Kundalini Gateway Email List Archives

line

To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/02/25 18:53
Subject: Re: [K-list] Lotus Sutra - a posting of mine on a buddhist disc
From: Christopher Wynter


On 2000/02/25 18:53, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:

From: Christopher Wynter <wynterATnospamone.net.au>

Hello ...

and thank you for confirming what I know ..
not from what I have read, but from what has come up from the remembering
of my body.

Do I have your permission to use what you have written within my own
discussions on these subjects?

At 10:10 PM 25/02/00 , you wrote:

>It was NOT sanskrit, but the *MOTHER OF SANSCRIT*, which was the
>missionary language during the expansion of Buddhism into China.

There are other non-written languages before this of which I have recovered
memory ...
and all writing is at best a translation into "rigid form" of what was once
fluid.

This degeneration increases proportionally to our distance from the
original unwritten ....

Even the spoken has intonations of voice and inflection which cause it to
differ from one orator to the next ....

I see no way through this at the moment ..
but what I am working on is purifying my own "vessel" so that the "keys"
can be transmitted through "non thought" ...
because I feel it is the thinking process that distorts the "emanation"
through the perceptual filters of judgement

>The early translation by Dharmaraksa contains several translation-errors.
>These errors was due to misunderstandings, confusions, between the lost
>language *kharoshti* in the lost kingdom of Gandhara on the one hand, and
>sanskrit on the other hand. A word could be pronounced different in the
>now lost *mother of sanscrit* and the later language known as *sanscrit*,
>and Dharmaraksa and his team did not interpret words correctly due to
>these differences. Due to his errors of translation, Dharmaraksa's
>rendering has been considered less authorative than the translation of
>Kumarajiva. What most people forget, is that Dharmaraksa - despite his
>translation errors - had access to an OLDER AND MORE AUTHENTIC MANUSCRIPT
>than Kumarajiva. By analyzing his Chinese translation, it's obvious that
>he confused words in the Central-Asian original with sanscrit-words; hence
>the *error translations*.

The errors can be seen when it is recognised that earliest spoken
communication did not contain any consonants .. it was purely derived from
what we know as "vowels" and expressions of these "vowels" .. The soft
consonants were added .. and the "plosive consonants" came into being as an
emotive expression added to the original .. which changed its meaning.

>At the moment, I've done extensive research in Dharmaraksa's
>underestimated translation of the Lotus Sutra, in order to define the
>original language of the manuscript he held in his hands, according to the
>two kholophons of his translation (TAISHOO 2145, vol 55, 56c 16-24, and
>CHU SANZANG JI JI, vol. 55, 56c.25-57a.2.). His *errors in translation*
>was NOT due to *carelessness*, but due to the fact that he had access to a
>lost manuscript, OLDER than the manuscripts in Kashmir and Nepal, with a
>LOST indo-aric language - older than sancrit - which Dharmaraksa and his
>team had problems to understand fully.
>
>The Lotus is a holy (whole) symbol in buddhism.

You may find that it predates buddhism by many thousands of years

>It expands, white and clean, from even the darkest mud. It's roots
>symbolizes our physical body and world; the stalk represents the astral
>(emotional and mental) realms; the surface of water is the border between
>the relative and the absolute; and the white, clean, lotus flower
>represents our divine essence, stretching towards the Light of the Sun
>(the Divine).

Symbolic of the living bridge between the "firmament below" and "the
firmament above" in all its glory

>The Diamond is a symbol of DHARMAKAYA, the immortal body which survives
>the transition called *death*. And the diamond, "vajra" in Tibetan
>Buddhism, is one of the most SECRET KEYS to Tibetan buddhism. A diamond
>consists of carbon, and when transforming our breathing process (breathing
>= "ZU ATMEN" in the German language) through meditative exercises, we
>manifest ATMAN in our everyday life.

Carbon is also one of the primary elements of life on earth the primary
"elemental" of the "firmament below"

>In one of the esoteric traditions in the west, the
>*crucifiction-ressurrection* initiation corresponds to Kundalinis rising as
>a water-level to the head. *Golgata*, the place where Jesus was crucified,
>literarily means *the place of the sculls*. When Kundalini moves upwards
>to the middle of the head, making a *waterline*, a HORISONTAL connection
>between the two Chakras in the head, these process is prepared.

The origin of the cross bar is the symbol of the separation between the
heavens or firmaments above and below ... the symbol of the cross was
distorted to show the two joined (vertical line) and barred (horizontal
line) from ever coming together again. This is a peculiarly Christian
distortion

The cross bar, in the human body, lies across the centre of the heart.

The Egyptian Ankh is symbolic of the lotus ... and the bar in the ankh was
placed there by the priesthood ... by worshiping the Ankh with the bar in
place, the priesthood retained control of the people through the
separation. The Christian cross derived from the Ankh, not the "Tau cross"
as some think.

The Tau cross is a "primitive" variation on the Ankh.

The Cross within the circle (cross of equal arms) has a different
derivation and totally different meaning

>Our Holy
>Guardian Angel drops the Pearl of Compassion DOWNWARDS, hitting this
>horisontal bar, and these two directions forms the CROSS. When the Divine
>Energy returns upwards, ascension is experienced.

This is only experienced in the realms of the mind ....
True ascension comes when the bar is removed ...
just as the lotus derives its life both from the mud and the sun
ascension is the rising from the mud,
 but with roots deeply embedded ... as a tree .. a living bridge ...

The replacement of the tree or the lotus by the vertical bar
 was the origin of the separation between "Eastern and Western"
mystecism

>The Kashmirian legend tells, and it's confirmed within secret societies,
>that northwards Kashmir, Nepal and Afganisthan, there existed a LOST
>language with 72 characters, which once was spoken all over the world.
>It's a DIVINE language, long forgotten by our materialistic *tic-tac
>culture*, because it's not an ARTIFICIAL language, but a language
>of Life itself. These language is international even today, because it
>corresponds to our subconscious ROOTS - the roots of the Lotus. And these
>language is the SECRET language among certain lamas today - people
>who preserved these language of origination in it's pure form in it's
>secret texts, unavailable of the communist Chinese.

The essence is contained and closely approximated within "the Tao"

>The Lotus Sutra is one of the divine remnants and inheritance, belonging
>to all humanity.

Its an interpretation an an expression of something which goes back to the
energy we call "Lemuria"
with the distortions coming from the "Atlantean consciousness"

>And when I've finished my analyze of Dharmaraksa's
>translation, I'm going to publish it to those interested - but not as a
>commercial effort.

Could you please keep me up to date on your progress as I feel our work
overlaps ...
you are getting it from the written records, I'm getting it from the DNA
records contained in the body ..
and they agree ....

>SAD = Perfect; DHARMA = The Law of Buddha; PUNDARIKA = White Lotus; hence
>Saddharmapundarika Sutra = The perfect Law of the White Lotus.
>
>(not speaking on behalf on any organisation)

No organisation would dare!

>

Could you send these to me please privately

Christopher Wynter


------------------------------------------------------------------------
/967/2/_/680797/_/951529731/
------------------------------------------------------------------------

blank
DISCLAIMER!

Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
blank
K.  List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and  Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
line
  • Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given). Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses.
  • All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the at symbol symbol.
  • All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©
  • This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
  • URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k2000/k20a01071.html