1997/03/05  11:39  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #84 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 84
 
Today's Topics: 
  Hello to All 
  ListMystress: Unsubs 
  "Lurker" Coming Out! 
  Re: Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
  Re: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
  Minneapolis 
  Re: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
  RE: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
  karma 
  Re: seizures, yoga, etc (for Jeri) 
  karma 
  Re: karma 
  Re: Ojas Shakti and Kundalini Shakti 
  copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Quick question for Morgana. 
  Re: Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
  thankyouthankyouthankyou 
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
  Today 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:21:35 -0700 
From: danieltATnospamhaag.LA.ColoState.EDU (Daniel Tal) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Cc: danieltATnospamhaag.LA.ColoState.EDU 
Subject: Hello to All 
Message-Id: <9703041621.AA22242ATnospamLA.ColoState.EDU> 
 
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Hello To All
 
 I have been on this list several times in the past but have had to  
unsubscribe due to volume.  So I will re-introduce my self 
  
 My name is Daniel Tal.  I am 25 and live in Ft Collins Colorado ( for  
the past four years).  I am a student of Landscape Architecture at Colorado  
State University. 
   
  I have had "k" in my life for about four years.  I first moved  
out to Colorado after going to school in up state NY for 2 years.  When I moved  
to Co, I started having starnge sensations and a feeling of presence around me.   
I remember the night I walked home when a powerful chill went up my spine and  
kept repeating.  It was shortly after this that I read a book Many LIves Many  
Master by Brian Weiss about reincarnation and messages ( I'm sure many of you  
are familer with it).  Soon after all hell broke loose.  I think I cried  
everyday for two years.  I learned much about myself.  The whole time I knew  
there was someting in my life that was "diffirent" from others.  I was even told  
that I was having delusions by a school therapist. 
   This past summer I atteneded a rainbow gathering.  It is  
a yearly event started in the late 60's to bring all people together.15,000  
people in the woods dancing to drums and living by being who they are without  
any judgment.  It was a powerful thing.  I cried their too.  I was told that the  
gathering "take you" to the level of spirituality you are at.  I found many  
connections and the "k" ws very active.  I returned home and found the"k" list  
and things fell into place. I finaly knew what it was in my life.  I have also  
gone to see a spiritual counceler ( she is a woman who had a NDE and "returned"  
claravoyent) and have also talked to others I have met on this list.  Many  
things are changing for me.  There is a constant heat coming from my hands,  
sometimes my body.  I feel very familer with the spirits around me and  
medidating is always a profound experience ( when I can attain it on a deep  
level).  One thing that has been almost a constant is the confusion that is mine  
as well.  It is hard to deal with and I attribute that to the connection ( to  
the universe) that is constant in my life.  I cannot isolate "k" things because  
everything feels like it relates to "k".  I have been recently told (and  
realize) that the "k" will eventually slow down.  For some reason that has made  
me appreciate it more, and has made me even more active now than I have been in  
the past months. 
    
   I have not had the urge to return to the list up until  
today. I feel like I have "lost" parts of my self and have a sense of  
instability . Praying has lost its value. I no longer know what I pary for and  
things are chaniging so fast it is hard to see life from a clear perspective.  
That is why I came back. 
     
    Yesterday, my roomate and I were driving home.   
He started talknig about giving our other roomate a hard time.  Everything he  
was syaing was negative. It had been a negative day yesterady since the  
morninig. ( dealing with roomates, large change in my family, stress from school  
work).  I turned very pale.  My roomates asked me if I was ok and I told him  
that I was not.  I let him drive and he told me that he could feel the "vibe"  
coming of from me.  It was powerful and very " bad feeling..his words".  To me  
it was the opposite of what "normaly" comes out of me. I thought for a second  
that Iwas going to die.  I got home and started to do some breathing excersise  
to center my self.  That helped, but today my head feels like its burning.  My  
mood is diffirent. Very alive feeling in comparison to last night. That is all  
for now.  
    Thank You 
    
   May you all have a peaceful day 
    
   Love Daniel Tal 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:55:37 -0500 
From: Jorian Clair <105646.2702ATnospamCompuServe.com> 
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: ListMystress: Unsubs 
Message-ID: <199703041536_MC2-121D-9014ATnospamcompuserve.com>
 
I recently subscribed and find myself being inundated by mail I don't want. 
 I'm not interested in the personal correspondence of others.  I may be 
interested in visiting the kundalini web site at some future date, but for 
not -- please UNSUBSCRIBE me.  Kindly remove my name from the mailing list.
 
Thank you,
 
Jorian Calir 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:46:25 -0500 (EST) 
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: "Lurker" Coming Out! 
Message-ID: <970304174609_787566785ATnospamemout16.mail.aol.com>
 
Hello to all:
 
I've been on the list without posting for about 2 weeks now.  I feel like I 
know some of you, so I guess it's time you got to know me, too.  I've been  
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 05:55:36 -0500 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: List Mystress <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
Message-ID: <331BFFA8.2E4CATnospambridge.net> 
 
Hi, greetings form Miami  
You wrote> 
 
 I definately want to try it.  But I am 
> >not sure how to begin.  Can anyone send me some basic instruction and 
> >may some recommended books to refer to.  I a very aware person who 
> >has studies many esoteric disciplines.  I am sure I may have some 
> >reading on it.  How can I get started right away. 
> > 
> >Ciao 
> >Eager to know
 
Kundalini is not something you try like, bowling, or  spaghetti, this  
is a divine energy that you have inside you that awakens. There are  
many people that have been on spiritul paths, even practicing  
austerities and they don't have kundalini awakening. 
Do you meditate? Do you have a spiritual path or do any practices at  
all?  
I could recommend some books, go to the book storo and in the segment  
of oriental phylosophy or religions you will find some kundalini  
books.Gopy Krishna wrote a lot about kundalini, even if his experience  
was not pleasant, that does not mean that everyone will experience  
what he did. I for instance got k awakening through a guru,  
shankipat, the awakening of the shakti, which is the kundalini shakti.
 
The first step I would say is to get some books on it and start a  
meditation practice regulartly. It is safer having a guru or spiritual  
meditation master. I myself have Gurumayi Chidvilasananda from Siddha  
Yoga as my teacher. You will decide after you read information on it. 
I hope I can be of some service to you. 
In love and light, 
Lissette  
> > 
>  
> 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:24:46 -0500 (EST) 
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
Message-ID: <970304182319_1316757238ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
 
Well, as you can see I have the problem many of you have -- Electronics don't 
always work for me!!  My computer just locked up and sent the mail I'd just 
started for no apparent reason!! 
I'll try to continue.....
 
In July 1993, I almost died in a car wreck.  I had an NDE (which was 
different from any I've heard or read about).  I have always had unusual 
phenomena in my life, though I didn't regard it as unusual!  Some of it was 
due to a slowly awakening kundalini process.  However, the NDE launched it 
into hyperspeed with tremendous intensity.  For over 2 years, I had no idea 
what was happening to me.  I tried talking to several healers and psychics, 
but no one ever mentioned kundalini.  (I'm now convinced that people who have 
no K experience are not who I should seek guidance from because they just 
don't seem to understand what they are seeing and hearing.)  
  
     After reading many books on everything from NDE to ETs, I found that 
nothing really described what I was experiencing.   Then I started finding 
info on K, but the kundalini I was experiencing was mostly the type that 
entered through the crown (I've now heard it called Cosmic or Spiritual K). 
 I think that's why no one recognised what it was.  I also have had the 
*normal*  type K, but not as often.  I also I have something that turns on a 
light in my head when I close my eyes. This really makes sleep difficult!  I 
hope someone knows something about each of these and will please respond. 
  The entire year of 1996 was one in which physical phenomena was less, but 
emotional turmoil was almost more than I could deal with.  In January of this 
year, I was told (by guidance):  "Your year is up."  It kind of made me 
angry; I mean it wasn't as if I'd had a year of vacation!!  What they meant 
though was that the emotional upheaval cycle was winding down.  Hurrah!! 
 However, the physical stuff is really kicking up.  Has anyone slept more 
than a few hours a night in the last month??  Is it any wonder I'm exhausted 
half the time!!?
 
    I see earth energy patterns since the NDE and it helps to know what some 
of the cause is, but it still isn't an easy process, is it?
 
     When I found this list, I felt immense relief!!!  You are the first 
people who talk about the same things I'm experiencing.  Wow! I'm Not Alone 
after all and I'm not crazy and I don't have some weird unknown disease.  You 
guys have saved me many hours of loneliness and despair.   
     I'm looking forward to hearing more - and talking, too!  I feel better 
just writing this much!!   Hope I haven't run on too long.
 
Thank you with all my heart.  
 
Kathy  :) 
Date: Tue,  4 Mar 1997 17:44:21, -0500 
From: fluteATnospamprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY) 
To: holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Minneapolis 
Message-Id: <199703042244.RAA54118ATnospammime3.prodigy.com>
 
look in your local yellow pages directory.. Look for Unitarian Church. 
. Unity Church.. 
Bookstores with unusual Earthy names, like awareness center..  
EarthMother..  Aquarian Sun.. 
or see if there are Healing Centers..  
good luck..
 
Flute 
Reiki I starts in the San Antonio NE Adult Education program..  
tomorrow night. McArthur High School. Teacher.. laughing 
I wonder who....moi 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:56:20 -0800 (PST) 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960303201027.3ca70dbeATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:25:21 -0600 
>From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
> 
>Well, as you can see I have the problem many of you have -- Electronics don't 
>always work for me!!  My computer just locked up and sent the mail I'd just 
>started for no apparent reason!! 
>I'll try to continue..... 
<snip> 
  There is always a reson.we just don't always know what it is...maybe it 
was afriad you were going to back down, so it leapt out first...
 
> 
>     When I found this list, I felt immense relief!!!  You are the first 
>people who talk about the same things I'm experiencing.  Wow! I'm Not Alone 
>after all and I'm not crazy and I don't have some weird unknown disease.  You 
>guys have saved me many hours of loneliness and despair.   
>     I'm looking forward to hearing more - and talking, too!  I feel better 
>just writing this much!!   Hope I haven't run on too long. 
> 
>Thank you with all my heart.   
> 
>Kathy  :) 
>
 
  Thast is wonderful, it is the List's reason for being!  
And now your story shared will help others to feel more at ease with thier 
own experiences! Wecome lurker, thankyou for coming forwaard so we may 
admire you. 
 Blessings, Angelique.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
 *******************  
   My personality is made up of a committee I call Mystress Angelique Serpent.  
Trying to credit who I am channelling/manifesting at any given moment would 
make my writing look like the authors list of the infinite number of monkeys 
who wrote Hamlet.  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 00:30:16 UT 
From: "Larry Killen" <LkillenATnospammsn.com> 
To: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com, "Kundalini, List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: RE: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!" 
Message-Id: <UPMAIL05.199703050045340446ATnospammsn.com>
 
Hi Cathy and list. 
I alos have been lurking but for nearly a year.   My story is so similiar to  
Cathy's that I felt I would speak up.  I have always had some strange  
phenomena but have struggled to understand it through normals means.  I am  
very logically minded person.  I am a computer programmer , no less.   I was  
nurtured on Ayn Rand through my teens and am somewhere between a political  
conservative and a libertarian.  This is not your normal breeding ground for  
kundalini, I suspect.  But my life has been full of strange occurences that  
even my more reticsent friends have noticed.  As a young child I thought I met  
angels, had made pedictions that came true, had bizarre wish fulfillment.  All  
of this before ten years old.  There is nothing in my family history to  
justify my type of being.  Just me.
 
  Later in life I defeloped alcoholism and did the drunk/drug thing for many  
years.  I proclaimed atheism  and had litlle time for the etherreal word.  I  
actually had a deep inner suspicion that I was wrong though.  I sought  
recovery though AA with some false starts but finally got it.  And after about  
a year the psychic ball started rolling.  I first attributed it to recovery  
and inner chemical adjustment.  But things became to bizarre for casual  
excuses.  I had even embarrassed myself when in a the house of a sister of a  
friend I was able to tell the location (and describe the appearance of) a pair  
of scissors they were looking for.  They were in her bedroom dresser vanity  
drawer with several of her under garmets.  She suspected I had been snooping  
but fortunately I was never out of my friends sight for the short time I had  
been in that house.  ( I appear more guilty thatn innocent when I try to  
explain my seeings because I feel so odd)  
   
  Several years ago I was treated for vitamintosis for I started experiencing  
a pressure in the center of my forehead.  I knew not what it was and went to  
the military Doctor and explained the symtoms.  I was taking vitamines at the  
time so he assured me that what i suffered was from an overdoes of vitamine A.  
 I stopped the vitamines but learned to live with the sensation. 
   
  I had never heard the word kundalini when a friend said I should look into  
it.  I read a few books but was unable to remember the many terms for I did  
not know how to pronounce the words.   
   
  Some suggested I contact the Kundalini Reasearch Foundation so I looked them  
up and called them.  They were very supportive and gave me the name of a K  
therapist in our area.  I did use here for nearly a year but ran low on funds.  
 She was supportive and taught me much and confirmed that I was a K kinda guy.  
 Since that time much has happened and hardly a day passes that I don't have  
an experience of sorts spoken of.  I monitored this list for a long time but  
kept mute as I wittnessed it's members.  I am trying to determine to what is  
meant by several of the terms used here.  I hear kundalini toss around rather  
losely and some of what I have read has caused me to lift an eyebrow or two.   
But overall I find the list interesting.  Maybe I will make my presence know  
more.  But I am a full time MIS grad student and work full time and am a  
fulltime father to three kids, and am a fulltime husband to a wonderful wife  
and a fulltime servant to two dogs.  So time is of the essence.... 
  Love you all 
  Larry
 
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From: 	LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com 
Sent: 	Tuesday, March 04, 1997 6:24 PM 
To: 	Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: 	Re: Continuation of "Lurker Coming Out!"
 
Well, as you can see I have the problem many of you have -- Electronics don't 
always work for me!!  My computer just locked up and sent the mail I'd just 
started for no apparent reason!! 
I'll try to continue.....
 
In July 1993, I almost died in a car wreck.  I had an NDE (which was 
different from any I've heard or read about).  I have always had unusual 
phenomena in my life, though I didn't regard it as unusual!  Some of it was 
due to a slowly awakening kundalini process.  However, the NDE launched it 
into hyperspeed with tremendous intensity.  For over 2 years, I had no idea 
what was happening to me.  I tried talking to several healers and psychics, 
but no one ever mentioned kundalini.  (I'm now convinced that people who have 
no K experience are not who I should seek guidance from because they just 
don't seem to understand what they are seeing and hearing.)  
  
     After reading many books on everything from NDE to ETs, I found that 
nothing really described what I was experiencing.   Then I started finding 
info on K, but the kundalini I was experiencing was mostly the type that 
entered through the crown (I've now heard it called Cosmic or Spiritual K). 
 I think that's why no one recognised what it was.  I also have had the 
*normal*  type K, but not as often.  I also I have something that turns on a 
light in my head when I close my eyes. This really makes sleep difficult!  I 
hope someone knows something about each of these and will please respond. 
  The entire year of 1996 was one in which physical phenomena was less, but 
emotional turmoil was almost more than I could deal with.  In January of this 
year, I was told (by guidance):  "Your year is up."  It kind of made me 
angry; I mean it wasn't as if I'd had a year of vacation!!  What they meant 
though was that the emotional upheaval cycle was winding down.  Hurrah!! 
 However, the physical stuff is really kicking up.  Has anyone slept more 
than a few hours a night in the last month??  Is it any wonder I'm exhausted 
half the time!!?
 
    I see earth energy patterns since the NDE and it helps to know what some 
of the cause is, but it still isn't an easy process, is it?
 
     When I found this list, I felt immense relief!!!  You are the first 
people who talk about the same things I'm experiencing.  Wow! I'm Not Alone 
after all and I'm not crazy and I don't have some weird unknown disease.  You 
guys have saved me many hours of loneliness and despair.   
     I'm looking forward to hearing more - and talking, too!  I feel better 
just writing this much!!   Hope I haven't run on too long.
 
Thank you with all my heart.  
 
Kathy  :) 
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:31:05 -0800 (PST) 
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: karma 
Message-Id: <199703050331.TAA21215ATnospamf21.hotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
K-list,
 
Over the weekend someone told me that Kundalini borders on 
 
your karma. Has anyone heard this before?
 
Anita
 
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:25:39 -0500 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: seizures, yoga, etc (for Jeri) 
Message-ID: <331C7733.67C4ATnospambridge.net> 
 
HI,
 
YOu said, 
> sounded to me like a plea by a junkie to the resident gurus for 
> another dose/fix of shaktipat.
 
I have been talking about gurus,I don't know if you directed this  
towards me, but I understand you. This topic has been very  
misunderstood for ages. You get shaktipat once in your life and that  
is the awakening of kundalini shakti, that is your energy, Gods energy  
that dwells in you as you. No guru can walk your spiritual path, he is  
just the candle to light your fire, instead of making fire with two  
sticks that takes longer, the guru accelerates the process. Like a  
magnet takes thousands of years to make, but you rub another piece of  
metal to it and it gets magnetized... it is a similar concept. 
The ego does not let you sometimes accept that teachers power to help  
you, the guru is an attack to the ego.  
You do your spiritual practices and keep pure thoughts and of course  
no one need a guru, but the guru is there to help, why not take  
his/her help... All spiritual leaders had their gurus, look into  
history. Even Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist who was his  
teacher, he looked for him... It is a mysterious concept, the mind is  
too limited to conceive the vast plans of the immense Consciousness. 
In service of the Light, 
Lissette 
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:21:41 -0500 
From: Andy <A_K_SwindellsATnospamCompuServe.com> 
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: karma 
Message-ID: <199703050221_MC2-1220-66DFATnospamcompuserve.com>
 
Hi Anita 
k certainly affects my karma
 
since becoming 'aware' of k odd things keep happenning to me. 
they call it syncronicity i believe?
 
 form a k-list lurker!
 
Andy
 
be safe and happy 
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 23:32:04 -0800 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: anita grayson <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: karma 
Message-ID: <331D2174.4A87ATnospambest.com> 
 
anita grayson wrote: 
>  
> K-list, 
>  
> Over the weekend someone told me that Kundalini borders on 
>  
> your karma. Has anyone heard this before? 
>  
> Anita 
>  
 I'm not certain that I understand the term "borders on". Many people 
that I've spoken to have had spontaneous recall of past-life memories 
with K. I belonged to a large K grounp in San Francisco for several 
years and I've aided  others in their K, so this seems common. I 
experienced spontaneous past-life recall also. The experiences I 
recalled cleared a lot of stuck patterns (karma?) out of my life. 
   I was taught that karma is held energy. Some is released only in 
dreams, some by conscious recall, and some is locked in muscle tissue 
and is released physically through exercise or bodywork. 
  I was also taught this about karma;  
 Supose a young woman had an abortion in a past life and felt terrible 
about it. She carries the energy into this incarnation. Perhaps through 
miscarriages or as a male who faces the loss of his unborn child through 
his partner's choice, not his. If that same woman accepted the abortion 
and felt emotionally clear around it, then no karma accrues. Karma is 
not action, it is emotional energy which is held. This energy can create 
action in a new incarnation. 
Morgana 
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:49:16 -0500 
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> 
To: Shakti4ATnospamaol.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ojas Shakti and Kundalini Shakti 
Message-ID: <331C7CBC.3DA3ATnospambridge.net> 
 
HI Shakti, 
I read the Book by Baba Muktananda the Play of Conciousness, I had to  
read it for my first intensive with Gurumayi at South Fallsberg. I  
also get the contractions you were talking about, they started  
happening about 2 weeks ago. It happens for a few seconds and it goes  
away. I felt very weird since it would happen in the weirdest  
situations. IT is a sensation, kind of strong..does that happen to you  
too? 
Love and light, SGMKJ 
Lissette 
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 23:39:13 -0800 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-ID: <331D2321.1CADATnospambest.com> 
 
Morgana Wyze wrote: 
>  
> Welcome. 
>  
> The light is probably your pituitary, over activated. I would normally 
> never recommend melatonin, but it is the natural response of the brain 
> to produce it to slow pituitary release. 
>   Fatigue is often anger. We really need less sleep than most people. 
> Anger and resistance can cause fatigue, which we run through dreams to 
> resolve. 
>   I'm gald your Emergence is going better. Your letter really touched 
> me.  I had an NDE at 17, and a difficult K opening. 
>   When I am clear, not in  anger, and still tired I look at how I'm 
> running energy at night. I get waves down through my crown, which I have 
> to ground to earth. I also lok to see if I'm keeping a fair percentage 
> to restore body tissue. And if my husband is moaning with pleasure I 
> know that he's getting a high off it in his sleep. It's my wave which K 
> is prodcing to meet an actual need. Long experience has taught me to 
> leave our soft bed and spend the night on the couch (ouch). 
>   I ride the wave, and never worry about how much actual sleep I'm 
> getting (very little, actually). An hour's meditation (grounding) clears 
> away any fatigue that manifests during the day. 
>   The physical issue that I've never resolved is back pain with pressure 
> at the base of the spine. The vertebrae move out of position, but the 
> symptoms and cause are pure K. There's unusual mobility. I've had it 
> psyched, rolfed, chiropracted, reiki'd, psychically healed, herbed. 
> Morgana 
copy to kundalini group as afterthought..does anyone else have lower 
back pain which began with kundalini? Any suggestions? 
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 23:49:08 -0800 
From: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Quick question for Morgana. 
Message-ID: <331D2574.1B18ATnospampacific.net> 
 
Hi Morgana,
 
Quick question.
 
> > The light is probably your pituitary, over activated. I would normally 
> > never recommend melatonin, but it is the natural response of the brain 
> > to produce it to slow pituitary release.
 
Why no melatonin?  What is your understanding of how this interacts 
with K energy?  Would would the result be?  Very curious. 
--  
In the Ecstatic Theatre of Life -- Omega 
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:17:35 -0800 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lissetteATnospambridge.net 
Subject: Re: Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
Message-ID: <331DB8BF.745CATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Hi,
 
> Kundalini is not something you try like, bowling, or spaghetti, this 
> is a divine energy that you have inside you that awakens. 
 
Whilst what you say is true 
it is a slight on the spiritual reality 
of a bowl of pasta 
I was taught great wisdom by a lamp post (street light) 
It had been painted white and red 
and made me realise that all things are an expression 
of innate reality 
Everything is a language that alludes or points to something 
underlying its existence. 
Tomatoe sauce or meat balls?
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster 
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 06:26:41 -0700 (MST) 
From: Jeri Edwards <jmdeATnospammontana.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: thankyouthankyouthankyou 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.970305061426.27811B-100000ATnospamuncle> 
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I would like to thank everyone who responded to my cry for help and advice 
concerning the very powerful kundalini energies that have been charging 
through my life lately. I haven't always been able to respond in person, 
but have always read and meditated on the information you have shared with 
me. 
I went to visit a Healer two weeks ago and she found a bloodclot, a 
pinched nerve and damage to my energy fields that could account for the 
intensity of my body's reaction to the flow of energy. She healed these 
and my 'rock and roll' episodes have become slight shivers.  
Delightful! 
Thank you all. 
Jeri 
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:26:02 -0500 
From: LIGHHTNINGRODATnospamwebtv.net (debbie Robinson) 
To: morganaATnospambest.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy) 
Message-Id: <199703051426.GAA17627ATnospammailtod-2.alma.webtv.net> 
 
Hi Morgana and greetings to the k list from a recently joined lurker. 
Found your references to lower back compelling.  I've had lots of that 
as well. The early years in particular.  It seems that 2 things are 
involved for many of us. An emotional component which fairly demands 
that we take a look at all those items we've put  
off dealing with in life. (casting them behind us more literally than we 
realized).  
And, of course, there's the rather high anxiety that attends the release 
of k energy anyway.  I found that physically  
discharging the tension through walking, sex, physical work helps 
considerably when the energy is running high.  Remembering the 
electrical nature of the energy in our systems- replacing minerals  
frequently  helps with the burnout feelings.  
Secondly, the sexual/ low back  connection is significant (not to 
mention,  
real juicy)  Responding and observing, rather than resisting, is vital. 
Dance,  
self love,  and whatever else helps you physically move the energy 
through you  
will help keep you out of overload in that  
area.  Don't resist the emotional content of the energy that is rising 
into you from the k.  It's rich stuff.  A little heady at times, but 
allow it to flow as well.                
"Live all you can.  It's a mistake not to." 
Henry James 
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:35:23 -0700 
From: danieltATnospamhaag.LA.ColoState.EDU (Daniel Tal) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Today 
Message-Id: <199703051835.LAA01634ATnospamsteinitz.LA.ColoState.EDU> 
 
Content-Md5: b7ctTyJKubss/Q4M1DoRbw==
 
Hello to all
 
Right now, as I write I have some really strong physical pain.  It is at the  
base of my spine ( gee?) and while it feels physical it is sending energy out  
the top of my head so strong it is hard to stand up. My emotions right now are  
crazy as well. I just want to cry. I can't tell if I'm being burned or if cold  
water is goind down my back.
 
I don't mind this.  While it is not pleasant, it is profound.  That alone  
sustains me.
 
I just wanted to share
 
Daniel
 
 
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