1997/03/07  19:06  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #87 
  
 
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 87
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Sleep/Meditation 
  Re: Studip siddhi.. 
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Re: Another,m question for Morgana. 
  Direction & Advice 
  stop membership mailinggroup 
  A Blessing . . . 
  delete me from the mailgroup 
  Re: Studip siddhi.. 
  Re: Studip siddhi.. 
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  RE: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Re: Studip siddhi.. 
  One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri. 
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Not really stupid sidhi 
  Not really stupid sidhi 
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 20:53:02 -0500 (EST) 
From: Daforce2ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Sleep/Meditation 
Message-ID: <970306204844_1317061451ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com> 
 
something you might be interrested in,to be lucid in a dream is haveing  
control of your thoughts keeping aware of what your doing and were your at 
in other words stopping all thoughts is to be awake.letting your thoghts 
run wild is to be asleep.wether your in bed dreaming or at work dreaming 
doesnt matter.awake is awake. 
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 20:19:19 -0800 
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi.. 
Message-ID: <331F9747.1E60509BATnospamsirius.com> 
 
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Kari Kärkkäinen wrote: 
>  
> Well.. does anyone have this kind of psychic 
> "gift": when you stare at someone, her/his face 
> changes and there can be many faces one after 
> another. This strains eyes very much.
 
Kari -
 
This sort of thing has been talked about here on this list from time to 
time. I see these faces too. I see them in my own face when I look in the 
mirror and I've seen them while looking at other people. I'm not really 
sure what to think of them. For instance, when seeing these while looking 
at sombody else I don't know whether I'm seeing some other aspect of them 
or some other aspect of me which I'm projecting onto their face (like a 
movie projector showing a movie on a blank screen). Since I view the 
universe as one being it doesn't ultimately really matter very much to me. 
But it is sort of fun. It can be amusing to suddenly find yourself shaving 
someone else's face. I'm serious, it happens occasionally!
 
Best to you, 
Paul 
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:03:49 -0500 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: morganaATnospambest.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-ID: <331F2325.6D20ATnospambridge.net> 
 
 
Hi, 
What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term. 
Thanks, wishing you Love, 
Lissette 
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:08:08 -0500 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Another,m question for Morgana. 
Message-ID: <331F2428.5F2FATnospambridge.net> 
 
 
Hi, 
You mentioned that you dont recommend melatonin, I have been taking if  
for 2 years now and I feel great, I had very safe k awakening, I just  
take 1 milligram istead of 3 as most people. Why do you consider it   
unsafe?
 
thanks, 
In the service of Love and light, 
Lissette 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 10:09:32 UT 
From: "Chester Smith" <CSStPaulATnospammsn.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Direction & Advice 
Message-Id: <UPMAIL02.199703071006390911ATnospammsn.com> 
 
 Hello, 
My name is Chester; I will be 45 this month; I'm married with 3 children and I  
live in Minnesota.  I'll try to keep this short.   
 My wife and I spoke to a psychic in June, just for fun, but my life seems to  
have been changing ever since.  The psychic suggested I investigate the  
chakras.  My wife is a great reader and I found a few books written by Shirley  
MacLaine on the subject. 
 What has changed: 
 1.  painting has become my obsession, something I've never done 
 2.  I actually feel something flow from my head down through me when I even  
casually think of God 
 3.  I'm sleeping more than I have in years 
 4.  Something that I have recently noticed is that the tingle in my head I  
would feel after meditating 	     on the colors of the chakras has increased  
to a deep, enveloping "something" that feels 	     wonderful, from head to  
toe. 
 5.  On occasion, with both eyes open, I am seeing separately with each eye 
 6.  When I mediate in a dimly lit room smoke seems to surround me; 
      so much the first time I thought something was on fire. 
 7.  When I am meditating, seeing all kinds of neat things, if I think of God  
everything stops 
 8.  While at the bookstore looking for books on the chakras I first  
discovered kundalini from the 	     best book I have found on the subject,  
Kundalini and the Chakras, by Genevieve Lewis 	     Paulson. 
 Questions: 
 1.  Where am I going?  What is happening?  What should I do? 
 2.  I can't find time for extended meditation so I meditate briefly, and  
often, throughout the day.  	     Okay?  Not okay? 
 3.  Meditation: eyes open or closed?  On what should I focus? 
 4.  I am becoming increasingly aware of my crown chakra and my spine.  When I  
meditate on the 	     colors of the chakras I think of orange, yellow, green,  
blue, indigo, red and white, okay? 
 5.  Any thoughts on OBE -- how to? 
 6.  Any thoughts on remote viewing?  
 Even though I have just begun, my life is changing.  I'm not too sure where I  
am going or how to procede.  After having read much of the kundalini e-mail I  
have come to respect your opinions.  This is a lot, I know, but as a novice I  
would appreciate any thoughts or guidance. 
 Thanks for your time, 
 Chester   
   
   
      
 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:44:03 CET   
From: "P.H.Smolders" <P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl 
Subject: stop membership mailinggroup 
Message-Id: <49448.P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl> 
 
Hereby I ask you to end my membership of the kundalini-mailgroup.
 
It has been nice to for me to get some first familiarity with two phenomena: 
- kundalini 
- the phenomenon called "mailinggroup"
 
Greetings, 
      P.H.Smolders. 
e-mail adres: 
  P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl 
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:53:16 -0800 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: A Blessing . . . 
Message-ID: <3320722C.4B26ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
 
This originally was for Larry Killen 
but everybody deserves some too . . .
 
God Bless You 
and your efforts 
and all those who struggle 
to put their past behind them 
and Enter the Light
 
You enhance our Strength 
and we offer you Ours
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 16:25:23 CET   
From: "P.H.Smolders" <P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: delete me from the mailgroup 
Message-Id: <59129.P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl> 
 
Please delete my e-mail-address from the Kundalini mailgroup.
 
Thank you.
 
   P.H.Smolders 
e-mail adres: 
  P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:19:05 -0500 (EST) 
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi.. 
Message-ID: <970307101905_-970456993ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com> 
 
A wild one that I get is that I can see what people were like around the ages 
of three to five.  Very fun to try around a group of people you consider your 
superiors or generations older than yours. 
Date: 	Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:46:34 +0200 
From: Kari Kärkkäinen <karikarATnospamutu.fi> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi.. 
Message-Id: <19970307154637Z32257-9736+2356ATnospamutu.fi> 
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At 20.19 6.3.1997 -0800, you wrote: 
>Kari Kärkkäinen wrote: 
>>when you stare at someone, her/his face changes
 
>This sort of thing has been talked about here on this list from time to 
>time. I see these faces too. I see them in my own face when I look in the 
>mirror and I've seen them while looking at other people. I'm not really 
>sure what to think of them.  
[..]
 
In my opinion, they are not necessarily previous incarnations 
and thats why I call it "stupid siddhi". My sister see these 
faces too; when she stares at me, she may see for example ten 
european males from *same epoch*: they all cant be my previous 
incarnations. Sometimes she sees only Indian/tibetan males.  
I see her always as a negro or australian aborginal (she 
is "in reality" blond skandinavian). Once I saw her as a ape..
 
But if they are not incarnations, what they are and 
how this siddhi works?! Patanjali does not mention it, 
which bothers me. :-) 
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:49:17 -0800 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: lissetteATnospambridge.net 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-ID: <3320551D.3400ATnospambest.com> 
 
 
Dolce Vita wrote: 
>  
> Hi, 
> What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term. 
> Thanks, wishing you Love, 
> Lissette
 
Lisette, NDE is just a shorthand for "near-death-experience", 
someone who has been clinically dead and then revived or otherwise 
brought back. With modern medical technology this is an increasing group 
of people. It has always been part of a traditional shamanic transition. 
The people who return often have a different ability or perception, 
although this new ability often takes years to manifest fully. 
Morgana 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:32:09 -0600 
From: "Galván Jiménez Marco Antonio" <magj1ATnospamibm.net> 
To: <morganaATnospambest.com>, <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: RE: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
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Hello, this Marco from Mexico.
 
I am writing a book about the different models to understand the Kundalini 
unfolding which describe the types of risings, lists criteria for asessing 
a rising and provides recomendation for treatment in case the unfolding is 
abrupt.
 
Any reference is welcome.
 
Me gustaria conocer gente de habla hispana interesada en Kundalini. 
Love.
 
Marco Antonio Galván J 
Gutemberg 61-6. Polanco 
Mexico DF
 
<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#0000FF" face="Arial Narrow">Hello, this Marco from Mexico.<br><br>I am writing a book about the different models to understand the Kundalini unfolding which describe the types of risings, lists criteria for asessing a rising and provides recomendation for treatment in case the unfolding is abrupt.<br><br>Any reference is welcome.<br><br></p> 
<p><ul><li><font size=6>Me gustaria conocer gente de habla hispana interesada en Kundalini.<font size=2></ul></p> 
<p>Love.<br><br>Marco Antonio Galván J<br>Gutemberg 61-6. Polanco<br>Mexico DF<br><br><br></p> 
</font></font></font></body></html>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:50:59 -0500 (EST) 
From: INSPEC111ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi.. 
Message-ID: <970307155059_-2075428276ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com> 
 
In a message dated 97-03-06 12:45:38 EST, you write:
 
<< Well.. does anyone have this kind of psychic 
 "gift": when you stare at someone, her/his face 
 changes and there can be many faces one after 
 another. This strains eyes very much.  
  >>
 
 Have you seen it as you look in the mirror at yourself. I did 
 this and was surprised when after staring for awhile my features  
 changed and I looked elvish, I was told that sometimes our 
 past lives can surface by doing this.
 
 Alantra 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:09:24 -0800 (PST) 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri. 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960306172207.0a47922cATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
 
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>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:28:30 -0600 
>X-Envelope-From: roebersATnospamix.netcom.com  Fri Mar  7 13:28:30 1997 
>Old-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:27:52 -0600 (CST) 
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>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
>From: Sheri Davis <roebersATnospamix.netcom.com> 
>Subject: One other question 
>X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list 
>X-Envelope-To: kundalini-l 
> 
>I'm sure there will be more than just one more ;}} 
> 
>so, are there places in the Bay Area Calfiornia where I could talk to some 
>people about this particular Instructor or ways to find out more........ 
> 
>Having a warped sense of humor, here goes "Does it matter that I broke off 
>the end of my tailbone a few years back in a fall?" 
> 
>With Love and Laughter 
> 
>Sheri 
>~~~~ 
> 
  ListMystress Note: Sheri Davis <roebersATnospamix.netcom.com> is not on the List, 
so please respond or CC: her directly with your response....that's a cut and 
paste, not a click on the return key, or it comes back to me instead. Thanx. 
KLM.
 
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  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
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Trying to credit who I am channelling/manifesting at any given moment would 
make my writing look like the authors list of the infinite number of monkeys 
who wrote Hamlet.  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:31:48 -0500 
From: Ronald Westermann <ronwestATnospambellatlantic.net> 
To: Klist <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-ID: <3320B373.F2CATnospambellatlantic.net> 
 
 
Morgana Wyze wrote: 
>  
> Dolce Vita wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term. 
> > Thanks, wishing you Love, 
> > Lissette 
>  
> Lisette, NDE is just a shorthand for "near-death-experience", 
> someone who has been clinically dead and then revived or otherwise 
> brought back. With modern medical technology this is an increasing group 
> of people. It has always been part of a traditional shamanic transition. 
> The people who return often have a different ability or perception, 
> although this new ability often takes years to manifest fully. 
> Morgana
 
Hi there:
 
I'm presently experiencing a NLE.
 
Light empowers, 
Ronald 
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 16:58:19 -0800 
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-ID: <3320B9AB.664DATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
 
 
> > What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term.
 
just as an aside,  
there is a good movie with Ellen Burstyn (who is a pretty  
spiritual person, I hear, into Sufism) called 'Resurrection',  
available at video rental stores.
 
it's about a woman who experiences NDE, then acquires healing power. 
Some very moving scenes. Very well done.  Very prescient. 
Would go well with the movie 'Fearless' with Jeff Bridges.
 
There was a recent FoxTV movie about Dannion Brinkley's NDE 
story that I happened to catch, forget the name, pretty good.
 
Look for any movie with Ellen Burstyn, it's sure to have some 
Power in it.  Even the 'Exorcist', one of my all-time favorites, 
I always cheer for the priests in the bedroom scene.
 
cheers 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:34:59 +0000 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Not really stupid sidhi 
Message-Id: <01345974003964ATnospampeconic.net> 
 
Dear Friends,
 
About seeing those layers of faces on someone's contenance, I 
have experienced that many times.  You perhaps could take into 
account the collective consciousness of the human race and God's 
grand design of the proportions of the human body through eternity. 
Man invented Microsoft Windows and it is a program so standard. 
Cetainly, the communication of souls face to face follows this principle. 
Seeing a face in front of you always has become a time worn  
archetype that is etched from billions of repetitions one could never 
erase or delete!  You as part of the grand design and without 
separation are bound to have the ability top toggle the infinite 
number of faces before you. Any emotion can serve as a pointer 
(like your PC mouse) and the corresponding face from any space 
time continuum will manifest.  The search most people are probably 
accustomed to are in the random setting and you get these faces in the 
sequence provided or if you are unified or more aware, you could 
make the selection with your concentrative powers and access anyone 
person/face you desire.  Because the selection is endless, it would 
do you good productive-wise, to KNOW what you are seeking. 
We are in  the Age where it is NOT A STUPID QUESTION to  
be inqusiitve.  If our forefathers had been more ready to question these 
things as we are doing this very instant, we'd have come a long way 
and reach the stars and converse with other planets by now!   
God sends us prophests so often that the earth is QUICKENED and 
a new age is born with its wonderful inventions and advancements. 
THIS IS THE AGE OF AWARENESS THAT WE HAVE A  
KUNDALINI and the next age we all will realise hat all our kundalinis 
are CONNECTED. 
I am just a lurker and awaiting more kundalini for myself. 
Charles 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:05:19 +0000 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
To: :ATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Not really stupid sidhi 
Message-Id: <02051985704013ATnospampeconic.net> 
 
Dear Friends,
 
About seeing those layers of faces on someone's contenance, I 
have experienced that many times.  You perhaps could take into 
account the collective consciousness of the human race and God's 
grand design of the proportions of the human body through eternity. 
Man invented Microsoft Windows and it is a program so standard. 
Cetainly, the communication of souls face to face follows this principle. 
Seeing a face in front of you always has become a time worn  
archetype that is etched from billions of repetitions one could never 
erase or delete!  You as part of the grand design and without 
separation are bound to have the ability top toggle the infinite 
number of faces before you. Any emotion can serve as a pointer 
(like your PC mouse) and the corresponding face from any space 
time continuum will manifest.  The search most people are probably 
accustomed to are in the random setting and you get these faces in the 
sequence provided or if you are unified or more aware, you could 
make the selection with your concentrative powers and access anyone 
person/face you desire.  Because the selection is endless, it would 
do you good productive-wise, to KNOW what you are seeking. 
We are in  the Age where it is NOT A STUPID QUESTION to  
be inqusiitve.  If our forefathers had been more ready to question these 
things as we are doing this very instant, we'd have come a long way 
and reach the stars and converse with other planets by now!   
God sends us prophests so often that the earth is QUICKENED and 
a new age is born with its wonderful inventions and advancements. 
THIS IS THE AGE OF AWARENESS THAT WE HAVE A  
KUNDALINI and the next age we all will realise hat all our kundalinis 
are CONNECTED. 
I am just a lurker and awaiting more kundalini for myself. 
Charles
 
 
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