1997/04/09  14:33  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #153 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 153
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Why? 
  Re: Still confused - was Re: Ecstasy and Pleasure 
  Re: my nightmare 
  K books 
  Cult constipation 
  Re: Cobra Breath 
  Archives: K computer 
  Re: Cobra Breath 
  Re: New address 
  Re: Cobra Breath 
  A question 
  Solar Flare heads Toward Earth. 
  Re: Kundalini shakti-pat 
  Re: Archives: K computer 
  Re: Cobra Breath 
  Re: my nightmare 
  Re: my nightmare 
  Re: Archives: K computer 
  Re: Cobra Breath 
  Re: my nightmare 
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:52:54 -0400 (EDT) 
From: TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Why? 
Message-ID: <970408215134_739855415ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
 
TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
 
That is the question.
 
If you look beyond 
you get a form of obsession. 
If you look back 
at what could have been 
or what was .... 
it's a form of depression.
 
So what could be, 
or what was, 
isn't what is.
 
So what is? 
If it's not the past, 
and it's not the future, 
then what is it?
 
It is being here NOW, 
in the present, 
in the moment. 
Knowing that whatever will be 
will be.
 
And if we don't fret about the past, 
and we don't worry about the future, 
then the only thing left 
is the NOW.
 
And without frets or worries, 
without pasts or futures, 
without obsessions or depressions, 
what do you have?
 
You have BEING. 
You have KNOWING.
 
Knowing that whatever the past was, 
has already happened. 
Knowing that whatever the future may bring, 
hasn't yet happened.
 
And knowing, as we live in the present, 
in this moment in time, 
that only the best can come 
if you only BE.
 
To be..... That is the Answer.
 
     -tg langston 
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 22:09:23 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>, 
 Peggy Freeman <pfreemanATnospamstanford.edu> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Still confused - was Re: Ecstasy and Pleasure 
Message-Id: <199704090509.WAA10032ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 12:34 PM 4/7/97 -0700, Ken McFarland wrote: 
>At 10:52 AM 4/7/97 -0800, Peggy Freeman wrote: 
> 
>>       To me, all things flow through the body. I 
>>know I am specifically interested in feeling ecstacy, love, joy, etc. IN MY 
>>BODY. So, I am still confused by the definition of "pleasure."  To me, 
>>something that is pleasurable is something that "feels good."  Don't 
>>ecstacy, joy, love, etc by definition, feel good? 
>> 
>>gee, I am seeking bliss and spiritual joy, and frankly, I was a little 
>>confused on what the "freedom" was he was talking about. Freedom to see 
>>that all thoughts are attachments? Okay, then what? 
> 
>I echo Peggy's question.  
>Does enlightenment feel good?  
>What is freedom? Freedom from what? 
>Ken
 
Someone on this list once said with regard to kundalini, "It is not always 
pleasant, but it is profound."  That still sums it up for me...
 
M 
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 22:36:57 -0700 
From: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
Subject: Re: my nightmare 
Message-ID: <334B2AF9.1CA8ATnospampacific.net> 
 
Dear Nothing Is,
 
>         I had a bad dream the other day and I actually remembered it, a 
> rare thing for me.  In this dream I had taken some kind of entheogen and 
> I forgot that I did.  Next thing I know, I was talking to my friend and 
> this horrible state of consciousness took me over.  It was the worst 
> feeling I had *EVER* felt.  I am comfortable with Buddhist idea/state of 
> a nuetral nothingness, through experience.  However, this was a polarized  
> darkness that made me go off the edge of my sanity.  
 
The Void in its terrifying aspect.  I've never experienced this (consciously) 
but have heard of it a number of times in a number of different contexts.  It 
is always described as the ultimate terror.
 
In an intuitive sense, I recognize it as a little known aspect of time that 
can simply cancel a reality out of existence.  Not destroy it...uncreate it.
 
P.K. Dick in his collected writings talks about what this can do even  
through he doesn't talk about it directly.  He talks about a how timeline 
in which Nazi Germany won WWII and conquered the world was canceled out 
of existence to create the existence we know today....canceled out by (in 
my mind) the very thing you witnessed.
 
> Then another friend 
> of mine who has actually had some of experience of this in real life came 
> along and started hugging me, and the pain went away.  I know that any 
> true interpretation of my dream should be done on my own...but does 
> anyone have any ideas?  Is this some kind of warning to stay away from 
> entheogens in the future?
 
A warning?  Most definitely, but not about the details such as entheogens, 
so much as a direct showing of the price of true transformation.  Still, 
it can be a tremendous gift if we can come to a place that appreciates it.
 
I know a K active woman who lost almost all memories of her past as a  
result of K bringing her (I believe) into touching this (and by just a 
tiny bit at that).  She still lives a human life....but knows a degree  
of freedom and deliberateness of intent that is almost beyond belief.
 
ALSO:  Your name "Nothing Is" is very appropriate for this experience. 
It seems like your intent is to face this.  Surrender to it.... 
My heart goes out to you..... 
--  
In the Ecstatic Web of Life -- Omega 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:51:15 -0500 (CDT) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: K books 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970409014054.9603A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
 I'm looking for a good book on kundalini *exercises*, with as 
little "theory" as possible, I've read enough of that...  I would like to 
find something maybe a little more in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition.  I 
cant find crap on the yoga Tibetans do exactly even though I have 
recieved the "empowerment of Hiyagriva" by Dhongthog Riponche, which I 
dont even really know the details of.  I *dont* want any syncretized new 
age/"left hand tantric" stuff.  I have flirted with some kundalini stuff, 
but I realized it was kind of advanced so I decided to covers some more 
basic stuff like zazen(basic, but kind of hard!) and hatha yoga first.
 
thanks, 
nothing is 
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:20:40 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: Cult constipation 
Message-ID: <334BC1D8.380BATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Cultish behaviour is part of the tendency to systemise the "perception 
without formal expression". Genuine spirituality is independent of 
external verification or set means of transmission.  
 One simple test is irritability and humour. Any group or individual 
that is easily annoyed, outraged or otherwise clearly not at peace can 
hardly be in a position to promote this. 
 The incapacity to find oneself and ones quest humorous does not suggest 
seriousness but constipation. Therefore it is not important what you do 
but how and in whose company.  
 Genuine spirituality comes without a message to create a perception 
independent of the form. When people ask why the message is different 
the kindest thing is to send them to the nearest Guru circus where the 
performance is safe, same and very often useless . . .  
 Only when people tire of this pretend spirituality can they approach 
the innate lessons of life. Only when they open to the possibility that 
they must genuinely become the nature of the goal do they begin to see 
the enormity of the task.
 
A R C  Spiritual Renewal Course 
No students accepted on this course without reason 
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/arcourse.html 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:27:51 +0300 (EET DST) 
From: Jari Vanha-Eskola <vanhaeskATnospamcc.helsinki.fi> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (Kundalini list) 
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath 
Message-Id: <199704091127.OAA25988ATnospamkruuna.Helsinki.FI> 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
> The safest way to approach kundalini if you have the devotion and the  
> intellectual yearning.. is through a guru, that can give you shaktipat. 
 
The easiest, the safest... *sigh*
 
It's just as well if you happen to live in America. But what hope is 
there for those of us who happen to reside elsewhere? Do gurus travel 
abroad? Even if they did, I doubt they'd visit Finland. 
 
So I'm trying to awaken K on my own through meditation...  don't know 
anybody who could give me Shaktipat. But if you do have ideas on how to 
receive Shaktipat without traveling to the US, I'd gladly hear them!
 
  Walk with Love,		Jari  
--  
Jari Vanha-Eskola         !  Internet:  Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamhelsinki.fi 
University of Helsinki	  !  WWW: 	http://www.helsinki.fi/~vanhaesk/ 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:08:38 +0300 (EET DST) 
From: Jari Vanha-Eskola <vanhaeskATnospamcc.helsinki.fi> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (Kundalini list) 
Subject: Archives: K computer 
Message-Id: <199704091308.QAA23250ATnospamkruuna.Helsinki.FI> 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
>   However, please humor the crazy Witch List Mystress and spend a few 
> moments giving love and appreciation to the lovely and lonely Smartlist 
> program on the execpc. computer who works so diligenty to keep us all 
> connected to one another, day in and day out processing emails that sizzle 
> it's poor circutry blue fire zapping emotions thru the net....and give it 
> protection from stray bolts of K. 
 
I used to think that K / healing energy won't affect electronics. 
However, I proved myself wrong.
 
I've had a lot of trouble with VCRs. Usually they start behaving 
strangly but when I take them to be repaired nobody can ever find 
anything wrong with them. But as soon as I get them back, the erratic 
behaviour resumes. Very annoying...
 
Last June I got fed up with my old VCR and bought a new one. It lasted 4 
months before starting to act up. The problems got more serious as the 
time went by and finally I had to do something about it.
 
But instead of taking it to be repaired I decided to try and heal it 
myself. I have never tried healing electronics (nor people for that 
matter) before, but I instinctively knew what to do: I imagined my hands 
around the VCR and send energy to it. After a while I felt a burst 
starting from my spine and flowing through my hands. And then the 
healing was over. To protect the machine from further harm, I imagined a 
blue bubble enveloping it and shielding it from any harmful energies 
that I might be sending it's way.
 
>From that moment on, my VCR has worked without any problems at all!
 
At first I couldn't believe what had happened, I was waiting for the 
disaster to strike, but now I've accepted it (it's been 3 months). Since 
then I've tried the same technique on people, too... and it seems to be 
working (on my part, that is... I do distant healing and never inquire 
whether my efforts have been succesfull... I won't even tell people that 
I've sent them healing energy).
 
So yes, I do believe the K computer could benefit from good energy!
 
  May the Force be with You!		Jari 
--  
Jari Vanha-Eskola         !  Internet:  Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamhelsinki.fi 
University of Helsinki	  !  WWW: 	http://www.helsinki.fi/~vanhaesk/ 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:41:04 -0500 (CDT) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamHelsinki.FI 
cc: Kundalini list <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970409084039.9857A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
I cant find anyone in the US that does shaktipat!!
 
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Jari Vanha-Eskola wrote:
 
> > The safest way to approach kundalini if you have the devotion and the  
> > intellectual yearning.. is through a guru, that can give you shaktipat.  
>  
> The easiest, the safest... *sigh* 
>  
> It's just as well if you happen to live in America. But what hope is 
> there for those of us who happen to reside elsewhere? Do gurus travel 
> abroad? Even if they did, I doubt they'd visit Finland.  
>  
> So I'm trying to awaken K on my own through meditation...  don't know 
> anybody who could give me Shaktipat. But if you do have ideas on how to 
> receive Shaktipat without traveling to the US, I'd gladly hear them! 
>  
> 		Walk with Love,		Jari  
> --  
> Jari Vanha-Eskola         !  Internet:  Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamhelsinki.fi 
> University of Helsinki	  !  WWW: 	http://www.helsinki.fi/~vanhaesk/ 
>  
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:15:09 -0400 (EDT) 
From: SSpoelderATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: New address 
Message-ID: <970409101503_956189250ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
 
Please, please, please ! No more of those Kundalini letters to me!!!! 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:44:54 +0100 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath 
Message-Id: <14445403902753ATnospampeconic.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
> 
>I cant find anyone in the US that does shaktipat!! 
> 
>On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Jari Vanha-Eskola wrote: 
> 
>> > The safest way to approach kundalini if you have the devotion and the  
>> > intellectual yearning.. is through a guru, that can give you shaktipat.  
>> 
 
>> So I'm trying to awaken K on my own through meditation...  don't know 
>> anybody who could give me Shaktipat. But if you do have ideas on how to 
>> receive Shaktipat without traveling to the US, I'd gladly hear them! 
>>  
>> 		Walk with Love,		Jari 
 
JARI,
 
I haven't gottem much shaktipat but the next best thing is yourself during 
your most happy day on earth if you can refreshen that and dwell on it.
 
Second best to that is to go to a movie premiere opening of your favorite 
star and try to feel the mob of hysteria and try to touch that Star and 
give your love greeting.  I have met many stars and they have tons of 
charisma to get where they are.  John Lennon (Beatle) saw me in 1970's 
in Manhattan and saw my camera and begged me to take his picture, then 
he gave me his address. There was no one else around except for impatient 
wife Yoko with baby in a pouch. The picture never came out so I mailed him 
a drawing I made in memory of him that day.  Do you think I recovered 
from this encounter?  
 
For a real shaktipat I would not give up but try using search engine and 
look up SANT  or try SANT BANI.  When someone gave me his book, 
I got ripples all over my body without intending.  He travels and has some 
cult with him.  My friend is his graphic designer and is fanatically dedicated 
to his living master.  These guys wear turbans and stuff.  THen there is 
this mother Mary who is in recluse in upstate New York.  I asked if she 
gives Shaktipat but I gathered she is hiding and encouraging her disciples 
to carry her load.  Much of the Shaktipat sources seem to come from  
INDIA. The look in those eyes of the impoverished people there show 
bliss. They must be doing something right.  
 
Your attention on the subject will no doubt pull in what you desire down 
the road.  Your search should be ceaseless til you receive it.  It has to  
succeed in pentrating enough through anything you carry as well.  It will 
get throught o you I hope, and to me I hope.  
 
Pardon my unorthodox answers, I speak from very little experience but  
it wouldn't hurt to toss it around.  It might be in more people than you realise 
and you expected it to be exotic thus creating a self sabotaging filter. 
Continue being OPEN and OPEN MINDED and RECEPTIVE (don't 
forget GIVING)
 
Charles 
Artist of the Hamptons 
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:31:55 -0700 
From: MAX PRESCOTT <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: A question 
Message-ID: <334BC47B.3C75ATnospamwin.bright.net> 
 
I have a question I have meaning to ask for a long time.  What is  
shaktipat?  I am not familiar with a lot of the terms used.  Is this  
something that may have already happened to me during my spontaneous  
Kundalini rising?  Love and Light, Colleen  sumacATnospamwin.bright.net 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:35:58 -0400 (EDT) 
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke) 
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net 
Subject: Solar Flare heads Toward Earth. 
Message-Id: <v01530500af712e7dad5bATnospam[209.42.129.120]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
This was on CNN today. They expect it to arrive at 8 pm tonight est. Is 
this what we've been waiting for? Could be spectacular lights int he sky. 
Keep your eyes open. - Jon 
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Solar flare heading toward Earth
 
April 8, 1997                        [orange sun] 
Web posted at: 11:09 p.m. EDT (0309 
GMT)
 
(CNN) -- The sun has produced a storm the likes of 
which scientists have not seen before, according 
to a NASA researcher.
 
The large flare of magnetic energy is expected to 
hit Earth's upper atmosphere Wednesday afternoon, 
according to Art Poland, senior scientist with the 
Solar and Heliosphere Observatory (SOHO) at the 
Goddard Space Center in Maryland.
 
SOHO is a relatively new NASA satellite that is 
pointed at the sun.
 
The solar flare was formed Monday when the sun 
generated a giant shock wave of electrified gases 
called a coronal mass ejection. SOHO photographs 
show "a flare going off; you see a shock wave 
leaving (the sun). Basically, it's a tsunami going 
across the surface of the sun," Poland said in an 
interview with CNN.
 
Solar events like this occur every day.    [blue] 
Approximately one in 10 heads toward 
Earth. But this solar flare is about as large as 
one that destroyed a broadcast satellite in 
January.
 
There have been 43 cases of satellite damage as a 
result of solar flares, according to 
astrophysicist George Lake, a NASA project 
scientist. The flares inflict damage by sending a 
powerful current through the satellites, creating 
"miniature power plants," according to Lake. (30 
sec. / 704K AIFF or WAV sound)[icon]
 
Scientists say they don't know exactly what kind 
of problems this solar event could cause and what 
is in its path. Solar-monitoring satellites will 
provide only one hour's notice of the wave's 
arrival. Similar events have triggered power 
outages and interfered with spacecraft operations.
 
"If the magnetic orientation is opposite    [red] 
to the Earth's magnetic field and all the 
conditions are right -- what that means I don't 
know, that's what we're really trying to learn -- 
it could really interfere with the Earth's 
magnetic field and then have an impact on us," 
Poland said.
 
The solar flare will pose no threat to life on 
Earth, he said.
 
But "it is the kind of thing that might create 
some spectacular viewing in the heavens," said 
Lake. The aurora borealis, or Northern Lights, 
might appear brighter.
 
This event apparently is a sign of things to come. 
Scientists say solar activity will increase and 
peak in the next four to five years.
 
Correspondent Dick Wilson contributed to this 
report.
 
 
 
 ************************ 
>> Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. << 
Jon Locke 
The Philosopher's Stone 
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/ 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:55:37 +0100 
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini shakti-pat 
Message-Id: <16553790802966ATnospampeconic.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Two shakti-Pat requests today are 2 too much! Smile, I just have to reprint  
a dazzling plea to once again bring up the energy of the idea of shakti-Pat 
once again to the arena of this Kundalini-list, leery that... I AM......
 
shakti-Pat is Baaacckk..... 
getting back on Traaaccckk..... 
did we notice there's a Laacckkk.... 
of kundalini Traappsss....... 
why don't we make a Maappp..... 
of the near future Laaappsss..... 
  on the serpent Ttraacckkk.....
 
and Gurus should be Trappeddd.... 
into giving Shakti-Pat!!!
 
Victoria 
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Subject: Re: Kundalini shakti-pat 
>  A good way to get the on-line energy 
>flowing even more than it is on the mailing list would be to set up an irc 
>channel for the K listers. (Suggested before, but perhaps not implemented) 
>DALnet is an excellent set of servers because the channel can be easily 
>registered and maintained.  To find out more about DALnet and* IRC in 
>general, go to http://www.dal.net 
*!!!!!* 
>You can also download software to get on irc from that site.     !!!!!!! 
>Some good DALnet servers are: 
!!!!!!!!!! 
>>outland.mn.us.dal.net> ohare.il.us.dal.net 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                     >raptor.ab.ca.dal.net 
>farside.tx.us.dal.net        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
>hades.se.DAL.net                              !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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>>  Dear all,  
>> I want to tell you all, Shy Lurkers and to the most Sweetly Dominent, 
>>  that you are 
>> so wonderful!  Now, having said that, how about we give continuiously, 
>> and, of course, with God/Goddess Wisdom and Prayers, Shakti-Pat of our 
>> Specialty, 
>> to all Ks willing in the Spirit to receive it. I have sensed some K'ers 
already 
>> doing this, so why not all of us?  The Reason I bring this up 
>> is we K'ers are like a starter battery in a car, and we will Eminate the 
>>  K energy's awakenening, with the Holy Spirit, 
>> ( which is all our  Human natural birthright) 
>> and Quicken with the Others out in the world, 
>>  all those souls who want and need " Spiritual Gas," 
>>  to make those Wonderful Inventions and Actions which 
>> are so needed by our beautiful and Holy Planet. Let us start with us. 
>> How about it all, let's: 
>>  
>> Gather together in the Spirit! Now!All of us.... 
>>  
>> Sincerely, 
>>  
>> Victoria  
>>  
>>  
> 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
> Cameron Dye                      | Our basic essence, the foundation of  
> purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com              | life and consciousness, is *energy* 
> A really great home page:        | Quiet down, be still and feel that 
> http://www.goodnet.com/~purenrg  | energy within yourself. - me 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 13:23:26 -0400 (EDT) 
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com 
To: Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamhelsinki.fi, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Archives: K computer 
Message-ID: <970409132323_1353924622ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
 
Dear Jari,
 
I'm very interested in your healing energy.  In the past have seen people  
healed and have felt my own energy manifest itself in various situations.  
I must admit my general ignorance about what I do know in this area and  
this is part of the reason for my inquiry.  What I want to know is how to  
better use the enery i feel or even how to use it period...as most of the  
time it seems to have a mind of its own.  The main area that i can feel  
energy from (and it feels like a constant flow) is in the palm of my left  
hand.  I do not know what this means and would love input from anyone out  
there.
 
The final peace completes the whole 
-doug 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 13:23:30 -0400 (EDT) 
From: FK3000ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath 
Message-ID: <970409132328_-66912035ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
 
Try Gurumayi. 
 You can find more info at: 
http://vs3.channel1.com/users/shakti/1997/thetour2.html 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 13:33:50 -0400 (EDT) 
From: FK3000ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: my nightmare 
Message-ID: <970409133154_-1502910875ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
 
What are entheogens?
 
fanny 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:39:53 -0500 (CDT) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: FK3000ATnospamaol.com 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: my nightmare 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970409123833.10148A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 FK3000ATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
> What are entheogens? 
>  
> fanny 
> 
  
Entheogen is kind of the P.C. word for a "hallucinogenic" drug.
 
bye, nothin' is 
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 97 12:07:57 PDT 
From: "Claudia McNeely" <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net> 
To: "kundalini l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Archives: K computer 
Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.0068697465646f763030303930303039ATnospamMAPI.to.RFC822> 
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>  
> Dear Jari, 
>  
>  
> I'm very interested in your healing energy.  In the past have seen people  
> healed and have felt my own energy manifest itself in various situations.  
> I must admit my general ignorance about what I do know in this area and  
> this is part of the reason for my inquiry.  What I want to know is how to  
> better use the enery i feel or even how to use it period...as most of the  
> time it seems to have a mind of its own.  The main area that i can feel  
> energy from (and it feels like a constant flow) is in the palm of my left  
> hand.  I do not know what this means and would love input from anyone out  
> there. 
>  
> The final peace completes the whole 
> -doug 
> 
 
In most cases the left hand is the hand that receives energy and the energy 
is sent out by the right hand.  There are a lot of good books on healing 
such as by Barbara Brennan, Choa Kok Sui, and many others.  Basically, you 
just open yourself as a channel for divine energy down from the heavens and 
up from the earth.  Let it meet in your heart and send it out through your 
hands.  Of course, this is only the basics.
 
Claudia 
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:19:56 +0100 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
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>Try Gurumayi. 
> You can find more info at: 
>http://vs3.channel1.com/users/shakti/1997/thetour2.html 
> 
> 
HEY!  Yes that was the Mother Mary I was referring to for Jari, she lives 
upstate NY but is reclusive as I was told by my counselor who got Shaktipat 
from her.  Unfortunately she is not giving any more for understandable reasons 
(everybody wants to TOUCH her!  That is enough to frighten anyone. 
Charles Wildbank 
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:39:18 +0100 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: my nightmare 
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>What are entheogens? 
> 
>fanny 
> 
Fanny,
 
(I had the same question so I looked up search and voila!  It's an haluciogenic 
used by the native Americans in shamanism to induce visions.  Please 
check it out as the words are mine.  USE your search engines like they 
are Akashic Light Library!!!It's the closest correspondent.  As in earth, so 
it is in heavens:  the cosmic law of correspondnces mentioned by Swedenborg 
in 17th century.  Look him up too on the search engine. As for drugs, it 
is down Timothy Leary's alley, not mine!
 
Charles
 
 
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