1997/04/26 13:31
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #195
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 195
Today's Topics:
Re: Geography
The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
Philip - another MS sufferer
RE: Unidentified subject
Re: Amy--Reading in Darkness
Re: Geography
Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Re: Geography
Energy Grounding?
Re: The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
Re: Geography
Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Re: Energy Grounding?
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:20:16 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Geography
Message-ID: <3361ACB0.2826ATnospambest.com>
> Hi Pam,
> I grew up in Virginia City right on top of the mines, in fact my
> grandmother came to Virginia City on a stagecoach and my father worked
> in the mines as a young man and owned a mine later on. So, that gold and
> silver does run in our veins. And, it does effect things, I had a hair
> analysis about 5 years ago and I had about 900% copper in me, they said
> where in the heck did that come from. I use to play as a child in the
> mill right in the ore vat.
>
> And, yes kundalini was active through out my childhood. We lived on a
> mountain called Sun Mountain, (Mt. Davidson) this is where most of the
> ore came from to build San Francisco.
>
> It is a very powerful area much like Sedona. Gloria
The body needs minerals to run electricity. Especially zinc and copper.
Too much of a good thing? My clints with MS and other nervous system
disorders have dramatic improvement with mineral supplements.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:30:08 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
Message-ID: <kpfcwHAwkdYzEwiZATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
crack ! crack !
there go Tom's balls
crunched by a friendly Lobster
snip ! snip !
welcome to the list
where unwelcome willies are surgically removed
by the cruel kind Goddess
munch ! munch !
the ecstasy of public castration
otherwise known as The Heart,
The Zen Doctrine of No Yogi - No Bullshit
Laughing Tom :}
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 12:30:45 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Philip - another MS sufferer
Message-ID: <a66jkaAldeYzEw1UATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
dear healers,
a friend of mine has MS and it has gradually been getting worse for 19
years until he is now unable to move himself and needs 24 hour nursing.
he too, like BOB DAVIS - KING OF MEN, has a great spirit and a keen
intellect and many friends
he has tried all kinds of therapies, two years of acupuncture to no
avail and we discussed various oriental/yogic therapies but none seemed
very relevant to his needs...
he has experimented over the years with every diet under the sun and he
knows the research into MS inside out
and so in the end i reckoned this was not something i was able to
intervene in and so we just talked and, since he is a writer (with a
voice activated computer), we just exchanged writings and gave feedback
to eachother...
and then, having kept quiet about my spiritual outlook on life since he
is an atheist and i didn't want an argument (!), i took a chance and
showed him something i'd written on shakti.....
and bang ! he's really sick for a few days and then he's twice the man
and has given up smoking and has a new sense of life and independence
about him even though he's obviously still physically incapacitated...
so was it chance coincidence ? or was it shakti ? who knows ? but it
seems to have worked well whatever it was......
thought you might be interested in this tale
regards Tom
a prayer for Philip Smelt in West London would do no harm even
so....although i suspect he'd be horrified if he found out anyone was
praying for him.
--
Tom Aston
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:53:26 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Unidentified subject
Message-ID: <336224F6.98EATnospamserv.net>
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Victoria said:
<snip>
I wonder if now we who have enough light are making love to the lovers
and mystics of the past, it is sad, but lovely, and I wonder if the
lovers of eternity are the first to transcend the time sense, do you
think maybe this time especially, we are meeting collectively in a
divine sense, and perhaps pairing off. It is a strange thing for sure,
but very good for a creative mystic, for music, and writing, and drama,
what do you
think?
This response is not meant to offend anyone. It does contain some
comments about sex so if you don't want to read it you should delete it
now.
Victoria,
I believe that lovers (soul mates) do transcend time. I believe
everyone has a "twin" and they may or may not be "in body" (living in a
physical body) at the same time. If they are, they usually are not
together. They would never spiritually evolve. Just my personal
opinion.
I do know that I have had a few astral lovers so to speak. There have
been times I have been asleep and wake up having the most intense
orgasm. Quite different from one, say my husband can give me. However
because I have not yet developed the skills to do travel other than
spontaneously, I have no control over what happens in my sleep. (except
in lucid dreams) I never see, or remember anything accept the
intense(wonderful) feeling I woke up to. That is where I got the idea
for my poem.
Do you write, act, play an instrument? Do your astral lovers give you
inspiration?
I also agree with you, it does make for some great writing and drama. If
you like I have a story that came to me in a vision. I believe it is one
of my past lives. I would love to add to this and make it into a short
story. It would also make a great film, lots of plot twists. Anyway if
you like I can send to you privately. It is just an example of what you
are talking about.
Light, and peace to you !
Pamela
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---------- Mike Wickett
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:13:27 -0700
From: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Amy--Reading in Darkness
Message-ID: <33621B96.21E0ATnospamflarity.com>
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx
Dear Amy,
I loved your poems. Isn't it fun to write and get therapy at the same
time.
Darkness is not to be feared.
Embrace it.
It is part of you and blessed.
Open up and let it come.
Become friends with your fears.
They are valuable instructors of your own nature.
That you recognize and accept them makes it much less likely that they
will ever manifest.
You can love your foibles and fears, just like you love your mother.
Love is universal and works on everything anytime.
I believe it is a common misconception that darkness can be avoided and
that you can stay in perpetual light.
Each emanates from the same place.
I believe we are all headed toward that source.
You cannot expect all heaven and no hell (whose definition?).
Make hell heaven.
Drink those poor unwanted emotions in and saute them with love.
You are greater than any fleeting emotion.
You have the greatest power--transformation.
When the words of castigation and praise evoke similar feelings--you
will have found your essence
Let the concepts of devil, demons, and evil do their part for those who
believe in duality.
> Also this week, my right nee is KILLING me (or was for one day) and a
> few days ago one morning I turned my head and all the sudden my neck hurt
> really bad.
Growing pains? Your tendons, ligaments, muscles and bones all grown at
different rates. A whirlpool bath with sage essence works wonders.
>From an interested pattern of light and dark,
known as
joe
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 09:26:48 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Geography
Message-ID: <3361BC46.540CATnospamintercomm.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
>
> > Hi Pam,
> > I grew up in Virginia City right on top of the mines, in fact my
> > grandmother came to Virginia City on a stagecoach and my father worked
> > in the mines as a young man and owned a mine later on. So, that gold and
> > silver does run in our veins. And, it does effect things, I had a hair
> > analysis about 5 years ago and I had about 900% copper in me, they said
> > where in the heck did that come from. I use to play as a child in the
> > mill right in the ore vat.
> >
> > And, yes kundalini was active through out my childhood. We lived on a
> > mountain called Sun Mountain, (Mt. Davidson) this is where most of the
> > ore came from to build San Francisco.
> >
> > It is a very powerful area much like Sedona. Gloria
>
> The body needs minerals to run electricity. Especially zinc and copper.
> Too much of a good thing? My clints with MS and other nervous system
> disorders have dramatic improvement with mineral supplements.
> Morgana
HI,
I've been on a nutrimental balancing program since then and have dumped
most of the copper by using mineral resplacements that do it. They say
it was the reason for by back problem, copper eats out discs. And sure
enough, as soon as I began to recreate balance through the minerals,
removing anything toxic my back got better, and my allergies hve
improvded tremendously.
I would never had known this except while doing my newspaper I did a
story on several people with terminal cancer, they all the same kind of
results from their hair analysis, usually short in just about everything
with some toxic things like aluminum and others. They did mine and
without saying a word about my back problems I was told that I likely
had a very weak spine due to this copper and I was also prone to MS if I
didn't get rid of it. I've stayed on the supplement program and it has
been a real gift.
It is a controversal therapy called Nutrimental Analysis because it
really gets down to the basic work up of the body, which when brought to
balance chances everything. I believe it is an important part of the
cure picture because folks get well... if they don't wait until they are
almost gone to start. Both of the patients I followed were in advanced
Cancer, but it has helped me and many of my friends.
Gloria
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 09:34:34 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Message-ID: <3361BE17.2E35ATnospamintercomm.com>
>
> a prayer for Philip Smelt in West London would do no harm even
> so....although i suspect he'd be horrified if he found out anyone was
> praying for him.
> --
> Tom Aston
HI,
The purpose of telling the story about Doc Marquis was to show the power
of prayer, I think that message was lost the conversation with Lobster.
Doc had his life changed because others he didn't even know were praying
for him. So you see God works in mysterious ways.It isn't always for the
healing of the body but that of the soul, which is far more important
for the long haul. Gloria
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:24:00 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Message-ID: <33624840.5865ATnospambest.com>
Tom Aston wrote:
>
> dear healers,
>
> a friend of mine has MS and it has gradually been getting worse for 19
> years until he is now unable to move himself and needs 24 hour nursing.
>
The emotional substance behind MS is anger, extremely hidden. The
disease is linked to live polio vaccine also, there is virus present in
the body years later. Concentrated dried aloe vera has been known to
knock out the virus, as have other intense anti-viral treatments.
Mineral supplements, particularly copper, zinc, and rare earth have been
very helpful.
Great news about the shakti- that is what I use on both MS and cancer,
too.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:26:13 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Geography
Message-ID: <336248C5.24B5ATnospambest.com>
Claudia McNeely wrote:
>
> >
> > The body needs minerals to run electricity. Especially zinc and copper.
> > Too much of a good thing? My clints with MS and other nervous system
> > disorders have dramatic improvement with mineral supplements.
> > Morgana
> >
>
> Could this also relate to Fibromyalgia?
>
> Love & Light
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> Claudia McNeely
> whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
> www.texramp.net/~whitedove
> Facilitating gentle healing on all levels
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Claudia, I have excellent results with fibromyalgia simply by teaching
my clients to ground energy and run energy and by releasing held muscle
patterns along the spine. Yes, energy-related.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 14:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Atrious77ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Energy Grounding?
Message-ID: <970426145518_1321463524ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Here in the past few days i have noticed a tremendous build up of energy in
my head sometimes it feels as if it is going to explode . How do i get rid of
or transfer some of this energy to other parts of my body? Any help would be
greatly apreciated!
Thank You All
Atriuos
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 07:46:06
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970425074606.301780c2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
At 11:30 26/04/97 +0100, Tom Aston wrote:
>The Alchemy of Love in a Nutshell
>snip ! snip !
>welcome to the list
>where unwelcome willies are surgically removed
>by the cruel kind Goddess
>
>
>Laughing Tom :}
Hey, Tom, how did you know I've been hanging around alt.eunuchs.questions?
You must be psychic. Blessings, Mystress.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:16:02 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Geography
Message-ID: <33626282.24A8ATnospambest.com>
Claudia McNeely wrote:
>
> > Claudia, I have excellent results with fibromyalgia simply by teaching
> > my clients to ground energy and run energy and by releasing held muscle
> > patterns along the spine. Yes, energy-related.
> > Morgana
> >
>
> Hi Morgana,
>
> I have developed fibromyalgia. I am a healer myself, I know how to ground
> and run energy. Is there something in particular that I need to do. I
> work a lot by healing the emotions behind the illness, but cannot find the
> emotional connection with this. With help of other healers, I am making
> progress, but it still pops up when I least expect it. Any help would be
> much appreciated.
>
> Love & Light,
> Claudia
Claudia,
I know this is going to sound strange,
but in every case of fibromyalgia there has been a physical disturbance
in the environment. Blocked pipes, messy roomates, unfinished
remodeling, or extreme physical clutter. Does this bear any relation to
your physical environment?
The other condition I always see is CONTROL. This is realized on two
levels. One is deep within, an issue about accepting vulnerability and
need. The external one, especially with healers, is that they are so
determined to protect themselves from client/other energies that they
have built a very good protective system. This system is mirrored in the
body as adhesons along the spine, causing physical pain.
This is assuming you've ruled out food sensitivity (including
eliminating all potato, tomato, and egplant from your diet), cleaned up
all and any mold/mildew contamination, and had your progesterone levels
checked no matter what your age. Wheat allergy or milk allergy can mimic
fibromyalgia.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:21:26 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Philip - another MS sufferer
Message-ID: <3361F344.5407ATnospamintercomm.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
>
> Tom Aston wrote:
> >
> > dear healers,
> >
> > a friend of mine has MS and it has gradually been getting worse for 19
> > years until he is now unable to move himself and needs 24 hour nursing.
> >
> The emotional substance behind MS is anger, extremely hidden. The
> disease is linked to live polio vaccine also, there is virus present in
> the body years later. Concentrated dried aloe vera has been known to
> knock out the virus, as have other intense anti-viral treatments.
> Mineral supplements, particularly copper, zinc, and rare earth have been
> very helpful.
>
> Great news about the shakti- that is what I use on both MS and cancer,
> too.
> Morgana
It sounds like you have a positive approach to it, that's great. Gloria
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:25:24 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Atrious77ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Energy Grounding?
Message-ID: <3361F432.67DCATnospamintercomm.com>
Atrious77ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Here in the past few days i have noticed a tremendous build up of energy in
> my head sometimes it feels as if it is going to explode . How do i get rid of
> or transfer some of this energy to other parts of my body? Any help would be
> greatly apreciated!
> Thank You All
> Atriuos
Atriuos,
Can you release the energy by taking it back down the body into the
heart center ? How familiar are you h of your chakras? Do you balance
and move through out all of the centers, or is the energy pretty much
blocked or held is certain areas?
Is the enrgy movingn each center? Do you know and se the colorand
sounds from each? Tell me aboutor meditation? Then I will tell you what
comes to me. Gloria
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