imagination. You are the polished mirror and
people see themselves reflecting.
Now - whatever you are thinking is just imagination.
Most Kind Regards
the imaginary Lobster
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:40:51 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: focus
Message-ID: <3389AF03.1F6FATnospamdial.pipex.com>
LionessATnospamtrust-me.com wrote:
> WE HAVE SO MUCH SIMILAR PATHS.....
> MY, GOD !
Dear Sandy and Lillemor,
Welcome to somewhere different. Your spiritual expereinces are most
amusing. have you learnt anything to share with us?
> so I'm also in Great Peace now, in synchroncity with everything, stronger then
> ever, radiant and laughing and knowing who I AM............
Nice.
In spiritual terms you have barely begun. All this hocus pocus does not
focus.
> I COULDN'T DIE........THERE WAS NO DEATH !!!!!.........AND I KNEW IT !!!!!!!
Nice.
Prepare to die.
"The only consistant thing I have ever done in my life is search for a
God of my understanding"
mmm . . .
Understanding God - now there is an impossibility . . .
"I just don't know what the next step in my development is...
I am profoundly grateful to have found this resource..."
My Dear Sisters,
We are greatful for the presence of all our friends.
What makes you think you have taken the first step?
Most Kind Regards
Lobster (out of step again)
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 09:06:20 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Lobster put in his place again
Message-ID: <3389B4FC.2EATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Lobster wrote:
> Again the easy path is for those who are not going anywhere - there is
> no easy path. Perhaps you think I am being a little hard on you? Perhaps
> you can see why this is needed and if you can then you will continue to
> agree with me . . .
> Trusting in God is not in reading the rules of the Heaven club! Trusting
> in God means returning good for bad - go to it. Let's see how its done .
> . .
brenda asterino wrote (in a private email - neti ket?):
> I appreciate the sincerity of your comments. My educaton is limitless.
> Knowledge is not usually wisdom. You may have misunderstood my comment or I
> may have not said enough. I will not fear whatever experience I have. I
> know that God would never give me anything that was bad.
>
> Thank you for your concern...... I have no cares in this regard.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 06:50:03 -0400
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: chakras and community
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970526105003.00693820ATnospamdragonbbs.com>
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Would anyone like to speak more about chakras? I thought over the years I
had gleaned at least a basic understanding. However, a friend and I are
aware of other openings happening on our bodies... like another set of
chakras on the back as well as the front.... I especially feel them
behind my heart and throat chakras. We have also been aware of more
communal type experiences. Where I might experience the Oneness or the
Void, etc. as an individual communing with something greater than myself...
now this is happening with others at the same time. We are having shared
experiences at the same time with the Oneness. I do not consider these
psychic (in the sense of mental) in nature. Comments?
Brenda
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