1997/03/11  23:07  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #92 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 92
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Backward in time negative-energy. 
  resource 
  K. List Archives!!! 
  Re: my extraordinary experience 
  Re: Pychosynthesis & Kundalini 
  Re: My awakening 
  Re: resource 
  Re: My awakening/or something. 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: My awakening 
  Re: Blood sugar......... 
  Re: 100th monkey 
  Re:  Shared Transformation 
  Re: Need Help Please! 
  100 Monkeys + Memes 
  Re: ADMIN: Unsubscribing and Digest 
  Re: Blood Sugar/Voices 
  Re: My awakening 
  K. List Archives!!! 
  K. List Archives!!! 
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:04:23 -0800 
From: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Backward in time negative-energy. 
Message-ID: <3324E7D7.4D00ATnospampacific.net> 
 
Hi Folks,
 
> Could you clarify want you mean by "Backward in time, negative-energy." 
> I'm curious about your definition?
 
Been meaning to answer the question on this that came up, but doing 
so can not be done without getting into some serious physics.
 
I can say one thing, that what in mystical terms is called sky-energy 
is actually this backward in time negative energy.  It truly does  
come from the sky (largely), but it also comes at us from the future.
 
The "backwards" and "negative" parts form a double negative but the 
way it interacts with us is very very very counter-intuituive (unless 
one has had some overwhelming mystical experience).  
 
The only other way to really get a handle on it is to go over the most 
arcane mathematics of relativistic quantum mechanics and start taking 
seriously all the mathematical symmetries that are involved.
 
I'll reduce as best I can to plain English, but I expect it I won't 
be able to get to it for close to a week.  Till then... 
--  
In the Ecstatic Theatre of Life -- Omega 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:39:36 -0500 (EST) 
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: resource 
Message-ID: <970311013935_-1506249180ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
 
I found a website others might be interested in.  Under Keyword: "kundalini", 
find "Shared Transformation".  The transformation is K.  It's put out by 
ckress and el collie.  There's a resource center and a pretty good booklist, 
regardless of what you think of the rest of the site. Have fun.
 
Kathy 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:41:30 -0800 (PST) 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: K. List Archives!!! 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960310025244.3cb7ee02ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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  Also regarding archives: I will repost jewels once a week, but if  
you wish to surf the archives on your own, here's the URL. 
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Blessings, List Mystress.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
 *******************  
  "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy.....let's go exploring" 
    Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
 
    Calvin and Hobbes have ascended...Blessed Be! 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:17:48 -0800 (PST) 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: my extraordinary experience 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960310032902.18ef7e6eATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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  I have felt the power of that line of the song, it is one I enjoy to sing 
along with, and the joy love faith creative energy of the lyric in the 
Artists voice expressing flows through electric up my spine. 
  Love unconditional. 
 Blessings, Angelique.
 
At 10:20 10/03/97 -0800, you wrote:
 
>After the tape finished, laid down on the couch, and as I drifted  
>off into sleep, for some reason the Simon and Garfunkel song 
>'Mrs Robinson' started running through my mind, which I havent 
>heard in years, and just as the lyric hit the phrase  
>'Jesus loves you more than you can know' 
>my whole body was filled with energy, all of a sudden, exactly on 
>the word 'Jesus' coming into my mind. 
<snip>> 
>oh well, nice to feel loved once in a while, 
>as the Gospel song says: 
> 
>"He doesnt come often, 
> But He stops by 
> Every now and then." 
> 
>cheers 
> 
>
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
 *******************  
  "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy.....let's go exploring" 
    Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
 
    Calvin and Hobbes have ascended...Blessed Be! 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:38:00 +1100 (EST) 
From: Nathan Thambu Paramanathan <anparATnospammelbpc.org.au> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Pychosynthesis & Kundalini 
Message-Id: <199703111138.WAA00011ATnospamemu.melbpc.org.au> 
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At 11:22 PM 3/10/97 GMT, Michael Lea wrote:....... 
Psychosynthesis is an approach to human development fostered by Roberto 
Assagioli. Roberto describes the transpersonal dimension (spiritual crisis) 
awakening of the soul in great detail in one of his chapters.Is Roberto 
really describing the psychological effects of kundalini?
 
Hi All, 
Michael Lea  wondered whether  Roberto Assagioli was referring to Kundalini 
experience. Somebody else may be able to answer this. I wish to point out 
that Assagioli was more concerned with "Self Realization". He explains this 
as having two elements- one the "self-actualisation" (psychological growth 
and maturation -Maslow) and the other "realization of the Self"- the 
experience and awareness of the synthesizing spiritual Center. He had warned 
that "one can become so fascinated by the wonders of the superconscious 
realm, so absorbed in it ... to lose or paralyze the urge to reach the 
summit of Self-realization." 
For Assagioli , the search was firstly, for the Realization of one's true 
Self( or the discovery or creation of a unifying center) and secondly 
Psychosynthesis, which is the formation or reconstruction of the personality 
around the new center. 
In this regard, Assagioli referred to Hatha Yoga and Jung's "process of 
individuation".
 
Mindfully, 
Nathan 
email: anparATnospammelbpc.org.au 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:47:03 -0800 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: tinaob <tinaobATnospamndirect.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: My awakening 
Message-ID: <33259A97.61B9ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Dear Tina,
 
> At this time then, I had been awake for over 30 
>  hours. About halfway through the book Mr Peck relates an anecdote of a dinner 
>  companion asking him to explain his latest book in a sentence, he failed - but then 
> he went on to relate how Jesus encapsulated the Christian message in a couple of 
>  sentences. " Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart with all thy soul and with 
>  all thy might. And love thy neighbour as thyself. " 
>  
> Although these words were familiar, the depth of their meaning hit me then for 
> the first time. It was as though something clicked in my brain. It was like finding 
> the key to everything and opening the door. At that point I felt unbounded love 
> for everyone and every living thing - just an immensity of love, so that it was almost > unbearable - I totally abandoned myself to that feeling. What happened next is > difficult to describe because words become inadequate. Here goes:
 
<snip - now tis adequate>
 
Sounds a genuine experience 
In a sense it is a taster 
of a possibility 
through relaxation 
and intensity (being awake) 
you achieved a wholistic jump 
The vehicle that is your self 
can be prepared for more of the same 
this is the path 
where else is there to go? 
 
 
> Now the Nots 
> I didn't see any people shaped apparitions 
> No-one spoke to me - I understood everything intuitively 
> No tunnel - as in some Near Death Experiencess 
> No evil or fear 
> I didn't leave my body and look down on it I have no recollection of my body at all  - > BUT, it was like my consciousness was everywhere at the same time.
 
Some people do 
all these experiences are manifestations of the self 
and innate psychic ability 
You will find the ego engages in psychic activity 
and all kinds of games 
rather than facing absorption
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:35:48 -0500 
From: doug houston <loraxATnospamworldpath.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: resource 
Message-ID: <3325B414.4521ATnospamworldpath.net> 
 
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  
> I found a website others might be interested in.  Under Keyword: "kundalini", 
> find "Shared Transformation".  The transformation is K.  It's put out by 
> ckress and el collie.  There's a resource center and a pretty good booklist, 
> regardless of what you think of the rest of the site. Have fun. 
>  
> Kathy 
This might save some time if this is the correct link.
 
http://users.aol.com:80/ckress/st.html
 
Doug 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:19:59 -0500 (EST) 
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, tinaobATnospamndirect.co.uk 
Subject: Re: My awakening/or something. 
Message-ID: <970311151958_-1405696375ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
 
For years my experience has been that I experience an "electricity" primarily 
in the left foot that shoots up.Now  it appears in the hands,shoots around 
sometimes into the head neck and heart.Sometimes a light in the head.Shakeing 
goes with it and I don't want to wake my wife or piss her off so I just lie 
there like for an hour until it goes away.Last night I put my hand over my 
third eye while It was happening and got a big ugly blast of nausea und a 
slight pain in my head ,.so I stopped that fast and decided to do  a big 
clean up of my colon and digestive tract which I think is associated with the 
nausea.Anyboby out there with a comment or similar experience? 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:34:27 -1000 (HST) 
From: Dee Turman <ETurman384ATnospamaol.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199703112134.LAA17890ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
Does anyone have any information about the Summer Solstice, going on in New Mexico in June. Does it cost anything? 
Also, I am looking for a teacher in the Memphis , TN area, if you are the one, or know the one, please contact me.I have not had a kundalini experience, but would like to start opening my chakras, if anyone has any advice I would LOVE it. Everyone have a BEAUTIFUL day with PEACE and LOVE.
 
       
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:43:54 -0500 
From: Aron Price <aronATnospamone.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: My awakening 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970311214354.006c1dc0ATnospammail.one.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
 I can relate well to the feelings you describe.  I think the 
headaches may be related to a common problem in western society.  For a long 
time now we have operated with a notion of rules.  These rules tend to range 
from the smallest pet peeve to what the U.N. calls the new world order. 
These rules are self limits that we impose on the energy that is us.  When 
kundalini comes into the picture, these limits becomes energy blockages. 
This can became painful because the blocked area is tense from the control 
imposed.  The best way I have found to deal with it is to meditate on pure 
nothingness for a while.  Clear your mind; clear your chakras. 
 love 
 Aron 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:54:23 -0800 (PST) 
From: " Joseph  Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Cc: sumacATnospamwin.bright.net 
Subject: Re: Blood sugar......... 
Message-Id: <199703112154.NAA06276ATnospamf6.hotmail.com> 
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Colleen,
 
A few comments on your post, based on experiences much like yours:
 
>Hi,  I have a question regarding the blood sugar or brain sugar being  
>used up from Kundalini.  For the last week I have been extremely  
>lightheaded and dizzy and unable to function.  This has also been  
>going on for the last 7 months since a spontaneous kundalini  
>awakening. When I get like this I have to eat fast so I don't faint.  
>Yesturday I was wondering if it was due to blood sugar going down  
>because I seem to feel like people who describe diabetes.  
 
I don't think blood sugar problems are what you're experiencing. I used to get 
that experience too. I was talking to my teacher about it and told him how 
happy I was (a product of the late 60s & early 70s, any high was good high), he 
said I shouldn't be happy or be having it, told me to fix it, how to fix it, 
and why. 
 
He said it was not K but prana (Chi or Ki if you prefer those terms) that rises 
to the brain. By rising out up from the trunk of the body it actually slows or 
stops the K process of rising because it is taking prana out of the body which 
is used there to "push" the K up to the brain. 
 
The fix is to apply the throat lock. If you don't know it you should be able to 
pick it up easily from reading the instructions in any good (hatha) yoga text. 
This lock keeps the prana in the body, stops the light headedness and has a 
more positive impact on the K.
 
What you are experiencing may be different but it sounds exactly the same. If 
you try the lock and it works, that was what was happening. The throat lock 
will not keep K out of the brain, it will keep the prana that belongs in the 
trunk of the body out of the brain.
 
>One thing I have found though is that I cannot handle any sugar (For  
>example:  Chocolate, table sugar, cookies, ice cream, etc. -the  
>things that aren't good for me anyways.)  
 
You're right, they aren't good for the body and usually those and other "bad" 
foods are very bad for K process; preventing it if it hasn't started, often 
misdirecting it if it has.  Simple advice, don't do it! (Full disclosure: this 
is a do as I suggest not as I do piece of advice.)
 
>This also seems to occur with more intensisty during full moons, new  
>moons, and my own female cycle.  
 
Some of us are "moon children". I am. The full moon will send my process 
flying, even if I don't meditate. Does the same for the siddhis. Not true of 
new moons, mine is related to the power of the moon's force as a function of 
its brightness.
 
Namaste, 
Joe
 
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:09:41 -0800 (PST) 
From: " Joseph  Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 100th monkey 
Message-Id: <199703112209.OAA10678ATnospamf30.hotmail.com> 
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About whether the 100th Monkey story is fact of fiction:
 
     It doesn't matter!
 
Maybe it has to do with growing up southern but I learned as a child that if a 
story is good, it is a good story, if it contains truth, it contains truth, if 
is factual or not is not important.  
 
That's why you'll hear two friends gossiping and one will say, "Is that really 
true?"  The other will respond, "Who cares, it's a great story."
 
If you find truth in the story becoming focused on "facts" or "no facts" is 
missing the forest for the trees.
 
I hope this does not give offense to any but I was concerned that we were 
getting off topic on that one and going farther and farther off.
 
Namaste, 
Joe
 
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:43:11 -0500 (EST) 
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:  Shared Transformation 
Message-ID: <970311174306_885745616ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
 
I guess it would help if I'd include the address when I tell about a website. 
 Sorry! 
 
Thanks Doug for posting it for me.  In case anyone missed it, Here it is 
again: 
 users.aol.com/ckress/st.html
 
If you're on aol, click on the blue to get there: <A HREF="http://users.aol.co 
m/ckress/st.html">SHARED TRANSFORMATION</A>  
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:44:49 -0500 (EST) 
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Need Help Please! 
Message-ID: <970311174327_-1907880553ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>
 
Just wondering, have you looked into Hatha Yoga.  Although Kundalini can 
start becouse of Hatha Yoga, most people I know into it, aren't searching for 
K.  Kundalini Yoga deals much more directly with K, where as Hatha seems to 
be a much more rounded/easy path.  If you K does start acting up, then I 
would definatily switch to the K yoga, letting you teacher know just how much 
you want or don't want running through your system. 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:45:14 -0500 (EST) 
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: 100 Monkeys + Memes 
Message-ID: <970311174324_-2075000169ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
 
Sorry, this is probably old hat, but I thought that the 100 Monkeys delt with 
a real life example of the Memes concept.  The idea that monkeys all over the 
world would begin the same practices if enough monkeys anyware started the 
practices.  This, if accepted, would lead us to believe that if enough people 
got enlightened, or had K experience, then everyone else would automatically 
start doing so as well.  I'm not sure if total population plays into the 
equation also, but if so that means alot of K experiences are necessary.  K 
does seem to be somewhat contagious, traveling through tribes either through 
proximity or bloodlines/genetics, but K also seems to be on it's own 
schedual, doing what it wants, when it wants.  I see myself as just trying to 
be the ideal vessel for it, waiting for it to come round again.
 
Some old hat to chew on. 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:39:21 -0500 (EST) 
From: RWilli2ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Unsubscribing and Digest 
Message-ID: <970311193801_-835993434ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>
 
PLEASE  unsubscribe me from the mailing list.  Thanks 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:48:57 -0500 
From: Jason Watson <watsonATnospamandrews.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: watsonATnospamandrews.edu 
Subject: Re: Blood Sugar/Voices 
Message-ID: <3325FD79.183DATnospamandrews.edu> 
 
Joe,
 
 In response to your post on the effects of sugar, I oft find myself 
having no trouble with sugar, even though I noticed my appetite has been 
dropping noticably for the last few months, good 'ole buddy sugar never 
seemed to bother me any..(except perhaps aided my already cynical and 
odd personality :)  It may be you are right, but something else has been 
bothering me..
 
 Has anyone on this list heard "voices"?  Like you might be standing in 
a room, and hear a voice, (or think you hear)say your name, or answer a 
question you had been pondering?  I have had that happen a few times, 
pretty strange.  I tried talking to the "voices", ut they either "left" 
or responded with odd answers.  It was also kinda wierd, when I asked 
one its name, it responded with some different language or something, 
which another voice immedately said, "It means `Night Master`".  If that 
has any kind of sigificance, someone please give a holler..:)  I suppose 
this is just a thought on-line, which means I might have been talking to 
myself(Has happened before, and probably will happen again..:)
 
      Later, 
      Jason
 
---
 
Koute for the day:
 
 "Ahhh..nothing like a can of Mountain Dew to relax the nerves after 
running down your arch nemsis with a power boat."
 
      - Tom G. 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:52:14 -0700 
From: "Dave Radmacher" <daverATnospamworf.omn.com> 
To: "tinaob" <tinaobATnospamndirect.co.uk> 
Cc: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: My awakening 
Message-Id: <199703120159.SAA02985ATnospamworf.omn.com> 
 
My God Tina!.....let me rephrase that.....!!!!!MY GOD TINA!!!!!  Sorry, I 
do not wish to frighten you or any of the beloved seekers on this list, but 
as I read your post I was absolutely awestruck.  I am at a loss for words 
here.  If I were to attempt to describe my experiences three years ago last 
October, the result would match yours...experience for experience, 
no...WORD FOR WORD!  Even the Nots are a perfect match.  We had the same 
awakening!  Something very big is happening here.  The Comet has something 
to do with it.  The second coming may well be at hand.  This time not as a 
child, but as the awakening Christ Mind in all of us!  Hold on tight my 
friends.  We are that which we seek. 
Love Eternal, 
 
Dave
 
__________ 
P. Dave Radmacher 
daverATnospamworf.omn.com 
http://www.omn.com/gold/daver
 
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> From: tinaob <tinaobATnospamndirect.co.uk> 
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> Subject: My awakening 
> Date: Monday, March 10, 1997 1:35 PM 
>  
> Here's an account of my kundalini/awakening experience. After it  
> happened I started getting terrible headaches that went on for months  
> and numbness in my limbs so that my left leg and hand didn't seem to  
> be a part of me any more. About 2 months later I had what I can only  
> describe as an orgasmic seizure. Symptoms died down after that. Now  
> though the headaches are returning and the top of my head gets very  
> hot.  
>  
> The Account.... 
> Most of these details were written within a few days of the actual event. 
I want to 
>  emphasise that words are so totally inadequate, they tend to reduce the 
experience  
> rather than illuminate it.Unfortunately the further away I get from it 
the more I am 
>  reliant on the memories of impressions. It is less the event itself I 
recall, because it 
>  is not recallable or tellable in its totality, but what I remember of my 
thoughts and 
>  feelings and experiences in the moments adjacent to it (and probably 
during IT.)  
>  
> Here's what happened as best I can remember and elucidate, in the order 
it occurred 
>  - up to the point where order stopped anyway. I include some background 
>  because this probably has significance for why it happened in the first 
place. 
>  It could also be used to explain why it was an hallucination as 
well.(although I 
>  know it wasn't) It was around 10pm in my bedroom (in the UK)on my first 
day home after 
>  a long holiday. I had spent the previous month in the USA with my 
partner who 
>  lives there. I had the most wonderful, relaxing time living in a trailer 
in 
>  the countryside of West Virginia.  
>  
> Holiday over, I flew out of Washington DC on the evening of 17th of 
September.  
> The flight was awful, I didn't sleep, and though I had flown several 
times before 
>  with no concerns at all - on this occasion my mortality came very 
clearly into 
>  focus. Anyway we landed safely at 7.00am and I went straight into work, 
where 
>  I stayed all day. At 9.00pm I went to bed with a book - Scott M Peck's 
'Further 
>  along the road less travelled'. At this time then, I had been awake for 
over 30 
>  hours. About halfway through the book Mr Peck relates an anecdote of a 
dinner 
>  companion asking him to explain his latest book in a sentence, he failed 
- but then  
> he went on to relate how Jesus encapsulated the Christian message in a 
couple of 
>  sentences. " Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart with all thy soul 
and with 
>  all thy might. And love thy neighbour as thyself. "   
>  
> Although these words were familiar, the depth of their meaning hit me 
then for  
> the first time. It was as though something clicked in my brain. It was 
like finding  
> the key to everything and opening the door. At that point I felt 
unbounded love 
>  for everyone and every living thing - just an immensity of love, so that 
it was almost unbearable - I totally abandoned myself to that feeling. What 
happened next is difficult to describe because w 
> ords become inadequate. Here goes: 
>  
> I felt overwhelmed by something, some pure clear clean cool essence or 
energy- love maybe,   - pouring into me overflowing....in fact I think I 
said Oh a few times... then somewhere around this poin 
> t the experience occurred. All I can do is list impressions, thoughts and 
feelings I was able to store, the real thing is way beyond description or 
even logical recall - my brain couldn't handle the 
>  totality of it. This account is like trying to recreate the whole animal 
from a footprint in the sand. - here follow the remnants... 
>  
> Joy ecstasy love, I was immersed in and saturated with it. Understanding 
of what was going on came intuitively no one spoke to me - whilst in that 
state I understood exactly what it was all about, t 
> he meaning of life, the hows, whys and wherefores of the universe, 
everything. 
>  
> We are all in but not aware of this dimension all of the time. We are all 
one light but separate also. This doesn't make sense in our regular 
consciousness but did in that state. We are here when al 
> ive but don't know it - I identified my boyfriend's essence/energy I 
remember 
>  thinking 'It doesn't matter if I never see him again in the physical 
earthly sense 
>  because at this level we are always together, and just wanting to be 
with him was 
>  faintly ridiculous -  because there's this dimension full of love there. 
 In the next 6 
>  months we'll probably spend a week together but I didn't care at all 
then, it didn't matter. 
>  I also thought I could get back there anytime (this is proving more 
difficult ) 
>  
> Other stuff  
> Material things and our desire for them seemed totally idiotic and 
unimportant  
> - money, goods, status, age. All the human defences and facades we create 
to hide 
>  from each other are a nonsense because we are all one - making reactions 
like fear 
>  and jealousy a waste of time and energy. All the things we do to sustain 
our self 
>  image are redundant here. 
>  
> Death (physical) is a release. Our body is anchoring us in space and 
time. 
>  Life as we know it is only the tiniest bit of what comes after. 
>  
> Now the Nots 
> I didn't see any people shaped apparitions 
> No-one spoke to me - I understood everything intuitively 
> No tunnel - as in some Near Death Experiencess 
> No evil or fear 
> I didn't leave my body and look down on it I have no recollection of my 
body at all  - BUT, it was like my consciousness was everywhere at the same 
time. 
>  
>  
> Tina Walker 
>  
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