1997/03/08 10:11
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #88
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 88
Today's Topics:
change of address: Gloria
Re: One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri.
Reply to melatonin
Re: Direction & Advice
Re: Direction & Advice
serpent-ine
Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Re: Reply to melatonin
Re: Serpentine
RE: Serpentine
Re: Serpentine
Travel
NLE
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:44:55 +0000
From: lodpressATnospaminetworld.com (Gloria Greco)
To: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: change of address: Gloria
Message-ID: <33206227.4D1AATnospaminetworld.com>
Charles wrote:
> THIS IS THE AGE OF AWARENESS THAT WE HAVE A
> KUNDALINI and the next age we all will realise hat all our kundalinis
> are CONNECTED.
> I am just a lurker and awaiting more kundalini for myself.
> Charles
Charles and K list:
First, Charles...I have tried to answer your letter to me about
Victoria and it keeps coming back. My new e-mail since I'm changing
servers is lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
My new homepage starting tomorrow is http//users.intercomm.com/larryn
I will be happy to meet with her when she comes to Reno and I sent a
letter to you snail mail.
List please note my new addresss to change in your address book. Thanks
Gloria
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:48:28 +0000
From: lodpressATnospaminetworld.com (Gloria Greco)
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri.
Message-ID: <332062FB.62CATnospaminetworld.com>
> Mystress Angelique Serpent,
> Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
> Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
> *******************
> My personality is made up of a committee I call Mystress Angelique Serpent.
> Trying to credit who I am channelling/manifesting at any given moment would
> make my writing look like the authors list of the infinite number of monkeys
> who wrote Hamlet.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Hi Angelique,
Can you change my address I've changed servers. It is
lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
My new homepage address is: http://users.intercomm.com/larryn
Is there anything else I have to do to make this effective? Gloria
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:52:20 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: lissetteATnospambridge.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Reply to melatonin
Message-ID: <3320D436.57D8ATnospambest.com>
Dolce Vita wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You mentioned that you dont recommend melatonin, I have been taking if
> for 2 years now and I feel great, I had very safe k awakening, I just
> take 1 milligram istead of 3 as most people. Why do you consider it
> unsafe?
>
> thanks,
> In the service of Love and light,
> Lissette
Lisette
The dose is extremely high. The dose recommended by the FDA as proven
effective as a sleep aid is 300 micrograms. The normal pituitary output
is between 30-75mcg. (according to articles I have read). There are 200
articles on the net, boosting melatonin, but most cite the same few
studies. The real question of what the long-term affects are is unknown.
Do you want to be the white lab rat? The articles I have seen that are
pr-melatonin are also profiting from the sale of same. The purity of the
products is unregulated. L-tryptophan was also popular as a sleep aid.
The production was also unregulated and resulted in 13 deaths and 1300
injuries from contamination.
I am not pro-FDA, I think we need to be cautious consumers. Caveat
Emptor.
Morgana
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 22:47:54 -0800
From: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Chester Smith <CSStPaulATnospammsn.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Direction & Advice
Message-ID: <33210B9A.140EATnospamsympatico.ca>
Chester Smith wrote:
> Questions:
> 1. Where am I going? What is happening? What should I do?
Hi Chester
Wow, you do start off with a bang - answer the riddles of the universe, no less. Ok,
I'll humbly try, as long as you accept that I will also fail. You are going in the
direction you have already set out for even before you were born and the K awakening
is but a tool you have been given by virute of grace and who you are to help you get
'there'. Follow your heart; it knows how to take you there, and it knows where
'there' is.
> 2. I can't find time for extended meditation so I meditate briefly, and
> often, throughout the day. Okay? Not okay?
OK. Each moment in your life can be a prayer or a meditation. You can love the food
you cook for your family, you can whisper 'thankyou' to the breeze the cools your
face, you can take time to caress a cheek... These open more than just the mind.
> 3. Meditation: eyes open or closed? On what should I focus?
Either - focus on 'there' and let us know what happens...
> 4. I am becoming increasingly aware of my crown chakra and my spine. When I
> meditate on the colors of the chakras I think of orange, yellow, green,
> blue, indigo, red and white, okay?
Traditionally, they are red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple and gold. That does
not mean you are not right. You may be revealing a lot of information to yourself in
your perceptions.
> 5. Any thoughts on OBE -- how to?
Llewellyln has a book called, Astral Projection. It's one of the easiest 'how to'
books on the subject I've ever read. Strangely enough, it may happen before you get
to the last page.
> 6. Any thoughts on remote viewing?
Beautiful, painful, detached, and so much more. At night, before I fall asleep, my
mind shows me pictures of things going on around the world at that moment in time. A
mixed blessing, but it keeps me thinking that yes, things are happening as they
should regardless of my oh so human interpretations.
> Even though I have just begun, my life is changing. I'm not too sure where I
> am going or how to procede. After having read much of the kundalini e-mail I
> have come to respect your opinions. This is a lot, I know, but as a novice I
> would appreciate any thoughts or guidance.
Relax. In Kundalini is great intelligence, greater than that either you or I posses
at the conscious level. Learn rather to listen (scramble to: silent) for the
directions K is giving you and follow with an innocent heart. You'll end up where
you want to be.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
jan
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:44:00 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Chester Smith <CSStPaulATnospammsn.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Direction & Advice
Message-ID: <3320E080.49A3ATnospambest.com>
Chester Smith wrote:
> Questions:
> 1. Where am I going? What is happening? What should I do?
Morgana- The destination is not important, the process is everything.
What do you know is happening? Trust your instincts and inner knowledge
that this is a benevolent process. Do? Relax, enjoy, have fun.
> 2. I can't find time for extended meditation so I meditate briefly, and
> often, throughout the day. Okay? Not okay?
Of course okay, whatever works for you. This isn't rocket science.
> 3. Meditation: eyes open or closed? On what should I focus?
Do you prefer eyes open or shut? You can focus on many things;
a ring of light above your crown. Perfect love and perfect trust.
Gratitude for life...I'm certain you'll receive many other suggestions.
> 4. I am becoming increasingly aware of my crown chakra and my spine. When I
> meditate on the colors of the chakras I think of orange, yellow, green,
> blue, indigo, red and white, okay?
The color chart of the chakras varies depending upon whom you speak to.
I've learned at least three, choose one and stay with it.
> 5. Any thoughts on OBE -- how to?
OBE is simple. Visualize yourself standing in front of your body.
Practice walking around the room. You are simply a point of awareness.
With steady effort you'll be cruising in a month. Be certain to gather
energy and establish an "umbilical cord" of energy from yoour physical
body.
> 6. Any thoughts on remote viewing?
Simple stuff. Just takes practice and positive feedback. It takes a
while to learn to "see", since vision from the third eye is different.
Why spend time on this stuff, though? They're just distractions.
Psychic tricks aren't the point, just be a pilgrim.
Love, Morgana
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:02:29 -0800 (PST)
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: serpent-ine
Message-Id: <199703080602.WAA19339ATnospamhotmail.com>
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Yesterday I went to the new age shop I frequent. Planning to
buy incense. In thier case was these beautiful green stones. They
just caught you, and stood out like a sore thumb. I broused a little
more and had to know what they were. The lady handed me a stone that
was obviously mine. I was obsessed. Not caring how much it cost, it
was mine. I went outside the store and was feeling my energies rise.
I looked at the description of the properties of the stone and it
said, a meditation stone and helps raise the Kundalini. The power of
the stone was very pleasing. The name of the stone is Serpentine.
SERPENT-INE. SERPENT-MINE
It is a beautiful green, with gold running through it and a
little red mixed in with the green. I hold this stone and feel good
things. Last night I tried to sleep with it under my pillow as I
usually do and I saw a red in my neck and felt discomfort. It did
not stay there long.
This is the most powerful stone I own. It reminds me of the
Kundalini and the greens of nature as well as the universe.
Anita
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:08:23 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: lissetteATnospambridge.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <332067A7.7F57ATnospambridge.net>
Hey everyone who sent me the meaning of NDE, thanks. I had several
experiences while under anesthetics really intense, not wanting to
return to the body,but I was never declared dead.
Thanks again for the definition.
Love always,
Lissette
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:11:22 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Galván Jiménez Marco Antonio <magj1ATnospamibm.net>
CC: morganaATnospambest.com, lissetteATnospambridge.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <3320685A.6BBBATnospambridge.net>
HI Marco Antonio,
Welcome to the list, yo soy hispana tambien.
We have a very valuable group of people who are communicating through
this list, to exchange experiences about the divine energy of
conciousness. Stay with us, and we hope to be of service to you.'
In love and light, con amor
Lissette
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:27:50 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: lissetteATnospambridge.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reply to melatonin
Message-ID: <33206C36.2E53ATnospambridge.net>
Hi Morgana,
I read your advice, you seem to know a lot about nutrition, I love to
read all I can about the new discoveries of the alternative medicine
and ethnobotany.
I read a book called the Melatonin Miracle, and that is why I started
taking it regularly, I had been taking it before when I had trouble
sleeping,usually in my trips where I had to get up early. ( which I
don't like, because I am a singer and have a different sleeping
schedule from normal people)
You are right, the it is kind of risky to be a lab rat, but those
doctors that wrote the book, also say that since melatonin is cheap
and no one was going to spend the time and money to research it, and
they were in their 50's and not getting younger that they had taken
the job into their hands. They say marvelous things about it.that
prolongs life, prevents cancer, etc... it is hard with all the
different opinions nowadays to make a choice. I will search for a much
lower dosage, I haven't seen it but maybe cutting a 1 gram tab in half
will do it.
Thank you so much for your advice,
Wishing you love,
Lissette
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 10:28:33 -0500
From: Jason Watson <watsonATnospamandrews.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: watsonATnospamandrews.edu
Subject: Re: Serpentine
Message-ID: <332185A1.6DBFATnospamandrews.edu>
Anita,
That is an interesting stone you tell us about, can you post the cost
and where can one obtain these stones? I know somewhat of the feeling,
as you are browsing in a store, and your eyes lock on one object, and
you know you have to have it. I have a similarily purchased object that
has some interesting properties of its own. Well, I thank you for any
response you give..
Curiously Yours,
Jason
P.S. Signatures are crazie :)
----
Sam and Max Quote of the Day:
Sam: Max, wake up!
Max: What is it?
Sam: You are missing all the fun..
Max: Huh?
Sam: A seven foot specter of evil appeared in front of the car, so I ran
it over, sounded like a bag of laundry going under..hope it didn't hurt
the tires. Want a fig newton?
"Can one be called insane where sanity is defined only in the
minds of those so dillusioned to believe they are the norm?"
-Unknown Author
"What do you mean having a whittling stone in the corner of my
room is considered odd and unusual?"
-Unknown Author
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:04:14 -0500
From: Andy <A_K_SwindellsATnospamCompuServe.com>
To: "'INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Serpentine
Message-ID: <199703081104_MC2-124A-870EATnospamcompuserve.com>
<lurker mode off>
Hi I just saw the reply about serpentine, unfortunately I missed the
original from Anita.
Serpentine is one of my favorite stones, it is found in Cornwall, England
at a place called 'The lizard'.
There is a cottage industry there producing small carvings and turned
pieces.
Three types are found ; Red, White and Green.
btw my favorite crystal is rose agate.
Andy
<lurker mode on>
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 11:32:36 -0800
From: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Jason Watson <watsonATnospamandrews.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Serpentine
Message-ID: <3321BED4.5E45ATnospamsympatico.ca>
Jason Watson wrote:
>
> Anita,
>
> That is an interesting stone you tell us about, can you post the cost
> and where can one obtain these stones? I know somewhat of the feeling,
> as you are browsing in a store, and your eyes lock on one object, and
> you know you have to have it. I have a similarily purchased object that
> has some interesting properties of its own. Well, I thank you for any
> response you give..
>
> Curiously Yours,
> Jason
Hi
Abouat rocks and K:
The following are generally known to help raise / energize k energies:
I've played with each and yes, they do work. If you really want to fly,
lay them out in a circle with quartz in between to further raise their
energies, then lay down in the circle and feel that wonderful tingle!!!
Spinel is the most powerful of them all; it is also rare and expensive.
Angel wing agate, flame agate,snakeskin agate, bloodstone, garnet, red
and black obsidian, rhodochrosite, spinel (most powerful of all),
sugilite
Having said this, may I also please issue two warnings: They work, so
don't just play unless you can handle the energy; it can be powerful and,
more importantly, be careful about giving power over your K to objects
outside of yourself!!! Using rocks as crutches is not a good idea. They
are tools, facilitators, not substitutes for developing the internal
abilities you will need for the rest of your lifetime.
Having said that, and being someone who likes to play, try different
arrangements, like if your K is flowing freely, and you want to share it
with someone, make a large figure 8, (infinity) you lay down in one,
head to centre, the other person lays down, their head pointing ot yours
in the other one; allow your K to rise past your crown and into
theirs.... Use blue stones in the same configuration to help release
communications blockages between two people, celtic crosses for
information and so on... Your instincts tend to be good guides.
jan
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:37:48 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Travel
Message-ID: <3321EA3C.75FBATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi,
The Path is different for each individual
and the efficiency is dependent on the degree of application
You must first develop common sense before going on to the uncommon
(do not assume you have common sense and know what you are and
how you think).
Here are some suggestions. It is not possible to tell you
exactly how to do this as you must develop your own understanding
of why this is needed and how to go about it:
1. Keep a spiritual journal, diary or find a way to review
2. Find a method of stilling
3. Study the words of attainment
4. Find and develop contact with those further along
Progress as always is completely up to you.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:51:43 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: NLE
Message-ID: <3321ED7F.2632ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi,
Today my favourite esoteric book store
tried to find a book on NLE
What is NLE?
N ear
L ife
E xperience
in this book many diverse siddhis
are described:
1. The siddhi of knowing you are alive
2. The siddhi of caring for others
3. The siddhi of offering your positivity as your only prayer
4. The siddhi of trying to understand the profundity of even the
"trivial"
though the book contains age old wisdom
strangely it is yet to be written . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
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