1997/04/21 11:09
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #182
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 182
Today's Topics:
RE: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels & attachments
the list
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Re: letting go,picking up,dissolution of labels and affections
Re: I agree Lissette
Re: I agree Lissette
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Re: Death of Ego
Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels & attachments
More on ego
Booklist
All Things Dull & Ugly
Death reborn
Hardly soft . . .
mind
Forcing Shakti
Collective consciousness
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels & attachments
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I also relate but have all but 40 hrs a week to "sit on a mountain top".
Believe it or not, it is still not enough. I appreciate the book list.
Hang in there. our time will come...
M
At 04:58 PM 4/20/97 -0700, Pamela wrote:
> This is an interesting subject ! Funny how some of us seem to be in the
>same place in our journey. I find that I have been feeling a pull for
>the last year to be alone. I mean this is really strange for me. I used
>ot be a workaholic. I worked and had so many volunteer things going I
>was always busy. Then I was laid off about 3 years ago. It was the best
>thing that could have ever happened to me.
>
>I remember sitting in the middle of my living room, after a week of
>being unemployed, feeling crazy because it was quiet and I didn't have
>anything to do. Eventually I did quit the mass volunteer activities and
>found another job with with a flexible schedule. Things began to change
>in my life. I thought I knew me but boy am I finding out who I am(?)
><smile>
>
>I have been in this mode to be "completely alone". I have gotten rid of
>a lot of old stuff that I was keeping in boxes. ( what an amazing
>feeling to get rid of all that so called important stuff) I am reading
>books like The Pathwork of Self-Transformation (Eva Pierrakos), Seat of
>the Soul (Gary Zukav), A Chakra & Kundalini Workbook (Dr. john Mumford)
>Psychic Healing w/Spirit guides & Angels (Diane Stein), Wake Up Calls
>(Eric Allenbugh Phd.)
>
>I am realizing the duality in me. Go figure! The personal power I have
>and a lot of others things. Only problem is I am struggling with the
>fact that I am the mother of 16 son, 10 year old daughter. I am a
>community leader and a lot of people seek my help. I am a wife. Right
>now at this point in my life I would love to go off and sit on the top
>of a mountain and discover "the rest of whatever it is I need to find
>out". I just want to go into myself. If only I could spin a cocoon
>around myself. I have just become very selfish in the fact that I feel
>the need to just get rid of things and go away and be alone. I have no
>idea even why I feel this way.
>
>I have let go of people, things and some attitudes about life I used to
>have. I guess I just need to find some balance. Just a little about me.
>Any comments would be appreciated.
>Pamela
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:05:43
From: Peter Spear <invitroATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: the list
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Hi...This is love..The embodying spirit of all things.
If I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body,
that I may boast, but do not have love, I have not profited at all.
Love is long suffering and kind.
Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up,does not
behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become
provoked.
It does not become provoked.
It does not keep account of the injury.
It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.
It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all
things.
Love never fails.
Peter in New Zealand
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:07:21
From: Peter Spear <invitroATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: the list
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970421160721.411f9da2ATnospampop.ihug.co.nz>
Hi...This is love..The embodying spirit of all things.
If I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body,
that I may boast, but do not have love, I have not profited at all.
Love is long suffering and kind.
Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up,does not
behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become
provoked.
It does not become provoked.
It does not keep account of the injury.
It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.
It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all
things.
Love never fails.
Peter in New Zealand
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:43:04 -1000 (HST)
From: "DB:RE:Ego" <david.bozziATnospammail.snet.net>
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Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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tg xxx raised the issue of ego;
Ego?
Sure know how to open a can
of worms!
I see ego as an imaginary dream
character trapped in space and time.
Set off by meaningless inquiry into the
impossible possibility that one can be
separate and alone.
So,
Ego death would be the realization that
it never was or never could be.
Being an extension of the Infinite, We have
the power to do anything.
Including imprisoning ourselves in an
illusion of pain.
We can make it seem as real as we intend.
In most dreams we forget our waking lives.
We invent a different past and adhere to it
as if real.
I think we're doing that now,
On a universal level.
And as convincingly real as this world appears,
Only suggests just how powerful We really are.
Dispelling ego would be nothing more than
Waking up and remembering Our
Holy Identity.
Easier said than done. So much energy was invested
In the dream of isolation that that much is needed
To wake up.
And since we fell asleep as one, We need to
Awaken as one.
With Love We look upon oneanother as Equals
Because deep inside We ARE the same.
I see this realization as the key to
Our awakening.
Peace and Light!
PS:Thanks "A" for the tips. Nothings working.
I don't believe in accidents and am
Begining to wonder???
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:42:14 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: letting go,picking up,dissolution of labels and affections
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Sunil R Peswani wrote:
> A good discussion between Tom Yogi and E.Jason.
> I think....whole issui is of Shakti and its meaning.
> In my opinion arrising energy if looked as contamination would
> lead one to different path than treating Energy as Shakti and with reverence.
It is us that clears the channels
and God that *reveres us* through the channels
Because we are composite in nature with different degrees of opening
this does not make us imperfect or unclean or less
indeed it is the whole reason for our desire to increase in Love
because we have a vision or ideal to which we attain
People are sometimes outraged by a statement
such as "I hate god"
but if the god is the little gods of chakras and powers of angelic
voices
of shakti and this and that fad - then?
This is all idolatory (not Paganism - paganism is not idolotary - for it
worships the perfection in the part)
So in hating - One can increase in Truth and Love
That is why in Islam One of the Names of Allah is - you guessed it
Hate
These kinds of doctrine are open to misinterpretation
they can be seen (or rather not seen) very erreously
so we have to learn to detach from concepts that have
a powerful emotional impact because they may lessen our understanding
instead of widening it
The Bhagavad Gita which you have probably read many times
is so profound in its teaching
with Lord Krishna advocating a General to go to war
fantastic teaching - worthy of the highest praise
but again open to strange interpretation . . .
Also in order to help we need to be objective
but if we do not occassionly relax
we become strained and unnatural
When people say someone has great presence
people think they are discussing "a great being"
but the Greatest Being (God) we are mostly unaware of
so too with the lesser being of the person without
perceptible presence and power.
I feel that the emotional independence, the flattening of the peaks of
the emotional
body is one of the benefits of regular meditation.
Your insights are worth repeating without comment . . .
> I am sure this is tough path.
> It would be simpler if this energy is looked at inneutral mood
>
> Neither with hate nor with respect, but as past karma
> contamination to be cleared by SAMTA OR BALANCE.
> Positive emotions like love , devotion etc. should natuarally
> arise as per your seed of evolution. Otherwise it is a ego energy copying
> the Suniata for its survival.
> A person with Wisdom or Creativity SEED will not be in natural
> growth if he he develops devotion or love or any other positive emotion.
> His past karmas will not come out and he will be adding other
> ones . This will go on increasing in him Split personality or mind dualism.
> Any outside incident or thought will be reacted by both SUB CONSCIOUS
> and CONSCIOUS mind differenty thereby strenthening one or the other ego
> mind.
> A difficult road.
Most Kind Regards
E Jason
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:24:13 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: I agree Lissette
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Hi all,
Here's my non cents worth of wisdom re; egos on the K-list., that's really
strange, I have been on the K-list since Jan. 97, and I have seen
the list take so many twists and turns, and enjoy it so. I never know what
is going to be there next, including what and how I write, it is a source
of great interest and inspiration to me, and my personal "coffee Bar", if you
will, where great topics re: the source of all sadness and happiness, life,
itself
and what brings the life into sharp focus but the k-force which is Spirit.
If there is ego, I do not mind, because, when we have k running wild like on
this list, I pity the human who has it, as well as pitying the spirit who has
a human, both are painful and delightful, so, it is something and it is nothing
to me, to witness you stalking shadows of ego, while others chase after dreams
of enlightment, it is all the same to me, pure Kundalini or Spirit.
Love,Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love,love, love,love,
Raven
~V~
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>
>Hi Pamela,>
>
>> I have to agree. Lately I have been deleting without really reading this
>> stuff. I hope that the postings begin to change and we get back to the
>> subject of Kundalini. I am no expert by far but I do know lately some of
>> the things being posted are not on subject.
>> Pamela
>>
> You dont have to be an expert to observe the amount of EGO Tripping
>that goes on... displays of "knowledge" sometimes with the intent of
>impresing not teaching, we can perceive that. Lets go back to Love,
>(shall we?) so basic and essential...
>Love always,
>Lissette
>
>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:33:56 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: wildwingsATnospampeconic.net
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: I agree Lissette
Message-ID: <19970421.063357.16894.5.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Dear Vic...
You took the words right out of my mouth (and said them Oh so much better
than I ever could!). Thank you for saying it so perfectly.. I have
enjoyed each and every letter also, from the mundane to the flying ego's.
The letters seem to flow exactly as the Kundalini flows through us:
(in your words):
<<< I have seen>the list take so many twists and turns, and enjoy it so.
I never know
<what> is going to be there next, including what and how I write, it is a
>source> of <great interest and inspiration to me, and my personal
"coffee >Bar", if=> you> will, <where great topics re: the source of all
sadness and happiness, >life,>itself>and <what brings the life into sharp
focus but the k-force which is>Spirit.>>>
This list IS the Kundalini. And we are right on schedule....
Lots of Love,
xxxtg
"If you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, you are looking the
wrong way."
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:24:13 +0100 vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
writes:
>Hi all,
>Here's my non cents worth of wisdom re; egos on the K-list., that's
>really
>strange, I have been on the K-list since Jan. 97, and I have seen
>the list take so many twists and turns, and enjoy it so. I never know
>what
> is going to be there next, including what and how I write, it is a
>source
> of great interest and inspiration to me, and my personal "coffee
>Bar", if=
> you
> will, where great topics re: the source of all sadness and happiness,
>life,
>itself
>and what brings the life into sharp focus but the k-force which is
>Spirit.
>
>If there is ego, I do not mind, because, when we have k running wild
>like on
>this list, I pity the human who has it, as well as pitying the spirit
>who=
> has
>a human, both are painful and delightful, so, it is something and it
>is=
> nothing
>to me, to witness you stalking shadows of ego, while others chase
>after=
> dreams
>of enlightment, it is all the same to me, pure Kundalini or Spirit.
>Love,Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love,love,=
> love,love,
>Raven
>~V~
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 02:20:26 -1000 (HST)
From: bob boyd <kundaliniATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199704211220.CAA19887ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Kindly delete me from your list.
Thank you
Bob Boyd
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:23:53 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Death of Ego
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970421082345.006a78d0ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Some interesting reading can be found at:
http://www.osho.com
on the topic of ego.
I feel to live life and experience elation and love can be done with
detatchment. I still have EGO though so cannot comment to much on the
subject.
I think there is EGO and it is a chain that ties us to this physical world.
It keeps us from rising to the spiritual realms we are capable of.
It is habit and habitat and the fear of niehter.
In the movie "The Usual Suspects" a character says, "The greatest trick the
devil ever played was getting the world to believe he doesn't exist."
The same can be said of EGO.
Peace and love,
John Halonen
At 07:24 PM 4/20/97 -0400, tg xxx wrote:
>Evening....
>
>(Love that word -- so balanced). Anyway, I would like to get some
>various thoughts from you on the ego or the death of the ego, what is
>ego....
>
>I am getting *glimpses* of, that there is no ego, other than the guilt &
>fear thoughts we may have. And once the guilt & fear are let go, walla!
>no ego.
>
>I am open to seeing it differently if this is not the case....
>
>Thanks,
>
>xxxtg
>
>"These are merely my opinions. If they were the Biblical truth, your
>bushes would be burning..." (anyone's burning out there?)
>
>
>
>http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:07:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
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Subject: Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels & attachments
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Pamela:
You have described my life! Only difference is now my son is 20 and my
daughter is 16. I've always been a happily dedicated and loving wife and
mother (and volunteer -- Didn't know how to say no?), but now I feel a
tremendous need to have time for myself -- and lots of it!
I know there are many things being accomplished (especially in the night),
but there are times I feel as if I'm in a "holding pattern". Why? What am I
on hold *for*??? I feel curiosity about this, but am not distressed by it. I
know that things are in order and will happen accordingly. I also have the
beginnings of a feeling of anticipation about something, but know not what.
I've felt even more need to be alone lately and detachment isn't really an
option, it's just happening.
Looking back, I've been detaching from emotional responses for some time now.
I also have given many things away simply because I didn't want things
anymore and needed to make life much simpler. I have to say though, I got a
little carried away when we moved last year and gave away almost everything
we owned! My husband kept saying are you sure you want to get rid of this or
that. He was rather unsettled by it all! In our new house, I have little
other than necessary furniture and some items I truly am drawn to, not just
for sentimental reasons, etc. People who come to this house are shocked to
see how different everything is. It has made old neighbors who come to visit
very uncomfortable, which was a surprise to me.
So much of the old me has *died* that I hardly recognize myself. Inside,
I'm an observer of my own actions, reactions, emotions and feelings as much
as anyone looking at me from the outside. Perhaps this is one of the aspects
of detachment Yogi Tom was describing. I know all this discussion of
detachment has been very applicable to me. How about that thread on
synchronicity Tom mentioned??? It also seems to be playing a bigger and
bigger part in my life. This list is especially synchronistic for me -- I
can't tell you how many times I've been wondering soemthing only to find the
info suddenly appear within days on this list. (Even something on ADD which
I needed for my son!!)
The more I simplify life, the easier life becomes.
The more detached I get from my emotional attachment to outcomes,
the more universal and unconditional love I feel.
The more unconditional love I feel,
the less I feel any inclination to judge anyone.
The more I allow life to just flow and go with it,
the more synchronistic life becomes,
and the more I know I am loved by the universe.
Any thoughts from the list?
Love :-)
Kat
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From: pamelaATnospamserv.net (Pamela)
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To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (Kundalini)
Date: 97-04-20 20:00:55 EDT
This is an interesting subject ! Funny how some of us seem to be in the
same place in our journey. I find that I have been feeling a pull for
the last year to be alone. I mean this is really strange for me. I used
ot be a workaholic. I worked and had so many volunteer things going I
was always busy. Then I was laid off about 3 years ago. It was the best
thing that could have ever happened to me.
I remember sitting in the middle of my living room, after a week of
being unemployed, feeling crazy because it was quiet and I didn't have
anything to do. Eventually I did quit the mass volunteer activities and
found another job with with a flexible schedule. Things began to change
in my life. I thought I knew me but boy am I finding out who I am(?)
<smile>
I have been in this mode to be "completely alone". I have gotten rid of
a lot of old stuff that I was keeping in boxes. ( what an amazing
feeling to get rid of all that so called important stuff) I am reading
books like The Pathwork of Self-Transformation (Eva Pierrakos), Seat of
the Soul (Gary Zukav), A Chakra & Kundalini Workbook (Dr. john Mumford)
Psychic Healing w/Spirit guides & Angels (Diane Stein), Wake Up Calls
(Eric Allenbugh Phd.)
I am realizing the duality in me. Go figure! The personal power I have
and a lot of others things. Only problem is I am struggling with the
fact that I am the mother of 16 son, 10 year old daughter. I am a
community leader and a lot of people seek my help. I am a wife. Right
now at this point in my life I would love to go off and sit on the top
of a mountain and discover "the rest of whatever it is I need to find
out". I just want to go into myself. If only I could spin a cocoon
around myself. I have just become very selfish in the fact that I feel
the need to just get rid of things and go away and be alone. I have no
idea even why I feel this way.
I have let go of people, things and some attitudes about life I used to
have. I guess I just need to find some balance. Just a little about me.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Pamela
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:12:44 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: More on ego
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970421091236.006a5c44ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Another neet clip I saw was in a Steve Martin movie where he's talking
to a street sign and the sign displays, "There are more things in Heaven
and Earth than you can dream in your philosophies."
And I thought wow. That's really cool.
John Halonen
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Booklist
Message-ID: <970421102309_-1635059641ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>
Pamela included a booklist in her post. I just posted something about
synchronicity on the list and here's some more of it. I was thinking day
before yesterday that I'd really like to have a list of books that others on
the list found interesting (and to see if we're all reading the same books!
I'm reading or have read 3 ot the 5 books below.) Has anyone read The
Energies of Transformation by Dr. Bonnie Greenwell? If so, is it worth
tracking down a copy? Also, What about Fear No Evil by Eva Pierrakos?
One I'd recommend is Where Two Worlds Touch by Gloria Karpinski -- not about
K, but a very good book.
<< books like The Pathwork of Self-Transformation (Eva Pierrakos), Seat of
>the Soul (Gary Zukav), A Chakra & Kundalini Workbook (Dr. john Mumford)
>Psychic Healing w/Spirit guides & Angels (Diane Stein), Wake Up Calls
>(Eric Allenbugh Phd.) >>
Love,
Kat
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:48:32 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: Swiszczowski <SteveSwiszATnospamaol.com>
Subject: All Things Dull & Ugly
Message-ID: <335BB680.4A35ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
All things bright and beautiful?
>
> ALL THINGS DULL & UGLY
>
>
> All things dull and ugly,
> All creatures short and squat,
> All things rude and nasty,
> The Lord God made the lot.
>
> Each little snake that poisons,
> Each little wasp that stings,
> He made their brutish venom,
> He made their horrid wings.
>
> All things sick and cancerous,
> All evil great and small,
> All things foul and dangerous,
> The Lord God made them all.
>
> Each nasty little hornet,
> Each beastly little squid,
> Who made the spikey urchin,
> Who made the sharks, He did.
>
> All things scabbed and ulcerous,
> All pox both great and small,
> Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
> The Lord God made them all.
>
> AMEN.
Light and Love with thanks to Theresa's Jokers
Most Kind Regards, Lobster
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:32:30 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Death reborn
Message-ID: <335BC0CE.5F2FATnospamdial.pipex.com>
tg xxx wrote:
>
> Evening....
>
> (Love that word -- so balanced).
> I am getting *glimpses* of, that there is no ego, other than the guilt &
> fear thoughts we may have. And once the guilt & fear are let go, walla!
> no ego.
mmm . . .
Seems reasonable
should keep as all occupied for . . . a while :)
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:09:12 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Hardly soft . . .
Message-ID: <335BC968.5ACBATnospamdial.pipex.com>
What people believe in is largely irrelevant. It comes into being for a
variety of reasons. However the importance that people attach to their
personal beliefs can cause problems both for themselves and others.
If they insist on being right or if they insist others should see things
as they do; we end up with conflict. We are able to easily tolerate
differences of opinion and understanding.
Strong beliefs are often a form of rigidity and hence weakness.
The genuine experiential knowing only exists comfortably in a free
flowing vessel - anything rigid and hard it breaks wide open.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster (better believe it)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:59:29 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: mind
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970421220833.12521A-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Location of mind ...size of our physical body extending out 10 to
12 inches outside and alround. It is named as EGO BODY OR
ASTRAL BODY as well.
It consisst of billions of kalapas in various formations.
Size of each kalapa as given by Guatam Buddha is 1/46656 of dust
particle ground by a horse driven chariot on highway.
Main consituents of kalapa are SHIVA(matter or energy) and SHAKTI
(viberations) along with emotion(transparent colour) and
"I" ego.(opaqueness)
Mind grows in first stage of evolution by increasing kalapas by
adopting various births
Life is only instrument with the help of which matter or energy can
be converted into viberations. And this is done by living
entity thro thought production which produces kalapas .
VIBERATIONS can survive great vaccums where matter and energy
cannot survive.
So first stage of human evolution is increase in size of ego or
astral body.
This ego body lives thro death of human body. It is like shedding
leaves by a tree every autumn season to grow new leaves and
increase the tree size.
This ego incrreases by effort to succeed in life and fulfil the
desires.
The second stage of human evolution is to shed emotions which
divide the humanity like hate anger fear etc. This makes
the astral body kalapas lighter and increases
viberations by converting more energy.
Transcending is the third stage of evolution of mind. Positive
emotions make the kalapa lighter . And due to increased
quantity of kalapas ..they come nearer to eachother. After
a certain critical quantity is reached , they collapse to
form a white whole and ascend to higher plane.
Transceded kalapas form what we call CASUAL BODY. This body has
very high viberatory element and hence can survive
PARALAY of our solar system.
Even when our solar system collapses this body will survive the
vaccum created and this casual body will find another life
in distant star and evolve further.
Astral body cannot survive solar parlay but it can survive earth
parlay to evolve further on another planet.
So even if hydrogen bombs destroy the earth your astral body will
find life on another planet and evolve.
A further transcending happens when casual body drops all of ego.
After ego is dropped , only unity emotions of love ,
devotion ,compassion and wisdom and creative intelligence
etc. remain to differentiate different bodies.
This causes merger in bodies of same emotions and again a critical
viberation mass is reached and the bodies after leaving all
their positive unitary emotions in BUDDHIC PLANE go to
Suniata .
Only viberations (shakti) goes to suniata as AWARENESS
BUDDHIC PLANE is plane of COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS (attn. Manoj
Nanda as this was your query.)
AWARENESS is the viberatory energy that can purify your body of
all positive and negative emotions.
ram
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:05:16 -0400
From: Dennis Nord <norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com>
To: Kundalini Message <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Forcing Shakti
Message-id: <335B9E4C.41C6ATnospamhsd.utc.com>
Eric --
I have "Kundalini and the Chakras: A Practical Manual - Evolution in
this Lifetime" by Genevieve Paulson. Tried the exercises (for the same
naive reasons) numerous times over a couple of weeks. Nothing.
Does this mean I'm not ready? Why is Shakti withholding?
Dennis Nord
norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 23:35:39 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Cc: ManojATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in
Subject: Collective consciousness
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970421230440.12521B-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
All souls that evolve to Suniata ( Buddhahood) leave all their
kalapa memory of positive emotions along with evolutionary
supportive knowledge in this plane.
These souls were living lives of Angels or Bhodisattvas or Adepts.
Only when critical mass of such souls in merging is achieved
can their evolution happen. That is why they help us souls
in our evolution.
E. Jason wrote " first shall be the last and the last shall
be the first.
Jon Locke wrote" Aliens require us to survive for their
survival"
Though they were first still they have to wait for all
humanity to join them to make the critical mass of souls.
The COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS exerts her viberatory force on us
humans . More souls go to Suniata more this force increases
This exerts more force on us humans. This will make K- enegy
awakening in more and more souls as time passes as noted by
list members. K= awakening was rare phenamena 100 years
earlier.
Collective consciousness also exerts pull on us as per its
quality. Suppose 100 souls have evolved with love emotions
and one soul has evolved with wisdom . Then evolution forces
on humans will be 100 times more for love oriented souls
compared to wisdom oriented soul.
Survival of the fittest emotion.
No knowledge that helps the evolution is lost .It is there in
Buddhic plane and can be tapped by meditation.
Vedas came from this plane that is why it is said that vedas are
eternal.
This is also my inner voice.
ram
I shall be going on holiday for atleast 10 days from
23rd. I should get my post removed for those days.
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