1997/02/17  20:02  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #72 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 72
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: new to the k-list  
   
  Re: 4th dimension calander 
  TV Movie about epilepsy 
  Re: new to the k-list  
  Re: Sideways Time Travel 
  Re: unconditional love  
  Re: unconditional love toothpaste 
  who am I? 
  Picture of who I am 
  Re: TV Movie about epilepsy 
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:43:33 -0800 
From: MAX PRESCOTT <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: new to the k-list  
   
Message-ID: <3307C5D5.17FATnospamwin.bright.net> 
 
Hi Stefan,  I can relate to so much of what you are saying.  It is pretty  
amazing.  I have also been through the "Kundalini Crisis" many times and  
also have been quite afraid to go to sleep, or to do too much that would  
activate the Kundalini.  Mainly because of what has happened in the past  
with the kundalini.  Lately I realized that I did not want to live in  
fear anymore.  I found that I cannot control this energy and never quite  
know what triggers it.  So this past month I have decided to go with it  
rather than fight it.  When I feel the energy rising or just know when  
something is brewing, I pray for divine protection and bring the Christ  
light in.  I have found that the next day I do not have pains all over my  
body where it is purifying, and I find the experience is a good one.  I  
too have quit meditating due to the intense energy that comes in.   
Instead I journal in the morning and take quiet time at night before  
supper.  This really helps me.  Trust your instinct, you'll be ok if you  
believe that in your heart.  I have just found that it isn't fun to live  
in fear anymore.  Bring in divine love instead.  Picture it infiltrating  
into your heart.  You'll feel much better.  Good luck with this.  Love  
and Light, Colleen   sumacATnospamwin.bright.net
 
Stephane Marconi wrote: 
>  amount of mail this list generates. Still, I'm sure to get useful info. 
>  
> I'm stefan, 25 . I first became aware of the k process in me a couple of 
> years ago after an experience which I will describe later. From the 
> information I gathered since then I figured it all really started in my 
>  teens. As far as I remember, the evidence from that period are the 
> buzzing ears( during ~sleep), heat in specific regions of my body(stomach, 
> back), I also once heard a voice say, in a very gentle manner:"wake up" to 
> me ; but also, a great fatigue: I used to explain this as if I was 
> "leaking". Actually I was quite depressed. 
>  
> Anyway, I must add that I felt split into two . Part of me has always 
> trusted God or Divine will or whatever you want to call it, while the 
> other couldn't get together and go on about everyday life. This went on 
> until I decided and understood I couldn't find a "solution" alone. I will 
> not go in all the details of my life, but it can be summed upt to : 
> meeting. Either people, music( it has been quite a trigger for me ), 
> books,... . So, eventually I met some reiki-like method. Essentially, 
> it allowed  me to consciously absorb prana, ki, chi ... . It also 
>  involved some very short meditations . This really help me balance my 
> mind and body. I now enjoy a good health and everyday is a new day. 
>  
> Get to the point: 
>  
> I cannot really attribute what I'm about to describe, which I call a 
> k-crisis, to anything in particular. I was reading "the Book of Miracles" 
> at the time, practicing aikido, doing meditations . My experience in these 
> short meditations had come to the point where my mind would still itself 
> very suddenly;energy would start to flow very strongly on the top of my 
> head. At this point I would stop . Anyway, one morning as I was waiting 
> for a bus, I sat on a bench and started a short meditation. I usually 
> tried to feel one with EVERYTHING. Then there was a sensation on my 
> bottom. It grew, it was like a wave vibrating; my body was this wave. I 
> resumed the mediation, the bus was arriving. I was quite happy with 
> myself. 
>  
> That night, as I was relaxing to go to sleep, the wave sensation came 
> back. It started at the bottom of the spine , then disappeared. Then 
> something similar started with my head. Something  was growing in a 
> wave-like motion. 
>  
> Now, a few month earlier, I had read a book by Gopi Krishna about his 
> kundalini experience. So when this happened to me, I knew what it was 
> and that it could be "dangerous",i.e. there could be physical consequences. 
>  
> As the wave continued to grow I got scared, I mean really scared. All I 
> really wanted now was to stay my little self. I managed to stop the 
> expansion. I figured that I didn't want to go through this if I was to be 
> scared. 
>  
> The following days went ok, but at night I was scared to go to sleep, 
> because as soon as I would relax, the wave would start again( even very 
> faintly). I always managed to fall asleep. 
>  
> After a couple of days, it stopped. I stopped all meditations for many 
> months. Still, I needed to know more about this. I read the article by 
> Gloria Greco and it rang a bell. 
>  
> Since then, it has come back once or twice. I still get scared and I still 
> manage to stop it. The last time it nearly happened was caused by 
> my attitude during the day. Let me explain: I spent that day truly loving 
> people. It doesn't happen that often. By the end of the day, this attitude 
> had changed to accepting life as it is, without trying to control 
> everything, accepting the very SOURCE OF LIFE. 
> These words may sound very kitsh, but to them corresponds a very physical 
> or energetical sensation. That night as I relaxed, my forehead chacra was 
> wide open, my heart center also and then  went seemed to be a k-crisis 
> started and again I got scared, really scared. My body felt as if it was 
> going to vanish. I changed my thought and stopped the whole thing again. 
>  
> The point is: 
>  
> Now, it is important for me to develop this Love, but if it leads to a 
> k-crisis it seems as if I'm stuck. I've been very patient about the whole 
> process and want to do things "just right".  I'm confident that it will unfold in a 
> natural way. Yet I am impatient at the same time; I will therefore welcome any 
> words  of advice from experienced people on the k-list. 
>  
> sincerely, stefan. 
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:41:42, -0500 
From: fluteATnospamprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY) 
To: brothersATnospamgiasdl01.vsnl.net.in, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 4th dimension calander 
Message-Id: <199702170041.TAA58800ATnospammime3.prodigy.com>
 
I will forward your note to a friend of mine that has her Doctorate  
in Mayan Histories. 
I do believe she has a website with Info on it..  
flute 
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:12:59, -0500 
From: fluteATnospamprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, zonta3ATnospamjuno.com, WorcaATnospamaol.com, 
 jbaxleyATnospamicanect.net, rfeldmanATnospamjulian.uwo.ca, DiepenbrATnospamuss.uniworld.nl, 
 Sodus4ATnospamParrett.net, mxpressATnospamhypercon.com, BREEZE0421ATnospamaol.com, 
 limiteATnospaminfonet.com.py, julietATnospammoderncartoons.com, 
 madieterATnospamearthlink.net, stevieATnospamthepentagon.com, lodpressATnospaminetworld.com, 
 wicca101ATnospamjuno.com, pauleATnospamsirius.com 
Subject: TV Movie about epilepsy 
Message-Id: <199702170112.UAB84802ATnospammime3.prodigy.com>
 
Paul, I have a story that I rarely share.. However:  
My daughter had severe birth trauma. She Aspirated herself when she  
was born and would completely stop breathing at times, developed  
pneumonia then a dozen other things.  After a month or two she was  
finally released from the hospital and began having gran mal seizures. 
   
I think they used every drug they had on her over the period of 12  
years. None of hte medications would hold her for any significant  
time.  Her seizures changed as the medications changed.  We had ones  
where she walked in a circle, ones where the did the traditional  
things. Some where she just stood and stared with her face and head  
turning to the left.   
The most dramatic one was when she was 12 years old.. She woke up  
screaming and screaming .. wanting to run. We had to hold her. My  
husband held her down while I called the Doctor.. and he said if she  
continued for one more minute to bring her into the hospital. (they  
had talked of surgery). 
I panic'd. The very last thing in the world I wanted them to do was  
operate on her and mess with her brain.   
I sat down, holding her and put my hand on her head.. I knew where  
the seizure activity was suppose to be.. We had seen many many scans. 
etc.  I put my fingers on her head and turned them in a circle as if  
I were grasping the spot of nerve endings gone wild.  Then I pulled  
my hand toward me and said.. Let me take this from her.. I want her  
free of it..  and I told myself and her.. its better, just a bit..  
then I did the same thing a couple of times more knowing that each  
time the pain was lessening.. Her screaming did stop.  Then I  
realized I had asked for this problem.. and I said.."no" I don't want  
it.. and threw it away. 
.  I had been doing something similiar to get rid of my own migrane  
headaches for a few years and it was my last resort with her.. but I  
wasn't really sure it was me or my actions that accomplished anything.
 
Her next MRI.. was clean... She still has some brain damage that  
prevents her from thinking like others, but I am not so sure that's a  
failing.. <G>. I did not know at the time what I did.  I just knew I  
had to do something. I still keep trying to figure out what happened.. 
 I have not really put any name or words to describe it..I called it  
a mother's love for ages and never told anyone (That was over 10  
years ago). 
  In the last 5 years I have looked at many healing methods and took  
Reiki.  I think now.. What I did (if it needs a label) was a  
combination of Empathic and my own Reiki.  I have done things like  
that for probaby 30 years.  I've  known much but hidden it from  
everyone  
Only in the last few years have I found others that I could talk to  
about it.. Ones that would not think I was crazy.  I lived in Hawaii  
for a number of years and felt a kinship with the huna religion  
because of the things I had experienced. When we moved from there ...  
back to the bible belt, I was in hiding again until I found computers. 
. and people to talk with.   
I find groups like the one here.. and I can't say THANK YOU enough  
for being here..  
Many Bright Hugs..  
and much love  
Flute 
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:22:59 +0000 
From: gawainATnospammail.inlink.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: new to the k-list  
Message-Id: <199702170322.VAA20234ATnospamthor.inlink.com> 
 
Greeting everyone and big hugs,
 
I'm Gawain or Craig or this 42 year old male individual with identity  
problems since spending way too much time on-line and on-list for  
three years.  *smile*
 
Anyway, 500 years before Atlantis fell I was born a prophetist with a  
veil over my face.  Astrologers found me and took me away to a  
prophetist school.  I led a very austere life.  When I was a young  
lady, slivers of corundums (rubys) and diamonds and various crystals  
were placed in key locations in my spine to awaken Kundalini so that  
I would become clairaudient, clairvoyant and clairessent.  I was a  
good prophesist, but since it was so tramatic, I have held kundalini  
back during this lifetime.
 
I believe kundalini has started moving and what a mess I'm in now.   
hehehehe  I have bad lower back pains, my neck is always sore and I  
jerk my neck around quickly to kind of pop it and give me some  
relief.  I was at Sea World of Florida last month and was watching  
the dolphins and two of them jumped out of the water and they were so  
beautiful I began crying.  There i was, sitting with macho friends  
and tears were streaming down my cheeks.  And I mean streaming,  
hahaha.  
 
Emotions have been running rampant.  I have found I have this little  
sigh that comes from the core of my being and is kinda sensual.  Hard  
to describe.  Anyway, energy is a problem.  I run out of steam early  
in the evening and I have trouble maintaining coherant thoughts  
sometimes.  This is big trouble at work as I'm an engineer and need my  
mind at times hahahahaha.
 
I live alone and I vaciliate from graditude for the opportunity to 
do what I want to do and desire for a loving companion.  The thing 
here is that any emotions I have are so very intense.  When I wish 
for a partner to snuggle with this desiring travels to the very core 
of my being and I experience such intense longings.  I have not 
become depressed by the Grace of God/Goddess...  *big smile*  I am 
on a spiritual quest and I find love and life everywhere I look.
 
I know this is running on... sorry, but I tell this story in hopes of  
some advise from my new friends.  I have been getting some body work  
and you wouldn't believe the emotions *that* has released.  hahahaha
 
Anyway, I am a tripple Taurus.. sun, moon and mercury are in Taurus. 
My degree is geology and I have studied with Melody and consider 
myself (very humbly) a crystal healer.
 
 
Love and Light and more hugs,
 
Gawain  
.. 
http://www.inlink.com/~gawain 
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:33:46 -0800 
From: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Sideways Time Travel 
Message-ID: <3307D19A.14BEATnospampacific.net> 
 
Hi Lobster,
 
> There is. 
> I believe a book called The Carlos Experiment - which deals with this? 
> Someone on the K list will be so kind as to tell you . . . 
> Time has long been travelled by mind. 
> Physical bi location is also independent of time. 
> Time is just an exploration of Eternity. 
> Just as we can now fly, so too will we travel through time . . .
 
_The Selected Writings of Philip K. Dick_ is a book the recounts 
P.K. Dick's experiences with sideways time travel.  In a journey 
which took him to the edge of sanity, his notes recount how he 
became aware that his novels which were recounting a world in 
which Nazi Germany won WWII and conquered the world were in fact 
drawing from an alternate reality that had been uncreated.
 
He goes on to describe how he stopped writing sequels on this  
because the reality he was tuning into was to grim to bear. 
--  
In the Ecstatic Theatre of Life -- Omega 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:15:35 -0500 (EST) 
From: LwMema3ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: unconditional love  
Message-ID: <970217103027_1845580610ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
 
traveler, 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:18:59 -0500 (EST) 
From: LwMema3ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: unconditional love toothpaste 
Message-ID: <970217103330_1281606085ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
 
traveler, 
as I was writing you and email i sent it somehow and it was only a word or 
two--- sorry for wasting your time... anyway what I was going to say was--- 
I would love some toothpaste that has tea tree oil in it, could you give me a 
product name or something so I may purchase a tube, I use the oil for my 
gums, but a daily addative in my toothpaste would work wonders I believe. 
 Thanks, whenever you have time to get to it would be great.  Thanks! 
Light and Love, 
Lori 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:03:03 -0800 
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: who am I? 
Message-ID: <3308E3A7.7F38ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com> 
 
I am sure everyone would love to see what I really look like, 
so I put my picture on my brand-new web site, check it out! 
Dont stare at it too hard or your K may go wacky!
 
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1756/personal.htm
 
back to work before they fire me.... 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:35:40 +0000 
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Picture of who I am 
Message-Id: <23354009200355ATnospampeconic.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi, 
 Im Victoria ~V~ and my picture-portrait is at 
http://www.transport.com/~barter/gdame2.htm 
my husband C. wildbank painted it, I was the model for a book 
illustration, and we are not with that group that sells the print of me. 
sincerely,:) 
 Victoria 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:01:11 -0500 (EST) 
From: SeraphinsATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: TV Movie about epilepsy 
Message-ID: <970217220109_650080449ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
 
Flute, I have heard of similar accounts.  My business partner tell the story 
of a bad tooth he had - this about 18 years ago)  His then wife, who was and 
is a K-meditation teacher and who has always had great healing abilities, 
would "pull" ropes and ropes of "yuk" out of his tooth.  (Who needs a 
dentist?)  
 
I will never get that visualization out of my mind!  
 
Anyone can heal to a certan extent, but some are gifted to do things like you 
and she have done.
 
 
Susan
 
 
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