1998/05/09 18:22
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #363
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 363
Today's Topics:
RE: Non-denominational kundalini? [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Is there no end?!! [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
RE: RE: kundalini rising (was RE: 3 [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: Is there no end?!! [ Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net> ]
Re: Is there no end?!! [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
Re: Non-denominational kundalini? [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: Is there no end?!! [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Jon Anstock <janstockATnospammetz.une.edu. ]
Re: Happiness [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: To Activate or not to activate [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
RE: Non-denominational kundalini? [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ cheryl jonah <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico ]
Re: Non-denominational kundalini? [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: K and stages [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
RE: Non-denominational kundalini? [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Pat Williams <pwilliamATnospaminfocom.com> ]
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:08:18 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Non-denominational kundalini?
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Depends. If K is causing problems, a guide might help. If She is going
along fine, but people are just puzzled -- then the wrong guide may be
worse than none.
I had a spontaneous awakening that was fine, except for the puzzle of "What
is going on, am I going crazy?"
As long as I just relaxed and let K lead, all was fine. When I got anxious
and tense, then things went bad. It was the fear of insanity that caused
the trouble.
I spent a year reading various books, /Cosmic Consciousness/, William James
/VArieties of Religious Experience/, etc, before finding Muktananda's /Play
of Consciousness/.
During that year ... K kind of led me to the right ideas. I noticed
patterns for myself, instead of letting other people interpret/shape my
experiences. Learned a lot from reading James' /Principles of Psychology/
-- at a time when my own mind was kind of wide open with K.
Got the most help from Leary's book about /Tibetan Book of the Dead/. Never
really inhaled drugs, but knew how they could affect me. So I decided "It's
not insanity, it's not religion, I'm just getting high on something." That
saved my sanity. :-))))
I know what people mean about "using K". Seems a waste *not* to put it into
art or something to share with the world. Or into some pre-existing
spiritual path. But -- that way I wouldn't have learned so much about how
the mind works, about different kinds of yoga etc....
I still think that if K is showing herself in a loving, reassuring way
(even just sometimes) -- then SHE can be the guide through all these
qustions. She can guide one to the right guides, or to the right books, or
the right scraps of info on tv ... or the right pictures to see in teh
clouds or the tealeaves, or whatever. She can tell you whether to "use" her
energy for lifestyle improvement, or accomplishment in the world, or for a
conventional "path to enlightenment", or for some new
path/understanding.... Or all of these at different times....
It's different for everybody. ONLY K KNOWS FOR SURE. :-))))))
BD
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 18:30:44 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Is there no end?!!
Message-Id: <3553965d52b5004ATnospammhub3.tc.umn.edu>
I'm the deep-thinking sort. I think I always have been. I'm 19 now.
Early in high school, I officially quit Christianity. I thought it made
perfect, logical sense, but I found huge inconsistencies and stuff that
just didn't make sense. (Just to clarify: The branch of Christianity was
Protestant and Fundamentalist (as the dictionary defines "fundamentalist").
I am aware that there are many different interpretations of the Bible,
some less literal than others.)
My leaving Christianity made the nature of consciousness, the supernatural,
the spiritual, and the Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe, and
Everything a part of the things that I thought about. I read books, I
observed myself (not just my body, but what it was like to be alive), I
observed other people, I lived and I took notes. I'm a smart guy - I
gained insights and drew conclusions.
I was/am of the opinion that it's possible to go through any experience and
not suffer - that suffering was something different than an experience...
that "things" didn't "cause" suffering, but that there was some step
between experiencing something and suffering that could eventually be
"turned off" or used to experience life totally without suffering.
I did my thing some more, read more books, thought some more, and talked to
deep people more... Sometimes I'd read a book that explained the path to
enlightenment and it made sense. Sometimes I'd just think up something or
discover something talking to people. When those things happened, I'd get
in a good mood. My body felt good, I was cheerful and relaxed and
confident... I was even able to get into an argument with my girlfriend
and smile the whole time. It wasn't repression or pain-avoidance, but
transcendence. I saw that "things" didn't matter. "I" was indestructible.
"I" was eternal.
But every single time that happens, I end up back where I started! I end
up responding the same way to things. I keep on being affected by things
that don't matter, as though there is no escape from the perpetual
suffering that is life. I get thrown out of heaven once again! You people
are supposed to know! Do you?!! I just cried bitterly. Dear God, why?!!
Is there no end?!!
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:39:55 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Harsha1MTM" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
Subject: RE: RE: kundalini rising (was RE: 3 times K. from 1 to 7)
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Kurt wrote:
<snip>
>Thus you can posit as many Beings as you want and it doesn't
> matter -because according to this view they are in a parallel universe.
> Nothing cannot influence without being influenced. If Being influences,
> then it must be influenced in the process. Everything is
>interdependent.
Jan:
The idea of parallel universes is more or less accepted in order to fix the
paradox with time-travel through wormholes. According to the neti-neti
doctrine, Being cannot be defined and yet it isn´t equal to nothing. So
Being cannot influence nor can it be influenced. However, it can be
experienced, contrary to spanda, which is a technical concept. The
experience of OM at certain occasions cannot be denied, but the very fact
that these occasions are rare and the sound is heard for only a short time,
poses some difficulties for an explanation as "hearing the sound of the
Absolute". If one manages to remain conscious during the process of falling
asleep, one will observe a tremendous burst of energy, turning off, among
others, all motor-systems and sometimes producing a sound, similar to OM,
but at an other pitch and not as loud. As on the rare occasions, where OM is
experienced, something is irreversibly changed physically also (but with
much more energy involved then when falling asleep), the change alone could
be causing the sound (eventually as a secondary effect).
Kurt:
<snip>
>Others
> argue that there must be a cognitive change, but experience itself brings
> the cognitive change - just as tasting honey conveys all that there is to
> know about honey, tasting supreme bliss tells you all that you
> need to know
> about the union of bliss and emptiness (Buddhist terminology) or
> sat-chit-ananda (Hindu).
Jan:
The cognitive changes are part of the process of K., if the speed of
progress allows one to experience them. The two major changes are those
where the sound OM is heard (very strong). The example of tasting honey is a
good one, because the experience of the taste tells nothing about its
(doubtful) value as food. Likewise, the experience of the "ultimate state"
doesn´t reveal other qualities because the limitations of the human
observing system. This reminds me of the fate of the universe: it seems very
sure that it will expand forever, so there are no "cycles of Brahma" (the
universe, expanding first, than contracting to a "big bang" and starting all
over again). This means, that Karma will grind to a halt one day as will all
vibrations. Only Being remains...
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:47:51 EDT
From: Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>
To: blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Is there no end?!!
Message-ID: <7c557c41.3553c3d8ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Brent:
Detachment from other people's emotions is something that has to be
cultivated from day to day. There will always be people who will affect you
emotionally to some extent. As your chi or kundalini rises you may at first
feel more sensitive to people. Humanity in general is good at dumping
emotional garbage, but it is not good in using alchemy to recycle it. In your
case your chi may have temporarily been raised to a high level where you were
able to detach from negative emotion. And then it went back to its
"maintenance level". Eventually with proper cultivation your day to day
"maintenance level" will rise. When one becomes a strong vessel for attracting
earth and heaven energies, this detachment will become stronger, because your
energy is not dependent upon people and life circumstance. The universe
provides the pure energy for body and soul.
Yours truly,
Dave
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 02:42:11 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Jan.esmannATnospamget2net.dk
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Hi
Where are you located?
I just discovered a guru in Miami. HIs name is Swami Jyotir Mayananda,
he has a small ashram where he lectures on the scriptures almost every
night and has many books that they are manufactured in his place.
He is a holy man. He gives initiations to his devotees.
He has a web site I think, its called Yoga Research Foundation.
Love and light,
Lissette
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 02:45:12 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Jan.esmannATnospamget2net.dk
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Dear Jan
I read your post inquiring about a guru. I sent you the information
about the Swamiji that lives in Miami, but I will tell you this. I have
been to the ashram of Gurumayi, she is a true guru, I was awakened by
Muktananda before that, but a guru is one who causes you to discover
your own divinity. It does not matter who..
That is all.
Love and light
Lissette
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 02:43:14 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Hofe1" <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is there no end?!!
Message-Id: <355409c941c9002ATnospammhub3.tc.umn.edu>
> From: Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>
> To: Brent L Blalock <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
> Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Re: Is there no end?!!
> Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 9:47 PM
>
> Dear Brent:
>
> Detachment from other people's emotions is something that has to be
> cultivated from day to day. There will always be people who will affect
you
> emotionally to some extent. As your chi or kundalini rises you may at
first
> feel more sensitive to people. Humanity in general is good at dumping
> emotional garbage, but it is not good in using alchemy to recycle it. In
your
> case your chi may have temporarily been raised to a high level where you
were
> able to detach from negative emotion. And then it went back to its
> "maintenance level". Eventually with proper cultivation your day to day
> "maintenance level" will rise. When one becomes a strong vessel for
attracting
> earth and heaven energies, this detachment will become stronger, because
your
> energy is not dependent upon people and life circumstance. The universe
> provides the pure energy for body and soul.
Thank you for your reply. I have some questions for you.
1) It might be helpful to hear about the experiences of those who have
gone before me. What have you experienced concerning the effect chi has on
detachment?
2) What practices do you recommend for cultivating my chi?
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 11:21:23 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Non-denominational kundalini?
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Hi Joe! :)
>As to the "austerities and meditate for years" stuff please note a very,
>very big difference that has, in my observation, been repeatedly and
>totally ignored by the list as a whole: Those people followed those
>practices, not just to awaken Kundalini, but to guide it and to control
>it and its side effects as it progressed.
Very, very good point there. :) I don't think that K-awakening was ever
considered to be the goal - actually, I think of Milarepa, I think he was
K-awakened (in the sense accepted on this list) when he _began_ meditating
in his cave. Yes, there is a significant increase of K awakenings, it all
comes more easily etc, but I would really love someone to show me somebody
who could match Milarepa's depth of wisdom and enlightenment, among all
those people talking about taking new steps in human evolution. IMHO
Milarepa, or Shankaracarya, Narada, Vyasa, and many like them, took all the
steps in human evolution there are. The question is, are we able even to
follow their footsteps?
>Modern day example: I have a friend who had no awakening, he was told
>(by two separate Astrologers) the information in his Jyotish chart his
>chance for an awakening were poor to awful. He still insisted on
>learning a practice from his teacher, practiced it as faithfully as I've
>seen anyone, and had, not just a safe awakening but, a safe and full
>development of Kundalini. In his case K has now progress through Ajna
>Charka and is doing its work on the brain centers. It has only been two
>years since his awakening. Makes old timers like me wonder what's taken
>us so long to get where we are.
I think this is exactly my point. :)
Take care! :)
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 07:26:06 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Is there no end?!!
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In a message dated 5/8/98, 7:34:13 PM, blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu writes:
<<But every single time that happens, I end up back where I started! I end
up responding the same way to things. I keep on being affected by things
that don't matter, as though there is no escape from the perpetual
suffering that is life. I get thrown out of heaven once again! You people
are supposed to know! Do you?!! I just cried bitterly. Dear God, why?!!
Is there no end?!!
>>
Brent...
Bless your heart.... I'm with ya darlin.... I know exactly what you are
talking about - used to ask myself the same questions. (keep asking - you'll
get it! altho the why questions will just bring you nowhere - ask better
questions).
Heaven is a choice you must make. A decision. Do I want to be in heaven or
hell? Every moment you get to choose again.
xxxtg
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:52:39 -1000 (HST)
From: Jon Anstock <janstockATnospammetz.une.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Has anyone experienced or read about black dots under the toe nails as part of Kundalini? Is there any significance to such an expeience? Looking forward to any communication. Regards, Jon Anstock.
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 10:43:48 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Happiness
Message-ID: <35546BA5.C3F85164ATnospamerols.com>
Hi, Mary!
That's the best thing I have heard about happiness yet. It implies that
happiness is our natural state, and I believe this to be true.
As for the original question, this is the thought that keeps coming back to
me: If I am happy because I love *---* (fill in your favorite name for the
deity), this is a bad thing??!
Blessings,
Orea
Mary Ezzell wrote:
>
> Feeling a lot of happiness for "no reason" lately, remembering what a guru
> said ...
>
> Something about, "Happiness and unhappiness are not really opposites. For
> example, lack of money can make you unhappy, but having money doesn't
> necessarily make you happy.
>
> "Happiness is what you feel when the breath and other body rhythms (cranial
> sacral etc) are relaxed and normal. It is how the muscles in the chest feel
> when they are breathing/moving normally, and sending out the right ripples
> over the body.
>
> "This can be messed up by worries. Tension stiffens the muscles, they can't
> make their normal movements. So anything that causes worry, such as lack of
> money, can cause unhappiness (unless you are able to detach from it, ie let
> the breath-muscles etc go on moving normally even without money :-).
>
> "If getting some money relieves the tension, then the muscles can move
> normally for a while and produce happiness. Anything that relieves the
> tension can do this. Going into a garden, or hearing beautiful music or
> meeting a loving child -- at these times we forget worries, the tension
> drops, and happiness can happen. The frozen wheels thaw and begin to turn
> -- the brake is taken off."
>
> BD
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> At 12:56 PM 5/7/98 +0530, Sandeep Chatterjee wrote:
> >Hi everybody
> >
> >If you have reasons to be happy then you really are not happy!
> >
> >Any views?
> >
> >
> >Sandeep
> >
> >
> >
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:55:42
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: To Activate or not to activate
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Hi, Holly,
A bit late in catching up with k-mail, so forgive the tardy reply--
At 04:22 PM 5/5/98 -0500, Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote:
>I lost weight with kundalini (sounds like the title of a bestseller to
>me) because of how she has directed me to eat and because I need to
>exercise more to ground the energy. She also gave me a sweet tooth I
>never had before and a passion for chocolate. It is very simple to
>taste God in chocolate, I've found. Or to paraphrase Salinger, me
>eating chocolate is like God tasting God in God. I have a huge double
>fudge chocolate chip cookie nightly and have not gained. Before k this
>would have meant 10 pounds in a week. Go figure. Love, Holly
Exactly what is happening with me. Excess poundage is just disappearing.
I'm eating a highly "unspiritual" diet my new age standards--it includes
lots of proteins, including animal protein, but also lots and lots of
veggies, and ample amounts of fruit. Hardly any grain, pasta, etc. I've
never felt better. In fact, a lot of the time I feel almost "high" since
giving up on being a vegetarian. I was definitely led to eat this way, and
I consider it a gift from the Divine.
And yes, I sometimes dip my strawberries in chocolate... :)
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:09:02 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Non-denominational kundalini?
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BD wrote:
>I still think that if K is showing herself in a loving, reassuring way
>(even just sometimes) -- then SHE can be the guide through all these
>qustions. She can guide one to the right guides, or to the right books, or
>the right scraps of info on tv ... or the right pictures to see in teh
>clouds or the tealeaves, or whatever. She can tell you whether to "use" her
>energy for lifestyle improvement, or accomplishment in the world, or for a
>conventional "path to enlightenment", or for some new
>path/understanding.... Or all of these at different times....
How true!!! I can feel her when she's happy (if that makes sense). When
we're at one I walk around feeling like my head is on fire. A huge
Heatmeister flame rising about two feet above my physical head roars
without consuming. That's when I am truly Signalfire -- the fire that
communicates.
--Signalfire
This mellow thighed
snake just put
my spine out of place ...
---- slanted David Bowie
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 05:16:55 -1000 (HST)
From: cheryl jonah <awp.win-winATnospamsympatico.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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HI I've managed to have man and machine. I wish to re-join the K-list. I have tried not to miss what I couldn't have- but now!
Jonah
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:52:55 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Non-denominational kundalini?
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In a message dated 5/9/1998 2:26:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes:
<< don't think that K-awakening was ever
considered to be the goal - actually, I think of Milarepa, I think he was
K-awakened (in the sense accepted on this list) when he _began_ meditating
in his cave. Yes, there is a significant increase of K awakenings, it all
comes more easily etc, but I would really love someone to show me somebody
who could match Milarepa's depth of wisdom and enlightenment, >>
Harsha: Quite right. The Shakti awakening is a beginning. Purity of mind is
essential for the Kundalini to rise up fully and function at higher centers.
The spiritual benefits of a Kundalini awakening are not always obvious
immediately, particularly if the awakening is abnormal or premature.
Pranayama is considered an important practice in many Shakti traditions for
awakening, purifying and raising the Shakti to higher levels. Milarepa, by
the way, was a Pranayama adept. For cautions regarding the practice of
pranayama and meditation in the context of sensuality see my paper on
Kundalini at the following address:
Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:43:45 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: Briony123ATnospamaol.com, Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: K and stages
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In a message dated 98-04-23 15:55:40 EDT, Briony123ATnospamaol.com writes:
<< In my experience, Kundalini awakening occurs in stages, >>
Hi everybody. Trying to catch up--still jetlagging, but was struck by
Trystan's remark. Have other's felt this--What Stages do we go through? I
sense this is true, but memory is so tricky I'm not sure if I'm in the same
place I began or not!
Love, Hillary
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:53:49 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Non-denominational kundalini?
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>How true!!! I can feel her when she's happy (if that makes sense). When
>we're at one I walk around feeling like my head is on fire. A huge
>Heatmeister flame rising about two feet above my physical head roars
>without consuming. That's when I am truly Signalfire -- the fire that
>communicates.
>
>--Signalfire
Works for me!
JMHO,
amckeon
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 20:21:52 -0500 (EST)
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>Question 2
>What does OM-MANI-PADME-HUM - Chenreezis mantra, mean ? Can someone
translate it into English ?
OM - is the state of godhood to which all men aspire
MA - symbolizes those who are more than men, yet less than gods
NI - symbolizes those who have become Adepts (high upon the path of
attainment)
PAD - refers to those who are Disciples
ME - symbolizes still another aspect of Man. Not Man as a merely some
insignificant being, but MAN who Aspires
HUM - is associated with the life energies used by Man in his ascent from
the state of Aspiring Man through Discipleship, Adeptship and
Mastership to Godhood.
Thus individual growth from the very lowest to the highest.
Pat
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