1997/04/22 00:59
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #184
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 184
Today's Topics:
Re: Say a little prayer for the flood??
Re: Why I love my cat?
Re: Question for Tom
Re: Hardly soft . . .
Re: Death of Ego
Re: Psychic self-defense
Re: Death of Ego
Re: Why I love my cat?
Re: Death of Ego
mind
a glimpse of the future
mind
Re: Why I love my cat?
Re: the senses & elements
Re: Well marked insults for lobster
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re: mind
Re: Rules rule
Re: Hardly soft . . .
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:20:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Say a little prayer for the flood??
Message-ID: <970421191919_-1267926819ATnospamemout16.mail.aol.com>
Dear Mo:
You have my wholehearted prayers and thoughts for your friends and family
during this time. Having lost everything in a hurricane when I was 12, I
know what it's like. It is so devastating, you hardly know where to begin to
rebuild your home and life.
However, as in any tragedy, people reach out and help one another in
countless ways to begin anew --- hope springs eternal. We were touched by so
many wonderful people and eventually life got back to *normal*, but with a
new appreciation for all that we had. And I don't just mean physical
possessions.
I hope that all who have been flooded find this to be true and I pray for
those who are in the flood's paths to have the strength to face whatever
comes there way.
Love and prayers,
Kat
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:35:09 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Why I love my cat?
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><snip>
>> I love her regardless. I don't know why, and I don't care.
>> Oh, by the way, I hate my parents.
[. . .]> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>>
>>
>But, don't you realize that hate hurts no one but you???? As long as there
>is hate in your heart, love cannot enter. You may not get along with your
>parents, may not like them, but hate is a pretty strong emotion. Having
>this strong emotion in your heart and aura will eventually cause disease.
>Will be glad to help you release the buried emotions if you would like.
>
>I think it is great that you love your cat.
>
>Claudia McNeely
>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
*Claudia, Claudia. . . I get along fine (well, ok <g>) with my
parents. Take it easy, my friend.
*It's not about me, but about people in general (ok, me included) .
. . an explanation would ruin it . . .
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Douglas Sunlin
I walk out of ignorance,
Experimenting.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Date: 21 Apr 97 19:34:14 EDT
From: Indira Singh <76460.3057ATnospamCompuServe.com>
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Question for Tom
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Tom,
Have you heard of "other methods", other energy practices that aren't called
kundalini, but which definitely use techniques to raise kundalini? In other
words, the participants think they are doing some new age generic "energy work"
but in fact they are treading on dangerous ground?
If you have, can you list some of them here.
Thank you,
Indi-Anna S.
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:37:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hardly soft . . .
Message-ID: <970421193644_313338355ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
Lobster:
So simple yet most profound! I'm saving this post for the next time I try to
explain this -- youv'e done a terrific job.
You seem to be different lately, more reflective? more serious? (Well, not
counting Dull and Ugly which I thought was hilarious!) However they come, I
love your insights.
I've tried to reach your site several times and also tried to email you at
your address and it just doesn't work. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the booklist, too. I'm absorbing print like a sponge lately.
Love :-)
Kat
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:39:04 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Death of Ego
Message-ID: <19970421.193910.16894.21.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Douglas wrote:
<<<<<*Go for it! If it works for you in the long run, that's all that
matters. As far as guilt and fear, do they have a single source? I
suggest
ignorance. Do our "notes" match on this?>>>>>
Douglas, ignorance is true. Although I feel it all boils down to fear -
but what is fear? Why are we fearful? We are fearful cause we don't
know that what we are seeing or thinking is an illusion..... Yep, that
would be ignorance. Agreed on that account.
<<<<<Maybe you can help me clear up a little confusion about
<contradictions. On the path to enlightenment, we are instructed to
embrace
<a realization that we are "one with the Universe". Then, it seems, we
are
<asked to detach from it! Or we're asked to detach "something" from it.
<Maybe there is no contradiction . . .>>>>
As we embrace the realization that we are one with the Universe and all
it is in all its' Glory, we still want to remain detached. And as I see
detached IMHO, it means allowing the Universe to do what it needs to do
for your own spiritual growth. Without us clinging to the fact that we
want the Universe to do what WE want it to do, and forcing it upon the
Universe.
I see it as giving the Universe 100% full commitment to each and every
moment. A commitment meaning, we will give to the Universe and to the
world and to our brothers, a commitment to this moment in time - not to
the past, and not to the future. In this moment, there may be a need for
communication of some sort to clear the air -- sometimes silence is
golden and sometimes silence is not golden - it is yellow. Maybe that
means that sometimes we will be in prayer with the Universe or our
brothers via communication, or in silence, through meditation with the
Universe, or with our brothers through giving ourselves or them the
'space' to do whatever it is we/they need to do for our/their own
spiritual growth..... It doesn't mean being yellow, or a martyr, whether
with the Universe or our brothers. 100% commitment to the moment would
be acceptance to whatever is in the moment. And with this acceptance to
the Universe or your brothers, then comes acceptance to ourselves and to
what we feel and think. How can we not honor the Universe without also
honoring ourselves?
Thank you, Douglas.... this has just answered a question I've been asking
myself / Universe/God regarding why my prayers & my belief in miracles
and healing just *didn't* work for my ex-husband. I remained positive
until the very end, without wavering. It kind of blew me away when he
didn't receive the miraculous healing and went and died on me. LOL.
Apparently I'm still trying to force myself on the Universe. WOW.
Still yakking,
xxxtg
"Said the hot dog vendor to the Buddha, "Make me one with everything!"
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:16:31 -0800 Douglas Sunlin
<dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com> writes:
>xxxtg:
>
>>I am getting *glimpses* of, that there is no ego, other than the
>guilt &
>>fear thoughts we may have. And once the guilt & fear are let go,
>walla!
>>no ego.
>>
>>I am open to seeing it differently if this is not the case....
> *Go for it! If it works for you in the long run, that's all
>that
>matters. As far as guilt and fear, do they have a single source? I
>suggest
>ignorance. Do our "notes" match on this?
> Maybe you can help me clear up a little confusion about
>contradictions. On the path to enlightenment, we are instructed to
>embrace
>a realization that we are "one with the Universe". Then, it seems, we
>are
>asked to detach from it! Or we're asked to detach "something" from it.
>Maybe there is no contradiction . . .
>
><> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>Douglas Sunlin
>I walk out of ignorance,
>Experimenting.
>Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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>
>
>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:29:49 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Psychic self-defense
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>....Will, at least if you are focused on God Consciousness. Those who are
>not want to develop their will and power which takes one into lower
>force energies of right and left hand forces. This is not where most are
>on this list. Gloria lodpressATnospamintercomm.com <> <> <> <>
*Are you saying I shouldn't be on this list? :-)
The object of my research is whether kundalini yoga can do anything
useful & concrete in which the US Army would be interested. So far, it
doesn't seem that kundalini has anything to offer them. Kundalini seems to
offer no help towards atheletic performance or any special psychic powers,
for instance. The mystery continues . . .
If they're seeking spiritual enlightenment, then of course more
power to them! <g>
So Kundalini is "merely" one of many pathways to spiritual growth,
thus I praise it! This list certainly abounds in fine people who have a
genuine love and wisdom. Personally, I have my own Way. Kundalini does not
to seduce me; it seems to be too dangerous in relation to its benefits. But
I'm open to education, as always . . .
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Douglas Sunlin
I walk out of ignorance,
Experimenting.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:41:56 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Death of Ego
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>I have not experienced any attatchment being 'at one' with anything. It is
>unconditional. I feel no attatchment, just total peace and connection and
>understanding. The only attatchment is the desire to reach that state
>again.;-)
>
>Claudia McNeely
>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
*Bingo. On a good day, I am as close to the starving child in
Ethiopia as I am to my big toe. At the same time I try not to be "hung up"
on the child's suffering/not suffering or stubbing my toe or not. You're
right, the payoff (on a good day) is peace, connection and understanding.
Perhaps the danger is becoming attached to detachment! :-}
Peace, my friend.
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Douglas Sunlin
I walk out of ignorance,
Experimenting.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:55:15 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Why I love my cat?
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[snip]
>In which case your cat is a substitute for your parents
>and your parents a substitute for a cat
>My advice is keep the cat
>and learn to see yourself as a kitten
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster
*Hoped you would like this riddle.
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Douglas Sunlin
I walk out of ignorance,
Experimenting.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:07:17 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Death of Ego
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TG sez:
>[. . . .] communication of some sort to clear the air -- sometimes silence is
>golden and sometimes silence is not golden - it is yellow. . . .
*Ooh! That's neat!
>[. . . .]what we feel and think. How can we not honor the Universe
>without also
>honoring ourselves?
*Absolutely!
>Thank you, Douglas.... this has just answered a question I've been asking
>myself / Universe/God regarding why my prayers & my belief in miracles
>and healing just *didn't* work for my ex-husband. I remained positive
>until the very end, without wavering. It kind of blew me away when he
>didn't receive the miraculous healing and went and died on me. LOL.
>Apparently I'm still trying to force myself on the Universe. WOW.
*Glad to be of service (shrug)! You have my condolences.
Flow with the go, as they say...
*Well, in return you just lit up something for me:
*possibly* we can be attached to smaller things, but when our awareness
expands to All That Is, then we must become detached from everything, in
the way that we can't see the whole Earth, even from space. Does that make
sense?
Nice chewing the fat with you (so to speak). Happy
Earth Day.
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Douglas Sunlin
I walk out of ignorance,
Experimenting.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:01:24 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: mind
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Astral body or mind or ego body newly evolved from collective animal
pool looks small and dark and opaque.
As it grows birth by birth in human body it grows in density and
develops white opaque patches.
With further lives it starts devolping dark patches of colours along
with dull white opaque patches.
By the time it transceds life it looks like dull coloured patches
in a painting . This is casual body.
Later on the colours start becoming bright and transparent when ego
shedding starts.
Still further on of the seven colours starts predominating in this
coloured body
With ego shedding the size of body also starts expanding.
White light has seven basic colours.
Each basic colour represents positive emotion.
Love, devotion, compassion, creative intelligence or art, wisdom,
truth and ????????( probably tantrick art) represent
these colours.
Ultimately only one colour for which the soul was intended remains.
and the body has this colour in bright brilliant transparent
colour
Same colour of different souls intermingles and a critacal mass
is reached which further transcends in the form of Buddha
energy with shakti(viberations) as major part.
From there evolution further proceeds to suniata, but by this time
the evolution survives MAHA PARLAY that is destruction
of our galaxi in which our solar system exists.
Stage by stage this evolution goes higher and higher till all energy
and matter is converted into viberations
Viberation ar like void ..transparent ...no light ..nothing and
whole univese rests in suniata . This whole cycle is said
to complete one life of BRAHMA, and this period in vedic
books is given as 1840320000 years
During this life BRAHMA manages each solar system by intelligenc
in Bhuddic plane , each glaxi system by some other intelligent
plane so on so forth.
HUMAN life is like of kalapa of Brahma.
We learn by intelligence of each and every kalapa of our body.
Brahma learns by intelligence of each and every human life.
Evolution has repeated itself again kand again in both micro and
macro system retaining the best and straight system.
VOID contains tremondous energy in form of high frequency of
viberations.
After again a long period of rest of void , in which all knowledge
of evolution has faded , a minor stirring in the void
creates a BIG BANG and this starts another process of
evolution. All of viberations gety converted into matter
energy and viberation mixture.
ram
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:30:46
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: aegisATnospamigc.apc.org
Subject: a glimpse of the future
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I found something very beautiful in my mailbox tonight,
it's effect on my K. is glowing heart energy.
It invites it self to share. Breathe it in...
Blessings, Serpent.
****
>From: "Kathryn Aegis" <aegisATnospamigc.apc.org>
>Organization: Antioch MACR
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:35:45 +0000
>Subject: a glimpse of the future
>Reply-to: aegisATnospamigc.apc.org
>Priority: normal
>Sender: owner-women-lATnospamskate.org
>
>Whenever I work at an event, I produce a piece of artwork to reflect
>upon its significance, such as a tape or a photo montage. This time it
>takes the form of an online vigniette. Feel free to forward it to
>anyone--enjoy!
>
>***
>
>I have taken a brief trip into the future and been given the
>opportunity to see how beautiful it will be. I have returned with a
>renewed sense of hope and optimism for the path that can be taken by
>humanity in its evolution.
>
>My journey began this morning as I dressed for my expedition, pulling
>on a pair of jeans and selecting an appropriate t-shirt ('If Gays and
>Lesbians are given civil rights, everyone will want them'). Digging
>through the pile of shoes in my closet, I found my combat boots, the pair
>which survived hundred of hours of marching, chanting, patrolling,
>holding the line. Those were more confrontational days, and at times I
>had felt as battered as the worn leather that for nine years had pounded
>asphalt, concrete, mud. As I bent to lace the eyelets, I smiled to
>think that at the decrepit age of 32 I was coming out of retirement again
>to lend experience to the kids, the youth, the ones who come after to
>claim their own piece of respect. They weren't going to let me
>enjoy that rocking chair just yet.
>
>Despite the sunshine, an icy wind tore through my clothing as I
>walked down to Dupont Circle. Would people show? But they were
>already there, milling in anticipation, setting up booths, readying
>the stage. No counterprotesters in sight. The police were relaxed
>and chatty as I reviewed the day's schedule. Youth Pride was going to
>happen. As the sun continued to warm, men and women of all ages
>filtered into the circle. Some brought their dogs. Some dressed
>in rainbow colors or printed t-shirts. Some wore vinyl with metallic
>lipstick. The drag performers splashed vividly in hues of bright green
>and purple, vamping and flirting their way through the crowd.
>
>The hours blended into a series of sensual impressions. Jessica Xavier,
>transgender activist extraordinaire, doing hotlicks on the electric
>guitar. Two girls kissing for a photographer. A mod guy from the
>Polyester Liberation Organization adjusting his tie. Sista Face
>braving the chill in an evening gown to give it up to the crowd. A
>nervous girl about to give her first speakout. Friends huddled
>together on the grass. A dog wearing a backstage pass on his collar.
>
>These were youth that had experienced taunts from schoolmates, physical
>assaults, parental betrayal, drug addictions, the worst of treatment
>from everyone, and they were not here to shake their fist. My
>generation had pounded on the door until it opened a crack, now was
>the time to offer a hand through it. Today was for saying to the world:
>here I am, I exist, I love, I hope, I dream, I struggle. They had
>created within this circle of grass a new world, one in which everyone
>could express their individual beauty without restraint. It would only
>last five hours, but each of them would carry the strength of this
>experience, the knowledge that it could be done, into the larger world.
>In the words of my friend Shelly, spoken by her lover Heidi:
>
> There is no box that can hold me. There is no
> category that defines me. I live outside the
> oppressive binary society. I live in the margins
> of the marginalized, because that is where I find
> reality. That is where I find 3-dimensional thinking
> that comprehends more than just X and Y. That is
> where I find room enough to breathe.
>
>
>(For information on the Youth Pride Alliance, which celebrates the
>dignity of all young people as they discover their identity as gay,
>lesbian, bisexual, transgendered or straight, visit their web site at
>http://www.clark.net/pub/stw/ypa.html)
>
>
>
>
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>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:24:30 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
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All human beings see life alround not with the senses but with
mind through kalapas
These kalapas of ours measure speed of light as 300000 km per sec.
because of viberation element of certain proportion in them.
As one goes up plane by plane in meditation or in higher form of
life of casual body, kalapa of his body will change and
will have higher viberatory element.
If he measures speed of light it will be much less say 150000 km
per sec.
Time will dilate for him to four times. He will feel that time
moves slowly for him. If he plays cricket or tennis the
ball will move towards him at one fourth speed and he
will have all the time in the world to hit back and win.
Space contracts for him or he feels that his consciousness has
expanded. He can see more .
This process of time dilation and space contraction goes on plane
by plane.
The difference between "THEORY OF RELATIVITY" and "QUANTUM THEORY"
gets explained if one understands that observer sees thro
his kalapas and ratio of shakti to shiva isdifferent for
every observer. He sees thro his kalapas.
If we take this process still higher, a stage comes when time dilates
to infinity and space contracts to zero .
It means that time and space disappear for that kalapa.
The kalapa has gone to Suniata. It is present every time at all places.
It is ominipresent and omni potent.
Kalpa has become GOD...
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:16:48 PDT
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Why I love my cat?
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>Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:42:22 -0800
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
>Subject: Why I love my cat?
>
Douglas,
I have a little gray tabby, which I love with all my heart.
She is my best friend in the world. She is innocent of ignorance and
judgement. They are great, because they love you no matter what. I
know too many people who judge and ridicule. Be glad she gives you
the attention she does. Even though she has some conditional needs
does not mean she is ungreatful of your attention. They love it. My
cat is SPOILED ROTTEN! We have a great trust and sheis very giving.It
is just in the personality. My cat wants our attention all the time.
She is a character. Loaded with personality. Very loving and fun
loving. You'd love her. She trusts me and will let me do anything to
her. We are a lot alike.
I love my cat too. And I am glad you do too.
P.S. Men usually do not like cats.
Her name is Patches.
Anita
> I love my cat.
> She's ignorant to a fault and thoroughly selfish. She won't be
>friendly with me unless I'm petting or feeding her. Or changing her
>litterbox.
> If she finds a mouse, she will torture it until it dies, then eats
>it. She won't eat anything but meat. She doesn't care if her claws
>sometimes hurt me.
> She is completely uninterested in my spiritual search. She has
>near-zero chance of enlightenment in this lifetime.
> I love her regardless. I don't know why, and I don't care.
> Oh, by the way, I hate my parents.
>
><> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>Douglas Sunlin
>I walk out of ignorance,
>Experimenting.
>Please correct me if I'm wrong...
><> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 23:06:16 -0700
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the senses & elements
Message-ID: <335C5558.3823ATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
>>
> Why do you call the integration of the senses in the causal energy "the
> horizontal"?
By horizontal I mean conscious awareness in the sphere, plane or loka
wherein the majority of your consciousness resides. Vertical awareness
is a movement up or down into other spheres, loka, planes, etc..
>
>
>
>
> Do these voids correspond to the three worlds?
Yes, Stod-Bar-Smad--Vajrayana traditional nomenclature
How can there be "three"
> "voids"?
Not to be facetious but- the same reason there are umpteen varieties of
cats --Got me?
>
> Further thanks,
>
> Jim
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:58:05 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Well marked insults for lobster
Message-ID: <335C536D.3370ATnospambest.com>
Whew! Lobster, Joe made a meal of you here, thank Goddess it was with
love. I want to take issue with the statement quoted below, too. Those
of us with psychic powers have had a huge struggle to adapt them to a
use society will accept and to put a veneer on them so that people
perceive them as "friendly" rather than "frightening".
My baby is learning to spin his first top with psychokenesis and he's
reading at two years old. I wouldn't call him handicapped. He was
speaking to my mind when he was three months old- just as I spoke to my
mother. I've been training his talents as my mother trained me.
Telepathy and precognition have always been in my family and have
nothing to do with "enlightenment" or with kundalini. Kundalini
accelerated in me what was already there and probably would have
developed with or without "K".
Morgana
Joe said (quoting Lobster);
> "Every psychic power a handicap"? Did you ever wonder how primitive
> peoples was able to find and populate the many remote islands of the
> vast Pacific? You make this too easy lobster. May I reword this
> sentence to say, "I find psychic abilities not conducive to my
> spiritual development." And "For me, true spirit is a closer
> connection to important people in my life."
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:18:52 -1000 (HST)
From: D Bozzi <david.bozziATnospammail.snet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Chapter One.
Just begun,
So the story goes.
"Hello," she says.
And like a breeze,
Inspiration flows into my head.
She rides the waves of time.
Kali's got the moves.
Tick-tock,
Goes the plot.
The story never stays the same.
Chapter two.
Just for you.
Kali's captivating.
As I approach,
She says, "yes."
And all the rivers flow.
Beutiful glide.
The way it slides.
Reaching deep inside.
Raging to the sea.
(With sychroncity.)
It's a Mystic Adventure,
With you.
A twist. A turn.
The flame still burns.
With a pioneer's excitement.
Blazing eyes.
Endless skies.
And we're the pilot.
Seasons turning.
Still burning.
For the next episode.
Heroes cast.
Built to last.
But the movie always ends.
Myth and reason.
Rules and treason.
Where's the next life going to lead?
It's a Mystic Adventure with you...
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:45:32 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: david stephen bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: mind
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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, david stephen bozzi wrote:
> Sunil R Peswani wrote:
> >
>
> > After again a long period of rest of void , in which all knowledge
> > of evolution has faded , a minor stirring in the void
> > creates a BIG BANG and this starts another process of
> > evolution. All of viberations gety converted into matter
> > energy and viberation mixture.
> > ram
>
>
>
> This "minor stirring,
>
> That ignites duality and the process of the
> physical universe.
>
> Is this the inquiry into the possibilty that
> there is an alternative to Truth. (Doubt)
>
> Ego: "What if All is NOT One?"
I started as atheist
After some years Awarenss became my God
But then again I lost God
Later again Suniata (transceded kalapa which was omnipotent , omnipresent
became my God for some time.
Then again this minor stirring . Why??
Did evolved God forgot with time though in timelessness.
Or God is still a mystery.
This is my question as well .
This is my KOAN (A question that is always inside every moment)
They say this koan will ultimately lead to higher life but answers will
never be there about God.
So ultimately let me throw out all my knowledge which is not useful here
and now.
I am incomplete.
ram
> > Respectfully, >
> David
>
>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 03:23:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Atrious77ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Rules rule
Message-ID: <970422032338_1818722846ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
Lobster i am just another lurker out there but felt the need to coment on
your post . It was good i think one of if not the best i have read.By all
means keep them coming, expecialy the ones with incite on K.
Atrious
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:21:06 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hardly soft . . .
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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Lobster:
>
> So simple yet most profound! I'm saving this post for the next time I try to
> explain this -- youv'e done a terrific job.
>
> You seem to be different lately, more reflective? more serious? (Well, not
> counting Dull and Ugly which I thought was hilarious!) However they come, I
> love your insights.
>
> I've tried to reach your site several times and also tried to email you at
> your address and it just doesn't work. Any suggestions?
I faced the same problem and then left it there....ram>
> Thanks for the booklist, too. I'm absorbing print like a sponge lately.
>
> Love :-)
>
> Kat
>
>
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