To: K-list 
Recieved: 2003/04/07  02:39  
Subject: Re: [K-list] menstruation 
From: hbrost
  
On 2003/04/07  02:39, hbrost posted thus to the K-list: 
 >Dear David, 
> 
>Just when you think it can't get any worse...and while you probably think 
>you mean well, you too have a major dick growing out of your head. 
 
Dear Hety, 
 
I will forgive remarks such as the above because, for all I know, you may be 
"under the influence" and may have little or no control over your emotions. 
;) 
__________________ 
 
To the point, David!  How astute!  I probably don't.  I've been arguing on 
two lists ad nauseam and altho' I think I'm perfectly calm, I'm probably 
not.  I'm a woman, you see.  And while you may think I'm being sarcastic, 
I'm not.  This is why such a "crazed" (my word not yours) outburst at 
someone peddling herbs to make everything OK for a woman who is 1) In 
extreme perimenopausal status; and 2) Going through amazing Kundalini 
symptoms, is as ludicrous as the argument itself. 
_________________ 
 
If I as a man cannot be trusted to relay useful information about nutrition 
and such, I can easily find you someone with ovaries instead of testes, who 
can tell you the exact same things. 
 
BTW, in mentioning the whole herbs (cohosh, dong quai, primrose oil), I was 
encouraging people to do their own research, not to just run out, buy a 
bottle and start gulping down pills. 
_____________________ 
 
You weren't.  You were trying to peddle herbs.  You didn't SAY to "people" 
to do their own research, did you?  I also give credit to all the women who 
are subscribed to this K list that that would be the case -- in the first 
place! 
_________________ 
 
The 
>"items" you listed below, that you conveniently sell to us poor women, act 
>for the most part as natural hormone replacements and shouldn't even be 
>considered by "normal" younger women. 
 
Who is "normal" these days? To one extent or another, in one way or another, 
most of us living in this society and consuming the Standard American Diet 
(SAD) are sick or imbalanced. Some of us are even born that way due to the 
poor lifestyle choices of our mothers--and fathers! 
________________ 
 
Yes, this really is a good time for pharma companies and other such.  I have 
a good idea that too, the women on this list, due to compounding K symptoms 
on top of "normal" womanly cycles, have already done their own research. 
Thank you anyway.  This list really helps with the sorting out process. 
Mystress has many natural remedies posted on her website... 
________________ 
 
And if you don't know what you're 
>doing when you conveniently sell your concoctions to us poor, not-normal, 
>fatalistically resigned women, someone potentially could become 
>fatalistically sick.  And BTW, menstruation isn't something from which one 
>can "heal." 
 
 
Which is why I never said anything about "healing" from menstruation. You 
might want to read more carefully. I was referring to PMS/PMDD, extreme 
symptoms which are by no means "normal," any more than an enlarged prostate 
is normal. 
 
If you or anyone else wants to keep suffering and complaining, then by all 
means, keep on suffering and complaining! God forbid that I take that 
pleasure from you. ;-) Not everyone wants to suffer, however, so it is to 
them that I directed that message. 
________________ 
 
Oh POOH, David!  If you only knew.  If you only knew.  Please go back to my 
original statement. And again, you did NOT state the above info in your 
original post.  I personally believe the PMS IS normal.  It's simply 
considered "not so" in our society. 
_________________ 
 
And, once again, if your *ego* ... ;) prevents you from receiving such 
information from a person with testes, then you can search the Web to your 
heart's content and get the same information and products from an ovarian 
person instead.  That may make you feel better. 
__________________ 
 
And so from where are you operating now?  Informing me, telling me -- 
without knowing -- having a clue -- where I'm really coming from?  My ego 
would want something from you, David.  Demand something from you.  My ego, 
right now, is compelling me to reply to your stuff, where my Higher Self 
would probably be more at peace deleting your e-mail.  I've had my share of 
crackpot female doctors, chiropractors and homeopathic practitioners.  That 
doesn't have anything to do with anything. 
__________________ 
 
Altho' I think the best "healing" will occur for women when we 
>return to a female Goddess-based rather than a male God-based society -- 
>not 
>in my lifetime! 
 
 
Ah, so *that's* the panacea, huh? 
__________________ 
 
It's not a choice.  It's inevitable. 
__________________ 
 
> 
>So until that time, women will put up with men like you and Belldiddly 
>telling us to "tune our engines," use the proper fuel and "use" our bodies 
>wisely.  HA!! 
 
Yep. Good advice for everybody, and I try to live by it myself. If something 
prevents you from receiving help from a man, then I guess you are just not 
meant to be helped by me. That doesn't erase my obligation to share what I 
know with as many as will receive it. 
 
_________________ 
 
I want to cohabitate with my chiropractor, Salim.  Unfortunately, he's 
married.  To my kinesiologist.  My massage therapist, Louise, sings in the 
church choir.  My acupuncture "guy" is 'The' Dr. Zao.  (He's a man!)  And if 
Susan of this list lived closer, I'd ask to attend sessions with her.  I 
objected to your methods and your obvious (not) knowledge of us poor women 
sufferers.  Like I said, you probably meant well... 
 
Cheerio! 
 
Ta Ta! 
 
Hety 
 
 
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