1997/05/15 11:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #235
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 235
Today's Topics:
Re: Welcome Duality: Gloria's IMAGE Prison....KA-BOOOOOMMM!
Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
Re: Panic Attacks & Fear
Re: What witch?
Re: Kabir
Re: What witch?
More thoughts on Re: What witch?
Glorious Mystery, aboard the S.S. K-list, Lost at Sea
Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
RE: Kabir
Re: oriental music
Re: panic attacks and fear
Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:12:45
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Subject: Re: Welcome Duality: Gloria's IMAGE Prison....KA-BOOOOOMMM!
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At 02:17 14/05/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>Gloria Greco wrote:
<...>
>> I'm not going to go back through that long tirade, so I snipped the
>> whole thing..
I am very glad you have learned to snip. Dismissing my thoughts as a
tirade is easier than actually looking at what is there, isn't it?
The path of least resistance. I understand perfectly.
In defending ourselves to detractors we only show our need for their
aproval. An "Interrogator game". I am glad you saw through it, coz I
didn't, when I wrote it.
>>
>> First, This has been building for a while, hasn't it? The attack three
>> nights ago left marks on my physical body!!! YOur visits have not been
>> as a friendly list keeper but as a witch with dark intent, your responce
>> to me when I brought it up to you a couple of days ago was 'my slaves
>> are protective, I can't help that'. You didn't deny the projection or
>> the intent...
You are misquoting me, of course. I made it very clear that I do not
consider the discarnate entities that gather around me as my slaves.
What is most interesting to me about this, is that usually it is only
very submissive maschochistic persons who find value in percieving
themselves as my "victim". Hmmmm....
The connection between modern maschocists and historical martyrs becomes
ever clearer.
<...> But that you are constantly getting spirits coming to you,
>they are using your energy to focus and direct negative or positive
>depending where you are in the moment.
Your Holy Spirit has used you in this very well, Gloria, Blessed be...
>Protect yourself, don't just
>open to whatever comes to you, test it first, and then work at getting
>yourself into the heart center.In the heart center you won't be
>thinking, feeling, or fighting, and you certainly won't hate anyone.
Excellent advice, Gloria. Please take it.
It upsets me to hear you are being plagued by entities that can only be
manifested, and do harm through your fear of them. By fearing them you feed
thier existence and become vulnerable.
When the heart chakra is fully open, we become invulnerable to harm....
Love truly is the most powerful force.
>>
>>
>> The black cat being a form used by Satanic forces... wasn't just
>> attacking, it was satanic and you clearly communicated your intent to me
in the experience. But, you were crazy with rage, and your spiritual body
or etheric energy was used. And, yet you'd say there are no lower forces,(
after the other letter, you feel a connection to spirits no matter what
form they come in, and a distrust for God...actually fear of God as though
your creator is going to destroy you.
And so it ends as it began, with you insisting Witches are Satanic. And
you wonder why I mistook you for the Witch Hunters of old.
Now I am finding you funny as Church Lady. I laughed so hard at this post
I nearly had an orgasm. Big healing! Thank you so much!
Why do you let these things get to you, Gloria? Doesn't the virgin Mary
protect you from this stuff? She will, if you let Her.
I don't have malicous forces attacking me and leaving marks.
Oh, but that is becuse I am in league with Satan sorry, I forgot...
(giggling like rover does... and I realize with wonder and sadness that the
Witches never thought to defend themselves by laughing thier butts off at
the accusations made of them... how funny! How sad! I feel the power of my
cosmic laughter resonating back through time. This is really wonderful!!
The truth makes you laugh and cry at once.)
I am trying to think of a time in my life when I have been "crazy" with
rage... maybe that time when I was 8, when I very briefly considered
suicide as a way to upset my Mom. Definitely not recently. Of course, I
might simply be crazy, in which case I am probably deluding myself about my
rage.
Have you considered that the Malicous forces you believe in might be
impersonating me to reinforce your predjudices? Or to get you to see them
so they can be healed?
Or maybe it *was* me doing precisely that... heck, it worked!!!
I find that they get my attention because they want my unconditional
Love, to be healed and sent on or accepted, forgiven and set free. It only
becomes a problem when I am afraid that I don't have love enough to give to
them.
>
<...>
>> But, you see I know that yes, it is an illusion, and yes there is
>> purpose for all things. And, yes there is no accident me sending the
>> mail to you. I have stayed in the flow with this to see how God
>> would use it, actually feeling very positive that we could work with
>> love through this and maybe build some bridges in the meantime.
Am I working with love or Satan, Chrrch Lady??
Could it be that Satan loves you, and is only maifesting for you so that
you might get beyond duality and learn to love him unconditionally as a
creation of God?
I feel the power of the Great, Great Love you carry, and I wonder if it
has ever occured to you to use the power of that love to heal Satan, and
bring him back into unity? Stop messing around with Witches and spirits,
and take it to the top, so to speak. (Or the bottom, I guess I mean...
sorry, I'm not used to this "evil" concept..) Go, Girrrl! You can do it!
You know that Satan has only as much power over you as you give to him
with your fear. Stop fearing him, and start loving him. If anybody needs
your healing love, surely it is He. Perhaps he is the greatest Angel,
willing sacrifice being loved to play the bad guy and accept all of your
fear and hatred and mirror it back to you so you can get past it?
>
>I am very glad I received the direct letter from you because I can see
>that you have confusion about a lot that is happening and assume I'm
>having the same experience. I'm not, its different.
I am happy you enjoyed my letter. I never presumed you are having the
same experience as me, except for the image thing. You are certain of your
"truth".
Confusion is excellent, IMHO. When I think I have found "truth", that is
when my beliefs have come to a ridgid stand still that will not allow room
for new ideas. . a stuck place.
As I put in the other post:
Robert Anton Wilson (author of the Illuminati chronicles) says he is
suspicous of anyone who says they have the "truth" because that person has
stopped thinking. It is in our admissions of ignorance that we make room
for new information.
Thus, I cherish my uncertainty.
He also says the Truth makes you laugh, that is how we can recognize it.
And when we really understand it, it makes you cry. It seems like truth is
another duality.
Whenever I think something is "true" it is my habit to look at it's
opposite and see if that is also "true". Lobster-like. The exceptions
proving the rules.
Often the two opposite perspectives melt into a whole insight, that is
bigger than the sum of it's parts. The grey space of detachment from
polarities that Morgana mentioned.
It seems from the Eastern perspective that every "truth" is just another
level of illusion to overcome. In any case, it is an intellectual concept,
and I prefer to go on internal resonance or dissonance. Emotion tells the
truth of being.
> I'm not used by
>spirits that come to me, there is a very big difference in working in
>Divine Will and the will of disembodied spirits.
I think I would feel pretty badly "used" if I had negative spirits
attacking me... "used" as a rape victim feels "used".
> The only way you can be certain that doesn't happen is
>that you turn it over to your mother diety which I suspect is Mother
>Mary. You are comfortable with female, talk to her about it. Make peace
>with yourself and the Christians, you know they died right along with
>the witches as did the Jews, Moslems, Indians, Tiebetans, on and on.
Recommending that I pray to Mary has got me giggling again... giggle
giggle giggle, ...peace has been made. Thankyou.
I turned my self over to my "Mother" Diety long ago, and She is much
older than 2000 years. Older by far than the planet itself. Too vast to fit
into the confines of a name, to vast for me to behold but bits and pieces
of Her splendor.
I call her "She", "Goddess", because I seek to understand by naming, in
my primitive way... but even in so doing I limit Her by thinking of Her as
female. Even in thinking of her as Diety, I limit Her in my perceptions by
the separating Her from me. She is everything, limitless, so She must also
be ME. If I am "Goddess", then truly there can be nothing to fear.
The more you tell me of what I must do to be "safe", the more I
understand how truly afraid you are that the Duality is out to get you. The
more compassion that I feel for you, in the loneliness of your fear prison.
It feels like my heart chakra is trying to burst out of my chest, like it
will vaporize the physical form that holds it.
I am struggling with my feelings of awe, knowing it, too, is a part of
belief in separation. I love you, Gloria. I love you so much that it
astonishes me, this love is so much bigger than me I must surrender to it
without reservation.
I think to apologise for the fear I have caused you, and Goddess gently
laughs at me for the persistence with which I try to hang onto regrets, in
the face of such utter perfection. I can only shake my head, and thank you
for the amazing gifts you have given me in the expression of your pain and
fear, and your love that is so much much larger than the fears that seek to
keep it bound.
It renders me mute, I have to stop typing. Trying to fit it into words is
only more limitation.
Blessings way bigger than me, Angelique.
>
>God Bless you. I cut about half of his letter because of your direct
>letter to me. I will read it again and then get back to you.
>Gloria
>>
PS: I went off and thought about it for awhile, and I decided It's
perfectly OK. with me if you want to believe I am Satan, I am beginning to
really understand what a truly great fella he is... wow! He plays the bad
guy and manifests our pain and fear, but never past our limits... (we are
never given anything we cannot handle) so that we might have the experience
of being stronger that the pain and fear that is manifest, and so heal.
And that is exactly what I do.. Satan is a Brilliant Dominatrix! Awesome!!
I am now totally impressed with Satan, it almost makes me wanna believe
in Him.
I am tempted to compliment you, too, and tell you that you played "demon"
for me *very* well, and you are a brilliant Dominatrix. You deserve an
Oscar. I don't think you will take that as a compliment, tho... so I will
just send you Unconditional Love, and my eternal gratitude.
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:31:25 -0800 (AKDT)
From: maeror <fsjra5ATnospamaurora.alaska.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
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On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dolce Vita wrote:
> > Tom, it must feel really good to be on the spiritual high road.
> >
> > Yesterday, I spent the entire day on the locked ward of a psychiatric
> > hospital. Judging from your stated opinions, I think it might do you some
> > good to do the same.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Ken
>
> Hey, were here to post opinions, not everyone has to be in agreement
> with Prozac and psychiatric drugs. I dont believe Tom said that to
> offend you, or your condition in particular, but it wouldn't hurt at all
> if you look at other alternatives, this is what were sharing this for...
> dont you think?
> With Love and "respect" (very important)
> Lissette
I don't believe Ken has dismissed alternative treatments. The pro-drug
side has not done that at all; however, I did challenge the 'other side'
to provide a cure for bipolar disorder. The anti-drug side has decided to
say that all drugs are bad and alternative treatment is the _only_ route a
person should try.
So what are the alternatives? The anti-drug side claims the psychiatric
profession never cured someone with bipolar disorder and other similar
illnesses. What then is the cure? I might as well declare all modern
medicine invalid because we cannot yet cure genetic diseases... we can
_treat_ them, but not cure them, and those treatments often have side
effects which vary from person to person.
People who have awakened kundalini have more sensitive systems. The vast
majority of people who suffer from severe depression have not awakened
kundalini, so that should not be a relevant factor in your answer.
Different things work for different people. Prozac doesn't work for one
person so he tries something else. Prozac has a terrible effect on one
person, and a wonderful effect on another. Drugs are not right for you,
but they are right for someone else.
This should end the debate:
How can you cure bipolar disorder, schitzophrenia, and other illnesses
without drug treatments of any kind? What are these alternative
treatments, and are they guaranteed to work? No divine intervention or
platitudes. No mystical power from within. Most people suffering from
these illnesses cannot fight it alone.
If all drug treatments are bad, what else is there? Be specific.
--
"I miss the comfort in being sad"
-Kurt Cobain
"Either this wallpaper goes or I do."
-last words of Oscar Wilde
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:32:54 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: tg xxx <imtgATnospamjuno.com>
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Panic Attacks & Fear
Message-ID: <337986C1.35AFATnospamintercomm.com>
YOu turned it over to God, and let go it works every time. I t is just
so simple that folks fail to use the obvious. Gloria
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:45:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: What witch?
Message-ID: <3379FA1D.5B13ATnospamintercomm.com>
E Jason wrote:
>
> Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> > Protect yourself, don't just
> > open to whatever comes to you, test it first, and then work at getting
> > yourself into the heart center.In the heart center you won't be
> > thinking, feeling, or fighting, and you certainly won't hate anyone.
>
> In my opinion Gloria is a Christ centered person. This means there is
> only Love in her posts - however they may appear. People may not care
> for A Christian Expression but it is what is behind that. What is there
> - is Love.
>
> Most Kind Regards
> Ed Jason
Ed,
Hi, I'm glad you could feel my intent here. I'm afraid it is not
understood or appreciated by Mystress, thats ok, I reached out to her in
love. Gloria
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:51:09 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, bob crowder <bobATnospamakasha.net>
Subject: Re: Kabir
Message-ID: <+A+KqDAt$kezEwiHATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <01BC6084.F430A6F0ATnospamBOB>, bob crowder <bobATnospamakasha.net> writes
>Dear Jason,
>Please do know that the words are of the Mystic/Saint Kabir. The quote is just
>that ....a quote.
>
>
>Subject: Re: Kabir
>
>bob crowder wrote:
>
>> The Tongue Deviseth Mischief
>>
>> In futile discussion is much poison;
>> In much talk is great mischief.
>> Keep you mouth shut; suffer all in silence;
>> And remember the Name Unfathomable.
>
>
may i add a little quote from Kabir that i keep close to hand for when
things are getting a little confused - it's been with me for many years
now and never let me down.....
"Listen, my friend.
There is one thing in the world that satisfies,
and that is a meeting with the one who lives in your heart."
regards
Yogi Tom
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:30:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What witch?
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It is time to consider the difference between showing and telling.
Showing has more impact and veracity than telling. You know?
If that does not resonate within, there is something called
"turing the other cheek" which has been used successfully in
similar situations.
Please consider one or the other of these approaches if possible.
Maximum return on investment is assured.
Most sincerely,
M
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:27:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: More thoughts on Re: What witch?
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Time spent in defensiveness could be much better used:
feeding the homeless
teaching ghetto youth to read
nursing the poorest of the poor
wraping bandages for our wounded
cleaning closets
shampooing a dog
doing a jig
reading a mediocre book
watching reruns of Seinfeld
twiddling one's thumbs
Any of these activities is infinitely healthier than lots of the
recent keyboarding exercises we've seen. ;-}
IMHO and still fondly,
(but who knows how much longer I can keep that up!)
M
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:39:30 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Glorious Mystery, aboard the S.S. K-list, Lost at Sea
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Honeys, and all Eagles, in the Making,
I think, you have all carried this, too far, knock it off , for a while, and
think,
and "sit " on it , so to speak, for, I am a High Angel, and the lowest,
Manesfested
Angel, of a I AM, a HUMAN, and don't you forget it, so, the next time I see,
on Ravin' Raven's K- Letter Line, any sign, of an extroadinaryly, uplifted
Angel, or an Over-Satisfied, Witch of Green Ways and Means, I will do, what
I can,
and whip them all, with an Eagle-Feathered, covered tip, and shake a cane,
in their direction,
because, Ravin' Raven is up, to no good, either, she is up, to her neck, in
self-pity
of the 3rd kind, extra-spirituallyof a Reality,that, no one can dispute,
because, she does not think, she is good enough, to be her own Guru, so, she
woke up one day, and Lordie, Lordie, there we go, she is endowed with
powers, beyond her, imagination, and perhaps,
control, let this be a lession, to you all, on this K- list, that you can not
stop, Mother Nature, when, she is on a Tirade, She is something to behold,
and, it is about time, that Women, in General, get off their Duffs, and
their Behinds, and start
standing up, for themselves, like Men have, for eons,of time, for their own
enrichment, and Men, start Weeping with joy,with relief, and feel sorry for
themselves, down on their feet,
begging, to take it back, because, Women are to take up, Their Reigns of
Power, for the Men, if they don't stop, their futile efforts at controlling,
the World's Banks, and Earth's Resources, like,the Green Rain Forests, Now,
tell me this if this doesn't sound, like, the perfect resolution,
Spirit loves spirit loves loves spirit loves spirit loves spirit loves
spirit spirit
Let us make room, for harmony, so, we can go free,
anybody, who just, disagrees, is a fine fellow, by me,
but, when, agony's darts anger, and frustration, slings arrows, and things,
I will take a real swing, at the troubled souls, that God, does make grow,
for me to handle them, with Eagle feathers,
I know, this may sound strange, but, you and I are brothers, of the same
tribe,
We are an assorted, collection of different religions, and Ways, and, I mean
this, may God tan my soul, if I am going to say Rainbow Warriors, of the
Indian Path,
for I, have been that Way, for many years, yes, I am, too, and you better
not, get
in my Way, for it is, a hazardess thing to be, if you love, too much, and I
did and do....I love myself, way too much, to argue with you, for it causes
spiritual pains, that we don't agree, and that is a big deal, to me, for you
can't take it far, or drive your car, with disharmony, while, I have
realized, that life on earth is full, of surprises, nothing, surprises me more
than, a guru in the making, having fun doing the dirty work, of resolution
two conflicting birds of opinion, in the left and right hands,of a Tribe of
men, and fallen angels, trying to decide, which hand of God, is more
important, the right or the left, He needs both, for the creation to Exist......
Ravin' Raven ~V~
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 01:02:50 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: maeror <fsjra5ATnospamaurora.alaska.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
Message-ID: <3379477A.2E1EATnospambridge.net>
You said,
> If all drug treatments are bad, what else is there?> >Be specific.
We're getting old while talking about the psych drugs and getting no
where. In the end everyone is going to do whatever they feel is best for
them. This is just a way of exploring one another's opinions.
What else is there?.. Holistic medicine...for whoever doesn't like
drugs, for instance Louise Hay was declared a lost case with cancer, and
she cured herself with affirmations, treatments of going to the nature
of the problem, not putting patches over the wound... but then again,
lets close the issue.It good to exchange all this wonderful information
and know the nature of the problems of some of the list members, that
tell their struggles and successes, and pour their hearts for the
benefit of other souls.Thank you all,God bless you.
Love always,
Lissette
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:00:00 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Kabir
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Dear Jason,
Please do know that the words are of the Mystic/Saint Kabir
The quote is just that ....a quote.
Subject: Re: Kabir
bob crowder wrote:
The Tongue Deviseth Mischief
In futile discussion is much poison;
In much talk is great mischief.
Keep you mouth shut; suffer all in silence
in alchemical wars
And remember the Name Unfathomable
In alchemy we say:
In the beginning was the word. Before the word
was the thought.
Ed Jason
Jason,
Who is the we you are referring to here?
Word is the same as Name Unfathomable. Name, Word, Om, Holy
Spirit....Nothing before this. Before the beginning.
[Bob Crowder
--------
Hello,
If one thinks of a God independent of His creation, he thought of it, loved the
idea of it, and then did it, the Word could be the first thing that came out
of the mouth of the God, and, it was the first created thing, of the Creation,
the Word being the Messianic Holy Spirit Cosmic Sun Mirror, if you will,
that, reflected the thoughts, and HolyWill of the original Creator, God outside
his Creation. The Holy Will of God, eminated from the Mirror Word of God
and Sound, resulted, which create light, then on down, the spectrum of matter,
the spiritual universes, to the physical star systems, to last, but, not least,
the polished mirror, in the heart, of a good soul, of mankind, who, has
free will,
to turn the mirror back, to God's Light and Sound,the Messianic and Divine
Realities, and, release the Sun's Holy Light in the mirror
of his heart of gold, purified by life's tests, and difficulties, from, the
dross of ego's hangups, this is alchemy of life.
I am you and you are me and we are all together, in victory and celebration
of the Spirit of God on this Earth in this time and place in history.cc
>O SON OF MAN!
Veiled in My immemorial being and in the ancient eternity of my essence, I
knew my love for thee;
therefore I created thee, have engraved on thee Mine image and revealed
to thee My beauty...Baha u llah
Victoria
~V~
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:22:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: oriental music
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Look for Lata Maheshgankar.She sings the bagadvat - gita.
Date: Thu, 15 May 97 13:41:17 EDT
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: panic attacks and fear
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Anyone who needs it....
I know them well and I have beaten them 100% without drugs and my life has
never been better. If I can do it you can do it. If anyone wants to talk
e-mail me.
Don't panic,
Here if you want to chat.
Mo :-)
(The lighthearted traveller going on 5 years without a panic/anxiety attack)
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:26:17 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: maeror <fsjra5ATnospamaurora.alaska.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: psychiatric drugs can be useful shit...if you really want them
Message-ID: <337AD6B7.3E5EATnospamintercomm.com>
> So what are the alternatives? The anti-drug side claims the psychiatric
> profession never cured someone with bipolar disorder and other similar
> illnesses. What then is the cure? I might as well declare all modern
> medicine invalid because we cannot yet cure genetic diseases... we can
> _treat_ them, but not cure them, and those treatments often have side
> effects which vary from person to person.
>
> People who have awakened kundalini have more sensitive systems. The vast
> majority of people who suffer from severe depression have not awakened
> kundalini, so that should not be a relevant factor in your answer.
>
>
> How can you cure bipolar disorder, schitzophrenia, and other illnesses
> without drug treatments of any kind? What are these alternative
> treatments, and are they guaranteed to work? No divine intervention or
> platitudes. No mystical power from within. Most people suffering from
> these illnesses cannot fight it alone.
>
> If all drug treatments are bad, what else is there? Be specific.
>
> --
>Gloria:
There is no fast and true rule for life, life is the teacher. We each
one go through it connected to spiritual guidance if we are aware of it,
however, many are not. They then run into the karmic binds that have
been placed on them from the past. In spite of this, there is grace, and
there is challenge for growth which also changes attitude. Christopher
Reeve for instance, has choosen to face his challenge and to believe
that he can make a difference by bringing the attention of the media to
the disabled so that technology can find the answers to helping the body
to get reconnected and rewired.
There was a show on 20-20 not long a go. A beautiful young girl in her
early twenties had already began to establish herself as an actress. She
was outside walking when a car went out of control and ran over her on
the sidewalk, both of her legs were practically cut off. She knew it, in
that instant she said she screemed out to God and he/she answered. She
didn't want to die, and she was shown her life.When she woke up in the
hospital she asked her mom if her legs were gone. The mom told her yes
they were. Then she said she knew her mission, God told her she had to
get a video camera and film so that she could record every moment of her
recovery. From that instant, that very same day they began to record.
The first look at her stumps, everything, how she was carried around by
her families and friend. Her feelings, thoughts and fears. The doctors
had told her because of the way the legs were severed she would never
have artifical legs, she knew they were wrong. So, she prayed and asked
God to send her the doctor who would find the way. A young doctor came
and told her he wanted to operate he would stretch what skin she had
over the stumps that were way high on the leg and in so doing kind of
create something that could build muscle. They did, had special legs
built and within a year she was up walking. They recorded 75 hours of
the process and I can tell you it was one of the moving stories I've
ever seen. This young women accepted her challenge and knew God wanted
her to teach others how to deal with their limitations.
My dear friend Elsie watched it who has been dealing with a staff
infection that litterly destroyed her knee, after being on crutches for
a year and knowing that at least another year was involved before the
knee replacement, she had been crying and feeling sorry for herself. She
told me when she watched it...the light came on, she would never again
complain about her condition. It was her challenge and it would only
make her stronger spiritually. This girl became Elsie's hero, and this
happens to each of us learning how to face our specific challenge. Drugs
may be a part of the growth, and then grace can come if it is God's Will
to manifest, and then the impossible becomes possible
. How can we know or make that decision but by being in the movement of
the flow. Each person is being taught by life, drugs and medicine come
in and go out at various experiences in the journey. Right and wrong,
are value judgements on a moment of experience. Bipolar is a chemical
imbalance, each persons experience will bring them challenge and
possible discovery in the process. Gloria
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