1997/03/04  01:22  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #83 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 83
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: silence 
  Crystal Source 
  Circles 
  Minneapolis 
  Re: Circles 
  Re: silence 
  ListMystress: Unsubs 
  Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: Minneapolis 
  Re: Minneapolis 
  Re: Minneapolis 
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 11:59:21 
From: Ed Johnson <orangeATnospamislandnet.com> 
To: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: silence 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970302115921.411fc9e0ATnospamislandnet.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
What a beautiful day this morning has been!  I woke up with a poem to Leonard Cohen, 
went for a walk in the sunshine by the lake, and then came home to this lovely 
message from Jan, whom I adore.
 
Whilst I have no 'k' experiences to report I do find the words written by the  
correspondents of this group resonating in my being more often than not.
 
A brief history of the universe:
 
I began my twenties in the 60's with a spiritual search which curiously led me in 
a circle.  I began looking for the answers until the answer of course, found me:  look within.
 
A spiritual experience in Mexico confirmed the tenuousness of physical reality. 
'Going with the flow' saw me creating a business in order to realize that I could 
really do such a thing - for thirty years yet - and be successful.
 
So now this ex-hippy is disengaging from economic competition and looking to resume a 'real' life of awe and wonder again, something many of you are expressing 
very well.  So while my vocabulary of experiences may differ from yours, the 
similarity of feeling and the ultimate goal does not.  I look forward to sharing 
those feelings in the future.
 
ed. 
Date: Sun,  2 Mar 1997 14:57:34, -0500 
From: fluteATnospamprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, sgh8977ATnospammail.utexas.edu 
Subject: Crystal Source 
Message-Id: <199703021957.OAA15992ATnospammime3.prodigy.com>
 
Yes..  
check.. http://pages.prodigy.comf/flute/earthmother 
Its a local store in San Antonio that Creative Minds works their  
website.. 
flute 
Creative Minds unlimited 
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 16:54:17 -0800 
From: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Circles 
Message-ID: <331A2139.776ATnospamsympatico.ca> 
 
Hi all
 
>From out of my sadness of a day ago, a gentle and beautiful feeling has  
grown out of the warmth you have sent out to me from your own experiences  
of pain.  It's a wonderful feeling to *know* as no book-bound  
psychologist can, that in all pains are the seeds of laughter and joy.   
All experiences;  'good', 'bad', or 'indifferent'; all have the capacity  
to bring people together in recognition of the ever widening concentric  
circles of love.   I've known this for a long time.  It's so great to  
FEEL it once again.  
 
And Gloria, somewhere in all of this, I hear your voice reminding me to  
tuck and roll and to dissociate.   
  
Thanks
 
jan 
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:45:19 -0600 (CST) 
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Minneapolis 
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970302154353.18980A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
 Does anyone here live in Twin Cities?  If so, do you know of any 
kundalini related things(*anything*) pertaining to this area?
 
Thanks, 
Nothing Is 
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 14:33:31 +0000 
From: lodpressATnospaminetworld.com (Gloria Greco) 
To: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca> 
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Circles 
Message-ID: <33198FB6.6991ATnospaminetworld.com> 
 
Jan Watson wrote: 
>  
> Hi all 
>  
> >From out of my sadness of a day ago, a gentle and beautiful feeling has 
> grown out of the warmth you have sent out to me from your own experiences 
> of pain.  It's a wonderful feeling to *know* as no book-bound 
> psychologist can, that in all pains are the seeds of laughter and joy. 
> All experiences;  'good', 'bad', or 'indifferent'; all have the capacity 
> to bring people together in recognition of the ever widening concentric 
> circles of love.   I've known this for a long time.  It's so great to 
> FEEL it once again. 
>  
> And Gloria, somewhere in all of this, I hear your voice reminding me to 
> tuck and roll and to dissociate. 
>  
> Thanks 
>  
> jan
 
HI Hon, 
 You have heard from me in spirit, yes. I've been off for a few days but 
I'm back. What you go through comes in cycles, you just felt deeply 
those emotions, it leaves and will come again but with less emotion and 
pain. EAch time you spiral through this stuff you will have more 
insight, awareness and acceptance. It is just the way it is. Tuck and 
roll is the best term I know of how to handle illusion. Love to all. 
Gloria 
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 14:02:50 +0000 
From: lodpressATnospaminetworld.com (Gloria Greco) 
To: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: silence 
Message-ID: <33198888.7992ATnospaminetworld.com> 
 
Jan Watson wrote: 
>  
> Hi all 
>  
> Last night, I lay quietly beneath a mound of feathers protecting me from the real 
> world that threatened to infringe upon the room I call 'sanctuary'.  K has been 
> unusually strong lately, and yesterday I was so busy, I let down my guard and 
> forgot to censor my words at work.  Backdrop:  When K is strong and I am removed 
> from my ego, I tend see images as I am talking to people that explain to me the 
> real intent of their words or that explain what is going on beneath their surface 
> that they themselves may or may not know.  I'm usually very careful not to reveal 
> this to anyone.  When I'm careful, I get comments like, "How insightful... boy, 
> that was dead on... - all within the normal range of normal experience. 
> Not yesterday.  Yesterday, I made the mistake of speaking words that revealed my 
> 'sometimes' abilities to a male staff member.  He'll be silent. He's young and new 
> and too afraid of not being believed anyway, but the pain in me was great.  Most 
> days, it matters little to me what others think of me.  Most days, I just do what 
> needs doing, smile and move on.  Yesterday, the pain was for the words that could 
> not be spoken openly to ally the young man's fears.  It was pain for a society 
> that is too afraid of itself to not be afraid of me.  It was pain for all those 
> like me who are not as strong and hurt too often because they too, are hiding. 
>  
> "Don't hide!"  I hear in some minds.  But I know, I know that you can't teach in a 
> highschool in a conservative little Canadian community and keep your job for long 
> and I'm a single parent with 2 little kids and 2 disabled parents to look after. 
> I'm neither brave enough nor foolish enough to speak freely. 
>  
> And so, in my warm bed, in my sanctuary, I'm safe from any words I might 
> inadvertently say.  This is my special realm where I speak  to those who know more 
> than I.  Here, I ask those higher than I to teach me openly, and feel the 
> exhilarating thrill of my own greatness and smallnes.  Here, those universal 
> forces, the angels, the lightbeings, the evolved minds, light itself - none judge 
> me, all give all I can absorb.  Here the silence is not deafening; here, the 
> silence comes from between the heart beats of the universe itself!  What a great 
> place to be. 
>  
> jan
 
HI Jan, 
 While sometimes you feel like your experience is so very different that 
it is impossible to communicate, it does get communicated in spite of 
the silence. It is shown in fruit. This is why the silence has to be 
there. When there is silence but action, what you know inside comes out 
in specific ways that only spirit can manifest and out of that comes 
connections spiritually with others. Be patient, and know you are not 
alone, that is the illusion. 
 I published a community newspaper for 12 years and in between the lines 
were pearls, but it wasn't spoken directly but on occasion when the 
opportunity was there. And yes, the community knows I'm different, but 
they also know by the fruit that I am real, sincere, and there for what 
is of truth. And, instead of people withdrawing away they have come 
forward, some say they can't understand yet what I mean, but they still 
want to be my friend. And, they also want to share with me when 
something they don't understand happens, a dream, etc.  
 While it is wise not to bring people directly into your experience, it 
is ok to share a glimpse here and there when spirit does it. Just remove 
the fear, and whatever will be will be from God's Will for you. Knowing 
that God is working for  you, through you should be a comfort, 
therefore, is not God taking care of your needs? Does he/she not know 
that you are a single mom  with responsiblities. Let your faith carry 
you and you won't be hiding but instead let your light shine. Gloria 
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:34:32 +0000 
From: "List Mystress " <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: ListMystress: Unsubs 
Message-Id: <199703030419.UAA06924ATnospamweb.iceonline.com> 
 
  We have had a lot of posts bouncing around this week, and therefore  
in my wisdom I am unsubscribing these addresses....if I am  
unsubscribing you in error, let me know and I 'll resub you. 
   
 Sometimes it's just a full mailbox.
 
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garymanATnospamworldnet.att.net 
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clabey7ATnospamconcentric.net 
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terryATnospameskimo.com
 
  Hoping I haven't uncloseted any lurkers... 
 Blessings, ListMystress. 
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:17 +0000 
From: "List Mystress" <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Forward from Kundalini-l-request... 
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 Forwarded from the website: not on the list. Please post responses 
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>Hello 
> 
>I don't mean to sound completly ingnorant regarding the Kudalini, 
>however I never thougt that I would find a partner thar would be 
>interested or want to try it.. I definately want to try it.  But I am 
>not sure how to begin.  Can anyone send me some basic instruction and 
>may some recommended books to refer to.  I a very aware person who 
>has studies many esoteric disciplines.  I am sure I may have some 
>reading on it.  How can I get started right away. 
>  
>Ciao  
>Eager to know 
> 
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:48:07 -1000 (HST) 
From: Torch <Torch777ATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199703031248.CAA05218ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
My message is:
 
Im doing a study about kundalini and its effects. 
If YOU have anything that you think could be a help to me, please, 
send me some information at Torch777ATnospamhotmail.com
 
Im interested in personal experiences as well as esoteric knowledge.
 
Yours Milan K. 
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:07:39 -0800 
From: MAX PRESCOTT <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Minneapolis 
Message-ID: <331B136B.35FBATnospamwin.bright.net> 
 
I live in Red Wing which is only an hour away from Minneapolis and know  
of nothing. I have really been putting my feelers out there too.  No one  
seems to know anything.  In fact, many spiritual people I have contacted  
really don't know what Kundalini is.  They are glad I can tell them some  
things.  If you find anything, I would also be curious to find more out  
about what is in this area.  Love and Light, Colleen   
sumacATnospamwin.bright.net
 
 
Nothing Is wrote: 
>  
>         Does anyone here live in Twin Cities?  If so, do you know of any 
> kundalini related things(*anything*) pertaining to this area? 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Nothing Is 
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 11:45:12 -0800 
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Minneapolis 
Message-ID: <331B2A48.755FATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
 
how about looking for a Pentecostal or Holy Roller kind of Baptist 
church?  Or a Quaker church? Seriously.  If there is nothing else  
around, these folks at least have some experience with the 'tongues  
of fire'.  Walk around some Black neighborhood churches on  
Sunday morning and listen for some loud shouting coming out,  
chances are some people inside will  
know what you are talking about.  Or walk around some White neighborhood 
Quaker churches and listen for a silent glow coming 
out, chances are, again, some people inside will know what you are 
talking about.  If they bring out a box filled with snakes, though, 
watch out!
 
But I am only guessing from what I have read, no personal  
experience here ... 
 
cheers 
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 03:47:13 -0800 
From: S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com> 
To: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Minneapolis 
Message-ID: <331C0BC1.6BD6ATnospammbcomp.com> 
 
Nothing Is wrote: 
>  
>         Does anyone here live in Twin Cities?  If so, do you know of any 
> kundalini related things(*anything*) pertaining to this area? 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Nothing Is
 
dear nothing is...
 
personally cant speak for minneapolis...but can speak about my little  
part of this big blue marble...
 
my church, is very active in spiritual related things...offers classes in  
yoga, ti chi, reiki, goddess circles, etc...you may want to check out if  
there is in your area...
 
i am a UNITARIAN, by the way...
 
also look to health food stores for info?   
start your own group?
 
happy hunting!
 
warmly,  
Steven
 
 
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