1997/04/19 15:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #178
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 178
Today's Topics:
Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels and attachments
harmless...
Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels and attachments
harmless...Spirit.....?
Re: Beloved
Re: kundalini conception is the problem
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:32:28 -0400 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels and attachments
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.970419141258.16639C-100000ATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
You are not alone, at all.
I feel like I am continually being picked up in the snakes jaws, rattled
and thrown into the air.. leaving me to fall in a different space of
conciousness and self.
My parents were everything to me. I was over at their house every day. For
all of my life. Now I am having a hard time going over once a week. I need
my space. I have let go... even of my children. Strip away every
attatchment until all that is left is the bare self... and the self that I
am finding has all the layers, like that of an onion. I strip away from
myself layer by layer... when will it end? or should I say when will I
find my beginning and end?
Sometimes I wonder where it all will lead. Sometimes I feel like running
away into the unconciousness of again being a houswife, only dedicated to
her family... but I resist and plunder on.
I feel like so many things of myself are dying, I have a hard time
recognizing my self, at times but knowing that this 'new' self is more
truer to me than I have ever been. ..and in that there is rebirth.
With my family I share my new self with them. Last night my friend
(who is also on the same path) and I went over there and candled their
ears. My family has so much physical pain... we also do Reiki on them.
I have a large family and every week more of them want some treatment:)
.... I am finding that they are all starting to change in ways. Without my
even trying to explain to them what's happening to me. They seem to be
effected.... It's interesting how the intelligent, energy effects changes
in people, without you having to speak a word to them. They are effected.
So Tom... you're not alone.
Keep in faith, that the pureness of the truth will light your and your
loved ones ways.
WaterFall
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Tom Aston wrote:
> am i alone in having found tremendous need to let go of friends and
> family and childhood and parents for a while, only to pick up all these
> relationships again later on, but with a feeling of non-attachment that
> took quite a while to get used to....
>
> classic dilemma of the nice normal mystic - how to let go and yet
> maintain appearance of normality at same time ? how to avoid offending
> others by letting this letting go show ?
>
> inner secret process of letting go can require periods of seclusion and
> medittion which are not always easy to come by if working.....
>
> sometimes one may even need to GO FORTH Buddha style and just walk away
> from the old life if it won't provide an environment for you to grow and
> develop spiritually.....but Western culture not keen on this, seen as
> asocial....
>
> soemtimes something has to die for something new to grow, so am wary of
> laying down the law on whether one should retain conventional
> relationships......
>
> i know a Buddhist family therapist and you should hear what she says
> about families even though she spends her time trying to heal them and
> keep them together......
>
> conditioned existence is not all its cracked up to be sometimes, and
> Bardo account of running from the Clear Light to a new body is
> intrinsically related to the relationship with father and mother.....
>
> everything has to go in the end...nothing is worth holding onto, but
> that doesn't mean it is still not possible to love or nurture
> others....it may just mean one does not necessarily fulfill all that is
> expected of us by others in fulfilling conditioned behaviour
>
> letting go is no sin even when it's the ones we love we're letting go
> of....
>
> sometimes the mystic will face a clearcut choice between the light and
> obeying family and social conventions, and i would say, go to the light
> every time and have faith, but do it as gently as possible, like a ship
> slipping its moorings for the open sea, which takes faith in one's own
> experience and respect and tolerance for others too......
>
> in the long run, you may find everyone comes back to you anyway on a
> completely new level if you are patient and consistent.....
>
> done the right way, letting go can even bring respect from others who
> may not really understand what's going on because mysticism is beyond
> their realms of experience....
>
> in the end, one can only live in truth, and with shakti, that comes from
> within, initially at least.....and one ignores her at your peril....
>
> (it took a long time to learn this on my part...)
>
> Mystic Tom (who chatted with Dad on phone only this morning.....)
> --
> Tom Aston
>
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:48:07 -0400 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: harmless...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.970419143619.16639D-100000ATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
It's not a big deal to me...
If the need to react bubbles up and the silly ramblings of others effect
you in a negative way then maybe it's bringing up some issues that you
need to deal with.
I have to admit that some of it did bring a rise up in myself but I
realized that I was just reacting and tried to figure out why it bothered
me.... understand it and let it go.
I liken it to...
...them finding the need to run totally naked through a crowded place
screaming insanely :)
why....?
need for attention?
trying to get some garbage out of their systems?
trying to shock and get reactions from others on the list?
simply just letting it all go?
I dunno' why people need to do this,
but I do know that kundalini and Tantra awkening sometimes has us doing
some really strange stuff... haivning to do with getting to the core of
who we are. I think like partaking in a primal scream.... just letting it
all hang out:)
but I try to have respect for what others feel the need to do...
maybe someday I'll be doing it too?
hehehe who knows..
WaterFall
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Pamela wrote:
> Lissette said:
> <snip>
> This list is for people interested in kundalini and spiritual awakening,
>
> <snip>
> spiritual sharings of sincere people's feelings. I guess we love games,
> but these are not very entertaining to me..
> <snip>
>
> I have to agree. Lately I have been deleting without really reading this
> stuff. I hope that the postings begin to change and we get back to the
> subject of Kundalini. I am no expert by far but I do know lately some of
> the things being posted are not on subject.
> Pamela
>
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:05:41 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: letting go, picking up, dissolution of labels and attachments
Message-ID: <335933A5.70D6ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Tom Aston wrote:
>
> am i alone in having found tremendous need to let go of friends and
> family and childhood and parents for a while, only to pick up all these
> relationships again later on, but with a feeling of non-attachment that
> took quite a while to get used to....
On this Tom, I hope very much you are alone . . .
Non-attachment is inhuman. It is a lack of involvement
- it is a position of superiority.
(I should know this is a Lobsterian position)
I believe non involvement - egoic distancing is temporary.
It is very much part of a particular Vedantic-Buddhist tradition of
emotional independence and detachment.
However it is a question of degree and maturity.
In Jewish Kabbalah - mysticism was only taught to mature
well balanced family men (sadly rarely women - if at all
- though this is different today in some circles).
In Sufism family life and social integration of men and women
is fundamental to genuine growth.
Pagan spirituality is grounded in involment with people and life.
We have an emotional body, we are emotional creatures and if this denied
it will come out in abhorrent attachments.
You will never see the Gods and Goddesses better than in other people.
> classic dilemma of the nice normal mystic - how to let go and yet
> maintain appearance of normality at same time ? how to avoid offending
> others by letting this letting go show ?
If you are abnormal - do not blame mysticism - you are abnormal - there
is something abnormal in you or the practise. (I should know I have
ended up a lobster . . .)
> inner secret process of letting go can require periods of seclusion and
> medittion which are not always easy to come by if working.....
Get up earlier - go to bed later. Go on retreats - you have weekends
and evenings - work shorter hours - come on . . .
> sometimes one may even need to GO FORTH Buddha style and just walk away
> from the old life if it won't provide an environment for you to grow and
> develop spiritually.....but Western culture not keen on this, seen as
> asocial....
Tom - if you walk away you are walking the easy path
- back in there. (I know - I spend a lot of time running away)
> soemtimes something has to die for something new to grow, so am wary of
> laying down the law on whether one should retain conventional
> relationships......
Law?
Celibacy does not make you spiritual and sexual expression as you know
is no lack of sacredness. My guess is that you have not quite overcome
your sexual nature as you believe. I have not mine - and I see little
merit apart from Siddhas in doing so.
Incidentally these abilities come anyway, celibate or not . . .
As for conventional relatioships are you now advocating a hermit
existence?
> everything has to go in the end...nothing is worth holding onto, but
> that doesn't mean it is still not possible to love or nurture
> others....it may just mean one does not necessarily fulfil all that is
> expected of us by others in fulfilling conditioned behaviour
My dear Friend I believe we should overfill others expectations where
this is not
destructive to either party or the relationship.
> letting go is no sin even when it's the ones we love we're letting go
> of....
Sin?
Who is interested in sin . . .
If you Love someone you do not let go of them
you just do not try to keep them . . .
> sometimes the mystic will face a clearcut choice between the light and
> obeying family and social conventions, and i would say, go to the light
> every time and have faith, but do it as gently as possible, like a ship
> slipping its moorings for the open sea, which takes faith in one's own
> experience and respect and tolerance for others too......
You will never be presented with the choice
Maybe it is time to become more involved with the path of Sufism . . .
"Be IN the world - not of it" (though I would advocate being in, of and
beyond)
> in the long run, you may find everyone comes back to you anyway on a
> completely new level if you are patient and consistent.....
>
> done the right way, letting go can even bring respect from others who
> may not really understand what's going on because mysticism is beyond
> their realms of experience....
Everybody is sacred Tom, everyone is on a path of growth
"The First shall be Last and the Last shall be first"
> in the end, one can only live in truth, and with shakti, that comes from
> within, initially at least.....and one ignores her at your peril....
Do not beat your wife with one hand
whilst offering alms to the Goddess with the other
Rather beat the Goddess :0
> Mystic Tom (who chatted with Dad on phone only this morning.....)
Our parents have more to teach us then Shakti ever can
- they are the very embodiment of darkness and light
and the complete range in between.
We may hate or Love them, ignore or whatever but we are
an expression of their Love and however twisted or supportive
they are the most important people we will ever know . . .
despite the Guru-Chela sanctity.
Most Kind Regards,
Lobster
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:15:51 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: harmless...Spirit.....?
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Dear Nancy,
I really, really loved your below statement,
because it reminds me of Spirit.
Spirit"s nature seems to be free,
and does let things, all sorts of things
hang out in a Big Way on,
the physical Reality Clotheslines, so, it is not
embarassed if it's underwear, that is 20 years old,
is hanging in the breeze,
flapping, clapping, madly at your face,
when you walk in it's Gate,
so, remember me, in your dreams,
that's where I'd be,
a mad, mad, Spirit with nothing
to lose but God's gleam in my eyes,
soft ramblings, and bubbles, rising up through
naked crowds with a primal scream,
just letting it all hang out, so, I,
the Spirit can be Free. ~V~
>It's not a big deal to me...
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--------------------------------------------
If the need to react bubbles up and the silly ramblings of others effect
>you in a negative way then maybe it's bringing up some issues that you
>need to deal with.
>
>I have to admit that some of it did bring a rise up in myself but I
>realized that I was just reacting and tried to figure out why it bothered
>me.... understand it and let it go.
>
>I liken it to...
>
>...them finding the need to run totally naked through a crowded place
>screaming insanely :)
>
>why....?
>need for attention?
>trying to get some garbage out of their systems?
>trying to shock and get reactions from others on the list?
>simply just letting it all go?
>
>I dunno' why people need to do this,
>but I do know that kundalini and Tantra awkening sometimes has us doing
>some really strange stuff... haivning to do with getting to the core of
>who we are. I think like partaking in a primal scream.... just letting it
>all hang out:)
>
>but I try to have respect for what others feel the need to do...
>maybe someday I'll be doing it too?
>
>hehehe who knows..
>
>WaterFall
>
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Pamela wrote:
>
>> Lissette said:
>> <snip>
>> This list is for people interested in kundalini and spiritual awakening,
>>
>> <snip>
>> spiritual sharings of sincere people's feelings. I guess we love games,
>> but these are not very entertaining to me..
>> <snip>
>>
>> I have to agree. Lately I have been deleting without really reading this
>> stuff. I hope that the postings begin to change and we get back to the
>> subject of Kundalini. I am no expert by far but I do know lately some of
>> the things being posted are not on subject.
>> Pamela
>>
>
> * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
> Looking through Lightworking eyes,
> Living through a Loveworking heart.
>'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
> In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
>
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:39:04 -0400
From: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
To: "Marco Antonio Galvan Ph.D" <magj1ATnospamibm.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Beloved
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Thank You. That came at a time when I needed much.
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From: Marco Antonio Galvan Ph.D <magj1ATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Beloved
Date: Friday, April 18, 1997 9:40 PM
Beloved K-friends:
Nothing has ever happened, Nothing have ever existed!
This Nothingness you are.
Only Self is.
Self is what you are, You are That
Fathomlessness in which experience and concepts appear.
Self is the Moment which has no coming or going. It is the Heart, the
Atman, Emptiness.
It shines to Itself, by Itself, in Itself
You are what gives breath to life,
You need not search it, IT IS HERE.
You are That through which you would search.
You are what you are looking for!
And That is All it is.
Only Self Is.
You simply cannot deny that you are Consciousness.
You dwell in the Lotus of the Heart as Joy in Bliss.
This very process, Self Knowledge is that which is worth sacrificing
anything for,
because everything else is just a mirage rising out of Consciousness.
You are the indweller of all Beings
You are the greatest Love and the dearest of all Lovers.
Love is attraction of Self to Self in Self.
There is nothing besides this Love, this source of Joy.
See your own Beauty and you are the Indweller, this Love,
and the Beauty Itself.
Neti, Neti; but what you Are cannot be rejected.
It is Now only.
It is still the Now which only is.
Only Self is.
The present Moment is Light, is Self.
This Moment is not bondage or freedom.
It is the most precious beyond ideation.
This Moment is the screen on which all projects.
It is always Still and Untouched and it is out of time.
There is no difference between the Ultimate and this Presence.
To be in this moment abandon all desires,
Including the desire to be in it.
That which has no name or form
Has millions of names:
Being, Awareness, Bliss, Isness, Atman, Truth, Self,
Beaty, Freedom, Divine Love, Fullness, Emptiness, Nowness, Hereness,
Silence.
BEFORE NOTIONS AND CREATIONS YOU EXIST, SO THERE ARE NO WORDS FOR THAT
Beyond words and language. Self does not need to understand Itself,
Freedom is before the concept of freedom. You are what remains when
The concepts of "I", mind, and past disappear. Nothingness is no concept.
Identify as Peace-Beauty-Love, do no experience it.
Know "I am inactive, the activity takes place in me,
I am That, I am the screen, I never come and never go."
Identify as Consciousness Itself.
If you do not forget who you are,
this appearance of activity is the Cosmic Dance.
Stay as "I am", not what comes and goes
The individual I-sense is mind, but Being has no frontiers.
It is aware of Itself Itself. Identify as Being.
When mind is pure you will see Self in all Beings.
Purify the mind by removing all concepts,
Especially the concept of purity.
The Self reveals itself to the Empty mind
Which is Consciousness.
Even the ugliest of doubts and the most separate of differences
Rise from the Beautiful Source as Isness
In Self there are no do´s and don´ts.
If there is unhappiness you are not unhappy,
You are Untouched Awareness of this unhappiness.
As waves are not separate from the Ocean, nor rays from the sun,
You are not separate from Existence.
You are the Moment in which all is.
You are not different from Existence, than Being.
See Being everywhere by not looking.
The Seeing is Being, not the objects seen.
Consciousness is the original Mother.
If you Know this she will take care of you
And give you Happiness, Peace, and Deathlessness.
This Mother we do not recognise and this gets us into trouble.
This Unknown is your Nature, return to That
Because the known will give no lasting Peace,
No lasting Love.
Bliss is Eternal,
even though it appears to arise when the mind dies.
Bliss is not an experience, It is your Nature.
This is the Heart
This Gift is always calling to everyone,
"You are seated in the Heart of all Beings."
This is the Truth: Your face shines.
Nothing ever happened or ever will.
You have always been perfect Love and Peace.
What changes is not real and what is Real can not change.
You are that Secret, that Purity beyond change and description.
Love to You, by You, in You.
I am the Ocean and all forms seen are my waves dancing on me.
In Grace-Peace-Beauty-Love
Om Tat Sat
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:34:28 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
Subject: Re: kundalini conception is the problem
Message-ID: <8lcaDTAE5RWzEwxpATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <199704191740.KAA03345ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>, M
<chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> writes
>Tom,
>
>I am loving your posts today. The one on letting go gently was a softly lit
>mirror for me, and it was very comforting to peer into it again. Thank you.
>
>Could you explain the following a bit more please. I think you are a step
>before me on this path and I'd like to hear what you have to say about that
>part of the journey. Others probably would too. Here's the part I'd like
>to see
>expanded upon:
>
>>i had a similar problem in that i had tons of material, and nothing to
>>do with it...in the end i've done/am doing most of the things listed
>>above...i found that i had to start "living" with whatever i said or
>>wrote for it to feel right.....
>
>TIA
>
>M
>
>Yep, no problem......well. obviously there's the classic point of
living from a true centre so the foundation of one's life becomes built
on rock and an expression of shakti rather than other people's
conditioning....i think of the unbreakable entwined knot of Tibetan
Buddhism...holistic consciousness at its very deepest.....
then there's the shedding of skins as shakti expands and contracts and
transmutes....i found basically i had to just stop, knock everything
down, clean the site up and start all over again, many many times as i
just had not gone deep enough into integrating the conscious with the
subconscious and the transcendental...
and even then, once integrated there was all kinds of karma to clean up
from the past lives built on weak foundations....so there was an
important role for intuitively knowing when to start and stop with
various activities and ways of being
i guess you could sum this up as "LIVE SHAKTI, EAT SHAKTI, BREATHE
SHAKTI, SLEEP SHAKTI", no way can one compartmentalise the experience,
it's everything or nothing.......
and once the energy was right and the body and mind right too, i could
use all the things i had uprooted and disgarded to refine the energy and
direct it and use it in skillful ways..."things come back to you tenfold
with shakti" could be a good line to remember
one of them being able, over several years to gradually understand what
had been going on all these years....
and then simply pick up my disgarded intellectual and media skills and
start to use them to refine this raw material.....
as i knew that there was a crying need for something like this....
which explains what i'm doing on the list, apart from having fun with
some great yogis and seekers, that is
found the concept of planting buddha seeds deep within very useful in
faithful belief that things would come round karmically sooner or later
if i kept on doing the right things as they came to mind....
a kind of cosmic faith that everything would eventually reach critical
mass and light would begin to dawn
like a little prayer in the heart...a silent mantra in the head or heart
or feet or wherever it felt right....thanks to the guru...saying the
names of God silently on the tube....a silent and gentle commitment to
the spiritual goal, especially when people were challenging my
priorities in life...
just dipping into books could be useful too, an entry in a notebook or
diary.....it all adds up with shakti.....
and simply being a tiny bit ruthless at times in terms of not scattering
energy, wasting words or initiating chains of events that i knew i would
regret....
a little stretch or mindful breath now and then just to centre the
energy....rather than unbalancing things by trying to impose fixed
patterns or activities on her
have to be careful with this though, as too many seeds and the field can
get overgrown very rapidly and all kinds of energy can stand coming up
from the unconscious and overwhelm somewhat !
classic kundalini dualistic dilemma as to how to relax yet remain tense
enough to function, be orderly yet remain anarchically creative, follow
the teachings yet be intuitive to shakti's needs, control yet let it
flow, kind but also insightful and speaker of spiritual truths which
some people do not welcome necessarily, generous yet not scattered,
ethical but not woodenly following rules for their own sake, having fun
but clearly set on mystical path that takes one away from even the
closest of friends at times etc etc etc
so it's a tightrope that gets harder and harder as get closer to the
goal...although in other ways it gets easier too as one has built up
understanding and faith and a sense of no return by taking lots of small
steps over time....
all the great images of the spiritual journey are there for a reason, no
matter how misused and abused they may have become over the years, and
they really do make sense when shakti gets an appetite to evolve one's
being.....but she don't like anything too formal or fixed so stay fluid,
but remember the need for foundations, initially at least, until even
foundations and houses and spiral paths do not help much and can become
a hindrance or even a liability....can often be disgarded as existential
inner pressure or sense of blockage or dilemma builds up...worht
remebering the long night of the soul of the mystics...the darkest hour
is just before dawn (or that's what they say although i never noticed it
any darker before dawn)
and gradually one begins to find ways of using one's experience and
energy in subtle ways for helping others....
tese ar generally effortless or a natural outcome of one's best aspects
rather than some kind of willful mission although good intentions can
help too....stay in the centre....
and the need for introspection and nurturing the inner process begins
to share more and more with the needs of others although these needs may
not necessarily coincide with other fixed ideas of what people need so
it's probably best to listen and wait at times than volunteer to help
all the time....although with people who have spiritual experiences
things can be very different as they tend to be much more receptive to
positive approaches...
and as the Tibetans say "The greatest gift is a spiritual friend in the
form of an ordinary human being" (or words to that effect) and i guess
if we yogis have a vocation it's to reach down when appropriate and pull
fellow climbers up the cruel rockface of samsara to where the air is
clearer and the view is great and it's hard to remember what all the
fuss and gnashing of teeth was about....
until one opens up and understands what life really means for so many,
as shakti tends to cut away one's illusions sooner or later....and life
down in ego land is not exactly a bundle of laughs....
and i guess that's when the journey begins in earnest, since the inner
alchemy is almost complete in terms of benefiting oneself...
and it may pay to be a little more methodical and utilitarian in making
the most of one's spiritual resources for others given there are some
desperate people out there and a big world...even if the heart remains
free....
so one just uses whatever's available and off we go again...only this
time we do it right and hopefully, some people will be eternally
grateful to you and shakti for your help which will be unusually
profound in turning people's lives around even with the smallest
gestures........
Zen says all this in a sentence - climb the mountain, drop one's
rucksack (conditioning), admire the view, pick up the rucksack and
return down the mountain....resuming normal service...or words to that
effect
it is possible that no one will ever know what one has experienced
unless one says something as people are not always very observant of
spiritual changes...especially when shakti's involved and one might be
climbing the mountain in the most mundane settings...
even an office or public transport or apparently lowkey relationship....
and here endeth the lesson according to Yogi Tom....
who instead of climbing the mountain decided to explore the bottomless
chasm within, which is not recommended to the fainthearted and those
who value their sanity.....but can be interesting nevertheless.....if
you enjoy freefall without a parachute into vats of boiling oil.....
until, just in time he noticed there was a free upwards elevator back to
the Light with the name Tantric guru on it, and the power supply was
Divine Grace and mystical teachings.....
hope this helps empower one's journey a little,
Freefall "Going up" Tom xxxxxx
--
Tom Aston
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