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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #200


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 200

Today's Topics:
  Re: Out-of-body experiences.
  Re: MS
  Re: Dear confused in Gloria
  God exists
  millenial madness
  Re: Dear confused in Gloria
  Re: Out-of-body experiences.
  Re: For David...For all of us..
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
  reiki energy
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
  Fwd: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:18:03 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Out-of-body experiences.
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Hi Gloria,
This is a Q I will attempt to answer:
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Raven,
 I'm not sure I got what you are saying, can you clarify this for me?
 And what is a shakti-sorcerer path? And how did you get there, how did it
 come to you? Gloria
A (shakti)energy Sorcerer Path could be an assortment of various odds
and ends of shaman practices. The one I am currently studying is
Carlos Castaneda's series of books on the Teachings of don Juan.
The experiences I am experiencing is first of all is of course custom
to my needs, I AM AT THE BEGINNING AND VERY INEXPERIENCED;the
first thing I learned was about the I AM and how to access the Holy Spirit,
easily, by the way! I have been extremelycautious and the way has been
very very intense and rich with learning, as well as has endowed me
with a great sense of wonder and also answered my Qs about the future
developement of man's spiritual nature, and his probably unfoldment
spiritually in the spiritual worlds of infinity.
1. life Review of people in my life, to get a sense of peace with them.
2. Dreaming skills, dreams can be for magickal purposes or deep
     perceptual purposes, always teaching purposes.
3.meeting other spirits, of like awareness.
4.learning things in the spirit, and then reading about them later, as
  a confirmation which is fun.
5. learning how to project,spirit travel.
6. understanding the nature of nature and all that it stands for.Learning
   the language of Symbols and what it means to humans down the century
learning, gods and goddesses as symbols.
7. knowing that there is a bliss technology of light manipulation and
    learning that it has to do with resistance, alternate flows, and just
    various manipulation of the magnetic currents of the body.
8. Life Repair of emotive blockages of love, looking at fears, hate, etc.
9. Looking at the animals and their powers, and shapeshifting.
10.The teacher themselves are as varied in temperament as the sand
     on the seashore, some are FooLs like the first trump of the tarot,
      all the trumps are very good guidance on types of teachers. If
 you study them they can give insight as to your way of dealing with
 life.
11. One of the things I seem to study hard is game playing and solving
      problems, that was very intense and probably a brushing with
      magickal Path, because it is a path that might be very spirit
oriented, and the path of heart because spirit is Love. Love always
finds a way through any difficulties. The training of the Power of
Love is probably one of the most intense paths of the Spirit while
treading the practical application of the Wisdom of Love.
Raven
   ~V~

aven,
>> I'm not sure I got what you are saying, can you clarify this for me?
>> And what is a skati-sorcerer path? And how did you get there, how did it
>> come to you? Gloria
>
>> > Now, dealing with inner Gurus, and Infinity Teachers,
>> > who are spirits, if they teach you
>> > what is appropiate to you, and it is helping you understand the
>> > nature of reality and infinity, hey, why knock it, but, it is wise
>> > to have an inner Teacher who is experienced at this sort of thing,
>> > and, for that, one must desire this to happen at some point in their
>> > life, the teacher will almost always come when the student is ready,
>> > If the student is ready, to study something other than the usual
>> > path in which they are already well-versed in, the student must
>> > be ready to give up preconceived boxed ideas about the Spirit
>> > of man, and be ready to experience the Infinite in perhaps, a
>> > different Way, and in manifold degrees. This is a way to
>> > grow as a member of this creation, and that is to be willing to
>> > experience it in full form, with the Guidance of a Teacher,
>> > in the Spirit, a teacher with a physical body is great, but of course
>> > the Spirit body of the Teacher is essential for many of us
>> > in depth teaching and guidance principles.
>> > It is difficult to do this Path alone, and usually, one can get
>> > discouraged right at the beginning of the journey, so what I
>> > am saying is that it is pretty hard to do the Real Path alone, unless
>> > you are your own guru and have no problem with that idea. It
>> > does develope the co-ordination powers between the body, mind,
>> > soul, and spirit, so that the essential Being is one, and indivisible,
>> > and able to explore Infinity on his own.
>> > Raven
>> > ~V~
>>
>> Raven,
>> I'm not sure I got what you are saying, can you clarify this for me?
>> And what is a skati-sorcerer path? And how did you get there, how did it
>> come to you? Gloria
>
>
>Also, in regards to the out of body master teachers that come, when you
>come into contact with a being of Christ light out of the body there is
>absolute knowing of what/who that is. I would like to add teachers of
>Christ frequency don't announce their arrival with a name because when
>the time the ego is gone the name is gone also. So it is best not to try
>to apply human thoughts to this interior light, the CHRIST FREQUENCY IS
>GOD IN THE IMAGE OF MAN OR THE SECOND PERSON OF GOD. GOD THE
>FATHER/MOTHER IS PRESENT IN GOD THE SON, IT IS THE ABSOLUTE PURE
>FREQUENCY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TOUCHING YOU.
> This is the mind misusing the pure light of God to create a thought of
>what is happening.I always get a charge out of everyone naming their
>teachers, they don't do this from their God form because they don't have
>an identity. Does this make any sense to anyone?
> Once this occurs you are being watched spiritually and guided and even
>though you will meet lower forces to learn from them in terms of how to
>see through them, and what there job is...to torment, manipulate, and
>try to pull you away from the light. This is all a part of the
>purification by fire that will happen within as you burn out the
>ego/shadow. BUT, YOU HAVE HELP ONCE THIS HELP FREQUENCY OF THE HOLY
>SPIRIT HAS ENTERED INTO YOU. UNTIL THIS HOWEVER, I SUGGEST GREAT
>CAUTION. GLORIA
>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 15:38:22 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Jim B <JimBATnospampitnet.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: MS
Message-ID: <3364B65C.13B0ATnospamintercomm.com>

Jim B wrote:
>
> >The body needs minerals to run electricity. Especially zinc and copper.
> >Too much of a good thing? My clints with MS and other nervous system
> >disorders have dramatic improvement with mineral supplements.
> >Morgana
>
> Hi Morgana,
>
> My father was recently diagnosed with "progressive" MS. He's always on the
> lookout for new and experimental treatments. Do you, or any other list
> members, have specific suggestions? Also, he lives in Pittsburgh--do you
> know of people there that might be able to help? Sorry for going off
> topic.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jim

There is a place here in REno called the Century Clinic that hrings
people here from all over the world. I have actually interviewed a women
for my newspaper that was in a wheelchair for 12 years with MS, when Dr.
Tang finished with her in six months here, she was walking around just
like I do. You couldn't tell the difference between us. This article was
published in my newspaper and then was copied all over the country
because I still get calls on it. Anyone who wants information let me
know. Insurance may not cover this because it is alternative, they go
after the virus's, allerigies, bacteria, and several other things that
mainstream medicine never even looks at. Gloria
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:32:59 -0700
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dear confused in Gloria
Message-ID: <336533AB.1935ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>

> List Mystress call: Foul, Gloria!

whoa. methinks Mystress doth jumpeth the gun
since this one oughta take a month or two to peter out, let me be the
first peter off the block...

I would have desisted out of my infinite
compassion for all those straining to wade through their email
if not but for this:

> Most folks who have been on the list more than five minutes know that
> only Christians become Satanists... nobody else can, because nobody else
> believes in Satan...

so tempting to muse here about belief in faeries vs belief in satan.
no doubt intensely 'real' illusions of either can manifest to
whatever degree of reality one prefers?

> This is meant to be a forum of tolerance, with understanding that only
> the individual can know what path is right for them. Unfortunately the
> Christian Churches have a nasty history of intolerance,

as I understand it, Christians are explicitly commanded by
Saint Paul to be intolerant, and explicitly commanded by Jesus
to be tolerant, so the schizophrenic attitude is excusable,
no fault of theirs, just following contradictory orders.

> I write thus,
> knowing I am not the only person on the list who equates your name with
> Christian intolerance.

I think this is being quite unfair. I certainly did not associate
Gloria with intolerance. She has always sounded loving and truly
concerned with everyone's best interests.

I attend a Bible study group with fundamentalists, and I know
intolerance when I see it. The 'temptation of tolerance' is a common
theme among fundie preachers nowadays, given that another millenium is
around the bend yet again.

> And should a Satanist join the list, I would expect their beliefs to be
> given respect as possibly the best path for them,

phew! not by me!

> this list should be a safe haven from that kind of ignorant judgement.

yes, but not a safe haven of ignorance of evil/satan either.
(given that evil is another word for ignorance.)

Anyway, Mystress, thanks for sharing how your catholic upbringing
has left some wounds that may cause you to be projecting a little
bit on Gloria. Christianity as an institution certainly has many
sins to atone for, no need to throw out the baby Jesus, though.

let's all hug!
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:50:53 -0400
From: "Elwin J. Pretty" <eprettyATnospamtrytel.com>
To: "'k-list'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: God exists
Message-ID: <01BC540E.1F2F4C40ATnospamport34.trytel.com>

After reading many notes on this list I would like to quote something I received in deep meditation many years ago

GOD EXISTS
In each and every person
even though some may not realize it
therefore.
when you meet each person
you are meeting God
as you can learn from God
so can you learn from each and every person

This is not exemplified more readily than on this list

Elwin
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:04:14 -0700
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: millenial madness
Message-ID: <33653AFE.6C11ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>

off topic, sorry, maybe of interest given the recent Heaven's
Gate episode, more evidence for mass induced transformative
experience, probably many K cases among the 'religious insane'
mentioned in this bit about the religious fervor that arose in
the 1840's in America when William Miller predicted the
apocalypse, (this was the origin of the Seventh Day Adventists, I
believe):

from "White and Negro Spirituals" by Jackson 1943, 784.4J134w pg 99
----

"Others had been talking about the Day of Wrath. Vermont farmer
William Miller did something about it. In 1831 he picked up his Bible
and his pencil and he reckoned.
The result: The end of the world would come in
the spring of 1843. ... Miller's new idea was electrical. They flocked
to him. His meetings quickly took on all the camp meeting aspects, with
shouting, falling-out, rolling - the whole list of hysterical symptoms.

Nature seemed to work hand in hand with Miller. Biblically promised
portents appeared in plenty during the years of waiting, cholera
epidemics ... meteor showers ... rings around the sun ... Halley's
comet in 1835 ... another large comet in 1843 ...

'Miller Madness' filled many a suicide's grave and put many more
in the insane asylums. The 'religious insane' admitted to the
Worcester, Mass. asylum grew from 4 to 12 percent of all admissions
during the years 1841-3"

----

how many stories of misunderstood religious/K awakening are hidden in
that one closing sentence! somebody oughta write a book ...
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:15:46
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dear confused in Gloria
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At 16:32 28/04/97 -0700, Peter Norton wrote:
>> List Mystress call: Foul, Gloria!
>
>whoa. methinks Mystress doth jumpeth the gun
>since this one oughta take a month or two to peter out, let me be the
>first peter off the block...
>
>I would have desisted out of my infinite
>compassion for all those straining to wade through their email
>if not but for this:
>
>> Most folks who have been on the list more than five minutes know that
>> only Christians become Satanists... nobody else can, because nobody else
>> believes in Satan...
>
>so tempting to muse here about belief in faeries vs belief in satan.
>no doubt intensely 'real' illusions of either can manifest to
>whatever degree of reality one prefers?
 
Go ahead and muse away....

<snip>
>as I understand it, Christians are explicitly commanded by
>Saint Paul to be intolerant, and explicitly commanded by Jesus
>to be tolerant, so the schizophrenic attitude is excusable,
>no fault of theirs, just following contradictory orders.
>
  How confusing. So is Jesus or Saint Paul right?
  Either way, tolerance is the list guideline.

>> I write thus,
>> knowing I am not the only person on the list who equates your name with
>> Christian intolerance.
>
>I think this is being quite unfair. I certainly did not associate
>Gloria with intolerance. She has always sounded loving and truly
>concerned with everyone's best interests.

  Yes, Peter, that is your experience, and I pointed out that I value her
prescence to counsel those of like beliefs. I also commented that I can
feel love and wisdom from her... many seek her counsel, and the leadership
role she has assumed carries with it some responsibility to speak the
truth, not repeat old harmful lies.
  I am tolerant of Christians to and beyond the point where they are
tolerant of me.
  Suggesting that Witches and Iluminati need to be "saved" from thier
chosen beliefs to become Christians is very intolerant.

  to be fair.

  Others have written to me privately, at various times commenting on her
intolerance. They will reveal themselves if they choose. If it were only me
I would bitch private and sign it Serpent.
  It is signed List Mystress, because I am moved to speak out for more than
myself.
<snip>
>> this list should be a safe haven from that kind of ignorant judgement.
>
>yes, but not a safe haven of ignorance of evil/satan either.
>(given that evil is another word for ignorance.)

  well.
  The evil/ignorance of which I speak was lumping Witches, Illuminati and
Satanists together as one evil needing to be saved from thier beliefs with
christian prayer.
  Given that this "ignorance" stems from a church designed propaganda
falsehood... The Malleus Maleficarum, which has been used to slaughter
thousands, and destroy indigenous cultures all over the world, I would hope
that this "ignorance" is enlightened quick!
  
>
>Anyway, Mystress, thanks for sharing how your catholic upbringing
>has left some wounds that may cause you to be projecting a little
>bit on Gloria.

  Ah, just my stuff...of course. Except it isn't.
  Christian bashing is a popular pasttime of Witches, judging from what I
read on Alt.magick. Seems a waste of time, to me.
  I rarely indulge in Christian bashing, but I won't stand by for Witch
bashing either.
  Knowing that, I remind you that I have spoken up for other beliefs room
to be, at different times as well.

> Christianity as an institution certainly has many
>sins to atone for, no need to throw out the baby Jesus, though.

  Quoted him, didn't toss him. That must be yer stuff.
>
>let's all hug!
>
>
  Hugs are welcomed.

  I don't care if Christianity atones for it's "sins", I am not trying to
punish anybody.. be nice if it stopped committing them so thoughtlessly and
then defending them so vigorously tho..
  Blessings, Mystress.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
 *******************
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
     -- Hector Louis Berlioz
Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of
something else anyway. -- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide
review board
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:56:15 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Out-of-body experiences.
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At 06:18 PM 4/28/97 +0100, vic bonds wrote:
>Hi Gloria,
>This is a Q I will attempt to answer:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------
>Raven,
> I'm not sure I got what you are saying, can you clarify this for me?
> And what is a shakti-sorcerer path? And how did you get there, how did it
> come to you? Gloria
>A (shakti)energy Sorcerer Path could be an assortment of various odds
>and ends of shaman practices. The one I am currently studying is
>Carlos Castaneda's series of books on the Teachings of don Juan.
>The experiences I am experiencing is first of all is of course custom
>to my needs, I AM AT THE BEGINNING AND VERY INEXPERIENCED;

After reading the whole post, it sounds as though you are being modest.

Blessings, and good luck on your path.
John Halonen
Date: 28 Apr 97 22:17:57 EDT
From: Indira Singh <76460.3057ATnospamCompuServe.com>
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: For David...For all of us..
Message-ID: <970429021756_76460.3057_CHR75-5ATnospamCompuServe.COM>

-------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------

Message text written by INTERNET:david.bozziATnospamsnet.net

"I am very much into lucid dreaming and have been able to do this since a
child. I have also read a lot of Carlos Castenda's techniques and was wondering
how this fits into what you are talking about. He talks about contacting
inorganic beings in our dreams. Is this the spirit realm you speak of?

Do you lucid dream?
Also, have you experienced these astral travels yourself?

I believe lucid dreaming is a helpful tool on the path to enlightenment.
But what about traveling to different dimensions in the way that you
refer to?

-------------------- End Original Message --------------------
Hello David:

To answer your questions, sort of, yes and yes. Lucid dreams are a starting
point of one mental developmental tool available to us all. Carlos Castaneda was
taking about the same fundamental energy.

Other dimensions that are talked about are basically the dimensions encountered
by our subtle bodies. You have subtle bodies. They are "nailed" (my terminology
<g>) to your physical body around the region of your chakras. Depending on whose
system you use, we have three to 7 subtle bodies. I like to work with the 7
(rainbow body).

I would be very surprised if anyone on this forum did not have a lucid dream, an
OBE or other psychic experience as a child. It is part of the human condition,
part of the unused 80% of the brain to have our consciousness work this way. You
are supposed to use it, which is why we get acquainted with these things 'for
free" as children. Yes, these experiences are our birth right. Then why are
they not easily part of our adult life? Because of the potentially terrible
power behind them - *both* east and west (esp. the "native peoples" ref.
Castaneda) have developed societies where *very selected few* get taught to
develop them as youngsters. Why that is so - for practical reasons - I'm sure
we can all find answers within religions, socio-economics, and the politics of
"crowd control". For other reasons - oh boy - there's a lot more at stake than
just one person developing ESP powers.

About the body and the mind. Things happen in our brain to take care of the
body, and things happen in our brain to take care of the mind. We know a lot
about the former, we know a lot about the latter - but it just isn't as easily
accessible. IMO, it shouldn't be. It's a filter mechanism - not the best. Some
of our regular dreams are just to take care of the body (stress etc.) Other
dreams are to take care of our mind, our being, our energy, our evolution to
higher states of being, which goes on and on - from incarnation to incarnation.
The point is to develop to the stage where you can escape this cycle of physical
existance and move on to the next stage. this is generally known as nirvana, but
is also known by other names.

There are several ways of kick-starting these energies that cause these
phenomena: entheogen-induced (ref. Castaneda), trauma (e.g. surgery, NDE).
Needless to say, these are extremely dangerous ways. Other times they are
spontaneous (e.g. as children). What we are looking for are safe ways to
"develop" them. The spiritism based courses "provoke" these energies, sometimes
using very destructive techniques. They also borrow some techniques from
societies that mass induce them (trances, voodoo -- scary, more-mind-crowd
control stuff). This has traumatic side-effects even they are not aware of.
Systems such as kundalini and others, develop them within an "ecologically"
sound system of ethics, with (not foolproof) checks and balances. Many of these
checks and balances are cultural - and this is considered the big problem with
them today.

When dealing with development of the mind, care must be taken to protect it and
others. People think this *be careful* advice is so they can avoid harm to
themselves. No! others are involved!! Remember and believe the 100th monkey
story - we can create a world for ourselves that makes Hitler seem like sunday
school. On the bright side, good systems have developed over thousands of years.
This is not new stuff. I ask my friends to pick their system well, be careful,
but most of all, be successful. The rest of us are at stake.

I-A
"Practice safe dreaming - no alcohol and for god's sake, keep your eyes on the
road!"
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:28:50 -1000 (HST)
From: "RE:Virus Killer" <david.bozziATnospammail.snet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Re: Virus killer.

I'll summarize an article by Dr. Michael Colgan who is one the
world's leading experts on nutrition and anti-aging,regarding
an anti-viral mixture.

Honey, propolis, St. John's Wort, T-treeoil, zinc, vitamin C,
OKG(ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate),and royal jelly.

He says the research papers supporting its use on respiratory
tract viruses, bacteria, both gram negitve and positive, on
other infections, even wounds,piles to an 18 inch stack.

It's kills the AIDS virus in vitro within minutes.(that's in a
test-tube.) He advises leaving out the T-tree oil for AIDS
treatment.

Also highly effective for colds and flus.
The ideal amounts of each ingredient is unknown.
He says mix a sticky,thick elixir to suit your taste.
Sip and hold in your mouth as long as you can, every 30
minutes for half a day. That's the recommendation for
the flu virus. All these ingredients are in any health
food store or mail order company.

Nature has many virus killers.
Some others: reishi and shitake mushroom, garlic, echinacea.

A few immuno-stimulants:Ginseng, Co-Q 10, N-acetly cysteine(NAC),
melatonin.
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:02:30 PDT
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: reiki energy
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 Sunday I took a class in Reiki. When I was being initiated.
I felt very hot. Later I put my hands on someone and they were very
hot. The instructor told me that when she came to me she felt a
tremendous heat coming from my head. Later she did the healing on
me and said that my stomach area was hot also. Is this normal for
the K opening. I told her about the K before I took the class.
 I do at times feel heat in the head, but it has never posed
a problem.

     Anita

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:16:35 -1000 (HST)
From: Marie Gundersen <stonesATnospamlis.net.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hi everybody,

I am a middle-aged woman, living in NSW, Australia, seeking information regarding a possible connection between Kundalini and black-robed "aliens" (MIB??)
Is there anybody on the list that could offer some feedback on this subject?
 
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 01:28:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Fwd: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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David Bozzi wrote:

<< Last night I dreamt I split into
 two separate selves.
  >>

Funny, I had a similar dream recently in which I was driving a white car. A
friend was sitting in the passenger seat and another me was sitting in the
back seat. The backseat-me was horrified at the chances the driver-me took,
but the driver-me was completely confident and unafraid, just flying along.
 The dream was full of other symbolism as well. What a funny sensation. I
woke up laughing at both me's!

Ah, what lessons we give ourselves in our dreams!

Love :-)

Kat
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Date: 97-04-26 17:44:13 EDT

Last night I dreamt I split into
two separate selves.

My other self said to me,
"My, what an interesting place!"

I agreed and replied,"And it seems so
real too!"

My other half remarked,"What do you mean
'seems'? It is real!"

I insisted,"No, it is not real.It is just
a dream, for you and I are really the same."

My other self became flustered."No that is not
so. I am talking to you and you are talking
to me. How can this distance between us be
an illusion.? We are truly separate."

Then I stopped.

I surrendered the dream to the Spirit.

And then,

I woke up.

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