1997/05/02  18:58  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #208 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 208
 
Today's Topics: 
  Question for Morgana 
  Re: New Thread: Sexuality & Spirituality 
  Re: Satan 
  SPIRITUAL SEX 
  Re: SPIRITUAL SEX 
  Re: Question for Morgana 
  how the body generates/receives Light 
  Unidentified subject! 
  how the body generates/receives Light 
  Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou 
  Mailing list: an unruly mob? 
  Troubled Lovers  
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:51:50 -0500 
From: "Spiral" <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net> 
To: "Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Question for Morgana 
Message-ID: <19970502165211.AAA19222ATnospamrjiredff> 
 
Hi Morgana,
 
Recently you wrote about a connection between lower back problems and third 
chakra problems.  Well, I've got 'em!  Could you say more?  Ever since my k 
awakening three years ago my lower spine and back seem to just want to 
tighten.  Also, I seem to have problems with energy getting congested in 
the third chakra region.  Just about every organ there has been affected.  
I've had gallbladder attacks, stomach bleeds, and I have an enlarged 
spleen.  Sometimes in meditation I feel energy sort of exploding from areas 
to either side of my solar plexus. 
   
Various stretching exercises seem to help, as does wild, crazy free-form 
dancing.  Sometimes visualizing white tinged with purple filling up the 
affected areas brings relief.
 
Do you have any other suggestions?  Thanks in advance.
 
Greg Gilliam 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:40:18 +0100 
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: New Thread: Sexuality & Spirituality 
Message-Id: <v01530511af8f9004df87ATnospam[209.42.129.10]> 
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In response to your post which was: 
>>        How do the people on this list feel that sexuality and 
>>>> spirituality fit together?  Is it felt that they are an integral part of 
>>>> each other?  Is sexuality a part of life that has more spiritual meaning 
>>>> than other parts of life? 
>> 
Let me include here my summary of the Sacred Sex Seminar which I teach. 
Thank you. - Jon Locke 
SACRED SEX SEMINAR 
This is the original version of the Sacred Sex Seminar thought of by Jon 
Locke. All rights are reserved and copyright is hereby announced May 1, 
1997. This is one chapter.  Entire copies may be purchased for $44.00, Post 
Paid anwhere in the world. Contact voltronATnospamvoyageronline.net for further 
information. 
Chapter One 
Introduction 
In The Flower of Life Workshop by Drunvalo Melchizedek, during the portion 
dealing with Sacred Geometry, he said it could be applied to the human 
body. But he did not go into detail. He said he would leave that for others 
to discover. 
 I had the good fortune to take that course in 1995. Even better I 
had an-ex girlfriend i had not seen in 20 years mail me a copy of the 36 
hours of the tapes of the FOL  Workshop. After about ayear of the practice 
I had miraculous things happen in my life: All the way from fantastic 
openings of the Crown Chakra to raising of the dead. 
Among all of this I hit the Wisdom Chakra. While in it I could ask 
anyquestion I wanted to. After considering magentism nad true geometry, it 
occurred to me how to relate sacred geometry to the human body. Of 
instance, the buttocks when viewed from the side often form a fibranachi if 
one drew a line from the bottom ot where it tappers off into the small of 
the back. The firbrachi spiral is also seen on the woman's breast when 
viewed from the side if one draws a line from the nipple to the rib cage. 
 As there is nothing unclean in nature so likewise this discussion 
is for mature minded adluts only. 
 So we may now proceed to other parts of the body nad geometries. 
The vesica pices is the form somewhat like a football or pices fish symbot 
is formed by the intersection of tow circles. Where on the body do you see 
this? 
(To be continued in the real seminar...) 
==========================
 
=========================== 
Jon Locke 
The Philosopher's Stone 
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/ 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:21:00 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Satan 
Message-ID: <970502142056_549841554ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>
 
yes I was wondering if anyone else felt as I did that Hale-Bopp was a 
malevolant spirit however beautiful it was. 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:17:55 +0100 
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke) 
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net 
Subject: SPIRITUAL SEX 
Message-Id: <v01530512af8f915c305fATnospam[209.42.129.10]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Reading a post to the kundalini list about sex and spirituality, it 
prompted us to send out this notice. I hope you receive it from a higher 
SSelf View. As it is given in LOVE.
 
 There is a way to combine spirit and sex. This has been done on the 
astral by many people over the centuries. They say yogis are experts at 
astral projection. After reading my previous post on Sacred Sex Seminars, 
you may now be ready to explore the experience your self. Enclosed is a 
letter between two such people on the web who have combined skilled talents 
to meet on the astral. In real life (3-D) they have never met. It is used 
here only as an illustration. The names have been changed to protect my 
life. Hope you receive this int he manner it is offered, as a contribution 
to the topic. 
>>Hi, Victor!
 
>>WOW! Did we have fun in astral or what? Phew!
 
>>>I have been sleeping a lot lately. Must be the body needs it.
 
>>Yes, and now I need much more, but alas, must go to work. You wore me 
>>out, my dear 
>>friend, and I thank you.
 
>>>OH! I dreamed about the Flower of Life Sphere! Way cool! I have Sounds 
>>>like a good dream to me. Whatever you thiink about before you go t sleep 
>>>is what you are going to dream about.
 
>>Oh, I didn't know that. thanks.
 
>>>>In my dream, I had seen this HUGE sphere coming from the west coast. It 
>>>>was huge, like a ship. 
>>>I brought this 
>>>>Sphere over Jacksonville and it started shooting golden light into 
>>>>Jacksonville! WAy cool. Then the phone woke me up. rats!
 
>>>This sia great dream. Sounds like you are a pilot and your mission is 
>>>to> bring people to safety. Keep up the good work.
 
>>Very interesting perspective. Hope you are right. Tomorrow morning, I 
>>hope I remember 
>>to continue this dream and find out what the details are. thanks.
 
>>>We are going to get along fine. I don't want you to cook very much for 
>>>me.> If you live in a good neighborhood we can run out for food every 
>>>now and> then. (Not late at 
>>night.) 
[Editor's note: at this time I was planning on meeting her in Jacksonville .]
 
>>Okay, sounds like fun to me. (what are we going to do late at night, 
>>Jon). *smiling 
>>impishly*
 
>>Ah, so glad to hear you are dreaming about me. Me, too, Jon. (Tell me> 
>>some of your dreams about me, okay). (grin)
 
>>>You and me were getting something straight between us just an hour or 
>>>two> ago when my mother knocked on the door and woke me up. She couldn't 
>>>call> because her f phone was 
>>out.
 
>>>O.K. LET'S DO IT AGAIN TODAY. BEST AT SAME TIME. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR 
>>>SCHEDULE. 1 PM IS FINE FOR ME. UNLESS I HEAR FROM YOU THAT IS WHERE/WHEN 
>>I'LL BE IN THE ASTRAL DIVING FOR YOU. HEY THIS IS BETTER THAN CHAT ROOMS. 
>>ASTRAL FLY BYS. MAKING LOVE IN THE ASTRAL IS MAGNIFIED BY 10,000 BECAUSE 
>>EVERY CELL IS ENVLOVED. 
>>Only have been able to do it 
>>>with my mind,WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR MIND? PEOPLE TRY TO TALK YOU OUT OF 
>>>THINGS BY SAYING 
>>"IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND." BUT THE MIND IS JUST AS REAL AS THINGS IN THE 
>>3RD DIMENSION. SO THE YOGIS OF INDIA TELL ME; THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE 
>>BETWEEN WAKING AND DREAMING, THEY ARE BOTH DELUSION. SO USE YOUR GOD 
>>GIVEN MIND TO DIRECT YOUR COURSE, VISUALIZE THE GEOMETRY, MAP OUT YOUR 
>>FLIGHT PATH, ETC. MIND IS REAL. MIND IS THE BUILDER. WHEN I THINK OF YOU, 
>>I FEEL YOU NEAR. WHEN YOU THINK OF ME THERE IS A PART OF ME, MY HIGHER 
>>SELF THAT IS ALWAYS IN TOUCH WITH YOUR HIGHER SELF AND SO WE RESPOND TO 
>>EACH OTHER THIS WAY.<
 
>>What a wonderful lesson you taught me, Victor, and we had such a good 
>>time because of it.
 
>>I don't know how graphic I can get with you without you thinking me a 
>>whore, so I will 
>>talk "nicely" okay? 
[Editor's note: I use only words appearing in the king James version of the 
Bible.]
 
>>When I got this letter, it was about 1:30 and it was not until then , did 
>>I feel your 
>>presence. I had been talking with you in another letter earlier and felt 
>>you , but only 
>>thought it was because I was writing to you. NOw I understand that when I 
>>think about 
>>you, you are here, part of you are here.
 
>>I felt your presence because I put myself on "receive" mode. consciously 
>>I> >am either on> >"receive" or "transmit" and I had been 
transmitting, until I got your letter.
 
>Most people are like this; but you are the first to admit it. We have a 
>lot> in common.> >
 
Good to hear. Yes, I believe in total honesty. One of the biggest 
differences between 3D and 4D+. In 4-D everyone can read your mind, so 
there is no need to lie.
 
>>I went into the bedroom and laid down. I felt you on top of me. and then> 
>>>you laid> >beside me, resting on your right arm. 
>This is as I saw it too.
 
Ah, Sweet Validation. Means our contact is real and powerful.
 
>I did my relaxation techniques and you ran your 
>>left hand all over my body, exploring. You kissed me alot and I loved 
>>it.> >I started> >breathing rapidly, and you told me to stop and 
take deep breaths. 
>This sounds right - like yogic breathing.
 
Yes, this is what I had thought of too, when you told me that.
 
>I wanted you to enter> >me and you would not, you told me to lay still. 
>This is how I am in real life. I do not enter the woman at first. I want 
>to> arouse her slowly.
 
How wonderful this is. You know the "secret" to pleasing a woman.
 
>and breathe deeply. this excited me 
>>even more. 
>>You took my hair , with your right hand and pulled my face up to yours 
>>and kissed me and 
>>you ran your left hand down, over my breasts and down my belly and down 
>>to> >my yani and> >massaged my clitoris. I went wild, but you told 
me to relax and not move.> >this excited> >me even more! 
>you would be surprised to know I have on my computer somewhere in my hard> 
>disc, a copy of something called THE YONI MASSAGE. It is written 
by the> First Church of Tantra. I got it off the Internet. I have been 
looking for someone to practice it> with. But this is usually the way I go 
: To honor> the partner as  goddess.
 
I have been wanting to practice Tantric Sex, too, and my best girlfriend, 
Blondie, has a video tape of it. I haven't seen it yet though. Maybe I can 
get her to send it to me? what do you think.
 
HOnoring the god or goddess makes sex very sacred, as it should be.
 
>>You then entered my yani with your left hand, one finger at a time. I 
>>was> >going nuts and you told me to relax and don't move. 
>That's part of the Tantric method all right.
 
OH, I didn't know that was Tantric. Thanks for introducing me to it. (smile)
 
>I loved that. 
>>>You put two fingers in and then three and then put your thumb on my 
>>clitoris. I was 
>>about to reach an orgasm and you told me not to. You told me to wait. 
>>>Your voice is so sweet and soft and gentle and you are such a gentle 
>>person. So loving. 
>>I could feel your love and it permeated my entire being. 
>>>You started pushing your hand in and out of my yani and I arched upwards. 
>>You told me 
>>that this was okay, I could do this. I humped your hand for awhile and 
>>was going crazy. 
>>I begged you to enter me, with your penis. 
>>>You finally got on top of me. I could feel you with my body, feel the> 
>>>>electricity , the 
>>energy of your astral body on top of me. It was wonderful. 
>>>>Oh, I forgot, earlier, you had been exploring my body with your 
>>>>tongue.> >You are very> >talented with your tongue, Sir, and I am in 
>>>>awe 
of your power. I had such> >a wonderful> >time, Victor! 
>>>>When you got on top of me , you got between my legs, again, like 
>>yesterday, and you> >knelt there. I had to beg you to enter me. (I used 
>>lots of words that I> >don't know> >would be okay to type here). 
>Most women have had to beg me. I will not go in just anywhere. I am not 
>the> typical man who will have sex with anyone wnywhere and anytime. 
Not me. I> want to get to know someone first. I demand quality - a 
spiritual person or> I won't have sex at all.
 
I am so happy to hear this, Jon. So happy to hear this indeed.
 
>>You entered me and laid on top of me. I wrapped my arms around you and> 
>>>you wrapped your> >arms around me and we merged our Merkabas and 
physical and astral bodies> >and became one. 
>There is a group merkaba meditation. Have you heard of it? I don't know> 
>what it may be. But I'm trying to figure it out. 
[Editor again: There is a group Merkaba forming on line. If you want to 
join write to MerkabaATnospamvoy.net]
 
No, I haven't heard of it. Will try to find out.
 
>>We just laid there in the bliss. Yes, that is what I felt. Bliss. 
>>>>We laid there for a long time like that, soaking up each other's love.> 
>>>>>Then we copulated with the ferocity of two wildebeasts! Afterwards, we 
>>>>laid in each other's arms and slept, knowing we were each> >with the 
>>>>other. *sigh* 
>>>Love, 
>>ZENA
 
>One day at a time, my dear. 
>Victor
 
You are right, "one day at a time", as we have all eternity, do we not? Love, 
ZENA, Warrior Princess. 
============================ 
It is our sincerest hope this page does not offend anyone. (Especially the 
girl who wrote it [or the man she wrote it to].) If read with a view from 
the Higher Self it is realised there is nothing impure in nature but what 
man's mind puts there. (And sometimes woman's.)
 
 May Love, Light, Peace and Happiness pervade the world from Now till 
Evermore. - Voltron 
=========================== 
Jon Locke 
The Philosopher's Stone 
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/ 
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:28:25 -0700 
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: SPIRITUAL SEX 
Message-ID: <336A3249.7023ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
 
Antaris Ra Melchizedek lives!
 
> >>>>>Then we copulated with the ferocity of two wildebeasts! Afterwards, we 
> >>>>laid in each other's arms and slept, knowing we were each> >with the 
> >>>>other. *sigh*
 
wildebeasts have nothing on snails, check out movie 'MicroCosmos'. 
Snails are the Universe's most sensual and erotic and loving creatures! 
(aside from dolphins?)
 
cheers 
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:30:34 -0700 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: Spiral <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Question for Morgana 
Message-ID: <336A32CA.49D9ATnospambest.com> 
 
Spiral wrote: 
>  
> Hi Morgana, 
>  
> Recently you wrote about a connection between lower back problems and third 
> chakra problems.  Well, I've got 'em!  Could you say more?  Ever since my k 
> awakening three years ago my lower spine and back seem to just want to 
> tighten.  Also, I seem to have problems with energy getting congested in 
> the third chakra region.  Just about every organ there has been affected. 
> I've had gallbladder attacks, stomach bleeds, and I have an enlarged 
> spleen.  Sometimes in meditation I feel energy sort of exploding from areas 
> to either side of my solar plexus. 
>  
> Various stretching exercises seem to help, as does wild, crazy free-form 
> dancing.  Sometimes visualizing white tinged with purple filling up the 
> affected areas brings relief. 
>  
> Do you have any other suggestions?  Thanks in advance. 
>  
> Greg Gilliam
 
There are more than one kind of karma held in the body. Emotional karma 
(present life trauma) could account for the bleeding/disturbances. 
Physical karma is held here in the solar plexus.  
   Run your finger along the fold in front where the leg crease descends 
to the pubic mound. Feel deeply along this crease on both sides at the 
same time. checking for tightness in the connecting ligaments. Then 
press firmly and from the crease slowly run your hands up to the hip 
bones. 
  You will feel tightness in here, and probably more on one side than 
the other.  Have someone else spend a good hour massaging in here and 
along the hip to loosen tightness. You'll feel a responding movement in 
the lower back. Massage the lower back also. 
   stand with your feet 15" apart and notice how you are standing. Do 
your feet turn out or in ? This is destabilizing your pelvis.  Do they 
roll in or out from the ankle? Put your feet straight and stand directly 
above them (center your weight). Slowly bend from the knee, keeping the 
upper body straight. Is there tightness? Is it more tight on one side 
than the other?  Do this several times a day for 20 times each to loosen 
the muscle tension. 
  Do you habitually widen your stance to give yourself more support? 
This destabilizes the pelvis. Do you roll your lower back out when you 
sit? This is a reaction to the tightening in the front of your pelvic 
structure, and it compresses the organs. Stand with your feet more 
together. Sit straight at all times and do not sit for longer than 30 
minutes without stretching. 
  Do you drive for long (30 min) periods during the day? How much lumbar 
(lower back) support does your car seat give you? If you have a standard 
transmission and must use a clutch, this may be the source of your back 
problems. Stop and stretch every 30 minutes, invest in a lumbar support 
for the car from a specialty store. 
   With this work you will notice energy movement in the solar plexus. 
The energy will loosen and begin to move. Stretch and dance (remember 
the hurdle stretch, put the foot in toward the crotch and it stretches 
the lower back- slooowly and GENTLY.) The plow and cat from yoga are 
also good exercises. 
  Create a flame in the solar plexus of white light (after the physical 
work has been done). Burn the chakra clean. 
  Examine your body for emotional content in the pain and tightness. 
Simply lay and breath deeply, placing your awareness in the pain and 
waiting for pictures or emotions to gently surface. 
  Try these, then get back to me. Massage wil greatly help the process. 
Morgana 
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 12:35:16 -0700 
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: how the body generates/receives Light 
Message-ID: <336A41F4.2FF6ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
 
Your eye is the lamp of your body;  
when your eye is sound, your whole body is full of light 
Luke 11:34
 
cf:
 
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hameroff/water2.html 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:46:13 -0500 (CDT) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Unidentified subject! 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970502144546.21071A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu> 
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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:53:20 +0100 
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: how the body generates/receives Light 
Message-Id: <19532087103146ATnospampeconic.net> 
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I am studying about the 3rd eye which could be an attention point area 
in the body of light that don Juan teaches about in the series of books 
which Carlos Castaneda writes about. 
Raven 
  ~V~ 
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> 
>Your eye is the lamp of your body;  
>when your eye is sound, your whole body is full of light 
>Luke 11:34 
> 
>cf: 
> 
>http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hameroff/water2.html 
> 
> 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:44 +0100 
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke) 
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net 
Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou 
Message-Id: <v01530504af8fc3c30e70ATnospam[209.42.129.18]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>Comments: Authenticated sender is <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net> 
>From: "Skywatch Post Only" <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net> 
>Organization: SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL 
>Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:11:24 -0700 
> 
>Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou 
>Reply-to: skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net 
>Priority: normal 
> 
>------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- 
>From:          RGates8254ATnospamaol.com 
>Date:          Thu, 1 May 1997 22:33:57 -0400 (EDT) 
>To:            SkywatchATnospamphoenix.net 
>Subject:       Re: UFO UpDate: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou 
> 
>In a message dated 97-05-01 16:31:34 EDT, you write: 
> 
><< Subj:        UFO UpDate: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou 
> Date:  97-05-01 16:31:34 EDT 
> From:  updatesATnospamglobalserve.net (UFO UpDates - Toronto) 
> To:    updatesATnospamglobalserve.net 
> 
> From: "SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL" <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net> 
> Organization: SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL 
> Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 06:12:47 -0700 
> Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campout 
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- 
> 
> From:          NdunlksATnospamaol.com 
> Date:          Thu, 1 May 1997 03:34:11 -0400 (EDT) 
> To:            SkywatchATnospamphoenix.net 
> Subject:       UFO Aficionados To Hold Campout 
> 
> c The Associated Press 
> 
> ROSWELL, N.M. (AP) - UFO aficionados could have a camping experience 
> that's out of this world this summer when they sleep at the site where 
> some believe an alien spacecraft crashed 50 years ago. 
> 
> The camping will be part of a weeklong celebration commemorating the 
> 50th anniversary of the alleged sighting. Previous tours of the 
> property have been limited to 30 minutes during the day. 
> 
> ``Ever since we first began letting people visit the site we've been 
> asked if we'd allow them to camp overnight,'' said Roswell rancher Hub 
> Corn. 
> 
> Tickets for one night during the July 1-6 anniversary week cost $90, 
> and are limited to 2,000 people, organizers said in a news release.  >> 
> 
>   This guy Hub Corn, should stand to make at least $180,000, and 
>   probably 
>more just by owning a chunk of Desert.  Pretty good for 6 days work. 
> Capitalism and ET at work jointly!!! 
>  I predict people will lap up the tickets, and the camping experience 
>  will 
>later be refered to --by the participants-- in almost a hushed 
>"spiritual experience/met God" type tones. 
> 
>Cheers, 
>Robert 
>
 
 May Love, Light, Peace and Happiness pervade the world from Now till 
Evermore. - Voltron 
=========================== 
Jon Locke 
The Philosopher's Stone 
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/ 
Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 15:26:26 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: morganaATnospambest.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Mailing list: an unruly mob? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970501152626.28473ad4ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hello Kundalites:
 
  Mmmmmmm.  
Not so little, Morgana.  
Even zweakless, we are numbered 257 on the regular list, and last time I 
counted (245) I forgot to count the Digest subscribers, who certainly stand 
up to be counted...another 58 members. That pushes the membership up to 
315. When I took over, Richard said that the list always seemed to hover 
just under 200 members. Those days are gone. 
 
  My point is, with over 300 people, somebody is bound to be cranky on any 
given day, and laughter is the best approach to the human condition. 
  Thankyou, Lobster, for your inspired interpretation of the final message 
of zweak.
 
At 22:51 01/05/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote: 
>This is so cute! it lis linfested. And we have  a zweak. Pardon me, had 
>a zweak. I'm so bwissed out lith all lis attention for our little lis. 
>Iz so fuuny, and are we choosing to be cranky, call pest patrol, or is 
>it to die laughing? 
>Morgana 
>Hugs for satan, santa and all other aggregars 
> 
  My other point, (said the sometimes verbose and cranky but well meaning 
List Mystress,) is with the list growing this quickly, if it is going to 
continue to be useful we are all going have to brush up on our nettiquite!!!  
 
  Particular targets for the unrepentant wrath of Cranky List Mystress: 
  *********** 
  People who do not snip repeated text when responding to a list post as 
much as possible.  Somebody actually responded a 22k list post and added 
five lines, and reposted it to the list, recently!!! 
   AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! 
  I was astonished at the thoughtless waste of bandwidth and members time. 
The Digest itself is max 32k. 
  The members who don't snip 
   AND  
  are only saying "I agree" or "me too" in some form or another will be an 
even bigger major wrathful zone, so watch it! 
 
  Somebody returned to the list recently and decided to post to the list 
various froms of "I agree" notes to nearly everyone who posted about 
anything for several days, and didn't snip at all.  
  One digest was all, reposts and comments by "X". RRRRoooAAAAAWWWWRRRRRR. 
Chomp! 
    :) :) :) :) :) :)  
  The thing is, the list is set up so that using the "return" button sends 
your response back to the person who wrote it, not to the list. It is set 
up this way to encourage members to send their support and thanks to the 
member who wrote the post, directly.  
  It is *so wonderful* to get quick notes directly from members, even 
lurkers saying they appreciate what they have read. 
  It is not wonderful when those notes clog up the list.
 
  Recent comments aside, the #1 reason folks leave the list is because they 
are unable to keep up with the list traffic, and the "noise" of unsnipped 
repeats and "I agree" chat makes it too hard to find the useful information. 
 
  Hokay? Thanks a bunch, y'all.  
  Blessings, List Mystress. 
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:47:33 +0100 
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Troubled Lovers  
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I adore you  
I realize your love was spun 
I adore you 
but only when your love was tied 
to me 
I adored you Iadored you I adored you 
but I want you I do like like you 
I want you I do want you 
I love you so much I love you so much 
I do love you so much I do love you so much 
I am sorry about this I am sorry about this 
but you did upset me but you did upset me 
Oh darling, I want you I love you I need your love 
I want to hold you I want to kiss you 
I want to hold you I want to kiss you 
I want to hold your hand when your other love 
walks in and sees you typing my words of love 
I love you I need you to see this reality that 
I care about you I care about you I care you 
and I want you know that dont want you to 
let your other love to be upset but  
you know this cant last it is too painful for me 
 to watch from behind your head  
and waiting to see my dread when you realize 
 that your love is unsatiable 
and uncreatiable for me and you are tied 
 and bound forever forever forever  
you see it is powerful as can be 
lets get over our fear of hurting our lovers 
and frankly, I am so exhausted of hiding my love 
from God, 
I really really really have you in mind all the time, 
to keep in my heart my heart myheart my heart 
you really really really really dont love him 
you really really really really dont love her 
you only only love love so much that you are 
 afraid very afraid to show God that you are 
what you are and what you are is precious to me 
If you know what you are what you are 
then you dont feel bad when you ask to me to hold you 
I will hold your spirit in my heart in my heart forever 
it is so difficult , it is so difficult to stay away from love. 
I love you I love you I love you I love you  I love you... 
You told me you told me that you wanted to die 
die for my love, for my love  for mylove  
And you live and you live and you live in hopes 
in hopes and dreams of returning to life again 
oh, I really see what you mean when you say that 
 you love me, because you see, I dont feel the same way 
 a breath of a breath of  a breath of, when we were 
lined up in an old sorcerer's village in south america 
and we waited and we waited and we waited for for for 
the bliss to start the bliss to start the bliss to start 
the breathing was  the breathing was the breathing was 
 so magical, so magical so magical so magical so magical 
you were so lovely you were so lovely you were so beautiful 
  you were so helpless to start the chain of lights, 
I started magic, I started magical Istarted magical breathing to help 
to help to help you, but you told me that you loved me by your breathing 
 in rhythymic pulsations with me, off and on we go, back and forth to know 
how we can make this love die, or do we believe that we shall go on 
like this forever, and ever, I dont know but you dont know,either....
 
 
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