Kundalini Gateway Email List Archives

line

1997/05/02 18:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #208


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 208

Today's Topics:
  Question for Morgana
  Re: New Thread: Sexuality & Spirituality
  Re: Satan
  SPIRITUAL SEX
  Re: SPIRITUAL SEX
  Re: Question for Morgana
  how the body generates/receives Light
  Unidentified subject!
  how the body generates/receives Light
  Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou
  Mailing list: an unruly mob?
  Troubled Lovers
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:51:50 -0500
From: "Spiral" <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>
To: "Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Question for Morgana
Message-ID: <19970502165211.AAA19222ATnospamrjiredff>

Hi Morgana,

Recently you wrote about a connection between lower back problems and third
chakra problems. Well, I've got 'em! Could you say more? Ever since my k
awakening three years ago my lower spine and back seem to just want to
tighten. Also, I seem to have problems with energy getting congested in
the third chakra region. Just about every organ there has been affected.
I've had gallbladder attacks, stomach bleeds, and I have an enlarged
spleen. Sometimes in meditation I feel energy sort of exploding from areas
to either side of my solar plexus.
  
Various stretching exercises seem to help, as does wild, crazy free-form
dancing. Sometimes visualizing white tinged with purple filling up the
affected areas brings relief.

Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Greg Gilliam
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:40:18 +0100
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New Thread: Sexuality & Spirituality
Message-Id: <v01530511af8f9004df87ATnospam[209.42.129.10]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

In response to your post which was:
>> How do the people on this list feel that sexuality and
>>>> spirituality fit together? Is it felt that they are an integral part of
>>>> each other? Is sexuality a part of life that has more spiritual meaning
>>>> than other parts of life?
>>
Let me include here my summary of the Sacred Sex Seminar which I teach.
Thank you. - Jon Locke
SACRED SEX SEMINAR
This is the original version of the Sacred Sex Seminar thought of by Jon
Locke. All rights are reserved and copyright is hereby announced May 1,
1997. This is one chapter. Entire copies may be purchased for $44.00, Post
Paid anwhere in the world. Contact voltronATnospamvoyageronline.net for further
information.
Chapter One
Introduction
In The Flower of Life Workshop by Drunvalo Melchizedek, during the portion
dealing with Sacred Geometry, he said it could be applied to the human
body. But he did not go into detail. He said he would leave that for others
to discover.
 I had the good fortune to take that course in 1995. Even better I
had an-ex girlfriend i had not seen in 20 years mail me a copy of the 36
hours of the tapes of the FOL Workshop. After about ayear of the practice
I had miraculous things happen in my life: All the way from fantastic
openings of the Crown Chakra to raising of the dead.
Among all of this I hit the Wisdom Chakra. While in it I could ask
anyquestion I wanted to. After considering magentism nad true geometry, it
occurred to me how to relate sacred geometry to the human body. Of
instance, the buttocks when viewed from the side often form a fibranachi if
one drew a line from the bottom ot where it tappers off into the small of
the back. The firbrachi spiral is also seen on the woman's breast when
viewed from the side if one draws a line from the nipple to the rib cage.
 As there is nothing unclean in nature so likewise this discussion
is for mature minded adluts only.
 So we may now proceed to other parts of the body nad geometries.
The vesica pices is the form somewhat like a football or pices fish symbot
is formed by the intersection of tow circles. Where on the body do you see
this?
(To be continued in the real seminar...)
==========================

===========================
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:21:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Satan
Message-ID: <970502142056_549841554ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>

yes I was wondering if anyone else felt as I did that Hale-Bopp was a
malevolant spirit however beautiful it was.
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:17:55 +0100
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net
Subject: SPIRITUAL SEX
Message-Id: <v01530512af8f915c305fATnospam[209.42.129.10]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Reading a post to the kundalini list about sex and spirituality, it
prompted us to send out this notice. I hope you receive it from a higher
SSelf View. As it is given in LOVE.

 There is a way to combine spirit and sex. This has been done on the
astral by many people over the centuries. They say yogis are experts at
astral projection. After reading my previous post on Sacred Sex Seminars,
you may now be ready to explore the experience your self. Enclosed is a
letter between two such people on the web who have combined skilled talents
to meet on the astral. In real life (3-D) they have never met. It is used
here only as an illustration. The names have been changed to protect my
life. Hope you receive this int he manner it is offered, as a contribution
to the topic.
>>Hi, Victor!

>>WOW! Did we have fun in astral or what? Phew!

>>>I have been sleeping a lot lately. Must be the body needs it.

>>Yes, and now I need much more, but alas, must go to work. You wore me
>>out, my dear
>>friend, and I thank you.

>>>OH! I dreamed about the Flower of Life Sphere! Way cool! I have Sounds
>>>like a good dream to me. Whatever you thiink about before you go t sleep
>>>is what you are going to dream about.

>>Oh, I didn't know that. thanks.

>>>>In my dream, I had seen this HUGE sphere coming from the west coast. It
>>>>was huge, like a ship.
>>>I brought this
>>>>Sphere over Jacksonville and it started shooting golden light into
>>>>Jacksonville! WAy cool. Then the phone woke me up. rats!

>>>This sia great dream. Sounds like you are a pilot and your mission is
>>>to> bring people to safety. Keep up the good work.

>>Very interesting perspective. Hope you are right. Tomorrow morning, I
>>hope I remember
>>to continue this dream and find out what the details are. thanks.

>>>We are going to get along fine. I don't want you to cook very much for
>>>me.> If you live in a good neighborhood we can run out for food every
>>>now and> then. (Not late at
>>night.)
[Editor's note: at this time I was planning on meeting her in Jacksonville .]

>>Okay, sounds like fun to me. (what are we going to do late at night,
>>Jon). *smiling
>>impishly*

>>Ah, so glad to hear you are dreaming about me. Me, too, Jon. (Tell me>
>>some of your dreams about me, okay). (grin)

>>>You and me were getting something straight between us just an hour or
>>>two> ago when my mother knocked on the door and woke me up. She couldn't
>>>call> because her f phone was
>>out.

>>>O.K. LET'S DO IT AGAIN TODAY. BEST AT SAME TIME. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR
>>>SCHEDULE. 1 PM IS FINE FOR ME. UNLESS I HEAR FROM YOU THAT IS WHERE/WHEN
>>I'LL BE IN THE ASTRAL DIVING FOR YOU. HEY THIS IS BETTER THAN CHAT ROOMS.
>>ASTRAL FLY BYS. MAKING LOVE IN THE ASTRAL IS MAGNIFIED BY 10,000 BECAUSE
>>EVERY CELL IS ENVLOVED.
>>Only have been able to do it
>>>with my mind,WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR MIND? PEOPLE TRY TO TALK YOU OUT OF
>>>THINGS BY SAYING
>>"IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND." BUT THE MIND IS JUST AS REAL AS THINGS IN THE
>>3RD DIMENSION. SO THE YOGIS OF INDIA TELL ME; THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
>>BETWEEN WAKING AND DREAMING, THEY ARE BOTH DELUSION. SO USE YOUR GOD
>>GIVEN MIND TO DIRECT YOUR COURSE, VISUALIZE THE GEOMETRY, MAP OUT YOUR
>>FLIGHT PATH, ETC. MIND IS REAL. MIND IS THE BUILDER. WHEN I THINK OF YOU,
>>I FEEL YOU NEAR. WHEN YOU THINK OF ME THERE IS A PART OF ME, MY HIGHER
>>SELF THAT IS ALWAYS IN TOUCH WITH YOUR HIGHER SELF AND SO WE RESPOND TO
>>EACH OTHER THIS WAY.<

>>What a wonderful lesson you taught me, Victor, and we had such a good
>>time because of it.

>>I don't know how graphic I can get with you without you thinking me a
>>whore, so I will
>>talk "nicely" okay?
[Editor's note: I use only words appearing in the king James version of the
Bible.]

>>When I got this letter, it was about 1:30 and it was not until then , did
>>I feel your
>>presence. I had been talking with you in another letter earlier and felt
>>you , but only
>>thought it was because I was writing to you. NOw I understand that when I
>>think about
>>you, you are here, part of you are here.

>>I felt your presence because I put myself on "receive" mode. consciously
>>I> >am either on> >"receive" or "transmit" and I had been
transmitting, until I got your letter.

>Most people are like this; but you are the first to admit it. We have a
>lot> in common.> >

Good to hear. Yes, I believe in total honesty. One of the biggest
differences between 3D and 4D+. In 4-D everyone can read your mind, so
there is no need to lie.

>>I went into the bedroom and laid down. I felt you on top of me. and then>
>>>you laid> >beside me, resting on your right arm.
>This is as I saw it too.

Ah, Sweet Validation. Means our contact is real and powerful.

>I did my relaxation techniques and you ran your
>>left hand all over my body, exploring. You kissed me alot and I loved
>>it.> >I started> >breathing rapidly, and you told me to stop and
take deep breaths.
>This sounds right - like yogic breathing.

Yes, this is what I had thought of too, when you told me that.

>I wanted you to enter> >me and you would not, you told me to lay still.
>This is how I am in real life. I do not enter the woman at first. I want
>to> arouse her slowly.

How wonderful this is. You know the "secret" to pleasing a woman.

>and breathe deeply. this excited me
>>even more.
>>You took my hair , with your right hand and pulled my face up to yours
>>and kissed me and
>>you ran your left hand down, over my breasts and down my belly and down
>>to> >my yani and> >massaged my clitoris. I went wild, but you told
me to relax and not move.> >this excited> >me even more!
>you would be surprised to know I have on my computer somewhere in my hard>
>disc, a copy of something called THE YONI MASSAGE. It is written
by the> First Church of Tantra. I got it off the Internet. I have been
looking for someone to practice it> with. But this is usually the way I go
: To honor> the partner as goddess.

I have been wanting to practice Tantric Sex, too, and my best girlfriend,
Blondie, has a video tape of it. I haven't seen it yet though. Maybe I can
get her to send it to me? what do you think.

HOnoring the god or goddess makes sex very sacred, as it should be.

>>You then entered my yani with your left hand, one finger at a time. I
>>was> >going nuts and you told me to relax and don't move.
>That's part of the Tantric method all right.

OH, I didn't know that was Tantric. Thanks for introducing me to it. (smile)

>I loved that.
>>>You put two fingers in and then three and then put your thumb on my
>>clitoris. I was
>>about to reach an orgasm and you told me not to. You told me to wait.
>>>Your voice is so sweet and soft and gentle and you are such a gentle
>>person. So loving.
>>I could feel your love and it permeated my entire being.
>>>You started pushing your hand in and out of my yani and I arched upwards.
>>You told me
>>that this was okay, I could do this. I humped your hand for awhile and
>>was going crazy.
>>I begged you to enter me, with your penis.
>>>You finally got on top of me. I could feel you with my body, feel the>
>>>>electricity , the
>>energy of your astral body on top of me. It was wonderful.
>>>>Oh, I forgot, earlier, you had been exploring my body with your
>>>>tongue.> >You are very> >talented with your tongue, Sir, and I am in
>>>>awe
of your power. I had such> >a wonderful> >time, Victor!
>>>>When you got on top of me , you got between my legs, again, like
>>yesterday, and you> >knelt there. I had to beg you to enter me. (I used
>>lots of words that I> >don't know> >would be okay to type here).
>Most women have had to beg me. I will not go in just anywhere. I am not
>the> typical man who will have sex with anyone wnywhere and anytime.
Not me. I> want to get to know someone first. I demand quality - a
spiritual person or> I won't have sex at all.

I am so happy to hear this, Jon. So happy to hear this indeed.

>>You entered me and laid on top of me. I wrapped my arms around you and>
>>>you wrapped your> >arms around me and we merged our Merkabas and
physical and astral bodies> >and became one.
>There is a group merkaba meditation. Have you heard of it? I don't know>
>what it may be. But I'm trying to figure it out.
[Editor again: There is a group Merkaba forming on line. If you want to
join write to MerkabaATnospamvoy.net]

No, I haven't heard of it. Will try to find out.

>>We just laid there in the bliss. Yes, that is what I felt. Bliss.
>>>>We laid there for a long time like that, soaking up each other's love.>
>>>>>Then we copulated with the ferocity of two wildebeasts! Afterwards, we
>>>>laid in each other's arms and slept, knowing we were each> >with the
>>>>other. *sigh*
>>>Love,
>>ZENA

>One day at a time, my dear.
>Victor

You are right, "one day at a time", as we have all eternity, do we not? Love,
ZENA, Warrior Princess.
============================
It is our sincerest hope this page does not offend anyone. (Especially the
girl who wrote it [or the man she wrote it to].) If read with a view from
the Higher Self it is realised there is nothing impure in nature but what
man's mind puts there. (And sometimes woman's.)

 May Love, Light, Peace and Happiness pervade the world from Now till
Evermore. - Voltron
===========================
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:28:25 -0700
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: SPIRITUAL SEX
Message-ID: <336A3249.7023ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>

Antaris Ra Melchizedek lives!

> >>>>>Then we copulated with the ferocity of two wildebeasts! Afterwards, we
> >>>>laid in each other's arms and slept, knowing we were each> >with the
> >>>>other. *sigh*

wildebeasts have nothing on snails, check out movie 'MicroCosmos'.
Snails are the Universe's most sensual and erotic and loving creatures!
(aside from dolphins?)

cheers
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:30:34 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Spiral <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question for Morgana
Message-ID: <336A32CA.49D9ATnospambest.com>

Spiral wrote:
>
> Hi Morgana,
>
> Recently you wrote about a connection between lower back problems and third
> chakra problems. Well, I've got 'em! Could you say more? Ever since my k
> awakening three years ago my lower spine and back seem to just want to
> tighten. Also, I seem to have problems with energy getting congested in
> the third chakra region. Just about every organ there has been affected.
> I've had gallbladder attacks, stomach bleeds, and I have an enlarged
> spleen. Sometimes in meditation I feel energy sort of exploding from areas
> to either side of my solar plexus.
>
> Various stretching exercises seem to help, as does wild, crazy free-form
> dancing. Sometimes visualizing white tinged with purple filling up the
> affected areas brings relief.
>
> Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
> Greg Gilliam

There are more than one kind of karma held in the body. Emotional karma
(present life trauma) could account for the bleeding/disturbances.
Physical karma is held here in the solar plexus.
   Run your finger along the fold in front where the leg crease descends
to the pubic mound. Feel deeply along this crease on both sides at the
same time. checking for tightness in the connecting ligaments. Then
press firmly and from the crease slowly run your hands up to the hip
bones.
  You will feel tightness in here, and probably more on one side than
the other. Have someone else spend a good hour massaging in here and
along the hip to loosen tightness. You'll feel a responding movement in
the lower back. Massage the lower back also.
   stand with your feet 15" apart and notice how you are standing. Do
your feet turn out or in ? This is destabilizing your pelvis. Do they
roll in or out from the ankle? Put your feet straight and stand directly
above them (center your weight). Slowly bend from the knee, keeping the
upper body straight. Is there tightness? Is it more tight on one side
than the other? Do this several times a day for 20 times each to loosen
the muscle tension.
  Do you habitually widen your stance to give yourself more support?
This destabilizes the pelvis. Do you roll your lower back out when you
sit? This is a reaction to the tightening in the front of your pelvic
structure, and it compresses the organs. Stand with your feet more
together. Sit straight at all times and do not sit for longer than 30
minutes without stretching.
  Do you drive for long (30 min) periods during the day? How much lumbar
(lower back) support does your car seat give you? If you have a standard
transmission and must use a clutch, this may be the source of your back
problems. Stop and stretch every 30 minutes, invest in a lumbar support
for the car from a specialty store.
   With this work you will notice energy movement in the solar plexus.
The energy will loosen and begin to move. Stretch and dance (remember
the hurdle stretch, put the foot in toward the crotch and it stretches
the lower back- slooowly and GENTLY.) The plow and cat from yoga are
also good exercises.
  Create a flame in the solar plexus of white light (after the physical
work has been done). Burn the chakra clean.
  Examine your body for emotional content in the pain and tightness.
Simply lay and breath deeply, placing your awareness in the pain and
waiting for pictures or emotions to gently surface.
  Try these, then get back to me. Massage wil greatly help the process.
Morgana
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 12:35:16 -0700
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: how the body generates/receives Light
Message-ID: <336A41F4.2FF6ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>

Your eye is the lamp of your body;
when your eye is sound, your whole body is full of light
Luke 11:34

cf:

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hameroff/water2.html
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:46:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970502144546.21071A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

who kundalini-l
end
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:53:20 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: how the body generates/receives Light
Message-Id: <19532087103146ATnospampeconic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I am studying about the 3rd eye which could be an attention point area
in the body of light that don Juan teaches about in the series of books
which Carlos Castaneda writes about.
Raven
  ~V~
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
>
>Your eye is the lamp of your body;
>when your eye is sound, your whole body is full of light
>Luke 11:34
>
>cf:
>
>http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hameroff/water2.html
>
>
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:44 +0100
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net
Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou
Message-Id: <v01530504af8fc3c30e70ATnospam[209.42.129.18]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Comments: Authenticated sender is <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net>
>From: "Skywatch Post Only" <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net>
>Organization: SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL
>Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:11:24 -0700
>
>Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou
>Reply-to: skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net
>Priority: normal
>
>------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
>From: RGates8254ATnospamaol.com
>Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:33:57 -0400 (EDT)
>To: SkywatchATnospamphoenix.net
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou
>
>In a message dated 97-05-01 16:31:34 EDT, you write:
>
><< Subj: UFO UpDate: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campou
> Date: 97-05-01 16:31:34 EDT
> From: updatesATnospamglobalserve.net (UFO UpDates - Toronto)
> To: updatesATnospamglobalserve.net
>
> From: "SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL" <skywatchATnospammail.phoenix.net>
> Organization: SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL
> Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 06:12:47 -0700
> Subject: Skywatch: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campout
>
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
>
> From: NdunlksATnospamaol.com
> Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 03:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
> To: SkywatchATnospamphoenix.net
> Subject: UFO Aficionados To Hold Campout
>
> c The Associated Press
>
> ROSWELL, N.M. (AP) - UFO aficionados could have a camping experience
> that's out of this world this summer when they sleep at the site where
> some believe an alien spacecraft crashed 50 years ago.
>
> The camping will be part of a weeklong celebration commemorating the
> 50th anniversary of the alleged sighting. Previous tours of the
> property have been limited to 30 minutes during the day.
>
> ``Ever since we first began letting people visit the site we've been
> asked if we'd allow them to camp overnight,'' said Roswell rancher Hub
> Corn.
>
> Tickets for one night during the July 1-6 anniversary week cost $90,
> and are limited to 2,000 people, organizers said in a news release. >>
>
> This guy Hub Corn, should stand to make at least $180,000, and
> probably
>more just by owning a chunk of Desert. Pretty good for 6 days work.
> Capitalism and ET at work jointly!!!
> I predict people will lap up the tickets, and the camping experience
> will
>later be refered to --by the participants-- in almost a hushed
>"spiritual experience/met God" type tones.
>
>Cheers,
>Robert
>

 May Love, Light, Peace and Happiness pervade the world from Now till
Evermore. - Voltron
===========================
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/
Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 15:26:26
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Mailing list: an unruly mob?
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970501152626.28473ad4ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello Kundalites:

  Mmmmmmm.
Not so little, Morgana.
Even zweakless, we are numbered 257 on the regular list, and last time I
counted (245) I forgot to count the Digest subscribers, who certainly stand
up to be counted...another 58 members. That pushes the membership up to
315. When I took over, Richard said that the list always seemed to hover
just under 200 members. Those days are gone.

  My point is, with over 300 people, somebody is bound to be cranky on any
given day, and laughter is the best approach to the human condition.
  Thankyou, Lobster, for your inspired interpretation of the final message
of zweak.

At 22:51 01/05/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
>This is so cute! it lis linfested. And we have a zweak. Pardon me, had
>a zweak. I'm so bwissed out lith all lis attention for our little lis.
>Iz so fuuny, and are we choosing to be cranky, call pest patrol, or is
>it to die laughing?
>Morgana
>Hugs for satan, santa and all other aggregars
>
  My other point, (said the sometimes verbose and cranky but well meaning
List Mystress,) is with the list growing this quickly, if it is going to
continue to be useful we are all going have to brush up on our nettiquite!!!

  Particular targets for the unrepentant wrath of Cranky List Mystress:
  ***********
  People who do not snip repeated text when responding to a list post as
much as possible. Somebody actually responded a 22k list post and added
five lines, and reposted it to the list, recently!!!
   AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
  I was astonished at the thoughtless waste of bandwidth and members time.
The Digest itself is max 32k.
  The members who don't snip
   AND
  are only saying "I agree" or "me too" in some form or another will be an
even bigger major wrathful zone, so watch it!

  Somebody returned to the list recently and decided to post to the list
various froms of "I agree" notes to nearly everyone who posted about
anything for several days, and didn't snip at all.
  One digest was all, reposts and comments by "X". RRRRoooAAAAAWWWWRRRRRR.
Chomp!
    :) :) :) :) :) :)
  The thing is, the list is set up so that using the "return" button sends
your response back to the person who wrote it, not to the list. It is set
up this way to encourage members to send their support and thanks to the
member who wrote the post, directly.
  It is *so wonderful* to get quick notes directly from members, even
lurkers saying they appreciate what they have read.
  It is not wonderful when those notes clog up the list.

  Recent comments aside, the #1 reason folks leave the list is because they
are unable to keep up with the list traffic, and the "noise" of unsnipped
repeats and "I agree" chat makes it too hard to find the useful information.

  Hokay? Thanks a bunch, y'all.
  Blessings, List Mystress.
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:47:33 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Troubled Lovers
Message-Id: <01473385203661ATnospampeconic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I adore you
I realize your love was spun
I adore you
but only when your love was tied
to me
I adored you Iadored you I adored you
but I want you I do like like you
I want you I do want you
I love you so much I love you so much
I do love you so much I do love you so much
I am sorry about this I am sorry about this
but you did upset me but you did upset me
Oh darling, I want you I love you I need your love
I want to hold you I want to kiss you
I want to hold you I want to kiss you
I want to hold your hand when your other love
walks in and sees you typing my words of love
I love you I need you to see this reality that
I care about you I care about you I care you
and I want you know that dont want you to
let your other love to be upset but
you know this cant last it is too painful for me
 to watch from behind your head
and waiting to see my dread when you realize
 that your love is unsatiable
and uncreatiable for me and you are tied
 and bound forever forever forever
you see it is powerful as can be
lets get over our fear of hurting our lovers
and frankly, I am so exhausted of hiding my love
from God,
I really really really have you in mind all the time,
to keep in my heart my heart myheart my heart
you really really really really dont love him
you really really really really dont love her
you only only love love so much that you are
 afraid very afraid to show God that you are
what you are and what you are is precious to me
If you know what you are what you are
then you dont feel bad when you ask to me to hold you
I will hold your spirit in my heart in my heart forever
it is so difficult , it is so difficult to stay away from love.
I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you...
You told me you told me that you wanted to die
die for my love, for my love for mylove
And you live and you live and you live in hopes
in hopes and dreams of returning to life again
oh, I really see what you mean when you say that
 you love me, because you see, I dont feel the same way
 a breath of a breath of a breath of, when we were
lined up in an old sorcerer's village in south america
and we waited and we waited and we waited for for for
the bliss to start the bliss to start the bliss to start
the breathing was the breathing was the breathing was
 so magical, so magical so magical so magical so magical
you were so lovely you were so lovely you were so beautiful
  you were so helpless to start the chain of lights,
I started magic, I started magical Istarted magical breathing to help
to help to help you, but you told me that you loved me by your breathing
 in rhythymic pulsations with me, off and on we go, back and forth to know
how we can make this love die, or do we believe that we shall go on
like this forever, and ever, I dont know but you dont know,either....

blank
DISCLAIMER!

Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
blank
K.  List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and  Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
line
  • Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given). Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses.
  • All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the at symbol symbol.
  • All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©
  • This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
  • URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k1997d/k97d00140.html